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KnightSox
04-23-2010, 01:39 PM
I heard Kerry Sayers say something on the Score this morning that the Sox and Cubs will announce something on Monday.

Does anybody have any idea what it is?

slavko
04-23-2010, 01:51 PM
Half-price tickets with Pepsi cans?

Cat Thief
04-23-2010, 01:55 PM
Walker and Jaramillo bobbleheads?

Marqhead
04-23-2010, 02:01 PM
Games canceled due to mutual disgust?

KnightSox
04-23-2010, 02:10 PM
Games canceled due to mutual disgust?I like it!

GoGoCrede
04-23-2010, 02:59 PM
Games canceled due to mutual disgust?

:rolling:

cws05champ
04-23-2010, 03:37 PM
Games canceled due to mutual disgust?

LOL!!!! (Literally) :rolling::rolling:

beasly213
04-23-2010, 03:48 PM
I'm guessing throw back Uniforms or something for the series.

Or possibly next year they'll play another series with eachother.

soltrain21
04-23-2010, 03:51 PM
Rock n' Jock Softball style rules?

pythons007
04-23-2010, 04:24 PM
Both teams get to hit off a tee to generate some offense for the Crosstown Classic.

Nellie_Fox
04-23-2010, 04:26 PM
Greg Walker and Rudy Jamarillo will mud wrestle in center field; winner is the hitting coach for both teams.

jabrch
04-23-2010, 04:31 PM
Greg Walker and Rudy Jamarillo will mud wrestle in center field; winner is the hitting coach for both teams.

Better yet, LOSER has to be the hitting coach for both teams...

Nellie_Fox
04-23-2010, 04:35 PM
Better yet, LOSER has to be the hitting coach for both teams...I like yours better.

soltrain21
04-23-2010, 05:01 PM
Players will be replaced by kittens.

WhiteSoxFTW
04-23-2010, 05:09 PM
The new owners of the Cubs are going to tear down Wrigley Field for a new modern stadium and want some advice from the White Sox folks and maybe see if they could play some home games at the Cell.

:tongue:

Oblong
04-23-2010, 05:29 PM
A joint jersey retirement ceremony for Sammy. #25 and #21.

soltrain21
04-23-2010, 05:50 PM
A joint jersey retirement ceremony for Sammy. #25 and #21.

A musical about the Jon Garland trade.

dwalteroo
04-23-2010, 06:00 PM
Ribbie and Rhubarb reenact the Bartman ball incident. Ribbie plays Bartman, Rhubarb plays Moises Alou.

CLR01
04-23-2010, 06:07 PM
Greg Walker and Rudy Jamarillo will mud wrestle in center field; winner is the hitting coach for both teams.

Better yet, LOSER has to be the hitting coach for both teams...

I like yours better.


Either way I am back to rooting for the asteroid.

Medford Bobby
04-23-2010, 07:16 PM
They will confuse Cub fans as both teams will wearing jersey's with "CHICAGO" on the front.....:scratch:

TommyJohn
04-23-2010, 07:58 PM
a joint jersey retirement ceremony for sammy. #25 and #21.
yaaaaahhhhhhh!!!

DumpJerry
04-23-2010, 10:11 PM
They will confuse Cub fans as both teams will wearing jersey's with "CHICAGO" on the front.....:scratch:
:kneeslap::roflmao::rolling::gulp::):happybday


Maybe the Cubs will bring back Barrett for a showdown with AJ.

PhillipsBubba
04-23-2010, 10:33 PM
Barry Obama will throw at the first drunk:gulp:

Frontman
04-23-2010, 11:27 PM
Cubs will finally admit the club started as the Chicago White Stockings?

The Sox come clean and admit they won; lost, and even threw a World Series since the last Cubs win?

ChiSoxGirl
04-23-2010, 11:38 PM
Cubs will finally admit the club started as the Chicago White Stockings?

The Sox come clean and admit they won; lost, and even threw a World Series since the last Cubs win?

Well, I would think the announcement would have to contain some sort of "new" information. This is old news; EXTREMELY old news! :tongue:

doublem23
04-23-2010, 11:38 PM
Zombie Harry Caray singing Take Me Out to the Ballgame all six games.

october23sp
04-23-2010, 11:46 PM
Instead of baseball the games will be replaced with MXC.

vqVQTeeA8E8

ChiSoxGirl
04-23-2010, 11:51 PM
Instead of baseball the games will be replaced with MXC.

vqVQTeeA8E8

OMG, this is the funniest damn show I've ever seen! :rolling: I own one of the seasons on DVD.

october23sp
04-23-2010, 11:57 PM
OMG, this is the funniest damn show I've ever seen! :rolling: I own one of the seasons on DVD.

Then "Wipeout" came along and sucked because they had no idea why people liked MXC.

ChiSoxGirl
04-24-2010, 12:01 AM
Then "Wipeout" came along and sucked because they had no idea why people liked MXC.

The funniest MXC "game" I've ever seen is the horse race one that's featured in the clip that was posted. The first time I saw that, I laughed so hard that I cried.

DSpivack
04-24-2010, 01:12 AM
Then "Wipeout" came along and sucked because they had no idea why people liked MXC.

The funniest MXC "game" I've ever seen is the horse race one that's featured in the clip that was posted. The first time I saw that, I laughed so hard that I cried.

I've never heard of that, but it seems pretty similar to Ninja Warrior, which I love. I can picture Zambrano going up against Garcia in that.

Konerko05
04-24-2010, 06:08 AM
Michael Jordan is making a baseball comeback.

Frontman
04-24-2010, 07:39 AM
Michael Jordan is making a baseball comeback.

Can't. He's still on the stage giving his "acceptance" speech. Last I checked, he was mocking the, at the time, 3 year old girl who took his ball away from him in daycare...

Chez
04-24-2010, 09:39 AM
A musical about the Jon Garland trade.

Excellent. Nathan Laine as Matt Karchner?

TommyJohn
04-24-2010, 11:40 AM
Can't. He's still on the stage giving his "acceptance" speech. Last I checked, he was mocking the, at the time, 3 year old girl who took his ball away from him in daycare...What? Michael's speech was GREAT!! I love how he tore into everybody!!

And after the 3 year old, he will point out the doctor who delivered him, and how he disrespected him by holding him upside down and slapping him on the ass.

WhiteSoxFTW
04-24-2010, 12:48 PM
I'm going to my first regular season Sox/Cubs game this year at the Cell. I really hope they don't do something really stupid this year promotion or PR wise.

DrCrawdad
04-24-2010, 01:32 PM
I heard Kerry Sayers say something on the Score this morning that the Sox and Cubs will announce something on Monday.

Does anybody have any idea what it is?

Harry Caray will sing the 7th stretch, "Take Me Out To The Ballgame," via a recording of Harry singing it at Comiskey Park.

GoGoCrede
04-24-2010, 01:34 PM
After all these funny ideas in this thread, the actual announcement better not be lame and/or unexciting.

Frontman
04-24-2010, 10:20 PM
What? Michael's speech was GREAT!! I love how he tore into everybody!!

And after the 3 year old, he will point out the doctor who delivered him, and how he disrespected him by holding him upside down and slapping him on the ass.

:gulp::gulp::gulp:

This just in; he's now mad at his parents for having him in Feb. He feels he shouldn't of been an Aquarius, as he never has been a water boy. He feels he should of been a Leo.

Sockinchisox
04-26-2010, 01:13 AM
....they're going to give a trophy to the team that wins. As if this stupid series needed to be glorified.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/get-ready-for-a-city-series-trophy.html

GoGoCrede
04-26-2010, 01:20 AM
....they're going to give a trophy to the team that wins. As if this stupid series needed to be glorified.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/get-ready-for-a-city-series-trophy.html

:rolling: What a complete and utter joke. Kind of reminds me of those "attendance trophies" the Cubs get...oh wait...those don't exist.

JermaineDye05
04-26-2010, 01:23 AM
That is the most retarded thing I've ever heard of.

It has to be a joke, why would they play an extra game if they split the series? So now each team has to lose an off-day for this ****?

it doesn't make sense.

Mod edit: Go read WSI rules in the clubhouse.

Sockinchisox
04-26-2010, 01:25 AM
That is the most retarded thing I've ever heard of.

It has to be a joke, why would they play an extra game if they split the series? So now each team has to lose an off-day for this ****?

it doesn't make sense.

I don't think it would be a tiebreaker game. I think it means they have an idea for a tie-breaking stat or record or something.

DSpivack
04-26-2010, 01:29 AM
I don't think it would be a tiebreaker game. I think it means they have an idea for a tie-breaking stat or record or something.

Konerko races Lou Piniella in a 50-yard dash, Ozzie goes up against Soriano in the long jump, something along those lines for a tiebreaker.

JermaineDye05
04-26-2010, 01:36 AM
Konerko races Lou Piniella in a 50-yard dash, Ozzie goes up against Soriano in the long jump, something along those lines for a tiebreaker.

Actually I hear it'll be a foot race between Farmio and Santo.

Farmer wins by default.

GoGoCrede
04-26-2010, 01:37 AM
Maybe a story contest between Santo and Hawk, to see which one can put the listening audience to sleep faster. Harold Reynolds will be the judge.

Nellie_Fox
04-26-2010, 01:54 AM
Maybe a story contest between Santos and Hawk, to see which one can put the listening audience to sleep faster. Harold Reynolds will be the judge.I'm assuming you mean Santo, and I don't care how much you dislike the Hawk, there's nobody in the same hemisphere with Santo at being incredibly bad and useless as an announcer.

"oh, no, aw jeez." Incredible radio analysis.

GoGoCrede
04-26-2010, 01:55 AM
I'm assuming you mean Santo, and I don't care how much you dislike the Hawk, there's nobody in the same hemisphere with Santo at being incredibly bad and useless as an announcer.

"oh, no, aw jeez." Incredible radio analysis.

I just noticed the Santo error and fixed it a second before you noticed it. Oops. :redface:

JermaineDye05
04-26-2010, 02:02 AM
Maybe a story contest between Santo and Hawk,to see which one can put the listening audience to sleep faster. Harold Reynolds will be the judge.

How about a contest to see who can whine the least?

DumpJerry
04-26-2010, 08:00 AM
On The Score today, they said it will be a trophy awarded to the team that wins the season series. They said the Crosstown Classic is "going college style.":rolleyes:

Boondock Saint
04-26-2010, 08:19 AM
On The Score today, they said it will be a trophy awarded to the team that wins the season series. They said the Crosstown Classic is "going college style.":rolleyes:

:chunks

I was hoping for an announcement stating that the series would no longer be an annual event. This is beyond stupid.

C-Dawg
04-26-2010, 08:48 AM
There's already MUCH too much media attention paid to this series. I'd be happier if they went back to just one 3-game series per season, or better yet, cut out the interleague circus entirely. Its already bad enough when the TV and newspapers treat these games like they're the World Series.

I wish the trend would be for LESS emphasis on these games, not more.

SaltyPretzel
04-26-2010, 09:34 AM
On The Score today, they said it will be a trophy awarded to the team that wins the season series. They said the Crosstown Classic is "going college style.":rolleyes:

They should use Bill Veeck's prosthetic leg.

Thome_Fan
04-26-2010, 10:50 AM
Apparently it's for more than just 6 games now...

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/david-kaplan-chicago-sports/2010/04/the-cubs-and-white-sox-will-play-for-a-trophy.html

WhiteSoxFTW
04-26-2010, 10:51 AM
This is so asinine.

Thome_Fan
04-26-2010, 10:54 AM
This is so asinine.

I agree completely.

RedHeadPaleHoser
04-26-2010, 10:55 AM
Just one more reason to hate the ****ing Crosstown series.

But it might be the only trophy Cub fans will see in their lifetime. NO TEAL.

JermaineDye05
04-26-2010, 10:59 AM
There's already a thread in "WTS?"

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=119562

I agree with everyone, this idea is stupid.

JermaineDye05
04-26-2010, 11:00 AM
There already is a trophy for "bragging rights"....

http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/e0fb2e051eecb173adb0cf27249f185b/2005-WORLD-SERIES.jpg

Thome_Fan
04-26-2010, 11:01 AM
There's already a thread in "WTS?"

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=119562

I agree with everyone, this idea is stupid.

Damn. I thought I finally broke news. :tongue:

hi im skot
04-26-2010, 11:09 AM
****ing dumb.

Streets
04-26-2010, 11:17 AM
I'm honestly quite tired of the whole Sox-Cubs thing. I'd rather go to St. Louis for a series more than once ever 5 years it seems like.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/get-ready-for-a-city-series-trophy.html

mzh
04-26-2010, 11:19 AM
Stupid. This isn't college football. What exactly do they hope to accomplish with this?

SephClone89
04-26-2010, 11:21 AM
That's three threads now on this...

Iwritecode
04-26-2010, 11:22 AM
I don't think it would be a tiebreaker game. I think it means they have an idea for a tie-breaking stat or record or something.

There is no tiebreaker. If the teams both win 3 games, whoever wins the LAST game gets trophy.

GoGoCrede
04-26-2010, 11:30 AM
I believe we currently lead the all-time series by one game....what an accomplishment.

This trophy thing is utterly embarrassing...will it even bring out more fans?

aryzner
04-26-2010, 11:33 AM
This is officially the worst idea ever.

TheOldRoman
04-26-2010, 11:34 AM
Booooooo.

Railsplitter
04-26-2010, 11:36 AM
Dumb idea, like those "Governor's Cup" games preseason games played NFL teams in the same state, but different conferences.

SoxGirl4Life
04-26-2010, 11:39 AM
There already is a trophy for "bragging rights"....

http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/e0fb2e051eecb173adb0cf27249f185b/2005-WORLD-SERIES.jpg

Agreed

g0g0
04-26-2010, 11:40 AM
Lame.

MARTINMVP
04-26-2010, 12:09 PM
I guess ticket sales are so bad for the Cubs-Sox series each year that they came up with a creative way to draw interest.

The series brings out the worst in each fan base, I have grown to hate it. This sounds like a Ricketts/Cubs brass idea that the Sox agreed to go along with.

DaveFeelsRight
04-26-2010, 12:12 PM
just another reason for knucklehead sox/cubs fans to fight.

salty99
04-26-2010, 12:12 PM
Two Thumbs Way Down!

sox1970
04-26-2010, 12:17 PM
Stupid idea. Brooks, you're losing it.

Rocky Soprano
04-26-2010, 12:24 PM
Stupid idea. Brooks, you're losing it.

Where did you see that this was Brooks idea?

thomas35forever
04-26-2010, 12:25 PM
It's official: the Crosstown Classic has been put on the same spectrum as any college football rivalry. To quote an old SNL sketch, "who are the ad wizards who came up with this one?"

Stupid idea. The series already brings out the worst in both fans. Why do we need one more reason?

Cubs fans apparently don't like this either:
http://northsidebaseball.com/bridge/index.php?f=2&t=57301&rb_v=viewtopic

sox1970
04-26-2010, 12:27 PM
Where did you see that this was Brooks idea?

I didn't. Figured it was a marketing thing, which would be Brooks dept.

Anyway you slice it, it's unnecessary, dumb, small townish, and a couple other words I can't use on this site.

Hitmen77
04-26-2010, 12:30 PM
I was hoping for an announcement stating that the series would no longer be an annual event. This is beyond stupid.

There's already MUCH too much media attention paid to this series. I'd be happier if they went back to just one 3-game series per season, or better yet, cut out the interleague circus entirely. Its already bad enough when the TV and newspapers treat these games like they're the World Series.

I wish the trend would be for LESS emphasis on these games, not more.

This is so asinine.

Just one more reason to hate the ****ing Crosstown series.

But it might be the only trophy Cub fans will see in their lifetime. NO TEAL.

****ing dumb.

I'm honestly quite tired of the whole Sox-Cubs thing. I'd rather go to St. Louis for a series more than once ever 5 years it seems like.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/get-ready-for-a-city-series-trophy.html

Stupid. This isn't college football. What exactly do they hope to accomplish with this?

Booooooo.

Dumb idea, like those "Governor's Cup" games preseason games played NFL teams in the same state, but different conferences.

Lame.


The series brings out the worst in each fan base, I have grown to hate it.

just another reason for knucklehead sox/cubs fans to fight.

Two Thumbs Way Down!

Stupid idea.

I completely agree!!!

....plus IMO there will only ever be one Chicago Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irv_Kupcinet).

spawn
04-26-2010, 12:35 PM
I'm sick of the series to begin with. I don't really give a **** about inner-city trophies. What a horrendous idea.

Rocky Soprano
04-26-2010, 12:37 PM
I didn't. Figured it was a marketing thing, which would be Brooks dept.

Anyway you slice it, it's unnecessary, dumb, small townish, and a couple other words I can't use on this site.

There's two teams involved, who's to say this came out of Brooks department? Brooks has done a ton of great things while he's been here and it would surprise me if he came up with this. I just don't see a reason to call out Brooks on this, well at least not yet.

I agree that it is a stupid idea.

spawn
04-26-2010, 12:38 PM
Well, Cubs fans will probably love it. It's the only trophy they've had a shot of winning in the last 100+ years.

Rocky Soprano
04-26-2010, 12:41 PM
Well, Cubs fans will probably love it. It's the only trophy they've had a shot of winning in the last 100+ years.

You must be forgetting the attendace trophy they throw in our faces every year.

roylestillman
04-26-2010, 12:44 PM
The British Petrolium Cup.... Does anybody think $$$$'s might have had something to do with this "new tradition?" Kaplan's giddiness just magnifies how stupid this is.

dickallen15
04-26-2010, 12:45 PM
BP is sponsoring this and both teams will get over $1 million. Its a stupid idea, but Wrigley has undergone some renovations and a trophy case was built. They have to find some way to put something in there.

veeter
04-26-2010, 12:51 PM
Put me down for this being a really, really, stupid thing.

Over By There
04-26-2010, 01:19 PM
I smell a poll coming, but IMO... meh. I'm not thrilled with it but I don't see why anyone would be so outraged. I think at WSI we go out of our way to make sure Cubs fans know we don't care about them (as much as they think we do), but a lot of people get into this stuff. If they didn't, the games would be much more pleasant to attend. I don't follow the Cubs much during the season, but I'll admit that I hope the Sox beat the snot out of them those two weekends. A trophy is useless, but a physical manifestation of what many/most of us want, which is bragging rights.

beasly213
04-26-2010, 01:23 PM
It's stupid. But just a way for the teams to make a few more bucks from sponsors.

I can't wait to see how hilarious this thing looks.

VeeckAsInWreck
04-26-2010, 01:44 PM
Will the winning team of the cup be able to take it to any BP station for Free fountain drinks? If so, then the players will be really motivated.

soltrain21
04-26-2010, 01:54 PM
This is a very stupid idea. I like how Kaplan tried to paint imagery of the Sox or Cubs celebrating with the trophy on the other team's field.

Like the players are actually going to give a flying **** about this thing?

JermaineDye05
04-26-2010, 01:58 PM
I would rather have a wives softball game for a bragging rights trophy.

WhiteSoxFTW
04-26-2010, 02:02 PM
*** is Kaplan smoking. I am not as familiar with him as I am with some of the other media personalities from Chicago. Is this typical from him? He comes off sounding like a total meatball.

A rivalry that runs generations deep? :scratch: He is cheerleading this BS "event". Gag me.

#1swisher
04-26-2010, 02:02 PM
Let me be the first to say... I like the idea!:cool: Hey, what do I know,
I also like the Black Alt Unis:redneck

SephClone89
04-26-2010, 02:03 PM
*** is Kaplan smoking. I am not as familiar with him as I am with some of the other media personalities from Chicago. Is this typical from him? He comes off sounding like a total meatball.

A rivalry that runs generations deep? :scratch: He is cheerleading this BS "event". Gag me.

He is always awful. Ever see Chicago Tribune Live?

jdm2662
04-26-2010, 02:05 PM
He is always awful. Ever see Chicago Tribune Live?

Have I ever. I remember how great the show was when Jiggets was the host. As soon as he took over, I make sure I don't watch. He's such an annoying tool.

canOcorn
04-26-2010, 02:21 PM
This is a very stupid idea. I like how Kaplan tried to paint imagery of the Sox or Cubs celebrating with the trophy on the other team's field.

Like the players are actually going to give a flying **** about this thing?

And they'll need to switch up the schedule or the trophy will always be awarded at our park. This will be the 4th consecutive season that the second series is at home. That might be some quirk, but it seems it's that way more often than not.

whitesoxfan
04-26-2010, 02:23 PM
Honest question - how does David Kaplan have a job? Nobody likes this moron. I'm sure CTL's ratings have dropped ever since he took over for Jigs. His radio show is atrocious.

He's a total meathead.

mjmcend
04-26-2010, 02:25 PM
Stupid. This isn't college football. What exactly do they hope to accomplish with this?

Cash baby, straight cash.

If you're going to do something this stupid, at least have the decency to have a split series result in the current holder of the trophy retaining it.

Of course, that would hurt merchandising sales because you couldn't really call a team which retained the trophy following a series split to the the "champions" for that year.

But who cares when there is money to be made from marketing and merchandising?

Embarrassing. To all of us. Makes Chicago seem 'small timey' and more on par with a single A town.

jdm2662
04-26-2010, 02:31 PM
Honest question - how does David Kaplan have a job? Nobody likes this moron. I'm sure CTL's ratings have dropped ever since he took over for Jigs. His radio show is atrocious.

He's a total meathead.

Well, he's a Cubbie loving tool, so him being on WGN Radio is just fine. However, that doesn't explain him being on CTL, a once great show that sucks with his presence

harwar
04-26-2010, 02:35 PM
I think the fans attending the game of the winning team should get free gasoline for a year from BP .. hey, it's no big deal really, it's just another commercial .. i guess that's what marketing departments are for ..

DonnieDarko
04-26-2010, 02:36 PM
I like the idea. Maybe I'm just one of the few that like the Crosstown Classic...

twinsuck
04-26-2010, 02:37 PM
This has to be the stupidest idea they could come up with. Do they really think this is going to get the fans excited?? sooooo dumb. The only trophy that will ever matter is the one the Sox hoisted in 2005.

Chez
04-26-2010, 02:40 PM
Let me be the first to say... I like the idea!:cool: Hey, what do I know,
I also like the Black Alt Unis:redneck

I also like the idea (though I don't like the black alt uniforms!). Not sure why everyone is so worked up against awarding a trophy for the series winner. I think it adds a little something to the rivalry -- and make no mistake about it, it is a rivalry. And yes, I know I'm supposed to say and believe that the 17 games with the Royals are more important than the six games against the Cubs , blah, blah, blah. I don't care if it's a rip off of the college rivalry trophies, I think it's a great idea. It's sports; it's supposed to be fun!

chisoxfanatic
04-26-2010, 02:41 PM
There is no tiebreaker. If the teams both win 3 games, whoever wins the LAST game gets trophy.
Though this whole thing is dumb, that is the dumbest tiebreaker I've ever heard of! A much better tie-breaker would be run differential in those 6 games played. That tie-breaking idea must've been formed by a Cub fan.
I believe we currently lead the all-time series by one game....what an accomplishment.
2 games

CPditka
04-26-2010, 02:43 PM
I think this is in response to last years rainout game @ Wrigley. It got made up in Sept, and both teams were crap. And not too many people went ( I think there was also a Bears Preseason game?)

This is to ensure that people (morons?) care about these games even if they mean next to nothing (or no more than the next series vs ____).

whitesoxfan
04-26-2010, 02:48 PM
I think this is in response to last years rainout game @ Wrigley. It got made up in Sept, and both teams were crap. And not too many people went ( I think there was also a Bears Preseason game?)

This is to ensure that people (morons?) care about these games even if they mean next to nothing (or no more than the next series vs ____).

That was one of the worst professional baseball games I've seen.

WhiteSoxFTW
04-26-2010, 03:06 PM
He is always awful. Ever see Chicago Tribune Live?

No, I've seen the promos, though. That's probably why I've never watched it, now that I think about it. I don't really do White Sox postgame or anything else on CSN. I'd rather come to WSI for my postgame. :D:

spawn
04-26-2010, 03:06 PM
I also like the idea (though I don't like the black alt uniforms!). Not sure why everyone is so worked up against awarding a trophy for the series winner. I think it adds a little something to the rivalry -- and make no mistake about it, it is a rivalry. And yes, I know I'm supposed to say and believe that the 17 games with the Royals are more important than the six games against the Cubs , blah, blah, blah. I don't care if it's a rip off of the college rivalry trophies, I think it's a great idea. It's sports; it's supposed to be fun!
So, if both teams fail to make the playoffs this season, and the Sox win the season series, we're suppose to say "Hey, we didn't win a winnable division and have no shot at a World Series trophy, but look at the cool trophy we got for winning our series with th Cubs!" It's even worse if the Cubs go on to the playoffs and the Sox don't. Do you think their fans would give a damn about a trophy the Sox won? We'd look like idiots for celebrating winning a meaningless trophy. Thanks but no thanks.

ewokpelts
04-26-2010, 03:16 PM
I think this is in response to last years rainout game @ Wrigley. It got made up in Sept, and both teams were crap. And not too many people went ( I think there was also a Bears Preseason game?)

This is to ensure that people (morons?) care about these games even if they mean next to nothing (or no more than the next series vs ____).game was sold out. and the bears played at NIGHT, so no conflict. in fact, i think being on a bears game day helped it, as as people made a double header out of it. they even went out and bought bears preseason tix.

Chez
04-26-2010, 03:24 PM
So, if both teams fail to make the playoffs this season, and the Sox win the season series, we're suppose to say "Hey, we didn't win a winnable division and have no shot at a World Series trophy, but look at the cool trophy we got for winning our series with th Cubs!" It's even worse if the Cubs go on to the playoffs and the Sox don't. Do you think their fans would give a damn about a trophy the Sox won? We'd look like idiots for celebrating winning a meaningless trophy. Thanks but no thanks.

Except the celebrating would be in June after the six games are decided and before we fail to win a winnable division! The trophy isn't meaningless in June. Tell me you don't care about the six games against the Cubs more than six games against the Royals? In fact, I care too much about them!

SephClone89
04-26-2010, 03:37 PM
Tell me you don't care about the six games against the Cubs more than six games against the Royals? In fact, I care too much about them!

I think most of us could admit that we get a lot of satisfaction out of beating the Cubs, but most of us would be totally fine with the Crosstown Series going caput.

sox1970
04-26-2010, 03:39 PM
Except the celebrating would be in June after the six games are decided and before we fail to win a winnable division! The trophy isn't meaningless in June. Tell me you don't care about the six games against the Cubs more than six games against the Royals? In fact, I care too much about them!

I really don't give a **** about who the wins come against. As a whole, I think most fans are over the Sox/Cubs bull****.

spawn
04-26-2010, 03:39 PM
Except the celebrating would be in June after the six games are decided and before we fail to win a winnable division!
So, if the Sox are in last place at that time, I'm suppose to care about a trophy they won by beatnig the Cubs? Really? Yeah...no.

Tell me you don't care about the six games against the Cubs more than six games against the Royals? In fact, I care too much about them!
I don't. I care more about the games against division rivals than I do against the Cubs. I'm tired of the series to be honest. :shrug:

C-Dawg
04-26-2010, 03:47 PM
...but most of us would be totally fine with the Crosstown Series going caput.

I'd prefer going back to just ONE series against the Cubs, or better yet, treat them like the other NL teams and only play them once every several years.... OR even better, eliminate interleague entirely. The novelty has worn off in my opinion.

kobo
04-26-2010, 03:52 PM
Except the celebrating would be in June after the six games are decided and before we fail to win a winnable division! The trophy isn't meaningless in June. Tell me you don't care about the six games against the Cubs more than six games against the Royals? In fact, I care too much about them!
Right, it's meaningless year-round.

Foulke You
04-26-2010, 03:54 PM
I'd prefer going back to just ONE series against the Cubs, or better yet, treat them like the other NL teams and only play them once every several years.... OR even better, eliminate interleague entirely. The novelty has worn off in my opinion.
It is 3 guaranteed sellouts for each team at the highest premium pricing no matter what time of year they have these games. It wouldn't surprise me if they tried to expand these into 4 game sets at some point in the future.

I happen to like the crosstown series. If you can ignore the douchebaggery from the fans associated with it, the baseball itself is usually very exciting and the games are more often than not, very close ballgames which I always enjoy. Also, there seems to be a lot of memorable moments in the history of the crosstown series. It makes for an interesting mid-Summer interlude. However, what I do hate about interleague is the Twins taking 5 of 6 from their "rivals" the Milwaukee Brewers every single season.

ChiSoxGirl
04-26-2010, 03:56 PM
:rolling: What a complete and utter joke. Kind of reminds me of those "attendance trophies" the Cubs get...oh wait...those don't exist.

There's already MUCH too much media attention paid to this series. I'd be happier if they went back to just one 3-game series per season, or better yet, cut out the interleague circus entirely. Its already bad enough when the TV and newspapers treat these games like they're the World Series.

I wish the trend would be for LESS emphasis on these games, not more.

This is so asinine.

Just one more reason to hate the ****ing Crosstown series.

But it might be the only trophy Cub fans will see in their lifetime. NO TEAL.

There's already a thread in "WTS?"

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=119562

I agree with everyone, this idea is stupid.

****ing dumb.

Lame.

Two Thumbs Way Down!

Put me down for this being a really, really, stupid thing.

It's stupid. But just a way for the teams to make a few more bucks from sponsors.

I can't wait to see how hilarious this thing looks.

This is a very stupid idea. I like how Kaplan tried to paint imagery of the Sox or Cubs celebrating with the trophy on the other team's field.

Like the players are actually going to give a flying **** about this thing?

Absolutely, 100% agree with all of you! This is quite possibly the lamest thing ever.

I'm sick of the series to begin with. I don't really give a **** about inner-city trophies. What a horrendous idea.

And this would be why I no longer attend it. I get an annual invitation to go with a friend of mine and honestly, I can find much better things to do with the $50 the ticket would set me back. Half of that can buy me an afternoon out at a sports bar with my Sox friends and I'll leave there much happier and less stressed out than I would the ballpark!

I really don't give a **** about who the wins come against. As a whole, I think most fans are over the Sox/Cubs bull****.

I know this fan is!

There already is a trophy for "bragging rights"....

http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/e0fb2e051eecb173adb0cf27249f185b/2005-WORLD-SERIES.jpg

YES!!!

russ99
04-26-2010, 04:02 PM
There's two teams involved, who's to say this came out of Brooks department? Brooks has done a ton of great things while he's been here and it would surprise me if he came up with this. I just don't see a reason to call out Brooks on this, well at least not yet.

I agree that it is a stupid idea.

Agreed, but Brooks is starting to rub me the wrong way, due to a number of factors. Did you see his appearance during the rain delay before the game? A total shill job.

Maybe Sox marketing VP's have a shelf life... We liked Gallas for the first 5-6 years too.

C-Dawg
04-26-2010, 04:07 PM
Agreed, but Brooks is starting to rub me the wrong way, due to a number of factors. Did you see his appearance during the rain delay before the game? A total shill job.


What did he say?

doublem23
04-26-2010, 04:11 PM
I think most of us could admit that we get a lot of satisfaction out of beating the Cubs, but most of us would be totally fine with the Crosstown Series going caput.

That's why they're some of the best attended games of the year.

FoulTerritory
04-26-2010, 04:11 PM
I confess to a deep hatred of the Cubs, and I relish beating them, but even I have to admit that this trophy thing seems really hokey and silly.

And the trophy goes to the team that wins the last game in the event of 3-3? That doesn't make any sense at all.

Frontman
04-26-2010, 04:13 PM
What did he say?

He *gasped* promoted the team and ticket packages available.

What a jerk for doing his job....

GoGoCrede
04-26-2010, 04:21 PM
That's why they're some of the best attended games of the year.

I'd say it's THE best attended series of the year, no?

I think this trophy business is dumb, but I do look forward to the Crosstown Series every year (though I'd never actually attend one - too expensive/crazy). I'm not sick of it at all, though I do worry about some of the crazies in the stands. I don't want anyone to get hurt.

Rikirk
04-26-2010, 05:46 PM
Great...another way to breed animosity, fights and general ill will.
Wheres Abe Lincoln when you need him.

chisoxfanatic
04-26-2010, 05:58 PM
And the trophy goes to the team that wins the last game in the event of 3-3? That doesn't make any sense at all.
Seriously my point...What happens if the winning team in the last game scored less runs in those 6 games?

Carolina Kenny
04-26-2010, 06:04 PM
Very stupid idea. I hope it gets ridiculed at every possible chance.

RedHeadPaleHoser
04-26-2010, 06:08 PM
Very stupid idea. I hope it gets ridiculed at every possible chance.

Hangar needs to make a replica of it. :tongue:

TheCommander
04-26-2010, 06:10 PM
So, if both teams fail to make the playoffs this season, and the Sox win the season series, we're suppose to say "Hey, we didn't win a winnable division and have no shot at a World Series trophy, but look at the cool trophy we got for winning our series with th Cubs!" It's even worse if the Cubs go on to the playoffs and the Sox don't. Do you think their fans would give a damn about a trophy the Sox won? We'd look like idiots for celebrating winning a meaningless trophy. Thanks but no thanks.

Very well said. :clap:

BadBobbyJenks
04-26-2010, 06:20 PM
We are pillaging everything great about college football.

First the black out, now a Cup. I can't wait until we tear down the foul poles when we beat the Yankees!

ilsox7
04-26-2010, 06:23 PM
So pretty much nothing has changed except the Sox get more money?

WhiteSox5187
04-26-2010, 06:28 PM
What a silly idea, there is only one trophy I want to win every year.

Nellie_Fox
04-26-2010, 06:39 PM
Seriously my point...What happens if the winning team in the last game scored less runs in those 6 games?That is the weirdest tie-breaker I've ever heard of. Here at MSU, we play a four-game, home and home hockey series with the University of Nebraska, Omaha for the Spirit of the Maverick Trophy (both teams are called the Mavericks.) If it ends tied, it's decided by total goals.

Dick Allen
04-26-2010, 06:50 PM
This is the lamest idea ever. And whose brilliant brainstorm was this? Are the players really going to care? The tiebreaker has to be the biggest sack of garbage yet. Like chisoxfanatic said, the only logical tiebreaker is run differential. Instead, they're compounding one horrible idea with another.

On a related note, do the Yankees and Mets still play for the Mayor's Trophy or was that only when they played exhibition games? Anybody know?

anewman35
04-26-2010, 08:14 PM
So pretty much nothing has changed except the Sox get more money?


Yep. And somehow that's gotten everybody all worked up. Calm down, people. Yes, the trophy is totally meaningless and there's no reason to care, but it's not as if it actually changes anything, but the Sox get more money. Anything that results in the Sox getting more money (especially if that money doesn't come straight from our pockets) is fine by me

Frontman
04-26-2010, 08:20 PM
Yep. And somehow that's gotten everybody all worked up. Calm down, people. Yes, the trophy is totally meaningless and there's no reason to care, but it's not as if it actually changes anything, but the Sox get more money. Anything that results in the Sox getting more money (especially if that money doesn't come straight from our pockets) is fine by me

Good point, all of you who said that.

Still a stupid trophy though....

It's Dankerific
04-26-2010, 08:21 PM
The trophy idea just seems minor league.

ilsox7
04-26-2010, 08:22 PM
Good point, all of you who said that.

Still a stupid trophy though....

I agree it is pretty dumb, but if some corporation is going to throw some money at the Sox, then I am cool with it.

Frontman
04-26-2010, 08:23 PM
I agree it is pretty dumb, but if some corporation is going to throw some money at the Sox, then I am cool with it.

Same thing I said about renaming the ballpark; come to think of it. I don't care what its named; as long as the team on the field can win games.

This weekend proved it can; hopefully they can keep it rolling.

twinslayer
04-26-2010, 08:24 PM
This makes me want to gag. More reason for hatred in Chicago. I hate the Cubs, but I don't want a cup to make me hate them more. I don't want to have to think about the "Cup:." If they happen to win this year, but we win next year, we will never hear the end of the 2010 Crosstown CHAMPS! I think it will just be annoying, and it will always be annoying

anewman35
04-26-2010, 08:33 PM
This makes me want to gag. More reason for hatred in Chicago. I hate the Cubs, but I don't want a cup to make me hate them more. I don't want to have to think about the "Cup:." If they happen to win this year, but we win next year, we will never hear the end of the 2010 Crosstown CHAMPS! I think it will just be annoying, and it will always be annoying

I've always heard from Cubs fans when they won the series in a given year (and I'm sure some people here enjoy giving Cubs fans **** when we win it). People who are looking for a reason to bug fans of the other team already know who won the series, this changes nothing. It's not going to make Cubs fans more annoying, it's not possible for Cubs fans to be more annoying.

twinslayer
04-26-2010, 08:35 PM
I've always heard from Cubs fans when they won the series in a given year (and I'm sure some people here enjoy giving Cubs fans **** when we win it). People who are looking for a reason to bug fans of the other team already know who won the series, this changes nothing. It's not going to make Cubs fans more annoying, it's not possible for Cubs fans to be more annoying.

They can remember when they win a TROPHY
I don't know if they can stay sober enough to remember a series win.
But I agree, it goes both ways, and Cubs fans are just plain annoying

WizardsofOzzie
04-26-2010, 09:27 PM
Lame

Hitmen77
04-26-2010, 10:34 PM
I agree it is pretty dumb, but if some corporation is going to throw some money at the Sox, then I am cool with it.

If they can make sure to have a Crosstown Classic game scheduled for July 11 next year, will 7-Eleven throw another $500,000 our way? :redneck

34rancher
04-26-2010, 11:15 PM
This just wreaks of every kid gets a trophy. This loser mentality is the reason we have just 1 world series win in the last 180+ seasons combined.
WORST IDEA EVER...

anewman35
04-26-2010, 11:41 PM
This just wreaks of every kid gets a trophy. This loser mentality is the reason we have just 1 world series win in the last 180+ seasons combined.
WORST IDEA EVER...

The Cubs and Sox have both generally sucked for decades because they have marketing people who like to make free money? That makes sense.

Rocky Soprano
04-26-2010, 11:42 PM
What did he say?

He was on talking about how one can still buy full season, partial season, or a 13 game plan. Not sure why russ99 has an issue with that.

anewman35
04-26-2010, 11:57 PM
Frankly, the way some of you are reacting in this thread makes me really embarrassed to be a Sox fan. THIS is the worst thing ever? Come on. I can think of plenty of things the Sox have done that are far more annoying and affect us far more often (i.e. renaming the ballpark, the Chevy Pride Crew, renaming seating sections for sponsors, having any thing that could possibly be sponsor have a sponsor). This is something that'll be talked about for a few weeks maybe around the games, but that's it, and will have far less effect on our lives or our enjoyment of the Sox than many, many other decisions that the team has made. And, unlike many of other silly things the Sox have done, THE CUBS ARE DOING THIS TOO, so Cubs fans can't mock us about it. It's just a silly little thing nobody should waste time caring about. Can we be adults and just ignore something we don't like instead of bitching about it?

BadBobbyJenks
04-27-2010, 12:02 AM
Frankly, the way some of you are reacting in this thread makes me really embarrassed to be a Sox fan. THIS is the worst thing ever? Come on. I can think of plenty of things the Sox have done that are far more annoying and affect us far more often (i.e. renaming the ballpark, the Chevy Pride Crew, renaming seating sections for sponsors, having any thing that could possibly be sponsor have a sponsor). This is something that'll be talked about for a few weeks maybe around the games, but that's it, and will have far less effect on our lives or our enjoyment of the Sox than many, many other decisions that the team has made. And, unlike many of other silly things the Sox have done, THE CUBS ARE DOING THIS TOO, so Cubs fans can't mock us about it. It's just a silly little thing nobody should waste time caring about. Can we be adults and just ignore something we don't like instead of bitching about it?

Come on now it says you have been here since 2003.

Boondock Saint
04-27-2010, 02:53 AM
Frankly, the way some of you are reacting in this thread makes me really embarrassed to be a Sox fan. THIS is the worst thing ever? Come on. I can think of plenty of things the Sox have done that are far more annoying and affect us far more often (i.e. renaming the ballpark, the Chevy Pride Crew, renaming seating sections for sponsors, having any thing that could possibly be sponsor have a sponsor). This is something that'll be talked about for a few weeks maybe around the games, but that's it, and will have far less effect on our lives or our enjoyment of the Sox than many, many other decisions that the team has made. And, unlike many of other silly things the Sox have done, THE CUBS ARE DOING THIS TOO, so Cubs fans can't mock us about it. It's just a silly little thing nobody should waste time caring about. Can we be adults and just ignore something we don't like instead of bitching about it?

Yeah, God forbid someone should post an opinion about something the Chicago White Sox are doing on a Chicago White Sox message board.

HomeFish
04-27-2010, 03:12 AM
The Sox/Cubs rivalry is a part of Chicago culture whether WSI likes it or not. I like it.

spawn
04-27-2010, 07:59 AM
Frankly, the way some of you are reacting in this thread makes me really embarrassed to be a Sox fan. THIS is the worst thing ever? Come on. I can think of plenty of things the Sox have done that are far more annoying and affect us far more often (i.e. renaming the ballpark, the Chevy Pride Crew, renaming seating sections for sponsors, having any thing that could possibly be sponsor have a sponsor). This is something that'll be talked about for a few weeks maybe around the games, but that's it, and will have far less effect on our lives or our enjoyment of the Sox than many, many other decisions that the team has made. And, unlike many of other silly things the Sox have done, THE CUBS ARE DOING THIS TOO, so Cubs fans can't mock us about it. It's just a silly little thing nobody should waste time caring about. Can we be adults and just ignore something we don't like instead of bitching about it?
If it's something we're not suppose to comment on, then why are you commenting on our reactions? Maybe you should take your own advice. :shrug:

anewman35
04-27-2010, 08:13 AM
If it's something we're not suppose to comment on, then why are youcommenting on our reactions? Maybe you should take your own advice. :shrug:

A comment is fine. Acting like it's the stupidest thing the White Sox have ever done is just stupid.

C-Dawg
04-27-2010, 08:17 AM
I want to see a trophy for all our rivalries. Such as Chicago-Detroit.... The "I-94 Cup". Or Chicago-Minnesota, the "We're Not Wisconsin Cup". Chicago-Cleveland could be the "Rust Belt Cup". Chicago-KC could be the "Stockyards Cup". Etc, etc.

:rolleyes:

That should probably all be in teal.

spawn
04-27-2010, 08:18 AM
A comment is fine. Acting like it's the stupidest thing the White Sox have ever done is just stupid.
So what? it's one poster's opinion...maybe a couple of poster's opinions. It's their right to express it. I mean, as Boondock said, it is a White Sox message board.

anewman35
04-27-2010, 08:20 AM
So what? it's one poster's opinion...maybe a couple of posters opinion.It's their right to express it.

Yes, and it's my right to express mine, is it not? I am far more in favor of the Crosstown Cup than I am of people who complain about the Crosstown Cup.

spawn
04-27-2010, 08:25 AM
Yes, and it's my right to express mine, is it not? I am far more in favor of the Crosstown Cup than I am of people who complain about the Crosstown Cup.
You're telling people not to. If you want to say you're in favor of it, fine. I haven't said you shouldn't. But I do take issue with you telling people to ignore it if we don't like it. You're in essence telling us not to express our opinion.

doublem23
04-27-2010, 08:30 AM
The Sox/Cubs rivalry is a part of Chicago culture whether WSI likes it or not. I like it.

Yeah, I think this whole BP Cup thing is silly, but the Cubs/Sox games are great. It's always fun getting into it with my Cubbie Blue bleeding brethren. All the better when we win. :cool:

Hitmen77
04-27-2010, 09:44 AM
You're telling people not to. If you want to say you're in favor of it, fine. I haven't said you shouldn't. But I do take issue with you telling people to ignore it if we don't like it. You're in essence telling us not to express our opinion.

:clap:

I can think of plenty of things the Sox have done that are far more annoying and affect us far more often (i.e. renaming the ballpark, the Chevy Pride Crew, renaming seating sections for sponsors, having any thing that could possibly be sponsor have a sponsor).

1. I love the ballpark renovations that were paid for by the naming rights money. Why is this such a bad thing?

2. The Chevy Pride Crew really affects you? :?:

3. The Jim Beam Club and "United" Scout Seats bring in a lot of revenue for a ballclub that has a good track record for putting revenue back into payroll. I have no problem with that.

Shoeless
04-27-2010, 11:05 AM
:clap:



1. I love the ballpark renovations that were paid for by the naming rights money. Why is this such a bad thing?

2. The Chevy Pride Crew really affects you? :?:

3. The Jim Beam Club and "United" Scout Seats bring in a lot of revenue for a ballclub that has a good track record for putting revenue back into payroll. I have no problem with that.

+1 I have trouble complaining about sponsorship when it's the sponsors that keep the lights on.

Harry Potter
04-27-2010, 11:09 AM
I want to see a trophy for all our rivalries. Such as Chicago-Detroit.... The "I-94 Cup". Or Chicago-Minnesota, the "We're Not Wisconsin Cup". Chicago-Cleveland could be the "Rust Belt Cup". Chicago-KC could be the "Stockyards Cup". Etc, etc.

:rolleyes:

That should probably all be in teal.

Don't forget the Chicago-Pittsburgh "We Seem to Play Every Year Cup"

HebrewHammer
04-27-2010, 11:26 AM
The Sox/Cubs rivalry is a part of Chicago culture whether WSI likes it or not. I like it.

I'm quoting this because this is the first time in the history of WSI that Homefish has liked something. Too bad it had to be a lame trophy.

You'd never see the Yankees agree to this. Hell, you'd never see the Angels agree to nonsense like this.

CPditka
04-27-2010, 01:17 PM
game was sold out. and the bears played at NIGHT, so no conflict. in fact, i think being on a bears game day helped it, as as people made a double header out of it. they even went out and bought bears preseason tix.


Sold out and people showing up are 2 different things. I couldnt give those tickets away.

ewokpelts
04-27-2010, 01:21 PM
Sold out and people showing up are 2 different things. I couldnt give those tickets away.i did well. even bought a few day of on stubhub and moved for a decent margin to people i have dealt with in the past. and got family friends great seats.

BradSox77
04-27-2010, 02:25 PM
As much as I like the Crosstown, I've said it once and I'll say it again: Having a trophy for the Crosstown is akin to that scary buffet at the stripclub. Slightly amusing, totally unnecessary, and rife with dangerous bacteria!

#1swisher
04-27-2010, 02:32 PM
I want to see a trophy for all our rivalries. Such as Chicago-Detroit.... The "I-94 Cup". Or Chicago-Minnesota, the "We're Not Wisconsin Cup". Chicago-Cleveland could be the "Rust Belt Cup". Chicago-KC could be the "Stockyards Cup". Etc, etc.

:rolleyes:

That should probably all be in teal.

Teal? send all ideas to Brooks. *no teal*

RedHeadPaleHoser
04-27-2010, 02:38 PM
Just call this the C Cup.

Sponsored by Victoria's Secret.

:duck:

spawn
04-27-2010, 02:53 PM
I'm quoting this because this is the first time in the history of WSI that Homefish has liked something.
Not true. He likes dinosaurs as well. :redneck

BradSox77
04-27-2010, 03:22 PM
But Hitmen and Shoeless make a solid point, sponsorship money helps out our club, period. Now if BP wants to also buy us a big lefty bat...

soxinem1
04-27-2010, 03:44 PM
I'm guessing throw back Uniforms or something for the series.

Or possibly next year they'll play another series with eachother.

No, for the cubs it would be Throw Back Baseballs...

But Hitmen and Shoeless make a solid point, sponsorship money helps out our club, period. Now if BP wants to also buy us a big lefty bat...

I wonder if they would sponsor the player by chance??

Everytime Adrian Gonzalez, I mean, the player would come to bat they would be required to say: 'This veteran slugger aquisition is brought to you by BP, where we fill your tank and your roster.'

WhiteSoxFTW
04-27-2010, 03:47 PM
This Cup seems to be about $$, of course. Both the Sox and the Cubs could be downright ****ty and in 3rd or lower place in their divisions this year (or in the coming years). It seems to me that in this tough economic climate, that any way the teams can build suspense and sell tickets for these games is important. And, they found someone to sponsor it, which equals more $$.

This cup is not about bragging rights or pride or who is the best that year...it's about $$. Plain and simple.

I may thinks its asinine, but I don't blame them for it. :shrug:

BradSox77
04-27-2010, 05:03 PM
No, for the cubs it would be Throw Back Baseballs...



I wonder if they would sponsor the player by chance??

Everytime Adrian Gonzalez, I mean, the player would come to bat they would be required to say: 'This veteran slugger aquisition is brought to you by BP, where we fill your tank and your roster.'

:D: if only, buddy. If only!

FoulTerritory
04-27-2010, 05:53 PM
This Cup seems to be about $$, of course. Both the Sox and the Cubs could be downright ****ty and in 3rd or lower place in their divisions this year (or in the coming years). It seems to me that in this tough economic climate, that any way the teams can build suspense and sell tickets for these games is important. And, they found someone to sponsor it, which equals more $$.

This cup is not about bragging rights or pride or who is the best that year...it's about $$. Plain and simple.

I may thinks its asinine, but I don't blame them for it. :shrug:

I disagree that every marketing decision should be based upon simply "money." There are a lot of crappy ways to make short term financial gains, but that doesn't mean they're all a good idea.

In the case of the "cup," this just seems like a very silly small-town idea and is irritating to the core fanbase (somewhat evidenced by the responses in this thread), and it seems to in some small way to disservice the perception and discredit our franchise, etc. Sometimes marketers need to just take a pass on a money making opportunity and think about the big picture.

Frontman
04-27-2010, 06:06 PM
I disagree that every marketing decision should be based upon simply "money." There are a lot of crappy ways to make short term financial gains, but that doesn't mean they're all a good idea.


This is what I disagree with. It's all about money. Every person who went to work today is going to get paid for the work they did today. Otherwise; its called volunteering.

The Sox; like any other team/business are about bringing in revenue. While I find the whole trophy concept annoying; the Sox and the Cubs have a right to get sponsors and find ways to bring in money.

HangWiffum
04-27-2010, 06:13 PM
this cup idea is absolute crap

ilsox7
04-27-2010, 06:28 PM
I disagree that every marketing decision should be based upon simply "money." There are a lot of crappy ways to make short term financial gains, but that doesn't mean they're all a good idea.

In the case of the "cup," this just seems like a very silly small-town idea and is irritating to the core fanbase (somewhat evidenced by the responses in this thread), and it seems to in some small way to disservice the perception and discredit our franchise, etc. Sometimes marketers need to just take a pass on a money making opportunity and think about the big picture.

Well, this is not the first MLB rivalry to do this and won't be the last.

FoulTerritory
04-27-2010, 06:50 PM
This is what I disagree with. It's all about money. Every person who went to work today is going to get paid for the work they did today. Otherwise; its called volunteering.

The Sox; like any other team/business are about bringing in revenue. While I find the whole trophy concept annoying; the Sox and the Cubs have a right to get sponsors and find ways to bring in money.

My belief is that making money isn't just about finding a short-term niche, but in the long term it is about developing a big-picture perception of your team/franchise, which affects the groundwork for major profit due to the gradual growth of the franchise's value due to its popularity, etc.

Now, to say that this big-picture facet is going to be largely undermined by this Cup thing (or the other thing we disagree about, the organ), is of course not true. These are small things, but small things accumulate into a larger franchise identity. The Sox and their marketing department need to keep the bigger picture of "who we are" and "who we want to be" as a franchise in mind, because it does matter financially, it's just not as easily accessible as seeing an immediate profit for something like this trophy stunt that seems a little embarrassing for a proud big-market franchise with tradition.

SephClone89
04-27-2010, 07:00 PM
They're all gushing about this idea on CTL right now. I want to puke.

anewman35
04-27-2010, 07:52 PM
:clap:



1. I love the ballpark renovations that were paid for by the naming rights money. Why is this such a bad thing?

2. The Chevy Pride Crew really affects you? :?:

3. The Jim Beam Club and "United" Scout Seats bring in a lot of revenue for a ballclub that has a good track record for putting revenue back into payroll. I have no problem with that.

You entirely missed my point (which I'll say might be my fault, I did write my original posts on way too little sleep). All that stuff annoys me on some level, but it makes the team money, so I'm 100% in favor of it. I feel the same way about the Crosstown Cup.

JB98
04-27-2010, 07:59 PM
Why do we need a trophy for beating the Cubs?

A lot of people have beaten the Cubs through the years....

cub killer
04-27-2010, 09:01 PM
There shouldn't be "cups" in baseball (except for testicular protection). Leave that for other sports. What a seriously stupid idea. The tiebreaking idea is just adds to the stupidity. I don't care that it brings in money, there's a level of integrity that has to be maintained here.

I'm sure the people who are for this "cup" would like to see sponsors on our jerseys as well. Or on the bases. Or minor-league type outfield walls. Hell, why don't we put a steer target out there like in Bull Durham? It'll bring $$!!!

I hope Hawk and Stone diss this idea to no end. And if we win this, I hope not a single player acts like he gives a damn.

What's next, we'll play 2 tournaments within the MLB season against minor league teams? Change our name to Chicago BC?

Red Barchetta
04-27-2010, 10:34 PM
I'm already bored with interleague and it's getting to the point where I don't like all the extra hype the city series brings. The games usually bring out the worst of fans from both sides. I would much rather see the SOX play the Yankees, Red Sox or other out of division AL team than the Cubs.

Frontman
04-27-2010, 10:51 PM
My belief is that making money isn't just about finding a short-term niche, but in the long term it is about developing a big-picture perception of your team/franchise, which affects the groundwork for major profit due to the gradual growth of the franchise's value due to its popularity, etc.

Now, to say that this big-picture facet is going to be largely undermined by this Cup thing (or the other thing we disagree about, the organ), is of course not true. These are small things, but small things accumulate into a larger franchise identity. The Sox and their marketing department need to keep the bigger picture of "who we are" and "who we want to be" as a franchise in mind, because it does matter financially, it's just not as easily accessible as seeing an immediate profit for something like this trophy stunt that seems a little embarrassing for a proud big-market franchise with tradition.

Well, at least there is a true interleague rivalry; versus say St. Louis/Kansas City.

But, I agree with you that the Sox should think long term strategies for revenue streams; not just flash-in-the-pan short term strategies. (As I see this trophy concept lasting about 2 or 3 seasons tops before it is forgotten about.)

Railsplitter
04-28-2010, 12:32 PM
Just call this the C Cup.

Sponsored by Victoria's Secret.

:duck:
C cup? Why stop there? :wink:

thomas35forever
05-21-2010, 08:41 PM
Just read on the team website that Ozzie doesn't seem to care about winning this cup. He even joked that he didn't know exactly what it was for. Glad fans aren't the only people caught up in this shenanigan.

roylestillman
05-22-2010, 09:54 AM
Seriously, does anybody else have a problem with trying to win the "BP Cup?" Given their issue in the Gulf, it should be awarded to the team with the leakiest defense.

ws05champs
05-25-2010, 04:46 PM
Seriously, does anybody else have a problem with trying to win the "BP Cup?" Given their issue in the Gulf, it should be awarded to the team with the leakiest defense.
With the order of magnitude of this spill and how high the burden is for people living in the Gulf (and the possible long term issues related to it), the Sox and Cubs should seriously rethink this award. When was the last time anybody thought of something good when they heard the initials "BP?" :angry:

eriqjaffe
05-25-2010, 05:13 PM
With the order of magnitude of this spill and how high the burden is for people living in the Gulf (and the possible long term issues related to it), the Sox and Cubs should seriously rethink this award. When was the last time anybody thought of something good when they heard the initials "BP?" :angry:I just think of Batting Practice. And then I think of how the Sox could use more of it, and then I get :angry:.

DSpivack
05-25-2010, 05:35 PM
With the order of magnitude of this spill and how high the burden is for people living in the Gulf (and the possible long term issues related to it), the Sox and Cubs should seriously rethink this award. When was the last time anybody thought of something good when they heard the initials "BP?" :angry:

I just think of Batting Practice. And then I think of how the Sox could use more of it, and then I get :angry:.

I thought of Baseball Prospectus. But many here don't have anything good to say about them, either. :tongue:

PhillipsBubba
05-25-2010, 09:05 PM
Interleague play has been the greatest innovation in MLB in my lifetime. I love the fan rivalry between the teams and hope it never changes.

I hope I never get so jaded and fail to appreciate the festive atmosphere surrounding these games.

As far as OG and his thoughts about the games; who cares?

He's a clown.

BTW, this is as close as the Sox will get to playoff baseball atmosphere for a long while, so get into it!

LongLiveFisk
05-26-2010, 12:05 AM
I'm already bored with interleague and it's getting to the point where I don't like all the extra hype the city series brings. The games usually bring out the worst of fans from both sides. I would much rather see the SOX play the Yankees, Red Sox or other out of division AL team than the Cubs.

I totally agree with you but it still brings in $$$ so I doubt it's going anywhere anytime soon. I too miss the extra games against those teams.

ewokpelts
05-26-2010, 08:58 AM
Well, at least there is a true interleague rivalry; versus say St. Louis/Kansas City.

But, I agree with you that the Sox should think long term strategies for revenue streams; not just flash-in-the-pan short term strategies. (As I see this trophy concept lasting about 2 or 3 seasons tops before it is forgotten about.)

who played in the 1985 world series? and which teams reside in missouri?

this matchup is more "logical" than phillies/red sox, who play each other 6 times a year.

DumpJerry
06-02-2010, 04:59 PM
Well, due to events in the Gulf of Mexico, BP is scaling back (http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2010/06/bp-scales-back-crosstown-cup-sponsorship-efforts.html) some of the programming for the BP Cup starting next week. Oh darn.

Based on the quotes in the article, it certainly appears that the Cubs were the instigators for this idiotic sponsorship and the Sox were taken along for the ride. This explains why half the Cub roster and front office showed up at the announcement while only Beckham and AJ were there from the Good Guys.

GoGoCrede
06-02-2010, 05:03 PM
Well, due to events in the Gulf of Mexico, BP is scaling back (http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2010/06/bp-scales-back-crosstown-cup-sponsorship-efforts.html) some of the programming for the BP Cup starting next week. Oh darn.

Based on the quotes in the article, it certainly appears that the Cubs were the instigators for this idiotic sponsorship and the Sox were taken along for the ride. This explains why half the Cub roster and front office showed up at the announcement while only Beckham and AJ were there from the Good Guys.

Quality, not quantity. :smile:

What a joke this is.

RockJock07
06-02-2010, 08:19 PM
+1 I have trouble complaining about sponsorship when it's the sponsors that keep the lights on.

Agreed, BP can sink in as much money into the sox as they can into the Gulf of Mexico if it means they Sox can actually play games.

LongLiveFisk
06-02-2010, 08:33 PM
Well, due to events in the Gulf of Mexico, BP is scaling back (http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2010/06/bp-scales-back-crosstown-cup-sponsorship-efforts.html) some of the programming for the BP Cup starting next week. Oh darn.

Based on the quotes in the article, it certainly appears that the Cubs were the instigators for this idiotic sponsorship and the Sox were taken along for the ride. This explains why half the Cub roster and front office showed up at the announcement while only Beckham and AJ were there from the Good Guys.

I can believe this. The Cubs are starved for ANY kind of trophy. The Sox got the WS trophy five years ago; they don't give two ****s about this! :rolleyes:

HomeFish
06-02-2010, 09:08 PM
I would much rather see the SOX play the Yankees, Red Sox or other out of division AL team than the Cubs.

Somebody wants a better draft pick!

GoGoCrede
06-02-2010, 09:27 PM
I'm already bored with interleague and it's getting to the point where I don't like all the extra hype the city series brings. The games usually bring out the worst of fans from both sides. I would much rather see the SOX play the Yankees, Red Sox or other out of division AL team than the Cubs.

Ugh, no thanks. I don't want to sit through a 4 hour game against the Red Sox or Yankees.

cub killer
06-09-2010, 10:10 AM
BTW, this is as close as the Sox will get to playoff baseball atmosphere for a long while, so get into it!
No, we are not flub fans or Johnny-come-lately sports fans. We've already experienced the real deal, why the hell would we fake enthusiasm for contrived nonsense?

It's like a pimple faced teen who gets super excited if he merely scores a date with a cheerleader. We, White Sox fans, are WAY past that. Commisioner's Trophy or bust. bp can shove their mickeymouse tin pot cup up their asses.

SephClone89
06-09-2010, 12:18 PM
No, we are not flub fans or Johnny-come-lately sports fans. We've already experienced the real deal, why the hell would we fake enthusiasm for contrived nonsense?

It's like a pimple faced teen who gets super excited if he merely scores a date with a cheerleader. We, White Sox fans, are WAY past that. Commisioner's Trophy or bust. bp can shove their mickeymouse tin pot cup up their asses.

Hm. I've never understood this attitude.

A division title or pennant would be great right now.

pythons007
06-09-2010, 12:52 PM
Hm. I've never understood this attitude.

A division title or pennant would be great right now.

That's all fine and good, but that's not why they get to the playoffs. We don't root for a team just to win a division or a pennant.

I don't understand the theory well at least we made the playoffs. What's the difference of not making the playoffs and getting eliminated in the first round!?!? Just to say that you won your division, that might not be any good that particular year?

Coops4Aces
06-09-2010, 01:00 PM
That's all fine and good, but that's not why they get to the playoffs. We don't root for a team just to win a division or a pennant.

I don't understand the theory well at least we made the playoffs. What's the difference of not making the playoffs and getting eliminated in the first round!?!? Just to say that you won your division, that might not be any good that particular year?

The problem with World Series or bust is that you set yourself up for extreme disappointment >95% of the time. It's sad though, that we have gone from title winners to wishing for just a competitive team so fast.

doublem23
06-09-2010, 01:09 PM
That's all fine and good, but that's not why they get to the playoffs. We don't root for a team just to win a division or a pennant.

I don't understand the theory well at least we made the playoffs. What's the difference of not making the playoffs and getting eliminated in the first round!?!? Just to say that you won your division, that might not be any good that particular year?

Even with the bastardized, jumbo-size play-offs now, getting to the postseason is still special in baseball. It's not like the NBA or NHL that basically let everyone in, only about 1/4 of all MLB teams even make the postseason, so that's definitely an accomplishment.

JB98
06-09-2010, 01:19 PM
The folks who think the crosstown series produces a "playoff atmosphere" have obviously never attended a playoff game at USCF before.

I have been to a playoff game at USCF, and I didn't see any Cubs fans there. I'm sure there will be annoying Cubs fans at the crosstown games.

The crosstown series is completely insignificant this year --- six games in June between two teams that will finish well up the track.

russ99
06-09-2010, 01:21 PM
That's all fine and good, but that's not why they get to the playoffs. We don't root for a team just to win a division or a pennant.

I don't understand the theory well at least we made the playoffs. What's the difference of not making the playoffs and getting eliminated in the first round!?!? Just to say that you won your division, that might not be any good that particular year?

Have some perspective. I've been a Sox fan since 1970. In those 40 years we've made the playoffs 5 times and won a playoff series in only one of those years, in 2005.

Just because we won a World Series doesn't mean squat, other than that one specific title. Just because we won once, doesn't mean we should expect anything different. That's a douchebag Red Sox fan attitude, and not that much different from those Cubs fans we can't stand with the delusion that "It's gonna happen".

Making the postseason is cause for jubiliation. Winning the Series is certainly the goal, but having a playoff team is certainly an accomplishment, especially for this franchise.

Craig Grebeck
06-09-2010, 01:27 PM
Have some perspective. I've been a Sox fan since 1970. In those 40 years we've made the playoffs 5 times and won a playoff series in only one of those years, in 2005.

Just because we won a World Series doesn't mean squat, other than that one specific title. Just because we won once, doesn't mean we should expect anything different. That's a douchebag Red Sox fan attitude, and not that much different from those Cubs fans we can't stand with the delusion that "It's gonna happen".

Making the postseason is cause for jubiliation. Winning the Series is certainly the goal, but having a playoff team is certainly an accomplishment, especially for this franchise.
Ah, a culture of low expectations -- that explains the sig.

Listen, I don't give a **** if the Sox sucked for the majority of your life. I don't want to go through a similar forty-year streak of futility as a fan.

all*star quentin
06-09-2010, 01:45 PM
Ah, a culture of low expectations -- that explains the sig.

Listen, I don't give a **** if the Sox sucked for the majority of your life. I don't want to go through a similar forty-year streak of futility as a fan.


This.
Once you taste winning you want more. Call me greedy.

all*star quentin
06-09-2010, 01:50 PM
No, we are not flub fans or Johnny-come-lately sports fans. We've already experienced the real deal, why the hell would we fake enthusiasm for contrived nonsense?

It's like a pimple faced teen who gets super excited if he merely scores a date with a cheerleader. We, White Sox fans, are WAY past that. Commisioner's Trophy or bust. bp can shove their mickeymouse tin pot cup up their asses.

Please do not speak for me, I've been attending the Sox/Cubs games before it was called the crosstown. So what if they have a cup now, I love it.

GO SOX!