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JermaineDye05
05-11-2010, 02:07 PM
Per Cowley twitter

link (http://twitter.com/cst_sox/statuses/13803753637)

Probably a case of too little too late.

LoveYourSuit
05-11-2010, 02:09 PM
I guess Williams was not going to be trusted to face Mauer, Morneu, Thome, Kubel for this series.

DirtySox
05-11-2010, 02:09 PM
Probably a case of Randy Williams getting the boot if he keeps screwing up.

JermaineDye05
05-11-2010, 02:10 PM
Probably a case of Randy Williams getting the boot if he keeps screwing up.

He should have gotten the boot last April.

DirtySox
05-11-2010, 02:10 PM
I guess Williams was not going to be trusted to face Mauer, Morneu, Thome, Kubel for this series.

Embree is going to Charlotte.

dickallen15
05-11-2010, 02:11 PM
He's going to the minors. He's the 2010 to the 2007 acquisition of Jeff Nelson. A waste of money. Not a lot of money, but a waste.

Carolina Kenny
05-11-2010, 02:12 PM
He sucked for us in 2001 (5.03 ERA).
But, Coop will fix him.

CPditka
05-11-2010, 02:17 PM
Probably too little too late, but I have to wonder if Embree catches on it could move Thorton to the Closer role. Just thinking out loud.

CPditka
05-11-2010, 02:18 PM
Probably too little too late, but I have to wonder if Embree catches on it could move Thorton to the Closer role. Just thinking out loud.


By the way...I would not want this.

JermaineDye05
05-11-2010, 02:21 PM
Probably too little too late, but I have to wonder if Embree catches on it could move Thorton to the Closer role. Just thinking out loud.

If he's going to replace anyone, it would be Williams. I doubt Thornton gets moved to closer. If anyone gets moved there, it's probably Putz or Santos.

Carolina Kenny
05-11-2010, 02:22 PM
Probably too little too late, but I have to wonder if Embree catches on it could move Thorton to the Closer role. Just thinking out loud.

Embree Yo, has a lifetime ERA of 4.59 and has been in the bigs for an amazing 16 seasons. Too bad Brian Anderson does not throw from the left side.

pythons007
05-11-2010, 02:28 PM
He has a mid to high 90s straight as an arrow fastball...followed by his 4 seamer straight as an arrow mid to high 90s fastball...home run derby from what I remember back in the day.

Carolina Kenny
05-11-2010, 02:32 PM
He has a mid to high 90s straight as an arrow fastball...followed by his 4 seamer straight as an arrow mid to high 90s fastball...home run derby from what I remember back in the day.

At 40 yrs. old, I doubt if he can reach the upper 90's with that fastball now. But give the dude his props, 16 years in the majors is quite a feat.

CPditka
05-11-2010, 02:48 PM
Agreed. I assume he is Randy's replacment.

Weirder things have happened though for a player to catch lightning in bottle though...

Rockabilly
05-11-2010, 02:57 PM
He's a bum.

Walker29
05-11-2010, 03:11 PM
Hey, what's Paul Assenmacher doing these days? Lets dust him off. :tongue:

doublem23
05-11-2010, 03:12 PM
I think I'd still rather have Williams.

What-ever.

TDog
05-11-2010, 03:13 PM
He's a bum.

He isn't that, but he is 40 and recently released by the Red Sox (which makes him especially cheap). He pitched less than 8 innings in 8 games in Pawtucket, and I don't think he pitched at all for Boston, so he is probably needs some minor league innings. He was closing a lot of games for the A's three seasons ago after Street went down, and he picked up half of the team's saves. I was surprised with his effectiveness, but that was three years ago.

You can't judge Embree by his first stint with the White Sox. He had his best major league season after he left and signed with the Padres. But I don't see how there possibly could be anything left in him.

white sox bill
05-11-2010, 03:56 PM
Desperate teams make desperate moves

WhiteSox5187
05-11-2010, 03:59 PM
I could be mistaken, but doesn't Embree wear stirrups? If so, this is a good move.

Huisj
05-11-2010, 04:03 PM
At 40 yrs. old, I doubt if he can reach the upper 90's with that fastball now. But give the dude his props, 16 years in the majors is quite a feat.

Looks like he was still throwing in the low-mid 90s the last few years with things topping out around 95.

http://www.fangraphs.com/pitchfxo.aspx?playerid=1030&position=P&pitch=FA

thomas35forever
05-11-2010, 04:43 PM
Well if we signed Daniel Cabrera, then I guess...

Oh wait, that didn't work out.

slavko
05-11-2010, 04:52 PM
Left handed, check. Has a pulse, check. What else do you need to know?

Tragg
05-11-2010, 06:57 PM
Embree - good gracious.
But perfectly in character with this organization.

MeteorsSox4367
05-11-2010, 07:18 PM
The Sox brought back Embree, can they find Bryan Ward with his cool sideburns?

asindc
05-11-2010, 07:30 PM
Embree - good gracious.
But perfectly in character with this organization.

Yeah, probably should have signed Chan Ho Park or Scott Schoeneweis instead.

tstrike2000
05-11-2010, 07:49 PM
Yeah, probably should have signed Chan Ho Park or Scott Schoeneweis instead.

Can Kelly Wunsch still throw?

JB98
05-11-2010, 07:58 PM
Jerry Don Gleaton wasn't available?

Brian26
05-11-2010, 08:25 PM
Reminds me of the Mike Myers move from two years ago.

soxfanreggie
05-11-2010, 09:11 PM
Hey, what's Paul Assenmacher doing these days? Lets dust him off. :tongue:

High school baseball coach in Atlanta. Why do I know this? I was reading about most pitching appearances in the 90s and found he holds the lead with another former Sox pitcher Mike Jackson.

Why not take a look at getting Cotts from the Pirates if we're going for former Sox pitchers.

HomeFish
05-11-2010, 09:13 PM
Huh? Am I back in High School?

asindc
05-11-2010, 09:13 PM
High school baseball coach in Atlanta. Why do I know this? I was reading about most pitching appearances in the 90s and found he holds the lead with another former Sox pitcher Mike Jackson.

Why not take a look at getting Cotts from the Pirates if we're going for former Sox pitchers.

Nah, the NYY would probably sign him before us.

soxinem1
05-11-2010, 09:45 PM
He sucked last time he was here, as he looked more like Mr. Gopherball.

I'm sure he'll be even ****tier with 5-6 MPH off his very straight fastball.

guillen4life13
05-11-2010, 10:02 PM
Yeah, probably should have signed Chan Ho Park or Scott Schoeneweis instead.

Last I heard, Chan Ho Park has diarrhea. Might want to pass on that one.

asindc
05-11-2010, 10:07 PM
Last I heard, Chan Ho Park has diarrhea. Might want to pass on that one.

I should really use teal more, since what is obviously snarky to me is not necessarily so for everyone else. Park was a FA signing by NYY (still on the roster) and Schoeneweis was a FA signing by Boston (still on the roster). Perfectly in character with those organizations.

soxinem1
05-11-2010, 10:10 PM
High school baseball coach in Atlanta. Why do I know this? I was reading about most pitching appearances in the 90s and found he holds the lead with another former Sox pitcher Mike Jackson.

Why not take a look at getting Cotts from the Pirates if we're going for former Sox pitchers.

We already have Cotts. His name is Randy Williams.

guillen4life13
05-11-2010, 10:10 PM
I should really use teal more, since what is obviously snarky to me is not necessarily so for everyone else. Park was a FA signing by NYY (still on the roster) and Schoeneweis was a FA signing by Boston (still on the roster). Perfectly in character with those organizations.

I was joking too. I knew you were joking. Maybe your quote represents where I stand as well.

asindc
05-11-2010, 10:18 PM
I was joking too. I knew you were joking. Maybe your quote represents where I stand as well.

:thumbsup:

The Dude
05-12-2010, 12:37 AM
He sucked for us in 2001 (5.03 ERA).
But, Coop will fix him.

I will NEVER forget that year with him. He was the worst. Linebrink clone

HebrewHammer
05-12-2010, 07:08 AM
Jim Parque turned down a bullpen role?

Tragg
05-12-2010, 07:26 AM
I should really use teal more, since what is obviously snarky to me is not necessarily so for everyone else. Park was a FA signing by NYY (still on the roster) and Schoeneweis was a FA signing by Boston (still on the roster). Perfectly in character with those organizations.
Myers was also signed by the Yankees in 2007 and spent a couple of months on their roster. Let's be sure to take the worst player and practices of those organizations and continue to implement them. (but ignore their other practices like stressing plate discipline, defense, developing young players, getting on base....).
Myers inexplicably got 17 appearances during what should have been minor-league showcase time in August and September of 2007.
Well, not that inexplicably...he was 38 after all.

soxfanreggie
05-12-2010, 07:28 AM
We already have Cotts. His name is Randy Williams.

Although I'm a big Cotts fan, it was more of a - Why don't we just take a look at every lefty reliever we've had since the early 2000s, excluding Thornton.

tstrike2000
05-12-2010, 09:50 AM
He sucked last time he was here, as he looked more like Mr. Gopherball.

I'm sure he'll be even ****tier with 5-6 MPH off his very straight fastball.

You mean a lefthanded Sox version of Billy Koch isn't what we need?

Hartman
05-12-2010, 09:57 AM
There are NO better options out there than Alan ****ing Embree?

asindc
05-12-2010, 10:03 AM
Myers was also signed by the Yankees in 2007 and spent a couple of months on their roster. Let's be sure to take the worst player and practices of those organizations and continue to implement them. (but ignore their other practices like stressing plate discipline, defense, developing young players, getting on base....).
Myers inexplicably got 17 appearances during what should have been minor-league showcase time in August and September of 2007.
Well, not that inexplicably...he was 38 after all.

In case my previous posts did not make my point clear, I cite those examples to show that when it comes to middle relievers (and bench players, for that matter), even teams spending $203 million or $136 million on payroll have to take what is available. The Middle-Reliever aisle at the FA Mart contains Slightly Irregular, Refurbished, As-Is, and other merchandise that is not fit for the Starting-Pitcher or Closer aisles. In other words, KW is only shopping in the same market as everyone else, and even those who have more money to spend usually end up with less-than-ideal middle relievers.

As far as implementing practices of other organizations, you made you mention of that in the post I originally quoted, which is why my response had nothing to do with that.

ode to veeck
05-12-2010, 11:46 AM
Huh? Am I back in High School?

deja vu and who was the worst starter in the majors for the Sox as part of that blockbuster deal 10 years ago

Foulke You
05-12-2010, 03:26 PM
There are NO better options out there than Alan ****ing Embree?
Good left handed relief pitchers are like diamonds. They are hard to come by and worth a lot. Look at all the average to below average left handed relievers that stuck around in this league forever simply because they were left handed. Terry Mulholland, Jeff Fassero, Mike Myers, Dan Plesac, Ron Mahay, and so on. The Sox are no different than a lot of other teams giving a left handed guy like Embree a shot in the minors to see if he has anything left. Sometimes moves like this work out. It's low risk right now since he can't give up homers to our opponents pitching in Charlotte.

sox1970
05-28-2010, 02:29 PM
Embree has been released.

Hartman
05-28-2010, 09:25 PM
Embree has been released.
:geezer:

Back to the retirement home.

Shoeless
05-28-2010, 09:37 PM
Embree has been released.

Time to start the Official Alan Embree Appreciation Thread

PhillipsBubba
05-28-2010, 10:37 PM
He sucked for us in 2001 (5.03 ERA).
But, Coop will fix him.

I'd prefer that Cooper fix his under-achieving pitching staff, but that's just me...:scratch: