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DirtySox
02-23-2010, 11:20 AM
The list was released earlier today.

Here (http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=7539)

55. Jared Mitchell
60. Tyler Flowers
66. Dan Hudson

cws05champ
02-23-2010, 12:22 PM
Man, Baseball America's servers must be wrecked....I can not get onto the site.

doublem23
02-23-2010, 01:12 PM
I dig the early respect for Mitchell. How does he stack up to other guys from the Draft of 2009?

Craig Grebeck
02-23-2010, 01:13 PM
Shocked to see Danks and Viciedo off the list. Shocked, I say. Oh wait.

oeo
02-23-2010, 01:28 PM
Shocked to see Danks and Viciedo off the list. Shocked, I say. Oh wait.

These lists are so volatile, it means nothing. Considering Viciedo was #61 last year without ever playing a game, that gives you an idea of what the list means and how easily it can change.

DirtySox
02-23-2010, 01:39 PM
I dig the early respect for Mitchell. How does he stack up to other guys from the Draft of 2009?

The upside people are in love with his tools. His ceiling is fantastic.

Bolded the '09 draft prospects:

1 Jason Heyward, of, Braves
2 Stephen Strasburg, rhp, Nationals
3 Mike Stanton, of, Marlins
4 Jesus Montero, c, Yankees
5 Brian Matusz, lhp, Orioles
6 Desmond Jennings, of, Rays
7 Buster Posey, c, Giants
8 Pedro Alvarez, 3b, Pirates
9 Neftali Feliz, lhp, Rangers
10 Carlos Santana, c, Indians
11 Dustin Ackley, of/1b/2b, Mariners
12 Alcides Escobar, ss, Brewers
13 Justin Smoak, 1b, Rangers
14 Madison Bumgarner, lhp, Giants
15 Domonic Brown, of, Phillies
16 Starlin Castro, ss, Cubs
17 Martin Perez, lhp, Rangers
18 Jeremy Hellickson, lhp, Rays
19 Aaron Hicks, of, Twins
20 Logan Morrison, 1b, Marlins
21 Ryan Westmoreland, of, Red Sox
22 Aroldis Chapman, lhp, Reds
23 Tyler Matzek, lhp, Rockies
24 Casey Kelly, lhp, Red Sox
25 Kyle Drabek, lhp, Blue Jays
26 Jacob Turner, lhp, Tigers
27 Brett Wallace, 3b/1b, Blue Jays
28 Chris Carter, of/1b, Athletics
29 Michael Taylor, of, Athletics
30 Michael Saunders, of, Mariners
31 Lonnie Chisenhall, 3b, Indians
32 Freddie Freeman, 1b, Braves
33 Christian Friedrich, lhp, Rockies
34 Wade Davis, lhp, Rays
35 Matt Moore, lhp, Rays
36 Jarrod Parker, lhp, Diamondbacks
37 Josh Bell, 3b, Orioles
38 Derek Norris, c, Nationals
39 Mike Montgomery, lhp, Royals
40 Aaron Crow, lhp, Royals
41 Jason Castro, c, Astros
42 Tanner Scheppers, lhp, Rangers
43 Todd Frazier, of/2b/3b, Reds
44 Nick Hagadone, lhp, Indians
45 Yonder Alonso, 1b, Reds
46 Dee Gordon, ss, Dodgers
47 Casey Crosby, lhp, Tigers
48 Chris Withrow, lhp, Dodgers
49 Zack Wheeler, lhp, Giants
50 Shelby Miller, lhp, Cardinals
51 Julio Teheran, lhp, Braves
52 Grant Green, ss, Athletics
53 Donavan Tate, of, Padres
54 Reid Brignac, ss, Rays
55 Jared Mitchell, of, White Sox
56 Jennry Mejia, lhp, Mets
57 Simon Castro, lhp, Padres
58 Wilson Ramos, c, Twins
59 Brett Lawrie, 2b, Brewers
60 Tyler Flowers, c, White Sox
61 Kyle Gibson, lhp, Twins
62 Ike Davis, 1b, Mets
63 Zach Britton, lhp, Orioles
64 Jason Knapp, lhp, Indians
65 Alex White, lhp, Indians
66 Dan Hudson, lhp, White Sox
67 Tim Beckham, ss, Rays
68 Alex Colome, lhp, Rays
69 Arodys Vizcaino, lhp, Braves
70 Josh Vitters, 3b, Cubs
71 Jhoulys Chacin, lhp, Rockies
72 Mike Leake, lhp, Reds
73 Jiovanni Mier, ss, Astros
74 Brett Jackson, of, Cubs
75 Josh Reddick, of, Red Sox
76 Austin Jackson, of, Tigers
77 Fernando Martinez, of, Mets
78 Chad James, lhp, Marlins
79 Tony Sanchez, c, Pirates
80 Mike Moustakas, 3b, Royals
81 Travis d’Arnaud, c, Blue Jays
82 Jaff Decker, of, Padres
83 Adam Moore, c, Mariners
84 Hank Conger, c, Angels
85 Mike Trout, of, Angels
86 Austin Romine, c, Yankees
87 Lars Anderson, 1b, Red Sox
88 Wilmer Flores, ss, Mets
89 Mat Gamel, 3b, Brewers
90 James Darnell, 3b, Padres
91 Jordan Lyles, lhp, Astros
92 Drew Storen, lhp, Nationals
93 Phillippe Aumont, lhp, Phillies
94 Miguel Sano, ss/3b, Twins
95 Andrew Cashner, lhp, Cubs
96 Thomas Neal, of, Giants
97 Peter Bourjos, of, Angels
98 Jay Jackson, lhp, Cubs
99 Jake Arrieta, lhp, Orioles
100 Noel Arguelles, lhp, Royals

Rohan
02-23-2010, 02:09 PM
These lists are so volatile, it means nothing. Considering Viciedo was #61 last year without ever playing a game, that gives you an idea of what the list means and how easily it can change.


Exactly. That's why we should take this as nothing more than speculation. Like my old coach used to say "Potential is useless without results."

thedudeabides
02-23-2010, 02:23 PM
Shocked to see Danks and Viciedo off the list. Shocked, I say. Oh wait.

Shocked to see you say that again.

I think Viviedo has a better chance at being a major leagur contributer over the next two years than more than half that list.

SI1020
02-23-2010, 03:50 PM
Shocked to see you say that again.

I think Viviedo has a better chance at being a major leagur contributer over the next two years than more than half that list. I'm just curious, but have you seen him play?

mzh
02-23-2010, 03:58 PM
DirtySox:
To be fair I guess Crow is technically a 2008 prospect, but he actually signed this time in09 so IDK

thedudeabides
02-23-2010, 04:12 PM
I'm just curious, but have you seen him play?

No. I've only seen video footage. My confidence comes from some scouting reports I've heard first hand.

Anyway, his bat speed and wrist strength are truly elite. He adjusted well in the second half of the season, and started to change his approach. He was actually a much beter hitter with two strikes, so it finally got through to him that he needed to shorten up his swing. The results were pretty encouraging.

If he continues the progress, and sticks with the adjustments the Sox may give him a chance later in the year. That's how confident they are in his ability. I've heard you may see him at the big league level before Flowers.

A lot of people are ready to write him off, but some of that is just ignoring the human element of the game and what he had to endure at such a young age.

That's why these lists are so fickle. His talent at the plate is a lot better than many hitters on the list, but he was out of place at 20 years old in AA. That's a really tall order. His defense is never going to be much, and nobody really ever thought he would stay at third, so a lot of evaluators think he "lost value" when he was moved from third.

Domeshot17
02-23-2010, 04:24 PM
Shocked we got 3 on the list personally, but good. I think the list shows the wide range of spec on our top prospects. Mitchell is all potential, could be great, a lot of work. Hudson, for some reason a ton of scouts think hes maxed out, hell be a fine mid to back end guy, never above a 3, we will see. Flowers has major talent, and major questions. Another well see.

Scheppers breaks my heart man. I was clamoring for him during the draft. He was such a steal, taking phlegley over him could be a bad mistake. Scheppers already soaring up the boards and scouts already question of Phlegley is ever going to hit with a wood bat.

rdivaldi
02-23-2010, 08:03 PM
scouts already question of Phlegley is ever going to hit with a wood bat.

Then those scouts have never heard of the Cape Cod League.

Domeshot17
02-23-2010, 09:08 PM
Then those scouts have never heard of the Cape Cod League.

To be honest I don't know much about how he looked after the draft except some blips he looked terrible, but its not like other kids. I just know Scheppers may haunt us in the same way Porcello might. The only upside on that was Poreda was just enough to headline the peavy deal

rdivaldi
02-24-2010, 09:09 PM
To be honest I don't know much about how he looked after the draft except some blips he looked terrible, but its not like other kids. I just know Scheppers may haunt us in the same way Porcello might. The only upside on that was Poreda was just enough to headline the peavy deal

To be fair, I'm heavily biased towards Phegley being an IU grad and having watched a ton of his games on the Big 10 Network. Scheppers has a high ceiling, but that shoulder injury scared a lot of teams away. I'm not high on the Rangers being able to develop him either.

Domeshot17
02-25-2010, 03:04 PM
Unless my eyes are wrong, The Sox got Peavy without losing any top 100 prospects. Poreda is completely off the list. His secondary stuff will probably never come along.

Tragg
03-14-2010, 09:53 AM
Unless my eyes are wrong, The Sox got Peavy without losing any top 100 prospects. Poreda is completely off the list. His secondary stuff will probably never come along.
We probably gave up more for Swisher (on paper and as it turns out) than for Peavy.