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ewokpelts
03-18-2010, 01:03 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2010/03/cubs-want-huge-illuminated-billboard-at-wrigley-field.html

Gotta Love tradition.....

I wonder why they want this so badly?

http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/LF-Sign.jpg

tstrike2000
03-18-2010, 01:15 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2010/03/cubs-want-huge-illuminated-billboard-at-wrigley-field.html

Gotta Love tradition.....

I wonder why they want this so badly?

http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/LF-Sign.jpg

Because they think that will make their offense automatically put the pedal to the metal?

DaveIsHere
03-18-2010, 01:25 PM
HHmmmmm two 'companies' that have had the wool pulled over the eyes of their respective customer bases.........Perfect fit.

TheOldRoman
03-18-2010, 01:29 PM
Because they think that will make their offense automatically put the pedal to the metal?
Winner.

They are doing this because they had another spat with the rooftop people. I believe they wanted a cut of the revenue from the Budweiser rooftop (now Horse Shoe Casino). The owner wouldn't give in, so they will almost cover it up from inside the park.

Oh, and what classless, obsessive douchebags the Cubs are. The Cubs Sales chief said a giant ****ing neon sign was designed to "fit with the aesthetic feel of the ballpark". There isn't even a ****ing video screen, and a 40 foot tall neon sign is going to uphold its integrity?! And of course, he had to take a shot at the Sox by saying something along the lines of "at least it isn't a big black billboard like in other parks.:rolleyes:

VenturaFan23
03-18-2010, 01:35 PM
http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/randal-graves-42059.jpg
"I'm not even going to point out the irony here."

ewokpelts
03-18-2010, 01:47 PM
Winner.

They are doing this because they had another spat with the rooftop people. I believe they wanted a cut of the revenue from the Budweiser rooftop (now Horse Shoe Casino). The owner wouldn't give in, so they will almost cover it up from inside the park.

Oh, and what classless, obsessive douchebags the Cubs are. The Cubs Sales chief said a giant ****ing neon sign was designed to "fit with the aesthetic feel of the ballpark". There isn't even a ****ing video screen, and a 40 foot tall neon sign is going to uphold its integrity?! And of course, he had to take a shot at the Sox by saying something along the lines of "at least it isn't a big black billboard like in other parks.:rolleyes:actually, you're half right. the cubs do not have an agreement with the "horseshoe" rooftop, but didnt need one before as the previous owner had an advertising deal with busch(who are a partner of the cubs). the new rooftop owner angered A/B and the cubs by trying to invalidate the advertising deal. so the cubs are playing hardball on behalf of thier promotional partner(A/B)

Rocky Soprano
03-18-2010, 02:02 PM
Watch out, no one will be able to stop the Cubs now!

g0g0
03-18-2010, 02:13 PM
Who cares? Everyone is drunk there anyways... :wink:

Luke
03-18-2010, 02:20 PM
Advertising!? At a baseball field!? Next thing you know they'll have parking for horseless carriages.

samurai_sox
03-18-2010, 02:24 PM
Winner.

They are doing this because they had another spat with the rooftop people. I believe they wanted a cut of the revenue from the Budweiser rooftop (now Horse Shoe Casino). The owner wouldn't give in, so they will almost cover it up from inside the park.

Oh, and what classless, obsessive douchebags the Cubs are. The Cubs Sales chief said a giant ****ing neon sign was designed to "fit with the aesthetic feel of the ballpark". There isn't even a ****ing video screen, and a 40 foot tall neon sign is going to uphold its integrity?! And of course, he had to take a shot at the Sox by saying something along the lines of "at least it isn't a big black billboard like in other parks.:rolleyes:

What big black billboard?

Rocky Soprano
03-18-2010, 02:28 PM
Winner.

They are doing this because they had another spat with the rooftop people. I believe they wanted a cut of the revenue from the Budweiser rooftop (now Horse Shoe Casino). The owner wouldn't give in, so they will almost cover it up from inside the park.

Oh, and what classless, obsessive douchebags the Cubs are. The Cubs Sales chief said a giant ****ing neon sign was designed to "fit with the aesthetic feel of the ballpark". There isn't even a ****ing video screen, and a 40 foot tall neon sign is going to uphold its integrity?! And of course, he had to take a shot at the Sox by saying something along the lines of "at least it isn't a big black billboard like in other parks.:rolleyes:

They need to stop worrying about the integrity of the park and concentrate on winning.

GoGoCrede
03-18-2010, 02:29 PM
They need to stop worrying about the integrity of the park and concentrate on actually winning.

They don't win much of anything. Their "sense of tradition" and "integrity of the park" is all they have. Along with their "Friendly Confines" atmosphere.

Rocky Soprano
03-18-2010, 02:34 PM
They don't win much of anything. Their "sense of tradition" and "integrity of the park" is all they have. Along with their "Friendly Confines" atmosphere.

I just don't get it, they should want more sponsors. Sponsors = more $. More $ = fielding a better team. Fielding a better team = a chance at winning.

tebman
03-18-2010, 02:34 PM
Gotta Love tradition.....

I wonder why they want this so badly?



They've got 2.5 million reasons (http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/2108508,cubs-billboard-toyota-sign-031710.article)a year to want this so badly. :tongue:

ewokpelts
03-18-2010, 02:51 PM
They've got 2.5 million reasons (http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/2108508,cubs-billboard-toyota-sign-031710.article)a year to want this so badly. :tongue:i posted the picture to illustrate thier fued with the "horseshoe" rooftop

JohnnyInnsbrook
03-18-2010, 03:03 PM
I just don't get it, they should want more sponsors. Sponsors = more $. More $ = fielding a better team. Fielding a better team = a chance at winning.

While I agree, it doesn't work that way with the cubs, they had the 3rd highest payroll last year at $134,809,000 and didn't make the playoffs. The problem is with how the organization is run, not the "lack of funds". What the fans should want is a well run organization that can turn more money into a winning team.

Also, doesn't the neighborhood have to approve the number night games and events at Wrigley? By trying to block one of their neighbor's advertisements, aren't the Cubs just shooting them selves in the foot by upsetting their neighbors who might turn around and say we want less night games?

october23sp
03-18-2010, 03:12 PM
Why is this front page news on ESPN?

RedHeadPaleHoser
03-18-2010, 03:35 PM
Why is this front page news on ESPN?

Because there's no baseball news in Boston or New York.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
03-18-2010, 03:50 PM
Cubs are worried that negotiations are going to reach a sticking point and hit a wall, but they feel their momentum will allow them to break through in the end.

MARTINMVP
03-18-2010, 04:48 PM
I feel Wrigley Field has already lost a bit of its character as a result of some of the small add-ons throughout the years - including but not limited to the electronic display beneath the scoreboard and the rotating banner display behind home plate.

On average, I've gone to a Cubs game or two once a year or every other year. As a former Cubs fan (more on the casual side), I never truly understood the unconditional love for that place. Maybe that feeling is shared by those who attend regularly, while the rest of the casual fans simply proclaim their love for it to sound cool, but I have never had a warm and fuzzy feeling for that place. I'm not saying I hate the place, but I would take a ball game at the Cell any day of the week, and that has been my opinion long before I ever officially began to embrace the South side. I honestly feel that the atmosphere along the outfield concourse - and being able to stand along and watch the game from behind the seats along with a group of friends (and even complete strangers) is pretty special.

WhiteSox5187
03-18-2010, 04:50 PM
What big black billboard?

The old Torco sign maybe?

pythons007
03-18-2010, 05:59 PM
I hope the "neon sign" distracts their hitters. Cub fans are such puppets!

Red Barchetta
03-18-2010, 07:31 PM
They don't win much of anything. Their "sense of tradition" and "integrity of the park" is all they have. Along with their "Friendly Confines" atmosphere.

I agree. They're focusing on what they are very good at....marketing a ballpark instead of a ballclub. How else can you sell out home games for a team that hasn't won a championship in over 100 years. They can't sell anything but atmosphere. I for one, love the atmosphere of urinal trough splash! :rolleyes:

slavko
03-18-2010, 07:47 PM
Cubs are worried that negotiations are going to reach a sticking point and hit a wall, but they feel their momentum will allow them to break through in the end.

Watch out, no one will be able to stop the Cubs now!

That's the spirit. We know how to focus on a situation. If Toyota could merge with Trane furnaces, they'd have a great slogan.

Woofer
03-18-2010, 08:20 PM
I have no idea why the Cub fans would be against this billboard. With help from Toyota, the Cubs would be unstoppable.

Irishsox1
03-18-2010, 08:39 PM
Now that the Tribune's dumped the Cubs, for some reason I feel differently about the team. I guess I had a lot of animosity towards the Tribune Corp and the obvious conflict of interest in owning the Cubs and the media coverage towards the Sox.

I say let this Rickets guy do whatever he wants. He paid way to much for the Cubs and as much as the city wants to call it a historical building, it's still his park.

Red Barchetta
03-18-2010, 09:29 PM
Why do I find so much ironic humor in the fact that the Chicago Cubs want to install a large neon Toyota sign in Wrigley Field?! :tongue:

Timing, in life and baseball, is everything!

DumpJerry
03-18-2010, 10:51 PM
http://www.leedberg.com/seinfeld/kramer/kramer.jpg
I know a thing or two about bright neon signs......

Hitmen77
03-18-2010, 11:23 PM
Now that the Tribune's dumped the Cubs, for some reason I feel differently about the team. I guess I had a lot of animosity towards the Tribune Corp and the obvious conflict of interest in owning the Cubs and the media coverage towards the Sox.

I say let this Rickets guy do whatever he wants. He paid way to much for the Cubs and as much as the city wants to call it a historical building, it's still his park.

Not me. As much as I disliked the Tribune era for the Cubs, it's not the Trib that makes me hate the Cubs so much, it's their fans. I don't care who owns the Cubs, their fan base in general (yes, I know individual Cub fans who don't fit this mold) are so condescending, arrogant, and pompous about their "lovable loser" team that I hope they're losers for another 100 years.

A lot of these clowns still can't accept the Sox World Series title and try to act like the Sox are irrelevant in Chicago and have no fans.

The old Torco sign maybe?

Good one.

This is one of the problems with Cub-dumb: they set arbitrary standards for what is supposedly the "right" atmosphere for baseball. Oh no, we can't have any electronic scoreboard! Why not? Just because the Cubs don't have one? :scratch: Everyone can have a freaking cell phone at Wrigley - but an electronic scoreboard is sacrilegious.

Before Wrigley got lights, many Cub fan used to say that baseball was "meant" to be played in the sunshine. Again, why? It was because the Cubs didn't have lights, that's why! Of course, the Cubs installed lights and now everyone dropped that "sunshine" malarkey.

Ads at a ballpark were supposedly blasphemy and why would anyone want to go to see a Sox game at a park full of ads.....except that many old time ballparks were full of ads (see old footage of Ebbets Field or even Fenway Park). Minor league parks have traditionally had ads all over their outfield walls. But no, it's the cheap, money-grubbing Sox who were ruining baseball tradition with ads.....except now that we have the Walter E Smith dugout, the Bud Light bleachers, and the Captain Morgan bar at Wrigley, it fits in wonderfully with Wrigley's the baseball mystique.......:rolleyes: It's all just a bunch of never ending bull**** spewed by arrogant Cub fans.

MarySwiss
03-19-2010, 12:06 AM
Not me. As much as I disliked the Tribune era for the Cubs, it's not the Trib that makes me hate the Cubs so much, it's their fans. I don't care who owns the Cubs, their fan base in general (yes, I know individual Cub fans who don't fit this mold) are so condescending, arrogant, and pompous about their "lovable loser" team that I hope they're losers for another 100 years.

A lot of these clowns still can't accept the Sox World Series title and try to act like the Sox are irrelevant in Chicago and have no fans.



Good one.

This is one of the problems with Cub-dumb: they set arbitrary standards for what is supposedly the "right" atmosphere for baseball. Oh no, we can't have any electronic scoreboard! Why not? Just because the Cubs don't have one? :scratch: Everyone can have a freaking cell phone at Wrigley - but an electronic scoreboard is sacrilegious.

Before Wrigley got lights, many Cub fan used to say that baseball was "meant" to be played in the sunshine. Again, why? It was because the Cubs didn't have lights, that's why! Of course, the Cubs installed lights and now everyone dropped that "sunshine" malarkey.

Ads at a ballpark were supposedly blasphemy and why would anyone want to go to see a Sox game at a park full of ads.....except that many old time ballparks were full of ads (see old footage of Ebbets Field or even Fenway Park). Minor league parks have traditionally had ads all over their outfield walls. But no, it's the cheap, money-grubbing Sox who were ruining baseball tradition with ads.....except now that we have the Walter E Smith dugout, the Bud Light bleachers, and the Captain Morgan bar at Wrigley, it fits in wonderfully with Wrigley's the baseball mystique.......:rolleyes: It's all just a bunch of never ending bull**** spewed by arrogant Cub fans.

Classic rant! Nicely done, Hitmen! :smile:

RedHeadPaleHoser
03-19-2010, 08:57 AM
Not me. As much as I disliked the Tribune era for the Cubs, it's not the Trib that makes me hate the Cubs so much, it's their fans. I don't care who owns the Cubs, their fan base in general (yes, I know individual Cub fans who don't fit this mold) are so condescending, arrogant, and pompous about their "lovable loser" team that I hope they're losers for another 100 years.

A lot of these clowns still can't accept the Sox World Series title and try to act like the Sox are irrelevant in Chicago and have no fans.



Good one.

This is one of the problems with Cub-dumb: they set arbitrary standards for what is supposedly the "right" atmosphere for baseball. Oh no, we can't have any electronic scoreboard! Why not? Just because the Cubs don't have one? :scratch: Everyone can have a freaking cell phone at Wrigley - but an electronic scoreboard is sacrilegious.

Before Wrigley got lights, many Cub fan used to say that baseball was "meant" to be played in the sunshine. Again, why? It was because the Cubs didn't have lights, that's why! Of course, the Cubs installed lights and now everyone dropped that "sunshine" malarkey.

Ads at a ballpark were supposedly blasphemy and why would anyone want to go to see a Sox game at a park full of ads.....except that many old time ballparks were full of ads (see old footage of Ebbets Field or even Fenway Park). Minor league parks have traditionally had ads all over their outfield walls. But no, it's the cheap, money-grubbing Sox who were ruining baseball tradition with ads.....except now that we have the Walter E Smith dugout, the Bud Light bleachers, and the Captain Morgan bar at Wrigley, it fits in wonderfully with Wrigley's the baseball mystique.......:rolleyes: It's all just a bunch of never ending bull**** spewed by arrogant Cub fans.

/End Thread. This post sums it up.

kitekrazy
03-19-2010, 09:02 AM
Classic rant! Nicely done, Hitmen! :smile:

Ditto! POTW! Bravo Hitmen!

SOXPHILE
03-19-2010, 09:56 AM
Not me. As much as I disliked the Tribune era for the Cubs, it's not the Trib that makes me hate the Cubs so much, it's their fans. I don't care who owns the Cubs, their fan base in general (yes, I know individual Cub fans who don't fit this mold) are so condescending, arrogant, and pompous about their "lovable loser" team that I hope they're losers for another 100 years.

A lot of these clowns still can't accept the Sox World Series title and try to act like the Sox are irrelevant in Chicago and have no fans.



Good one.

This is one of the problems with Cub-dumb: they set arbitrary standards for what is supposedly the "right" atmosphere for baseball. Oh no, we can't have any electronic scoreboard! Why not? Just because the Cubs don't have one? :scratch: Everyone can have a freaking cell phone at Wrigley - but an electronic scoreboard is sacrilegious.

Before Wrigley got lights, many Cub fan used to say that baseball was "meant" to be played in the sunshine. Again, why? It was because the Cubs didn't have lights, that's why! Of course, the Cubs installed lights and now everyone dropped that "sunshine" malarkey.

Ads at a ballpark were supposedly blasphemy and why would anyone want to go to see a Sox game at a park full of ads.....except that many old time ballparks were full of ads (see old footage of Ebbets Field or even Fenway Park). Minor league parks have traditionally had ads all over their outfield walls. But no, it's the cheap, money-grubbing Sox who were ruining baseball tradition with ads.....except now that we have the Walter E Smith dugout, the Bud Light bleachers, and the Captain Morgan bar at Wrigley, it fits in wonderfully with Wrigley's the baseball mystique.......:rolleyes: It's all just a bunch of never ending bull**** spewed by arrogant Cub fans.

Outstanding post. I agree with everything said here. And, if I may add a few points :

-I fully support the Cubs in doing this. It's their team. It's their park. They can put up whatever advertising they see fit. It's revenue for the team. The people across the street can't see ? WAAAA ! Then go buy a ticket like everyone else and go inside. You don't have a "right" to sit outside the park and watch the game for free on a rooftop. It was a privelage that existed due to the proximity of the buildings to the park, and the way the park was situated / built.

-All these people bitching about "tradition". What tradition ? Yes, it's an old park, yes lots of games have been played there, and yes, I'll even say some historic games have been played there. Just like there have in pretty much every other park in MLB. But the Cubs have played mostly lousy baseball in that park. It's not a glorious, wonderous tradition, with a rich history of championships and big games. They have won exactly ZERO championships in that park. Since their last World Series appearance in 1945, over 64 years ago, the Cubs have finished above .500 19 times.

To all the Wrigley crybabies, I'll say don't confuse "history" and "tradition" with your memories of going to the park as a little kid on a sunny day with your parents or grandparents, or your later memories as a drunken twenty-something sitting shirtless in the bleachers with your backwards cap and pookah beads, slurring along to "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" during the 7th inning stretch. They are not the same thing.

MARTINMVP
03-19-2010, 10:13 AM
Outstanding post. I agree with everything said here. And, if I may add a few points :

-I fully support the Cubs in doing this. It's their team. It's their park. They can put up whatever advertising they see fit. It's revenue for the team. The people across the street can't see ? WAAAA ! Then go buy a ticket like everyone else and go inside. You don't have a "right" to sit outside the park and watch the game for free on a rooftop. It was a privelage that existed due to the proximity of the buildings to the park, and the way the park was situated / built.

-All these people bitching about "tradition". What tradition ? Yes, it's an old park, yes lots of games have been played there, and yes, I'll even say some historic games have been played there. Just like there have in pretty much every other park in MLB. But the Cubs have played mostly lousy baseball in that park. It's not a glorious, wonderous tradition, with a rich history of championships and big games. They have won exactly ZERO championships in that park. Since their last World Series appearance in 1945, over 64 years ago, the Cubs have finished above .500 19 times.

To all the Wrigley crybabies, I'll say don't confuse "history" and "tradition" with your memories of going to the park as a little kid on a sunny day with your parents or grandparents, or your later memories as a drunken twenty-something sitting shirtless in the bleachers with your backwards cap and pookah beads, slurring along to "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" during the 7th inning stretch. They are not the same thing.

You rule at life.

I absolutely could not possibly agree with you anymore. I think this post sums up exactly how I felt as a Cubs fan in regards to the ballpark experience.

Iwritecode
03-19-2010, 12:00 PM
-All these people bitching about "tradition". What tradition ? Yes, it's an old park, yes lots of games have been played there, and yes, I'll even say some historic games have been played there. Just like there have in pretty much every other park in MLB. But the Cubs have played mostly lousy baseball in that park. It's not a glorious, wonderous tradition, with a rich history of championships and big games. They have won exactly ZERO championships in that park. Since their last World Series appearance in 1945, over 64 years ago, the Cubs have finished above .500 19 times.

To all the Wrigley crybabies, I'll say don't confuse "history" and "tradition" with your memories of going to the park as a little kid on a sunny day with your parents or grandparents, or your later memories as a drunken twenty-something sitting shirtless in the bleachers with your backwards cap and pookah beads, slurring along to "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" during the 7th inning stretch. They are not the same thing.

I actually know a Cubs fan that feels the same way. He says they'll never win anything until they get out of that stadium.

thomas35forever
03-19-2010, 12:34 PM
I understand this brings in more money, but Toyota? Seriously? After everything that's gone on there?

doublem23
03-19-2010, 01:29 PM
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-I fully support the Cubs in doing this. It's their team. It's their park. They can put up whatever advertising they see fit. It's revenue for the team. The people across the street can't see ? WAAAA ! Then go buy a ticket like everyone else and go inside. You don't have a "right" to sit outside the park and watch the game for free on a rooftop. It was a privelage that existed due to the proximity of the buildings to the park, and the way the park was situated / built.

That is 100% not true and that's why this whole thing has become a story. Wrigley Field is on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places, so any change must be approved before it can be implemented.

TheOldRoman
03-19-2010, 01:57 PM
That is 100% not true and that's why this whole thing has become a story. Wrigley Field is on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places, so any change must be approved before it can be implemented. They can still do anything they want with it. They would just risk losing landmark status. Look at what happened to Soldier Field. I don't know if they get money from the government for upkeep or what, but they could easliy top that with advertising money made.

russ99
03-19-2010, 02:38 PM
actually, you're half right. the cubs do not have an agreement with the "horseshoe" rooftop, but didnt need one before as the previous owner had an advertising deal with busch(who are a partner of the cubs). the new rooftop owner angered A/B and the cubs by trying to invalidate the advertising deal. so the cubs are playing hardball on behalf of thier promotional partner(A/B)

Yep. nailed it. This is no different than the chain link fence or banner ideas the Cubs used to block the rooftop seats/ads that won't play ball financially, only that it it brings in revenue and is more odious in appearance than what they're blocking.

soltrain21
03-19-2010, 04:17 PM
I understand this brings in more money, but Toyota? Seriously? After everything that's gone on there?

Is their money different than other's people money right now?

StillMissOzzie
03-19-2010, 08:58 PM
Gotta Love tradition.....

I wonder why they want this so badly?

http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/LF-Sign.jpg

Cubs 2010 Motto: "We're not stopping at a division championship (or anything else)"

SMO
:tongue:

cws05champ
03-21-2010, 08:23 PM
I understand this brings in more money, but Toyota? Seriously? After everything that's gone on there?
Whether you buy a Toyota or a ticket to a Cubs game, you are begging to see a wreck!

doublem23
03-21-2010, 08:35 PM
Is their money different than other's people money right now?

I'd be willing to bet there are plenty of would-be advertisers out there that don't get signage in ballparks. Probably willing to pay more than anyone else, too.

Whitesox029
03-21-2010, 08:47 PM
Next up: Wrigley Field at Underarmor Park

jamokes
03-21-2010, 09:43 PM
I hope the 2010 cubbies fall flat on their face. Toyota sign or not cub fans are fun to watch and deal with when the team is way down!

RadioheadRocks
03-23-2010, 02:55 PM
Watch out, no one will be able to stop the Cubs now!

:rolling:

konerko 14
03-23-2010, 03:22 PM
haha

#1swisher
03-25-2010, 02:31 PM
Mike Colias/ Crain's, article on Tom Rickett speaking at the Executives Club of Chicago regarding advertising at WF.

http://ow.ly/1qRh8

Dub25
03-31-2010, 11:24 PM
Wow, a bad beer with a car that will kill me even if I'm dumb enough to drink and drive or not.

RedHeadPaleHoser
04-01-2010, 07:19 AM
Opening up space under the right field bleachers for group events. Hmm....I wonder if the precious vines and brick will be replaced with screening so people can watch down there.....:scratch:

Executive club along 3B? Just out of general home plate camera range....how interesting.....can't hamper the down home goodness feeling on TV by showing $24K seats, I suppose.

doublem23
06-09-2010, 12:20 PM
City Hall is expected to approve the sign within the hour, should be up in time for this weekend's Crosstown Series.