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JermaineDye05
03-12-2010, 08:26 PM
Link (http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2010/03/why_peavy_is_a_man_and_youre_n.html)

MarkZ35
03-12-2010, 08:40 PM
Was Peavy even a media-holic in SD or does he really like being on the southside that much? I love him on the team but I just can't tell if this **** is real or not.

TheVulture
03-12-2010, 08:42 PM
You've got to love the effusive enthusiasm. Coming from a player like Peavy, hopefully it will infect the entire team.

GoGoCrede
03-12-2010, 08:43 PM
Was Peavy even a media-holic in SD or does he really like being on the southside that much? I love him on the team but I just can't tell if this **** is real or not.

Meh. Even if it's not, it's still accomplishing the same thing - getting fans excited for the new season and getting the team pumped to win.

Personally, I think it's real, but who knows?

JermaineDye05
03-12-2010, 08:45 PM
Was Peavy even a media-holic in SD or does he really like being on the southside that much? I love him on the team but I just can't tell if this **** is real or not.

I'd say it's genuine. KW said he couldn't get Jake off the phone when the trade went down because of how excited he was.

Marqhead
03-12-2010, 08:47 PM
I ain't got time to bleed.

MarkZ35
03-12-2010, 08:49 PM
I'd say it's genuine. KW said he couldn't get Jake off the phone when the trade went down because of how excited he was.
That's what I think but some of his quotes are amazing. It's almost as if he has these in a book and uses them when he can.

Meh. Even if it's not, it's still accomplishing the same thing - getting fans excited for the new season and getting the team pumped to win.

Personally, I think it's real, but who knows?
Well it's sure working for me. If it gets the team half as pumped as I am then they all probably want the season to start today.

102605
03-12-2010, 08:54 PM
Peavy seemed pretty much the same here in San Diego. He had the same mentality even on the Padres.

HomeFish
03-12-2010, 08:57 PM
Billy Koch talked a lot of smack too in the off-season we acquired him.

Boondock Saint
03-12-2010, 09:03 PM
Billy Koch talked a lot of smack too in the off-season we acquired him.

This comment is shocking, coming from you.

spawn
03-12-2010, 09:12 PM
Billy Koch talked a lot of smack too in the off-season we acquired him.
Maybe you should stick to talking about dinosaurs. Those posts were actually worth reading. :wink:

Brian26
03-12-2010, 09:29 PM
Billy Koch talked a lot of smack too in the off-season we acquired him.

Billy Koch didn't win a Cy Young two seasons ago.

GoGoCrede
03-12-2010, 09:37 PM
Billy Koch talked a lot of smack too in the off-season we acquired him.

Come on...aren't you even a little bit enthusiastic after Peavy's comments?

spawn
03-12-2010, 09:38 PM
Come on...aren't you even a little bit enthusiastic after Peavy's comments?
You obviously haven't read many of Homefish's posts.:wink:

GoGoCrede
03-12-2010, 09:44 PM
You obviously haven't read many of Homefish's posts.:wink:

I mean, if you can't get excited for White Sox baseball before they've even played (and the hope for a great season is still alive), when can you get excited?

VeeckAsInWreck
03-12-2010, 09:47 PM
Seeing HomeFish excited about White Sox baseball is like seeing a Cubs World Series Championship.

DSpivack
03-12-2010, 09:49 PM
Seeing HomeFish excited about White Sox baseball is like seeing a Cubs World Series Championship.

Any crowd is likely to have it's own Eeyore.

Chicago5oooh
03-12-2010, 09:51 PM
My man crush on Peavy continues. This guy is awesome.

VeeckAsInWreck
03-12-2010, 09:53 PM
Any crowd is likely to have it's own Eeyore.

True. He's like Randy Quaid in Major League 2 when the Indians started losing. Except HomeFish is like that year round.

ilsox7
03-12-2010, 09:54 PM
I'd like to see Homefish extrapolate Peavy's increased excitement from last fall until now over the entire season on a line graph.

DSpivack
03-12-2010, 09:59 PM
True. He's like Randy Quaid in Major League 2 when the Indians started losing. Except HomeFish is like that year round.

I can get like that at times. When Illinois got down 15 with 4 minutes to go against Arizona, I thought they were done. When the Sox got swept in Minnesota in 2008, I thought they were done. And I could think of a few other examples.

all*star quentin
03-12-2010, 10:00 PM
My man crush on Peavy continues. This guy is awesome.

Cowley has a man crush, as well:redneck

HomeFish
03-12-2010, 10:02 PM
All I'm saying, guys, is that an athlete talking smack is not indicative of a subsequent change in performance. You don't make yourself a better player by talking yourself up.

Peavy is obviously more talented than Koch, but not because of anything he says.

Sufferin
03-12-2010, 10:02 PM
perhaps Homefish needs Sox Cialis?

Would that be Soxalis?

HomeFish
03-12-2010, 10:03 PM
I mean, if you can't get excited for White Sox baseball before they've even played (and the hope for a great season is still alive), when can you get excited?

When they start consistently playing well.

HomeFish
03-12-2010, 10:04 PM
Maybe you should stick to talking about dinosaurs. Those posts were actually worth reading. :wink:

I appreciate that you noticed those posts. In 2nd grade my biggest dream was to become a Paleontologist.

Boondock Saint
03-12-2010, 10:10 PM
All I'm saying, guys, is that an athlete talking smack is not indicative of a subsequent change in performance. You don't make yourself a better player by talking yourself up.

Peavy is obviously more talented than Koch, but not because of anything he says.

Nobody's talking about a change in performance. People are talking about his typical performance. I'm sure you've seen or read about Peavy's stats/awards. He's an ace, and people are excited to see him do what he does.

sullythered
03-12-2010, 10:23 PM
Billy Koch talked a lot of smack too in the off-season we acquired him.

You never miss a beat.

HomeFish
03-13-2010, 12:09 AM
Nobody's talking about a change in performance. People are talking about his typical performance. I'm sure you've seen or read about Peavy's stats/awards. He's an ace, and people are excited to see him do what he does.

He is also coming off a major injury, is one year older, and just moved to a hitters park in the AL.

WisSoxFan
03-13-2010, 08:44 AM
He is also coming off a major injury, is one year older, and just moved to a hitters park in the AL.

Ya know, you've convinced me. He sucks and I'm done with the Sox for the rest of the season. Screw 'em.

spawn
03-13-2010, 08:57 AM
Ya know, you've convinced me. He sucks and I'm done with the Sox for the rest of the season. Screw 'em.
:tealpolice:

Craig Grebeck
03-13-2010, 09:48 AM
I couldn't care less about the rah-rah bull****. Just pitch well.

voodoochile
03-13-2010, 09:50 AM
I couldn't care less about the rah-rah bull****. Just pitch well.

So you don't believe that a team can come together and play better than the sum of their parts or that emotional bonding/commitment matter?

TheOldRoman
03-13-2010, 09:52 AM
So you don't believe that a team can come together and play better than the sum of their parts or that emotional bonding/commitment matter?Where have you been, Voodoo? A team is no better than the sum if its VORP.

Craig Grebeck
03-13-2010, 09:55 AM
So you don't believe that a team can come together and play better than the sum of their parts or that emotional bonding/commitment matter?
Stop putting words in my mouth.

I couldn't care less what Jake Peavy says to some douchebag like Joe Cowley.
Where have you been, Voodoo? A team is no better than the sum if its VORP.
Find one post in which I used VORP. Please. I'm begging you.

MetroPD
03-13-2010, 10:23 AM
Its about time we had some team leadership. Looks like Jakes looking to take that role and it will be good if he can deliver.

Thatguyoverthere
03-13-2010, 10:26 AM
He is also coming off a major injury, is one year older, and just moved to a hitters park in the AL.You act like the guy's 35 or something. One year older? He's 28 and just entering what are supposed to be his prime years!

#1swisher
03-14-2010, 11:22 AM
Here's video of the Peavy comebacker.

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=7191543

sullythered
03-14-2010, 01:08 PM
Find one post in which I used VORP. Please. I'm begging you.

I think the point is that stat guys (like you) tend to discount things like leadership, out of hand.

I find it odd that the argument is always made by statistically-inclined baseball fans to ignore the intangibles. It's pretty clear that the intangibles are much more valuable in the game of baseball than in football or especially basketball (in the NBA, the most talented team almost always wins), yet you don't get those arguments as often when discussing those sports.

Daver
03-14-2010, 01:18 PM
I think the point is that stat guys (like you) tend to discount things like leadership, out of hand.

I find it odd that the argument is always made by statistically-inclined baseball fans to ignore the intangibles. It's pretty clear that the intangibles are much more valuable in the game of baseball than in football or especially basketball (in the NBA, the most talented team almost always wins), yet you don't get those arguments as often when discussing those sports.

Anything that can't be quantified is minimilized and dismissed as insignificant.

voodoochile
03-14-2010, 01:27 PM
Stop putting words in my mouth.

I couldn't care less what Jake Peavy says to some douchebag like Joe Cowley.


Sorry, wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. I was interested in an answer. You pound the stats so much that it's hard to know if you believe there are other aspects to the game.

The post I replied to seemed to imply you don't accept other factors can make a difference. That's why I phrased it in a negative way. My bad.

Here...

Do you believe that a team can come together and play better than the sum of their parts and that emotional bonding/commitment matter?

KenBerryGrab
03-14-2010, 03:41 PM
Do you believe that a team can come together and play better than the sum of their parts and that emotional bonding/commitment matter?

I know you're not talking to me, but...
http://artfiles.art.com/5/p/LRG/14/1434/EQCR000Z/2005-white-sox-world-series-champions-sit-down-team-photo.jpg

jabrch
03-14-2010, 03:54 PM
I can get like that at times. When Illinois got down 15 with 4 minutes to go against Arizona, I thought they were done. When the Sox got swept in Minnesota in 2008, I thought they were done. And I could think of a few other examples.


Those were good times to believe things were done.

Spring Training - not so good.

soxfanreggie
03-14-2010, 04:16 PM
My man crush on Peavy continues. This guy is awesome.

I agree with Jake Peavy achieving non-sexual man crush status. I can't wait to see what he does this season. Hopefully if things go well, he will be willing to make things work on staying here for the rest of his career.

Madscout
03-14-2010, 04:23 PM
:tealpolice:
Good to see they are still on the beat.

Ranger
03-15-2010, 02:35 AM
He is also coming off a major injury, is one year older, and just moved to a hitters park in the AL.

Weak. Dude is healthy and is good. He's gonna be just fine.

I think the point is that stat guys (like you) tend to discount things like leadership, out of hand.

I find it odd that the argument is always made by statistically-inclined baseball fans to ignore the intangibles. It's pretty clear that the intangibles are much more valuable in the game of baseball than in football or especially basketball (in the NBA, the most talented team almost always wins), yet you don't get those arguments as often when discussing those sports.

Anything that can't be quantified is minimilized and dismissed as insignificant.

Got it. The issue is that it's impossible to quantify everything about the game.

While the numbers are interesting and are often useful, they are also sometimes sort of useless because you can twist any numbers into making your point as to why a player is or isn't good. The more complicated the algorithm or formula, the greater likelihood that the statistic is not reliable in some way.

Nellie_Fox
03-15-2010, 02:42 AM
He is also coming off a major injury, is one year older, and just moved to a hitters park in the AL.
http://www.yoarra.250x.com/color/color2/eeyore.gif

ewokpelts
03-15-2010, 07:25 AM
how did san diego not have resources when they have a new stadium with more money making features than the cell? and in a warmer climate?

tstrike2000
03-15-2010, 10:00 AM
I can get like that at times. When Illinois got down 15 with 4 minutes to go against Arizona, I thought they were done. When the Sox got swept in Minnesota in 2008, I thought they were done. And I could think of a few other examples.

The difference though is you were being fairly realistic given the circumstances, not an eternal pessimist.

Thome_Fan
03-15-2010, 10:24 AM
http://www.yoarra.250x.com/color/color2/eeyore.gif

:rolling: