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Frater Perdurabo
04-30-2010, 10:06 PM
Disgust...

Tragg
04-30-2010, 10:07 PM
top of the first was good.

Frater Perdurabo
04-30-2010, 10:08 PM
Umm, go Paulie?

doublem23
04-30-2010, 10:08 PM
At least they made a game of it.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
04-30-2010, 10:08 PM
Title says it all.

Frater Perdurabo
04-30-2010, 10:08 PM
What happened to Pierre getting benched? Maybe that just meant he had to ride in a middle seat on the charter?

soxinem1
04-30-2010, 10:09 PM
The bottom four hitters had one hit.

Sort of wondering why Thornton is brought in the seventh inning again. Is there any reason why Santos, Putz, and Linebrink can't be used?

JB98
04-30-2010, 10:09 PM
From the third inning on, the Sox managed only two singles. Zzzzzzzz.

Oh, well. The Yankees are just a better team. I hope we can win one in this series. I figure Danks tomorrow is our best chance.

SephClone89
04-30-2010, 10:10 PM
What happened to Pierre getting benched? Maybe that just meant he had to ride in a middle seat on the charter?

:rolleyes:

Not enough healthy bodies in our outfield. You notice Jayson Nix out there?

Would you have preferred Kotsay Rios Nix?

Frater Perdurabo
04-30-2010, 10:10 PM
This team just isn't that good, and one of their best hitters was out due to back spasms. That's all there is to it.

Lip Man 1
04-30-2010, 10:10 PM
We've seen this a lot before too haven't we? Score early than disappear for the rest of the night.

Lip

doublem23
04-30-2010, 10:10 PM
That wraps up our worst April since 2001.

Nowhere to go but up, right?

Baron
04-30-2010, 10:10 PM
Hopefully Jones is back soon

doublem23
04-30-2010, 10:11 PM
Would you have preferred Kotsay Rios Nix?

Maybe.

WhiteSoxFTW
04-30-2010, 10:11 PM
I'm really not that upset about this loss. We got on Pettitte early, but he made some adjustments and kept us in check. Freddy gave us a chance to win it, but the Yankees bullpen is pretty good.

Frater Perdurabo
04-30-2010, 10:11 PM
:rolleyes:

Not enough healthy bodies in our outfield. You notice Jayson Nix out there?

Would you have preferred Kotsay Rios Nix?

Kotsay in right and Nix in left? Sure.

SephClone89
04-30-2010, 10:12 PM
Kotsay in right and Nix in left? Sure.

Ha, okay...

Frater Perdurabo
04-30-2010, 10:12 PM
That wraps up our worst April since 2001.

Nowhere to go but up, right?

Yeah, another 2001 is just what we need. :(:

doublem23
04-30-2010, 10:12 PM
I'm really not that upset about this loss. We got on Pettitte early, but he made some adjustments and kept us in check. Freddy gave us a chance to win it, but the Yankees bullpen is pretty good.

It's actually not, the bullpen is one of their few weaknesses early into the season.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/split/128/league/al

Not terrible, but, at best league average.

PhillipsBubba
04-30-2010, 10:12 PM
Bad teams usually find a way to lose.

The Sox are definitely a bad team. The question is, when does Kenny start making some moves?

soxinem1
04-30-2010, 10:13 PM
Would you have preferred Kotsay Rios Nix?

Right now, YES!

doublem23
04-30-2010, 10:14 PM
Yeah, another 2001 is just what we need. :(:

That team at least had a winning record.

JB98
04-30-2010, 10:15 PM
Yeah, another 2001 is just what we need. :(:

Hey, the 2001 club finished .500. :shrug:

soxinem1
04-30-2010, 10:15 PM
It's actually not, the bullpen is one of their few weaknesses.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/pitching/split/128/league/al

You are correct, Doub, it is weak against MLB hitting.

TDog
04-30-2010, 10:18 PM
It's disappointing because it was a game the Sox had a good shot at winning, probably should have won. Garcia recovered from a bad start, but he couldn't hold the lead. The Sox got the three in the first and brought around a leadoff double in the second, but couldn't score later after getting Beckham to second with none out. Later, Quentin hit the ball well after the Sox put two on with two out, but the ball was caught.

After six, it was a game of bullpens. This is the second time Thornton has looked bad in losing the lead with a game tied, in addition to blowing a lead earlier in the season. It would hate to think that he needs at least one day off between effective innings.

Going into the seventh, I thought the Sox would have the advantage in a three-inning bullpen game.

slavko
04-30-2010, 10:18 PM
The bottom four hitters had one hit.

Sort of wondering why Thornton is brought in the seventh inning again. Is there any reason why Santos, Putz, and Linebrink can't be used?

Just for the love of the game, it was beautiful the way Gardner and Jeter battled that straight fastball, got him to crack, won the battle that decided the game. That's hitting, that's baseball. I don't like him under pressure, don't think he can close. He gets puffed up just a bit around these parts.

Santos impressed me, has a real future here.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
04-30-2010, 10:20 PM
You are correct, Doub, it is weak against MLB hitting.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm117/mtgrnwdstar913/i_see_what_you_did_there_resize.jpg

Frater Perdurabo
04-30-2010, 10:20 PM
I'm ready to put Pierre on the DL with a case of rectal-cranial inversion, and call up Jordan Danks. At least Danks is a better fielder. He's also getting on base at a .360 clip, which is almost double what Pierre is doing. I don't expect Danks to OBP at .360 with the Sox, but a .260 OBP would be a major improvement, especially if we're talking about the nine hole. Plus, at least he can hit the ball out of the infield once in a while.

Tragg
04-30-2010, 10:21 PM
We have one injury, and that sends Nix into the starting outfield.
That's some depth for the #5 payroll in the league.:(:

TomParrish79
04-30-2010, 10:21 PM
Ha, okay...

Yeah if they had played those guys in those positions we might have lost tonight

SI1020
04-30-2010, 10:21 PM
Yeah, another 2001 is just what we need. :(: The 2001 team ended up winning 83 games. I doubt this one will.

SOXSINCE'70
04-30-2010, 10:24 PM
Yeah, another 2001 is just what we need. :(:

You mean the evryone should have a torn labrum??:D:

The White Sox lost many players to this malady in 2001.
Hey Hal, is this how you came up with your username?

Frater Perdurabo
04-30-2010, 10:24 PM
The 2001 team ended up winning 83 games. I doubt this one will.

Yeah, the 2010 Sox can't play the 2001 Royals or Tigers.

konerko 14
04-30-2010, 10:26 PM
I miss Pods :(:

SephClone89
04-30-2010, 10:26 PM
We have one injury, and that sends Nix into the starting outfield.
That's some depth for the #5 payroll in the league.:(:

Two injuries.

Tragg
04-30-2010, 10:32 PM
Two injuries.
Who else besides Jones?
Even 2 injuries bringing on Nix means the depth isn't worth a ****

SephClone89
04-30-2010, 10:34 PM
Who else besides Jones?
Even 2 injuries bringing on Nix means the depth isn't worth a ****

Quentin was playing injured.

doublem23
04-30-2010, 10:35 PM
Who else besides Jones?
Even 2 injuries bringing on Nix means the depth isn't worth a ****

Quentin's not 100%, but really you'd still have 2 of Pierre, Kotsay, Nix, or Vizquel in the lineup tonight.

cv sox fan
04-30-2010, 10:36 PM
these guy's are pathetic! We strikeout,hit into doubleplays never score with RISP. Quentin,Pierre are losy out fielders. Leftside of are infield look overwhelmed. We have a terrible bench except for Jones. Ozzie ball sucks bring back the big boppers!

EdHerman12
04-30-2010, 10:40 PM
We're not even on the same page as the Yankees...as usual...there's no positives out of this game..we get 3 runs and Freddy goes right out and let's them get 2 right off the bat. All of you can spin this as positively as you want...but if this guy is going to go out every 5 games and lob the ball at teams (I don't care what he did between the 1st and the 6th)...we're not going to win a whole lot of games...after getting off the snide in Texas yesterday we go to NY...and show the world the differece between a team that has players who know how to get it done...and a team that players who don't...Someone said it a few posts back...this is a bad team...if you think differently then goody goody for you...We can't beat Cleveland but the Twins can sure kick their behinds...now can't they?

There are no moral victories in baseball...you either win...or you lose...everything else is just bull....

Rikirk
04-30-2010, 10:42 PM
I agree...Ozzyball sucks.

Id rather play Griffball.

SoxFan1979
04-30-2010, 10:47 PM
these guy's are pathetic! We strikeout,hit into doubleplays never score with RISP. Quentin,Pierre are losy out fielders. Leftside of are infield look overwhelmed. We have a terrible bench except for Jones. Ozzie ball sucks bring back the big boppers!

I'm with you. :smile:

Still a lot of season left but it has been a terrible start for sure.

LETS GO SOX WAKE THE F UP!

Tragg
04-30-2010, 10:48 PM
Quentin's not 100%, but really you'd still have 2 of Pierre, Kotsay, Nix, or Vizquel in the lineup tonight.
And 3 of those 4 can't hit in good years; and the 4th is Pierre.
It's a team constructed for Ozzieball.

doublem23
04-30-2010, 10:50 PM
And 3 of those 4 can't hit in good years; and the 4th is Pierre.
It's a team constructed for Ozzieball.

I'm not arguing with you, the fact that those 4 guys makes up our bench is terrible. Maybe 1 of those guys could sneak onto a good team, but all 4? No way.

cv sox fan
04-30-2010, 11:03 PM
I can deal with Pierre over Pods he is better on the base path It's Theain for Getz and Fields then sign him multiple years. Our infield was better last year. I miss JD.

doublem23
04-30-2010, 11:06 PM
I can deal with Pierre over Pods he is better on the base path It's Theain for Getz and Fields then sign him multiple years. Our infield was better last year. I miss JD.

The Josh Fields who is out for the year after having surgery on his strained hip flexor?

Teahen blows, but how big of fish can you catch when your bait is Fields and Chris Getz?

fram40
04-30-2010, 11:10 PM
I'm just sick and tired of watching the Sox beat themselves - especially the pitchers. They walk guys that invariably score, Thornton has a HBP that becomes the winning run, Freddy gets caught up throwing over to first and hangs something that Jeter whacks out of the park. Just as Hawk said.

This team beats itself - night after night after night. So damn frustrating.

LoveYourSuit
04-30-2010, 11:17 PM
I roasted Jenks yesterday for his mediocre performances to close a game.

Come to look at it, Jenks has cost us ZERO games this season and Thornton already has cost us TWO.

I still think Thornton is our most valueable pitcher and my favorite, but I would have never thought seeing the edge at 2-0 for Jenks.

thomas35forever
04-30-2010, 11:32 PM
It was over as soon as Jeter hit the triple. That's what happens when you have a utility infielder playing the outfield. That shows we need another outfielder on the bench.

I can't believe how badly this team has failed to live up to the hype. How am I supposed to watch a team that stumbles like this out of the gate and expect them to recover?

TDog
04-30-2010, 11:42 PM
I roasted Jenks yesterday for his mediocre performances to close a game.

Come to look at it, Jenks has cost us ZERO games this season and Thornton already has cost us TWO.

I still think Thornton is our most valueable pitcher and my favorite, but I would have never thought seeing the edge at 2-0 for Jenks.

Thornton has cost the White Sox three games this season.

On April 8, pitching with a one-run lead in the top of the eighth inning, Thornton struck out Sizemore and Choo before giving up a single to Hafner and a run-scoring double to Peralta to be tagged with a blown save. There was an intentional walk and a wild pitch before he struck out Valbuena to end the inning.

Jenks came in with the score tied in the ninth. The first hitter reached on an error. Then there was a sacrifice and two strikeouts, but I'm sure people were nervous and cursing Guillen for bringing in Jenks with the score tied.

The Indians scored two in the 11th against Putz to win.

PhillipsBubba
04-30-2010, 11:49 PM
It was over as soon as Jeter hit the triple. That's what happens when you have a utility infielder playing the outfield. That shows we need another outfielder on the bench.

I hear Brian Anderson's available...too bad for him he's not married to Ozzie's cousin!

guillensdisciple
04-30-2010, 11:57 PM
The "well that sucked" gamethreads are becoming very popular here.

Thome_Fan
05-01-2010, 12:05 AM
The "well that sucked" gamethreads are becoming very popular here.

What else would you have us say?

doublem23
05-01-2010, 12:08 AM
I hear Brian Anderson's available...too bad for him he's not married to Ozzie's cousin!

Not to mention, he's a terrible baseball player.

Brian26
05-01-2010, 12:09 AM
Yeah, another 2001 is just what we need. :(:

Please, no Canseco off waivers.

Brian26
05-01-2010, 12:11 AM
We have one injury, and that sends Nix into the starting outfield.

And Nix probably came closer to catching that Jeter ball than Jones, Kotsay or Quentin would have.

Brian26
05-01-2010, 12:13 AM
these guy's are pathetic! We strikeout,hit into doubleplays never score with RISP. Quentin,Pierre are losy out fielders. Leftside of are infield look overwhelmed. We have a terrible bench except for Jones. Ozzie ball sucks bring back the big boppers!

Kudos to the Cherry Valley School System.

guillensdisciple
05-01-2010, 12:28 AM
What else would you have us say?


Just making an observation, and I completely agree with the name.

ndgt10
05-01-2010, 12:37 AM
We need more power hitters. What happened to the Sox of old?

We need to go 86-53 to get to 95 wins which I think would get us in the playoffs.

It's got to start soon but it's not impossible.

guillensdisciple
05-01-2010, 12:44 AM
We need more power hitters. What happened to the Sox of old?

We need to go 86-53 to get to 95 wins which I think would get us in the playoffs.

It's got to start soon but it's not impossible.

How the hell will this team go 33 games over .500 the rest of the way?

That's insane.

voodoochile
05-01-2010, 12:46 AM
We have one injury, and that sends Nix into the starting outfield.
That's some depth for the #5 payroll in the league.:(:

No, we have two injuries. TCQ was DH because of his strained quad. Then when Jones got scratched they were stuck. I don't know if Ozzie could have changed and put TCQ in the field without losing his DH at that point in time. I don't know what the rules are or how early the lineup is submitted, but either way, both TCQ and Jones are hurting. That's not one injury, it's two and yeah, that stretches any team to the thin side...

doublem23
05-01-2010, 12:54 AM
How the hell will this team go 33 games over .500 the rest of the way?

That's insane.

Bla bla bla obligatory mention 2005 Astros 15-30 World Series bla bla bla

guillensdisciple
05-01-2010, 12:56 AM
Bla bla bla obligatory mention 2005 Astros 15-30 World Series bla bla bla


Touche sir, touche.

.... but I don't want to lose the World Series to the 2005 White Sox.

Crede24Thome25
05-01-2010, 12:57 AM
The bottom four hitters had one hit.

Sort of wondering why Thornton is brought in the seventh inning again. Is there any reason why Santos, Putz, and Linebrink can't be used?
That was my same reaction when he was brought in, not a smart move by Ozzie

doublem23
05-01-2010, 12:58 AM
Touche sir, touche.

.... but I don't want to lose the World Series to the 2005 White Sox.

Let's just get back to .500 and take it one step at a time.

At this rate, the season will be essentially over by the All-Star Break.

fram40
05-01-2010, 01:03 AM
How the hell will this team go 33 games over .500 the rest of the way?

That's insane.

Probably insane. But IF they start pitching better, and IF they hit oh, maybe .200 with RISP - they could win a lot of games. They were 1 for 10 with RISP tonight, the Yankees were 4 for 7. What if the Yankees go 2 for 7? What if Freddy (and Jake, of course) stop walking guys? What if Thornton doesn't hit the leadoff guy? I know I know ... if if if.

The thing is - I am not asking for much. Not that much given the talent of this club. Pitching wise - they can do it. And hitting .200 with RISP is not asking that much. seriously. But then they would probably figure out some other way to lose the damn game.

I haven't totally lost hope, but then I am ****ing insane

doublem23
05-01-2010, 01:09 AM
I haven't totally lost hope, but then I am ****ing insane

:thumbsup:

I like your attitude.

Congratulations. (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=13&id=3937)

Nellie_Fox
05-01-2010, 01:21 AM
Kudos to the Cherry Valley School System.:rolling:

Tragg
05-01-2010, 01:27 AM
No, we have two injuries. TCQ was DH because of his strained quad. Then when Jones got scratched they were stuck. I don't know if Ozzie could have changed and put TCQ in the field without losing his DH at that point in time. I don't know what the rules are or how early the lineup is submitted, but either way, both TCQ and Jones are hurting. That's not one injury, it's two and yeah, that stretches any team to the thin side...
But he started DH. I stand by my position that a bench of Vizquel, Kotsay and Nix is pretty bad for the number 5 payroll in the league. You should be able to find adequate replacements for at least one or 2 of those 3 at league minimums out of your farm. Not money well spent.

soxlady8
05-01-2010, 04:43 AM
same stuff ... different game !

However, I was glad to see Captain K hit the 3 run shot
in the beginning of the game before I was out and about for the evening.

I wonder if Danks will be terrific and the offense will be awful tomorrow ?

We should take one game at least !

NLaloosh
05-01-2010, 05:17 AM
Imagine what the record would be if Konerko wasn't playing out of his mind.

This team has looked more disjointed than any Sox team that I can remember.

Forget the talent, these guys just don't seem to have what it takes to win baseball games on any regular basis.

I don't know what the answer is but it isn't on the pitching side. This offense is a complete disgrace.

joegraz
05-01-2010, 06:44 AM
This team just isn't that good, and one of their best hitters was out due to back spasms. That's all there is to it.

Amen. Die hard doesn't necessarily mean you can't call 'em like you see 'em. I'll still be watching and hoping....just not expecting.

wassagstdu
05-01-2010, 08:26 AM
We need more power hitters.
WSI dream team: Nine guys each hit 60 HR. The team scores a total of 540 runs (3.3 per game) and finishes last. I think this team is a pretty good approximation of our dream (tops in HR, bottom in everything else).

BadBobbyJenks
05-01-2010, 08:58 AM
Bad teams lose this game.

munchman33
05-01-2010, 09:20 AM
I can deal with Pierre over Pods he is better on the base path It's Theain for Getz and Fields then sign him multiple years. Our infield was better last year. I miss JD.

Lamenting the loss of Rainbow Relay for defense is not a good way to endear yourself around here. 2B is a more important defensive position, and we have a better defender there now.

:welcome:

Waysouthsider
05-01-2010, 09:56 AM
What happened to Pierre getting benched? Maybe that just meant he had to ride in a middle seat on the charter?

Yeah, I thought he was going to sit? And not on the plane!!!

:scratch:

This is all like a bad nightmare...

bunty_doghunter
05-01-2010, 10:21 AM
The "well that sucked" gamethreads are becoming very popular here.
Not so much 'popular' as 'ubiquitous'!

palehozenychicty
05-01-2010, 12:06 PM
We just ain't that good.