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Sockinchisox
04-20-2010, 10:32 PM
Sox win! Discuss it here!

soxinem1
04-20-2010, 10:32 PM
Was Danks dealing or what?:bandance::bandance:

Dear Ozzie:

Put Andruw Jones in the lineup....................

AND LEAVE HIM THERE!!!

october23sp
04-20-2010, 10:32 PM
:smokin:Discuss...

GoGoCrede
04-20-2010, 10:33 PM
Mr Jones did well too!

BcIjxlLfcM4

Me annnnnnd Mr., Mr. Jones!

DirtySox
04-20-2010, 10:33 PM
I choose this thread title.

Moar plz.

Nelfox02
04-20-2010, 10:33 PM
feels good to see a solid win


keep in going guys

johnnyg83
04-20-2010, 10:34 PM
it's as fun as i remember!

Frater Perdurabo
04-20-2010, 10:34 PM
Nice crisp game. I would have liked the Sox to capitalize on a few more scoring opportunities, but I'll never argue with a win in which our starter throws eight innings of one-run ball, and our closer locks down the save.

konerko 14
04-20-2010, 10:34 PM
I'm very happy with this game:

1. Danks was great
2. Konerko and Jones look great at the plate
3. Sox won!

WhiteSox1989
04-20-2010, 10:34 PM
Good game. Want more like this.

october23sp
04-20-2010, 10:34 PM
Damn, I was so proud of my thread title.

manders_01
04-20-2010, 10:34 PM
That was nice! Good job boys!!! :bandance:

thomas35forever
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
Hey, Rays. That's what happens when one guy accounts for 100 percent of your offense. Also, it didn't help that Danks was just filthy.:tongue:

twinsuck
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
Johnny Danks stopper!!!!!! :D:

ChiSoxGirl
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
Holy hell, I almost forgot what winning feels like! :o: The Sox looked good out there tonight against a very good place team in all aspects of the game. Keep it rolling tomorrow, guys!

cheezheadsoxfan
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
That was much better. :bandance:
Hopefully, a game like this will help right the ship.

voodoochile
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
Can't really argue with the outcome. Nice to see the Sox rebound well against a quality opponent.

Danks is becoming a serious stud.

:soxwin:

:)

:supernana:

OmahaSoxFan
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
A much, much, much needed win for the Sox....

DanKKKKKKKKKs is the man!

Once again the Sox do well against one of the league's best teams, while stinking it up against the bottom feeders like the Toons.

Marqhead
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
Everything went well. Danks looks amazing so far if this is the year he takes it to the next level look out AL.

Bobby with a quick save and some timely hitting and aggressive base running by the offense.

Let's take the next two! :bandance:

HangWiffum
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
good win. but pierre needs to do something for this tema besides ground out.

october23sp
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
Hey, Rays. That's what happens when one guy accounts for 100 percent of your offense. Also, it didn't help that Danks was just filthy.:tongue:

They'll take it over 0 guys accounting for 100% of their offense. See July 23rd 2009.

soxinem1
04-20-2010, 10:36 PM
Damn, I was so proud of my thread title.

I was proud of mine too!!!:bandance::bandance:

Oh well, we are all team players here....:smile:

GoGoCrede
04-20-2010, 10:36 PM
I love you, Johnny Danks. I'm glad he's on our team!

Tonight reminded me of a 163rd game, many moons ago...

twinsuck
04-20-2010, 10:36 PM
Damn, I was so proud of my thread title.
I liked yours the best.... :tongue:

ShoelessJoeS
04-20-2010, 10:36 PM
All around solid game, and a much-needed win.

Danks has been dealing this year!

Rohan
04-20-2010, 10:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM7C_yNlCLU

october23sp
04-20-2010, 10:37 PM
t66uuDdpwaU

BNLSox
04-20-2010, 10:37 PM
:bandance:

Good to beat a strong team to get our confidence back. Let's keep this lineup Oz, just shuffle 'em a bit.

Frater Perdurabo
04-20-2010, 10:37 PM
Jones needs to remain in the order as a starter. He and Rios need to be moved up in the order. Beckham and Quentin need to move down. Paulie is OK at cleanup; I'd just like more guys on base for him.

tstrike2000
04-20-2010, 10:38 PM
As of now, I apparently picked the wrong game to watch tonight.

GoGoCrede
04-20-2010, 10:38 PM
I posted this in the gamethread, but it's worth repeating: Danks has given up four hits in his last 15 innings.

ohthosechisox
04-20-2010, 10:39 PM
John Danks continues to be outstanding in his career vs the Rays. :D:

sullythered
04-20-2010, 10:39 PM
Danks' stat line through 3 games this year is just stupid-awesome.

SoxGirl4Life
04-20-2010, 10:40 PM
Win. Not too much heartburn from Bobby... I'll take it

SOXfnNlansing
04-20-2010, 10:40 PM
who would have thought the Sox would have been the game to watch tonight:scratch:

ShoelessJoeS
04-20-2010, 10:40 PM
I posted this in the gamethread, but it's worth repeating: Danks has given up four hits in his last 15 innings.:o::D:

october23sp
04-20-2010, 10:40 PM
Let's get about 4 more in a row, push reset, then start again.

HangWiffum
04-20-2010, 10:41 PM
As of now, I apparently picked the wrong game to watch tonight.

the "cub-ification" of the hawks is almost complete with the playoff choke.

sox1970
04-20-2010, 10:41 PM
Danks...aka Lone Representative? :redneck

Very good game. Do it again tomorrow.

soxinem1
04-20-2010, 10:42 PM
Win. Not too much heartburn from Bobby... I'll take it

Jenks has been challenging hitters more in his past few appearances than he has in a LONG, LONG time.

He's throwing harder and that change has become quite the equalizer.

DaveFeelsRight
04-20-2010, 10:43 PM
the season is over!

october23sp
04-20-2010, 10:43 PM
By the way, the Paper bag in my signature stays, we are 1-0 with it.:D:

october23sp
04-20-2010, 10:44 PM
the season is over!

I don't like the people that are so negative after a loss, but to make fun of them because we are 5-9 is a bit much.

sox1970
04-20-2010, 10:45 PM
the season is over!

What? Like they were never going to win a game again? They won the first game of last week too, and we all know how great that turned out. Let's see where they are in a week or two.

Rdy2PlayBall
04-20-2010, 10:46 PM
What? Like they were never going to win a game again? They won the first game of last week too, and we all know how great that turned out. Let's see where they are in a week or two.Lets see where they are tomorrow. We need to win 2 in a row against the same team some time this season.

twinsuck
04-20-2010, 10:47 PM
What? Like they were never going to win a game again? They won the first game of last week too, and we all know how great that turned out. Let's see where they are in a week or two.
I think he was being sarcastic...

october23sp
04-20-2010, 10:48 PM
I think he was being sarcastic...

In what way, haha, is double teal implied?

GoGoCrede
04-20-2010, 10:48 PM
My kingdom for two wins in a row...it would be an embarrassment of riches, wouldn't it? :D:

SOXfnNlansing
04-20-2010, 10:49 PM
if the Sox win 5 of 6 this homestand, that is a statement.

Shoeless_Jeff
04-20-2010, 10:50 PM
Johnny ****ing Danks!!!!!!

veeter
04-20-2010, 11:00 PM
No reason they can't win a bunch like this. Great pitching and enough offense. Bobby was dealing too. Great win!!!

palehozenychicty
04-20-2010, 11:00 PM
Danks has definitely been on it so far this season. The benefit of having a balanced pitching staff.

Frankfan4life
04-20-2010, 11:01 PM
Great game. Danks was on fire!! I hope we get more pitching performances like that from the rest of the starters.

Tragg
04-20-2010, 11:05 PM
Danks can pitch.

Team really needed a win...glad we got one.
Now we need to get some runners on in front of the home runs.

Frankfan4life
04-20-2010, 11:07 PM
Win. Not too much heartburn from Bobby... I'll take itYeah, Bobby didn't do too bad. All I had was some mild angina. :redneck I think Paulie's homer took some pressure off.

Brian26
04-20-2010, 11:13 PM
Yeah, Bobby didn't do too bad.

I didn't particularly like seeing him go to a full count with Bartlett to start the inning, but, yeah, he did well tonight. There's nothing he could have done to stop the Crawford hit.

WhiteSox5187
04-20-2010, 11:17 PM
Jenks has been challenging hitters more in his past few appearances than he has in a LONG, LONG time.

He's throwing harder and that change has become quite the equalizer.

I think pitching from the windup has added some velocity to his fastball. He has always claimed he can crank it up anytime he wanted to (and I believe that as in that final week of 2008 he was hitting 95+ consistently), but now he might be able to hit 95 with out putting so much strain on his elbow.

While tonight was a good win, we had runners on second and third with one out and couldn't bring anyone in. That is a trend that continues.

Also, Jones should be in the lineup every day and I think Rios should maybe bat third.

guillensdisciple
04-20-2010, 11:21 PM
No more Kotsay.

Thank you.

TheCommander
04-20-2010, 11:23 PM
the "cub-ification" of the hawks is almost complete with the playoff choke.

:rolleyes:

Frankfan4life
04-20-2010, 11:24 PM
I didn't particularly like seeing him go to a full count with Bartlett to start the inning, but, yeah, he did well tonight. There's nothing he could have done to stop the Crawford hit.The Rays are a very good team so chances are they're not going to go down easy.

guillensdisciple
04-20-2010, 11:24 PM
And as for Bobby complaints, I don't think they are warranted. He looks great from the wind up.

Dibbs
04-20-2010, 11:29 PM
Well my record is 2-0 on the year. Hopefully some more free tickets keep coming my way. Can't wait to see Ozzie bring back Ozzie-ball tomorrow with Kotsay in the lineup. It's a sick joke because we know it's true.

soxlady8
04-20-2010, 11:31 PM
awesome game !!
Danksy was on FIRE !!
Jones and Konerko hit some bombs !!
The triple (almost inside the park homer ) by Rios was fierce !!

and Mark Teahen signed the Soxlady's hat right before the game began !!

I almost forgot what winning felt like -----

SoxGirl4Life
04-20-2010, 11:33 PM
This was the Rays' first road loss... wow

GoGoCrede
04-20-2010, 11:35 PM
This was the Rays' first road loss... wow

They look damn good this year. Too bad they're about to be swept. :cool:

JB98
04-20-2010, 11:36 PM
Can Danks pitch every day?

Nice to finally get a win.

Soxgirl22
04-20-2010, 11:37 PM
I'd like to point out that this was yet another game I was absent for... and they won. However every game last weekend and week that I was watching the whole time... they did not.

Sigh.

Anyway, good to see them with the win! Let's keep it going!

jabrch
04-20-2010, 11:42 PM
Another great evening at the ballpark...I am so glad baseball season is back.

GoGoCrede
04-20-2010, 11:42 PM
Another great evening at the ballpark...I am so glad baseball season is back.

I am green with envy, and I dearly hope tomorrow night will be as good as tonight, since I'll be there. :praying:

JermaineDye05
04-20-2010, 11:43 PM
Can Danks pitch every day?

Nice to finally get a win.

Not gonna help much unless he has natural good juju this year for the offense.

Love the win, but the offense needs to pick it up big time. Especially AJ and Beckham. AJ moreso because I can understand the struggles for Beckham, this being his second year.

sox1970
04-20-2010, 11:44 PM
I'd like to see Beckham and Quentin dropped down for a while.

Go with Pierre, Pierzynski, Rios, Konerko, Jones, Quentin, Beckham, Teahen, Ramirez

Craig Grebeck
04-20-2010, 11:45 PM
I'd like to see Beckham and Quentin dropped down for a while.

Go with Pierre, Pierzynski, Rios, Konerko, Jones, Quentin, Beckham, Teahen, Ramirez
Punishing Quentin and Beckham while keeping Pierre at the top if hi-****ing-larious.

JermaineDye05
04-20-2010, 11:46 PM
The home whites get us a win. I'd like to see Buehrle keep it going but methinks he'll stick with the alternate.

sox1970
04-20-2010, 11:46 PM
Punishing Quentin and Beckham while keeping Pierre at the top if hi-****ing-larious.

Well, what can you do there? Pierre is pretty much locked into lead off this year. That's not really up for debate.

Craig Grebeck
04-20-2010, 11:46 PM
Well, what can you do there? Pierre is pretty much locked into lead off this year. That's not really up for debate.
What can you do there? You move the offensive black hole out of the leadoff spot. Why can't that be up for debate?

sox1970
04-20-2010, 11:50 PM
What can you do there? You move the offensive black hole out of the leadoff spot. Why can't that be up for debate?

Who's leading off then? Rios?

JermaineDye05
04-20-2010, 11:51 PM
Who's leading off then? Rios?

I say move Rios to the 3 hole IMHO.

WhiteSox5187
04-20-2010, 11:58 PM
What can you do there? You move the offensive black hole out of the leadoff spot. Why can't that be up for debate?

Who would you have lead off then? I know that Pierre really sucks, but at least he's not stranding anyone in scoring positions when he leads off. Best case scenario, he gets on. Worst case scenario, he strikes out. Likely scenario: he sees a couple of pitches and then grounds out weakly to the left side of the infield.

LoveYourSuit
04-20-2010, 11:58 PM
Just got back home from the the game. Danks was dominant against a very good offense. He pitches very well vs TB.

A Jones needs to start every night. I hope Ozzie gives up this DH platoon nonesense. That or tell Kotsay the Bus leaves 2 PM when in fact it left at 1.

WhiteSox5187
04-20-2010, 11:59 PM
I say move Rios to the 3 hole IMHO.

I like that idea.

LoveYourSuit
04-21-2010, 12:03 AM
Who's leading off then? Rios?


Mark Teahen is our best OBP% right now. I do remember him leading off for some bad KC teams.

But we badly need baserunners at the top.

WhiteSox5187
04-21-2010, 12:17 AM
Mark Teahen is our best OBP% right now. I do remember him leading off for some bad KC teams.

But we badly need baserunners at the top.

That sounds to me an awful lot like having Swisher at the top and that was a disaster. I don't know if Teahan has the speed or the threat of the stolen base to change the way a pitcher attacks the following hitters (though he does have a lot more SBs than Swisher ever did).

JB98
04-21-2010, 12:20 AM
That sounds to me an awful lot like having Swisher at the top and that was a disaster. I don't know if Teahan has the speed or the threat of the stolen base to change the way a pitcher attacks the following hitters (though he does have a lot more SBs than Swisher ever did).

No, he doesn't. I think Teahen runs the bases well, but he's not feared as a basestealer. In fact, his career high for steals is only 13.

UChicagoHP
04-21-2010, 12:24 AM
Jones is absolutely back...he is seeing the ball again AND his bat-speed is at or close to prime level. This is a HUGE bonus, as he will hit 30 homers and drive in close to a 100 runs if he can keep it up. As long as Quentin and the rest of the boys hit AT THE VERY LEAST decently, there is no reason this team should fail to contend for 95 wins and the division given the pitching. Although I've never been a huge fan of Floyd, and Peavy's loss of velocity has tempered my expectations of the staff a bit, it should still be damn good.

Unless this team is simply SNAKEBITTEN or unlucky, for lack of a better word, we should all sit back and enjoy a winning team, well...win!:gulp:

Teahen has performed very well, love the OBP, but a leadoff hitter he isn't, but at this point in time, neither is Juan "I make WAY too many outs" Pierre.

-Jones is playing like the all-star/future hall of famer he used to be..
-Konerko should contribute his usual dance with .270 and 30 homers...but there is an outside change Paulie is done as a regular given his age, power will always be there, but .214 'aint going to cut. Adrian Gonzales time? A man can dream...
-Beckham will probably struggle till he learns to lay off that outside slider, as the book is out on him and he needs to adjust or it could get ugly soon...maybe ugly enough for a demotion, but I think he will adjust, kid seems special, lets hope that is the case!
- Rios is, well, the Rios the BlueJays gave ten million per too

And somehow, this team has under-performed, typical Sox! Nevertheless, things even out in baseball, and the Sox are due to rip off 20 wins over 30 games, imo...

WhiteSox5187
04-21-2010, 12:24 AM
No, he doesn't. I think Teahen runs the bases well, but he's not feared as a basestealer. In fact, his career high for steals is only 13.

I know, but he's better than Nick Swisher at the leadoff spot. The thing is even a slow baserunner if on can potentially change the way a pitcher pitches (at the very least he has to throw from the stretch), but a fast baserunner can REALLY alter the way a pitcher pitches (the number of fastballs Iguchi got in 2005 was amazing and that was just cuz of the threat of the stolen base). I'm not sure what to do about Pierre. You might just have to have him hit is way out of it...

JB98
04-21-2010, 12:31 AM
I know, but he's better than Nick Swisher at the leadoff spot. The thing is even a slow baserunner if on can potentially change the way a pitcher pitches (at the very least he has to throw from the stretch), but a fast baserunner can REALLY alter the way a pitcher pitches (the number of fastballs Iguchi got in 2005 was amazing and that was just cuz of the threat of the stolen base). I'm not sure what to do about Pierre. You might just have to have him hit is way out of it...

I'm sure that's what they'll do, for better or for worse.

Right now, I'm just hoping that Ozzie realizes the nine men who played tonight are the nine who belong in there on an everyday basis. I'd just like to see a more set batting order, no matter what it is.

BradSox77
04-21-2010, 12:33 AM
Jones is absolutely back...he is seeing the ball again AND his bat-speed is at or close to prime level. This is a HUGE bonus, as he will hit 30 homers and drive in close to a 100 runs if he can keep it up. As long as Quentin and the rest of the boys hit AT THE VERY LEAST decently, there is no reason this team should fail to contend for 95 wins and the division given the pitching. Although I've never been a huge fan of Floyd, and Peavy's loss of velocity has tempered my expectations of the staff a bit, it should still be damn good.

Unless this team is simply SNAKEBITTEN or unlucky, for lack of a better word, we should all sit back and enjoy a winning team, well...win!:gulp:

Teahen has performed very well, love the OBP, but he 'aint a leadoff hitter he isn't, but at this point in time, neither is Juan "I make WAY too many outs" Pierre.

-Jones is playing like the all-star/future hall of famer he used to be..
-Konerko is should contribute his usual dance with .270 and 30 homers...but there is an outside change Paulie is done as a regular given his age, power will always be there, but .214 'aint going to cut. Adrian Gonzales time? A man can dream...
-Beckham will probably struggle till he learns to lay off that outside slider, as the book is out on him and he needs to adjust or it could get ugly soon...maybe ugly enough for a demotion, but I think he will adjust, kid seems special, lets hope that is the case!
- Rios is, well, the Rios the BlueJays gave ten million per too

And somehow, this team has under-performed, typical Sox! Nevertheless, things even out in baseball, and the Sox are due to rip off 20 wins over 30 games, imo...

Agreed on many points, especially Jones and Beckham's play at the plate. Rios has shown me alot to be excited about in this young season. Let's hope yr right as to those 20 of 30 wins, and it's starts now, the Twins aren't showing signs of slowing down just yet(their pitching will falter)

tick53
04-21-2010, 12:36 AM
:soxwin:

Nice Game Johnny, Paulie, Andruw and Bobby !!!!!!!!!

Hegewisch
04-21-2010, 12:37 AM
Holy hell, I almost forgot what winning feels like! :o: The Sox looked good out there tonight against a very good place team in all aspects of the game. Keep it rolling tomorrow, guys!

I agree. I was there. It was a GREAT game !!!!!!!! Especially, in the 1st inning the Sox immediately answered the Devil Rays Home Run.:bandance:

Tailgate was fun also !!!:gulp:

It was my birthday. So, Thanks Sox !!!!!!!!!!:D:

Hegewisch
04-21-2010, 12:45 AM
I'd like to point out that this was yet another game I was absent for... and they won. However every game last weekend and week that I was watching the whole time... they did not.

Sigh.



Perhaps, we should pay you not to watch or, attend !!!:D:


(Just Joking !!!):rolleyes:

Dibbs
04-21-2010, 12:47 AM
Right now, I'm just hoping that Ozzie realizes the nine men who played tonight are the nine who belong in there on an everyday basis. I'd just like to see a more set batting order, no matter what it is.

Exactly. I knew it before the season these were the nine guys to go with. I am not confident Ozzie has figured that out even yet. As long as these are the nine guys, I can live with the lineup as is.

I also agree Pierre stinks, but at least he hit the ball hard once tonight! I would like to find a way to move Rios up a little bit. Pierre should probably be batting 9th. Not sure who I'd lead off.

Lip Man 1
04-21-2010, 12:54 AM
Jones is making Kenny look very good. Nice win.

Lip

slavko
04-21-2010, 01:28 AM
Jones is making Kenny look very good. Nice win.

Lip

Adjusted really well to an 0-2 pitch in a tough place that he hit out. Pierre had a season start like this on the North side and wound up the season at .292. OBP? Don't ask.

WhiteSox5187
04-21-2010, 01:32 AM
Adjusted really well to an 0-2 pitch in a tough place that he hit out. Pierre had a season start like this on the North side and wound up the season at .292. OBP? Don't ask.

I would hope Pierre has a better season now than he had in '06. He got 200 hits and hit above .290 in '06 but he got really hot when the Cubs were way way out of it. Pierre's poor OBP is the reason I don't fancy him as a leadoff guy, but, oh well. We won the division with a leadoff hitter who had a .334 OBP in 2008 (and from the leadoff spot I think his OBP was even worse!) and only 18 SBs. Pierre can probably do that and have more steals.

doublem23
04-21-2010, 01:42 AM
DANKS IS A MAN

That is all. Great game.

Noneck
04-21-2010, 02:24 AM
Nice way to begin a homestand and to win their 1st series of the year.

TDog
04-21-2010, 02:41 AM
I would hope Pierre has a better season now than he had in '06. He got 200 hits and hit above .290 in '06 but he got really hot when the Cubs were way way out of it. Pierre's poor OBP is the reason I don't fancy him as a leadoff guy, but, oh well. We won the division with a leadoff hitter who had a .334 OBP in 2008 (and from the leadoff spot I think his OBP was even worse!) and only 18 SBs. Pierre can probably do that and have more steals.


I don't believe Pierre did well though because the Cubs were out of it, as many Cubs fans seem to believe.

Slavko's point is well taken, and I've thought about this issue, really, since before the season began. Cubs fans turned on Pierre early on in an unsuccessful season. I've seen White Sox fans doing something similar already this season.

The White Sox are built around their starting pitching, which, for the most part, has been disappointing. The offense will improve when Pierre starts hitting, and I see no reason to believe he won't start hitting. He will not only get on base at the top of the order, but he will drive in runners from the bottome of the order.

Tonight the White Sox had plenty of offense, of course. Konerko drove in a run in the first despite the 1 and 2 hitters continuing not to get on base. Once again, they couldn't get a runner from third home after getting him there with one out, but fortunately tonight it wasn't an issue. (The Giants did that twice tonight, once in the ninth inning when Juan Uribe failed to get the run home in their 1-0 loss in which the Padres got just one hit, a single. I thought I was watching the White Sox.)

This is the sort of pitching Sox fans have expected all season, but since opening day, they have only seen it with Danks starting. In too many games this year, tonight's offense wouldn't have been enough to win, and people would be blaming the lack of offense for the loss.

hawkjt
04-21-2010, 03:38 AM
Nice win...great job by Johnny Danks.
As for Juan...I think he will come around. He is not getting any balls thru the infield...bad luck,really. Gordo will also figure it out. Carlos is in a funk and I would drop him to 6th if he does not break out by the end of this homestand. AJ got a hit! Yea!
I can see moving Rios up to third next week if Carlos is still in the funk.
Not sure I want to see Jones in there vs righties regularly,but willing to give it a try the rest of the week. Kotsay has to sit a bit more,til his bat heats up.

Nice effort guys...now,go do it again tomorrow.:D:

Danielgosox38
04-21-2010, 03:40 AM
What can be said? Fantastic win. I'm hopping on the Andruw Jones comeback tour bus. There's room for many more.

kufram
04-21-2010, 03:46 AM
Well, I regret that we don't have Pods to plug in at leadoff, but we don't. Pierre is a proven leadoff hitter albeit in the NL. GOT to stick with him now. That die is cast. Keep cheering for him.

guillensdisciple
04-21-2010, 03:58 AM
This hitting will pick up. The team believes it, and I believe it too. It's one of those things where they should be hitting well, and they are not. Everything will even itself out.

Minnesota better hope they have a nice cushion, because we're going to bring it to them.

JermaineDye05
04-21-2010, 04:23 AM
This hitting will pick up. The team believes it, and I believe it too. It's one of those things where they should be hitting well, and they are not. Everything will even itself out.

Minnesota better hope they have a nice cushion, because we're going to bring it to them.

What concerns me is that a lot of people said this in 2007 when Thome/Konerko/Dye were all doing terrible. Now, I'm not saying this will be another 2007, I'm just saying that I'm seeing familiar warning signs. Hopefully they can turn it around and this will be a happy memory.

Craig Grebeck
04-21-2010, 08:07 AM
If the White Sox would have lost 4-3, the offense absolutely would have been to blame.

spawn
04-21-2010, 08:13 AM
If the White Sox would have lost 4-3, the offense absolutely would have been to blame.
But they didn't lose, so...

jabrch
04-21-2010, 08:17 AM
But they didn't lose, so...

...so piss and moan about what could have been!

ChiTownTrojan
04-21-2010, 08:33 AM
If the White Sox would have lost 4-3, the offense absolutely would have been to blame.

If the White Sox would have lost 14-11, the pitching absolutely would have been to blame. Maybe the defense too, but I didn't check the box score of this hypothetical game to see how many hypothetical errors they committed.

Tragg
04-21-2010, 08:34 AM
What concerns me is that a lot of people said this in 2007 when Thome/Konerko/Dye were all doing terrible. Now, I'm not saying this will be another 2007, I'm just saying that I'm seeing familiar warning signs. Hopefully they can turn it around and this will be a happy memory.

There were other causes that exacerbated the effect of the slow starts in 2007: bad bullpen, guillen misusing the talent, over reliance on "moving those runners up" and under appreciation of getting runners on base to begin with. Some of these other causes are being repeated.

Craig Grebeck
04-21-2010, 08:35 AM
But they didn't lose, so...
And I was just responding to TDog's usual ranting that it's always the pitching's fault.

Madscout
04-21-2010, 09:16 AM
Nice win...great job by Johnny Danks.
As for Juan...I think he will come around. He is not getting any balls thru the infield...bad luck,really. Gordo will also figure it out. Carlos is in a funk and I would drop him to 6th if he does not break out by the end of this homestand. AJ got a hit! Yea!
I can see moving Rios up to third next week if Carlos is still in the funk.
Not sure I want to see Jones in there vs righties regularly,but willing to give it a try the rest of the week. Kotsay has to sit a bit more,til his bat heats up.

Nice effort guys...now,go do it again tomorrow.:D:
Carlos is in a funk because he isn't taking pitches the otherway. All guys are trying to do to our power hitters is throw them off speed breaking stuff away, and our guys just try and pull it. They end up rolling over it and hitting weak ground balls to second base, thus all the 4-6-3 double plays.

Look at Paulie's first AB last night. He made an adjustment, and drove a ball to the RF wall. TCQ hasn't made that adjustment yet (nor has TCM).

Madscout
04-21-2010, 09:18 AM
This hitting will pick up. The team believes it, and I believe it too. It's one of those things where they should be hitting well, and they are not. Everything will even itself out.

Minnesota better hope they have a nice cushion, because we're going to bring it to them.
Minnesota will come back to earth when Jon Rauch starts pitching like Jon Rauch again. That should happen pretty soon.

Marqhead
04-21-2010, 09:21 AM
Minnesota will come back to earth when Jon Rauch starts pitching like Jon Rauch again. That should happen pretty soon.

Jon Rauch pitches 1 innning every few games, he's not the key to their success. The rotation is, and right now they are pitching very well.

Craig Grebeck
04-21-2010, 09:38 AM
Why are we assuming Rauch can't be an adequate reliever?

GoSox2K3
04-21-2010, 09:44 AM
No reason they can't win a bunch like this. Great pitching and enough offense. Bobby was dealing too. Great win!!!

The problem is that our offense was still HR or nothing tonight. We can't get a bunch of wins in a row unless the black holes in our lineup start hitting. We need more than 2 guys to carry our offense otherwise this will be just one of those 60 that every team wins.... and I still don't think Ozzie is going to play Jones every day.

Danks has been awesome, but Floyd has struggled and the others haven't pitched good enough to win often enough with a weak offense.

GoSox2K3
04-21-2010, 09:48 AM
Punishing Quentin and Beckham while keeping Pierre at the top if hi-****ing-larious.

Well, what can you do there? Pierre is pretty much locked into lead off this year. That's not really up for debate.

What can you do there? You move the offensive black hole out of the leadoff spot. Why can't that be up for debate?

It should be up for debate, but Ozzie won't do that. Pierre is his leadoff guy and he can go on sucking for weeks before Ozzie moves him.

Madscout
04-21-2010, 09:54 AM
Jon Rauch pitches 1 innning every few games, he's not the key to their success. The rotation is, and right now they are pitching very well.
If Jon Rauch fails as their current closer, suddenly that bullpen doesn't look so good. I don't see their rotation lighting the world on fire for the rest of the year. If that's the case, at some point they have to get the ball down to a bullpen, that doesn't look so good anymore. Thus, Rauch is the cog that holds that together right now.

Madscout
04-21-2010, 09:55 AM
Why are we assuming Rauch can't be an adequate reliever?
I'm not. I'm assuming that he can't close for a season in the big leagues.

Craig Grebeck
04-21-2010, 10:11 AM
Eh, I think it's 50/50 whether or not he can. He certainly won't doom them -- they're too good to be undone by a good but not great closer.

John Danks has been unreal.

WhiteSoxFTW
04-21-2010, 10:17 AM
John Danks is a beast. That is all. :D:

guillensdisciple
04-21-2010, 10:21 AM
Eh, I think it's 50/50 whether or not he can. He certainly won't doom them -- they're too good to be undone by a good but not great closer.

John Danks has been unreal.

I don't think this is a correct assumption. Anyone can be easily undone by a lacking closer. Especially in tight races. While it won't show over time, if he fails continuously, the lead will dwindle a lot faster than it should.

kobo
04-21-2010, 10:27 AM
It should be up for debate, but Ozzie won't do that. Pierre is his leadoff guy and he can go on sucking for weeks before Ozzie moves him.
Pierre is a notoriously slow starter. I expected this, and have faith that he'll pick things up within a couple weeks.

Craig Grebeck
04-21-2010, 10:27 AM
I don't think this is a correct assumption. Anyone can be easily undone by a lacking closer. Especially in tight races. While it won't show over time, if he fails continuously, the lead will dwindle a lot faster than it should.
Well, I said good but not great. I think he'll be good, not the best, but good enough. Can we catch them? Of course. If Jones keeps it up, I'll be confident about our chances.

Edit: and by keep it up, I mean maintain a line of .250/.350/.500 which is quite reasonable.

FielderJones
04-21-2010, 12:04 PM
John Danks is a beast. That is all. :D:

I guess the Rays just have to tip their hats.