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Sockinchisox
03-07-2010, 09:00 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2010-03-07-umpire-supervisors-fired_N.htm

DonnieDarko
03-07-2010, 09:02 PM
Wow. I didn't know that these guys could get fired! Where's their union?

spawn
03-07-2010, 09:03 PM
They could have at least fired them face to face. Doing it over the phone is pretty cowardly IMO.

october23sp
03-07-2010, 09:04 PM
Good. Other umps will take notice and not call so sloppily.

LongLiveFisk
03-07-2010, 09:04 PM
Wow. I didn't know that these guys could get fired! Where's their union?

I guess anyone can be. I would have thought they'd be fined though, rather than fired.

Marqhead
03-07-2010, 09:06 PM
It seems like officiating has been degrading for the last few years in all sports. I suppose new technology which allows us to see each play over and over with terrific angles is probably largely to blame.

I'm not opposed to shaking things up and reminding these guys that have to be on top of their game every night, but it seems they could have broken the news to them in a different manner.

doublem23
03-07-2010, 09:29 PM
Wow. I didn't know that these guys could get fired! Where's their union?

Selig broke it a looooong time ago.

This is good news, the umpiring in MLB is an issue. Personally, I think every spot should be up for grabs every year, this should be the best of the best of the best, not just some good old boys club full of dinosaurs that can't get calls right.

Lip Man 1
03-07-2010, 09:40 PM
When does Hunter Wendlestadt get his?

Lip

Domeshot17
03-07-2010, 09:50 PM
correct me if I am wrong, but reading this, it wasn't the umpires who were fired, but their supervisors.

ilsox7
03-07-2010, 09:51 PM
When does Hunter Wendlestadt get his?

Lip

Hopefully very soon along with C.B. Buckner.

The Immigrant
03-07-2010, 09:53 PM
They could have at least fired them face to face. Doing it over the phone is pretty cowardly IMO.

These guys tend to live in different cities. Not sure how else MLB could have handled it. Fly them to NYC so they can be ****-canned in person?

NDSox12
03-07-2010, 09:54 PM
correct me if I am wrong, but reading this, it wasn't the umpires who were fired, but their supervisors.

You are correct. No current on-field umpires were fired.

Brian26
03-07-2010, 10:01 PM
When does Hunter Wendlestadt get his?

Lip

Too bad Froemming is already retired too.

Thanks to those two knuckleheads, we had the pleasure of seeing Jermaine Dye replace Joe Crede at shortstop.

thomas35forever
03-07-2010, 10:57 PM
I thought Garcia left years ago.

johnnyg83
03-07-2010, 11:19 PM
Angel Hernandez and Ed Rapuano are awful camera hogs who think the game is about them somehow.

Dibbs
03-07-2010, 11:26 PM
No one is worse than Phil Cuzzi. I would love to see umpires ousted for terrible calls. You get fired in any other type of job when you do not perform well. Not umpires though.

StillMissOzzie
03-07-2010, 11:29 PM
correct me if I am wrong, but reading this, it wasn't the umpires who were fired, but their supervisors.

You are correct, but the article says that it is the supervisors who recommend the umpires to MLB for the post-season. IMHO, this is MLB saying, "These are the best guys you can send? Yer outta here!"

SMO
:gulp:

PalehosePlanet
03-07-2010, 11:29 PM
correct me if I am wrong, but reading this, it wasn't the umpires who were fired, but their supervisors.

Correct. Judging by the tone of the article, my guess is that they were fired for not disciplining the umpires who made the bad calls in the playoffs. Or maybe for choosing to have them umpire the games in the first place when there were better options.

Again, this is just a thought/guess.

DeadMoney
03-08-2010, 01:45 AM
As long as Doug Eddings is still around, I'm happy...

g0g0
03-08-2010, 08:32 AM
Good to hear. Last year had some very bad calls.

asindc
03-08-2010, 08:57 AM
Correct. Judging by the tone of the article, my guess is that they were fired for not disciplining the umpires who made the bad calls in the playoffs. Or maybe for choosing to have them umpire the games in the first place when there were better options.

Again, this is just a thought/guess.

I think this is it. This has been the recurring problem with the umpires' union and MLB. The umps go out of there way to protect their own, integrity of the game be damned. "So what if a call costs Minnesota a win in the 2nd game of the ALDS?"

LITTLE NELL
03-08-2010, 09:20 AM
This is a case of "The buck stop here" since they fired the supervisors instead of the umps that blew the calls. C.B. Bucknor is a horrible umpire and needs to be canned.

Luke
03-08-2010, 10:52 AM
This is a case of "The buck stop here" since they fired the supervisors instead of the umps that blew the calls. C.B. Bucknor is a horrible umpire and needs to be canned.

The players have rated him one of, if not the worst in the game. There was no reason for him to be doing post season games.

tacosalbarojas
03-08-2010, 12:18 PM
Let's not forget - Garcia was on the Jeffrey Maier call in '96.

ShoelessJoeS
03-08-2010, 01:43 PM
These guys tend to live in different cities. Not sure how else MLB could have handled it. Fly them to NYC so they can be ****-canned in person?They should have hired George Clooney.

samurai_sox
03-08-2010, 02:06 PM
I was really hoping Phil Cuzzi would be one of the three fired, but nope. :angry:

JermaineDye05
03-08-2010, 02:15 PM
Who was the ump that blew the Mauer double?

NDSox12
03-08-2010, 07:20 PM
Who was the ump that blew the Mauer double?

Phil Cuzzi.

VMSNS
03-09-2010, 12:35 AM
Who was the ump that blew the Mauer double?

Phil Cuzzi, which is why I'm surprised that guy isn't on the list. That ball was fair by a good foot. How you can blow a call that's so obvious is beyond me, especially when it's right in front of your face.

I clicked the link hoping it'd be Cuzzi fired. Damn... :angry:



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WhiteSox5187
03-09-2010, 12:56 AM
Phil Cuzzi.

Phil Cuzzi is one of those umpires who thinks people are there to see him. There was an interesting thing on MLB Network awhile back with some umpires and while they were still very protective of their own, one of them said something like "If the public knows your name, it probably isn't because you're doing a great job..."

#1swisher
03-09-2010, 01:20 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2010-03-07-umpire-supervisors-fired_N.htm


Looks like 3 job openings :tongue:

Ranger
03-09-2010, 02:48 PM
correct me if I am wrong, but reading this, it wasn't the umpires who were fired, but their supervisors.

Hopefully very soon along with C.B. Buckner.

They did not fire any of the field umpires (Bucknor, of course, one of the guys in question during this postseason. His job of safe. Somehow.)

You are correct, but the article says that it is the supervisors who recommend the umpires to MLB for the post-season. IMHO, this is MLB saying, "These are the best guys you can send? Yer outta here!"

SMO
:gulp:

I've seen part of the "evaluation" process, and it really doesn't look like much. They're rated 1 through 5 on various aspects, and it looks like there are supervisors that treat the form like it's a questionnaire they don't really want to take the time to fill out.

gobears1987
03-09-2010, 03:20 PM
Wait? They fire the supervisors (who didn't make the calls) and keep that bitch Phil Cuzzi? How does that piece of **** have a job? I'll bet Ozzie is asking that same question right now since Cuzzi always creates controversy when he umps the Sox.

Irishsox1
03-09-2010, 06:21 PM
Although I consider McClelland is one of the best, he had a horrible call last year in the Yankees vs. Angles (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Umpire-Tim-McClelland-makes-the-worst-call-of-al?urn=mlb,197210) series.

I was thinking maybe he's lost it, he's been calling games at least 26 years.

1989
03-09-2010, 06:59 PM
Good. Other umps will take notice and not call so sloppily.

Excellent point. Those umps definitely blew the game on purpose. Now this will show them!