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DirtySox
02-20-2010, 08:51 PM
College ball started yesterday, and that means it's time to start paying attention to the draft stock if you are a draftnik. I figured this thread could be a multi-purpose thread to track any potential draft prospects, or any college teams/players of interest.

MLB Network is currently showing UCLA/Bethune Cookman. UCLA's pitcher Trevor Bauer is an interesting watch. He's a 2011 draft prospect, but he had a somewhat impressive freshman year last season. He has been called Lincecum Jr due to the similarities in delivery/mechanics. He's shown a mid 90's fastball, a decent curve, as well as a change. It's a good watch so far, especially if you need a baseball fix.

Corlose 15
02-20-2010, 08:56 PM
The Sox have the 13th pick this summer, you figure they should be able to get an impact player at that spot. They've had a couple solid drafts in a row, hopefully they turn that 13th pick into something.

DirtySox
02-20-2010, 09:05 PM
Some noteworthy lines from yesterday evening:

Taylor Jungmann, Texas, 2011: 7 IP, 7 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO against New Mexico
Anthony Ranaudo, LSU, 2010: 5 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 6 SO against Centenary
Danny Hultzen, Virginia, 2011: 6 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 4 SO against East Carolina
Seth Blair, Arizona State, 2010: 5 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 5 SO against Northern Illinois
Taylor Wall, Rice, 2011: 3 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 3 SO against Stanford
Deck McGuire, Georgia Tech, 2010: 7 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 10 SO against Missouri State
Tommy Toledo, Florida, 2010: 3.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 4 SO against South Florida
Steven Maxwell, TCU, 2010: 4.2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 5 BB, 6 SO against Sam Houston State
Dallas Gallant, Sam Houston State, 2010: 6 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 4 SO against TCU
Eric Erickson, Miami, 2010: 5.2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 6 SO against Rutgers
Matt Harvey, North Carolina, 2010: 5.2 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 3 SO against George Washington
Cody Wheeler, Coastal Carolina, 2010: 6 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO against West Virginia
Drew Pomeranz, Ole Miss, 2010: 4 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 7 SO against UL Monroe
Blake Cooper, South Carolina, 2011: 5 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 7 SO against Duquesne
Alex Wimmers, Ohio State, 2010: 6 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 9 SO against North Florida
A.J. Griffin, San Diego, 2010: 6 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 8 SO against Indiana
Justin Grimm, Georgia, 2010: 5 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 6 SO against Baylor
Logan Verrett, Baylor, 2011: 7 IP, 9 H, 6 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO against Georgia
Gerrit Cole, UCLA, 2011: 6 IP, 1 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 9 SO against Southern
Barret Loux, Texas A&M, 2010: 5 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO against Seton Hall
Sonny Gray, Vanderbilt, 2011: 8 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 8 SO against Niagara
Chris Sale, Florida Gulf Coast, 2010: 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 SO against Temple
Bryan Morgado, Tennessee, 2010: 5 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 6 SO against Xavier
Pat Dean, Boston College, 2010: 7 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 8 SO against Tulane
Daniel Bibona, UC Irvine, 2010: 7 IP, 7 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 10 SO against Loyola Marymount
Martin Viramontes, Loyola Marymount, 2010: 5.1 IP, 7 H, 5 ER, 2 BB, 6 SO against UC Irvine
Alex Meyer, Kentucky, 2011: 5 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 8 SO against Virginia Tech
Asher Wojciechowski, The Citadel, 2010: 7 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 9 SO against East Tennessee State
Ryan Rodebaugh, Kennesaw State, 2010: 3 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 5 SO against Liberty
Seth Rosin, Minnesota, 2010: 4 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 SO against Akron
Chad Bettis, Texas Tech, 2010: 7 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 SO against Jacksonville State
Jimmy Reyes, Elon, 2010: 6 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 6 SO against Towson
Michael Goodnight, Houston, 2010: 4.2 IP, 1 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO against Texas State
Josh Mueller, Eastern Illinois, 2010: 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 4 BB, 6 SO against SE Louisia



Bolded the ones I will be following closely this year.

DirtySox
02-20-2010, 09:18 PM
Aside from the usual draft/college sites, I highly reccommend Andy Seiler's blog:

http://mlbbonusbaby.com/

He recently posted his 2010 White Sox Draft Preview:

Here (http://mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/02/17/2010-draft-preview-chicago-white-sox/)

mzh
02-20-2010, 11:11 PM
Aside from the usual draft/college sites, I highly reccommend Andy Seiler's blog:

http://mlbbonusbaby.com/

He recently posted his 2010 White Sox Draft Preview:

Here (http://mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/02/17/2010-draft-preview-chicago-white-sox/)
We all have 20/20 hindsight, but it's still painful to see we passed on Dan Haren, James Loney, Jon Broxton and Papelbon :(:

Nutriaitch
02-26-2010, 11:04 PM
Anthony Ranaudo, LSU, 2010: 5 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 6 SO against Centenary
Bolded the ones I will be following closely this year.

Ranaudo is a STUD, 2nd year as our Friday starter, key ingredient in our title last year.
Big kid, 6' 7" , 230
mid 90's fastball, good control, mixes his pitches well.
definite ace of our staff.

tonight's game got rained out, but he was gonna miss this start anyway.
listed as having "discomfort" in his pitching elbow.
Coach says it's nothing serious, just giving him some time off as a precaution.
Says he'll miss this start, and if necessary the next one.

Mainieri says the kids future is too bright to possibly blow it by throwing him if he doesn't feel right.

DirtySox
02-27-2010, 12:50 AM
I was only able to see Ranaudo during the CWS last year, and he didn't look all that great which was likely due to how much he was overworked. His velocity was down, and things didn't seem quite right. I'm looking forward to seeing him at his best at some point this year, because all the scouting reports are just glowing. It's likely going to be him or Taillon as the first arm taken in the draft this year.

California Sox
02-27-2010, 10:05 AM
Ranaudo hurt his elbow. I feel bad for the kid. Even though they say he'll pitch again soon, it makes you think precursor to TJ.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/college/?p=2828

Nutriaitch
02-27-2010, 10:42 AM
I was only able to see Ranaudo during the CWS last year, and he didn't look all that great which was likely due to how much he was overworked.


overworked?
he only pitched on Fridays, rarely threw a complete game.
even in the post season, he pitched on his normal schedule, except once he pitched 1 day earlier than normal.

his total innings pitched was top 5 in the country, which should only be expected because of how deep LSU went in the postseason.

if anyone on our staff was overworked, it was Coleman.
guy would get a save on Friday, and then throw a CG on Sunday.
we even used him on 2 days rest in Omaha.


His velocity was down, and things didn't seem quite right. I'm looking forward to seeing him at his best at some point this year, because all the scouting reports are just glowing. It's likely going to be him or Taillon as the first arm taken in the draft this year.

He really struggled with his 1st start in Omaha.
his next start was vintage Ranaudo, as he dominated Arkansas.
he also pitched well against Texas in the finals.

DirtySox
02-27-2010, 11:08 AM
overworked?
he only pitched on Fridays, rarely threw a complete game.
even in the post season, he pitched on his normal schedule, except once he pitched 1 day earlier than normal.

his total innings pitched was top 5 in the country, which should only be expected because of how deep LSU went in the postseason.

if anyone on our staff was overworked, it was Coleman.
guy would get a save on Friday, and then throw a CG on Sunday.
we even used him on 2 days rest in Omaha.




He really struggled with his 1st start in Omaha.
his next start was vintage Ranaudo, as he dominated Arkansas.
he also pitched well against Texas in the finals.

I'm not sure which start I saw, but there was a universal assessment that he didn't look as good as he had in the past, and many viewers were questioning why. Many scouting services were attributing it to fatigue. Nothing to get upset about really. I think he's going to be the number 2 or 3 pick this summer (barring significant injury), I just hope to see him pitch at his best sometime this year, because the start I saw was underwhelming which quite obviously was an outlier. Unfortunately it's not easy to catch college baseball, especially in my neck of the woods.

Nutriaitch
02-27-2010, 04:05 PM
I'm not sure which start I saw, but there was a universal assessment that he didn't look as good as he had in the past, and many viewers were questioning why. Many scouting services were attributing it to fatigue. Nothing to get upset about really. I think he's going to be the number 2 or 3 pick this summer (barring significant injury), I just hope to see him pitch at his best sometime this year, because the start I saw was underwhelming which quite obviously was an outlier. Unfortunately it's not easy to catch college baseball, especially in my neck of the woods.

if it was a rough outing, it was probably LSU's opener at the College World Series last year. He definitely struggled with that one.
Don't really have an answer as to why, but i personally don't think it was fatigue.

You should be able to watch him on April 23rd at 7 (central time) on ESPNU.
LSU vs Ole Miss.
should be Ranaudo vs Pomeranz since both guys are the Friday starter for their teams.

DirtySox
02-27-2010, 05:11 PM
if it was a rough outing, it was probably LSU's opener at the College World Series last year. He definitely struggled with that one.
Don't really have an answer as to why, but i personally don't think it was fatigue.

You should be able to watch him on April 23rd at 7 (central time) on ESPNU.
LSU vs Ole Miss.
should be Ranaudo vs Pomeranz since both guys are the Friday starter for their teams.

Yea. I think that was the game I watched. I recall it being the first time many people were able to see Ranaudo and there was alot of hype from the draftniks. Anything other than a stellar performance was going to leave people disappointed. I think he's going to eke out Taillon for #2 when all is said and done.

Thanks for the heads-up on the Pomeranz match-up. That will absolutely be worth the watch if both pitchers keep steamrolling the opposition.

Nutriaitch
02-27-2010, 07:51 PM
Thanks for the heads-up on the Pomeranz match-up. That will absolutely be worth the watch if both pitchers keep steamrolling the opposition.

will keep y'all posted on his status (and the status of the match-up against Pomeranz).

hoping he doesn't miss too many outings.
by far the best guy we've got.

Austin Ross was perfect through 4.1 today, then the wheels came off and he gave up 4 runs.
Reliever came in (Ben Alsup) faced 6 batters, gave up 4 runs, didn't record an out.

that's our next best starter and long reliever.

Nutriaitch
02-27-2010, 07:56 PM
Unfortunately it's not easy to catch college baseball, especially in my neck of the woods.


don't know if you catch CSS (Comcast Sports Southeast), but a few of his starts will be broadcast by them. Let me know if you catch that channel, and I'll forward that schedule to you.



P.S. apologies if i came off like an @$$ in my 1st post in this thread. wasn't my intentions at all, but after re-reading it, I can see where it might sound like it.

DirtySox
02-27-2010, 08:12 PM
don't know if you catch CSS (Comcast Sports Southeast), but a few of his starts will be broadcast by them. Let me know if you catch that channel, and I'll forward that schedule to you.



P.S. apologies if i came off like an @$$ in my 1st post in this thread. wasn't my intentions at all, but after re-reading it, I can see where it might sound like it.

My only options for college baseball are ESPNU/Big Ten Network at the moment. Not entirely sure what will be broadcast on ESPNU this year, but if something significant is on tap I usually find out in advance. The only Big Ten prospects that interest me are Alex Wimmers of course, Seth Rosin, and Mike Kvasnicka. As far as other LSU prospects go, I'd like to see more of Gibbs, Landry, and to a lesser extent Blake Dean.

No worries. I'm more of a prospect/draft guy than someone who has a rooting interest in college baseball. I hadn't even looked at Ranaudo's workload from last year and would have no idea if it qualified as overworked or not. I was just regurgitating information that BA/BP/etc had fed me.

Nutriaitch
02-27-2010, 09:10 PM
My only options for college baseball are ESPNU/Big Ten Network at the moment. Not entirely sure what will be broadcast on ESPNU this year, but if something significant is on tap I usually find out in advance. The only Big Ten prospects that interest me are Alex Wimmers of course, Seth Rosin, and Mike Kvasnicka. As far as other LSU prospects go, I'd like to see more of Gibbs, Landry, and to a lesser extent Blake Dean.

we'll be on ESPN and ESPNU a few time this year.


No worries. I'm more of a prospect/draft guy than someone who has a rooting interest in college baseball. I hadn't even looked at Ranaudo's workload from last year and would have no idea if it qualified as overworked or not. I was just regurgitating information that BA/BP/etc had fed me.

all good.
he had a few more appearances than the other big names, but that was more due to the extra games we had.
I believe he only averaged in the neighborhood of 6.2 innings per appearance if i remember right.

Nutriaitch
02-28-2010, 07:10 PM
As far as other LSU prospects go, I'd like to see more of Gibbs, Landry, and to a lesser extent Blake Dean.

LSU playing the back end of a double header vs. William and Mary.
Landry just stole his 4th base (LSU record, last done by Mitchell last year) of the game.

couple other Tigers to possibly keep an eye on:
Matt Gaudet - SR - DH/OF: great power to all fields

Trey Watkins - SO - OF: only a sophomore, so he ain't draft eligible, but WOW this guy is fun to watch. Amazing speed (on par with J. Mitchell), prototypical leadoff guy, regularly takes pitchers deep in the count, high OBP guy, really good instincts on the bases, and a great feel for when to take off on a steal.

Watkins had an OBP right at .500 before the start of the double header today. He's been on base seemingly all day.
2 triples, a walk, and a HPB (4th or 5th time he's been hit this year) in game 1, and he's 3 for 3 in game 2.

Nutriaitch
03-03-2010, 02:12 PM
Ranaudo not gonna pitch this weekend either.

Nutriaitch
03-08-2010, 05:58 PM
Ranaudo not gonna pitch this weekend either.

Coach announced today that his "Recovery Period" is being extended by a week. Meaning he ain't gonna pitch this weekend either.

I'm not liking the way this is sounding.
They're calling it a stress reaction. And this is all precautionary.

I realize that they may be just saving him for the conference slate/postseason, but I don't get all warm and fuzzy with him sitting out this long.

Hoping for him it isn't more serious than they're publicly admitting.

DirtySox
03-08-2010, 06:46 PM
I haven't heard/reach much about his injury on any college/prospect sites, so I'm going to guess it isn't too serious. They are doing the right thing by being extra cautious though. Kid is in line for a nice chunk of change this summer, and they don't want to jeopardize his potential MLB career.

DirtySox
03-12-2010, 02:29 PM
MLB.com has started to post video profiles of 2010 draft prospects of interest.

http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=7189187&topic_id=8080130

Nutriaitch
03-14-2010, 08:30 PM
I haven't heard/reach much about his injury on any college/prospect sites, so I'm going to guess it isn't too serious. They are doing the right thing by being extra cautious though. Kid is in line for a nice chunk of change this summer, and they don't want to jeopardize his potential MLB career.


word on the street is he'll throw a side session tomorrow.

if it doesn't go the way he and LSU are hoping, he may have to get his elbow scoped

Nutriaitch
03-15-2010, 09:29 PM
word on the street is he'll throw a side session tomorrow.

if it doesn't go the way he and LSU are hoping, he may have to get his elbow scoped

looking good for Ranaudo.
little/no pain in his bullpen session today.

not gonna set a timetable for his return just yet.
gonna see how he feels tomorrow, then again after his next throwing session.

sounding positive so far.

P.S. sorry for hijacking this thread into an Anthony Ranaudo watch.

DirtySox
03-22-2010, 11:03 AM
Andy posted his Mock Draft #3 - First Round. (http://mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/03/22/2010-mock-draft-3-first-round/)

Also, MLB Bonus Baby will be part of the SB Nation in the near future.

soxfanreggie
03-22-2010, 09:47 PM
We all have 20/20 hindsight, but it's still painful to see we passed on Dan Haren, James Loney, Jon Broxton and Papelbon :(:

Makes me sick to think of the money we spent in the high rounds of the early 2000's for what we got out of it. So is the 'crapshoot' of the draft...

JohnTucker0814
03-22-2010, 09:57 PM
If Ranaudo falls to us at 13 because of the recent injury problems, will the Sox take a chance on this guy? He was projected as the #2 overall pick before the injury. The ohter problem is he's a Boras guy... I'd like to see a top guy like this...

DirtySox
03-22-2010, 10:46 PM
If Ranaudo falls to us at 13 because of the recent injury problems, will the Sox take a chance on this guy? He was projected as the #2 overall pick before the injury. The ohter problem is he's a Boras guy... I'd like to see a top guy like this...

Perhaps. The comments about a framework to work with Boras in the future, stemming from the Damon negotiations make me hopeful.

If Ranaudo bounces back there isn't much chance he's still around at 13 though.

Nutriaitch
03-24-2010, 04:51 PM
If Ranaudo bounces back there isn't much chance he's still around at 13 though.

he's scheduled to start Sunday against Tennessee.
I'll let y'all know how he does.

DirtySox
03-24-2010, 04:52 PM
he's scheduled to start Sunday against Tennessee.
I'll let y'all know how he does.

Is he going to be on a reduced workload?

Nutriaitch
03-24-2010, 08:06 PM
Is he going to be on a reduced workload?

i haven't heard/read anything official, but if I had to guess, he'll probably be on a pitch count.

Nutriaitch
03-25-2010, 08:20 PM
Is he going to be on a reduced workload?

local paper saying 40 pitches or 2 innings (whichever comes 1st)

Nutriaitch
03-27-2010, 04:21 PM
Ranaudo started game 1 of today's double header

retired all 6 batters he faced, 1 K

recorded the game since I wasn't home for the beginning.
I'll go back and watch his 2 innings after the 2nd game is over.

DirtySox
03-31-2010, 01:40 PM
BaseballAmerica (http://twitter.com/BaseballAmerica)
Just confirmed that MTSU's Bryce Brentz will miss 2-3 weeks with a hairline fracture in his ankle. More details coming soon on College Blog.

DirtySox
04-01-2010, 03:14 PM
mlbtraderumors (http://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors)
Boras client James Paxton signs with the Grand Prairie AirHogs in advance of re-entering the draft: http://bit.ly/cn6Qwn

Nutriaitch
04-01-2010, 08:01 PM
Ranaudo will start tomorrow night against Georgia
7:30 (central time) on ESPNU for anyone interested in watching

DirtySox
04-01-2010, 10:14 PM
Ranaudo will start tomorrow night against Georgia
7:30 (central time) on ESPNU for anyone interested in watching

Sick. I haven't seen any worthwhile college baseball yet this year.

Really excited to see Landry, Gibbs, Ranaudo, Grimm, and McRee.

DirtySox
04-01-2010, 10:28 PM
Ranaudo still on some sort of pitch count I imagine?

102605
04-01-2010, 10:47 PM
BaseballAmerica (http://twitter.com/BaseballAmerica)
Just confirmed that MTSU's Bryce Brentz will miss 2-3 weeks with a hairline fracture in his ankle. More details coming soon on College Blog.


I know the injury sets him back a little but what do you think about this guy? From what I have read he is a major power hitting corner OF projected prospect. I would like to hear your thoughts on him. Maybe a good KW buying chip since we lost a little faith in Mitchell?

DirtySox
04-01-2010, 11:08 PM
I know the injury sets him back a little but what do you think about this guy? From what I have read he is a major power hitting corner OF projected prospect. I would like to hear your thoughts on him. Maybe a good KW buying chip since we lost a little faith in Mitchell?

Everyone is crazy about the videogame like numbers he put up last year, but the fact that he is playing against rather mediocre competition needs to be taken into consideration. From what I've read there are some questions about his makeup and his coachability.

I think he's more of a middle to late first round pick, and he needs to put up similar numbers to last years line of .465/.535/.930 for him to go early first round. It's entirely possible he's drafted earlier though, especially since this year's crop of college hitters is really weak. A team that buys into his bat and is lacking some OF depth could probably nab him for slot early on allowing them to spend more on later round picks. (See Pirates/Orioles of last year)

I do like the guy, partly due to his gaudy numbers and the oft mentioned Nick Markakis comp. I really would be surprised if we draft someone other than a pitcher with our 1st round pick though.

Here (http://www.pnrscouting.com/scoutingreports_2010_brentzbr.html) is a somewhat dated scouting report, and some video clips.

Also one here (http://www.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7200781).

Nutriaitch
04-02-2010, 09:08 AM
Ranaudo still on some sort of pitch count I imagine?

Coach Mainieri says no predetermined count for tonight.
Just gonna depend on how the game unfolds.

102605
04-02-2010, 09:36 AM
Everyone is crazy about the videogame like numbers he put up last year, but the fact that he is playing against rather mediocre competition needs to be taken into consideration. From what I've read there are some questions about his makeup and his coachability.

I think he's more of a middle to late first round pick, and he needs to put up similar numbers to last years line of .465/.535/.930 for him to go early first round. It's entirely possible he's drafted earlier though, especially since this year's crop of college hitters is really weak. A team that buys into his bat and is lacking some OF depth could probably nab him for slot early on allowing them to spend more on later round picks. (See Pirates/Orioles of last year)

I do like the guy, partly due to his gaudy numbers and the oft mentioned Nick Markakis comp. I really would be surprised if we draft someone other than a pitcher with our 1st round pick though.

Here (http://www.pnrscouting.com/scoutingreports_2010_brentzbr.html) is a somewhat dated scouting report, and some video clips.

Also one here (http://www.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7200781).


Thanks for the info! I know your usually the resident WSI guru on the draft and prospects. I actually selected this guy in the WSI Dynasty Minor League draft a few weeks ago and I wanted to hear some other opinions.

DirtySox
04-02-2010, 10:37 AM
Takes on Brentz and Cox are here (http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=2050).

DirtySox
04-02-2010, 08:31 PM
Nice to hear Jared Mitchell in the booth of the LSU/Georgia game. Wish I had noticed earlier.

Edit: Mentions that he might be playing in a fall league if recovery goes as planned.

DirtySox
04-03-2010, 11:25 AM
Texas/Oklahoma is on ESPNU at 2:00 CST today.

Brandon Workman is starting for Texas, and is likely a mid first rounder in the upcoming draft. A definite possibility for the White Sox at the 13th pick.

Other legitimate prospects include Cameron Rupp, Kevin Keyes, Cole Green, and Chance Ruffin. All Texas players. I doubt any of them sniff the first round, but they likely fall in a top 300.

DirtySox
04-03-2010, 02:56 PM
A testy game so far. Back to back homers from Texas, (one by Keyes), now Oklahoma has thrown behind a batter and plunked someone.

DirtySox
04-14-2010, 12:42 PM
Andy Seiler has posted a new mock draft (http://mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/04/14/mock-draft-4-first-round/).

Nutriaitch
04-19-2010, 11:59 AM
This Friday at 7:00pm (central time) on ESPNU
LSU vs Ole Miss

Should be Ranaudo vs Pomeranz

Ranaudo fanned 8 in 6 inning this past weekend.
5 hits, 3 earned, 3 walks.

DirtySox
04-23-2010, 09:54 AM
This Friday at 7:00pm (central time) on ESPNU
LSU vs Ole Miss

Should be Ranaudo vs Pomeranz


Wish I could see it. I have a final exam tonight from 6 to 9. :(:

Pomeranz has been lights out this year. His draft stock has gone way up. It's very likely he is taken 2, 3, or 4 if this keeps this up. I don't think he gets past Cleveland at 5.

Nutriaitch
04-23-2010, 04:48 PM
Pomeranz has been lights out this year. His draft stock has gone way up. It's very likely he is taken 2, 3, or 4 if this keeps this up. I don't think he gets past Cleveland at 5.

Hopefully we'll instill some doubt in the minds of the scouts.

Nutriaitch
04-24-2010, 09:56 AM
last night's game was rained out.
Double header today.

I'm gonna assume (nothing official) that Ranaudo and Pomeranz are gonna go at it in game 1 today.

3:00 on Sunshine network (DirecTv channel 649 if you catch it)

Nutriaitch
04-24-2010, 05:03 PM
not exactly a pitcher's duel between them

Ranaudo chased in the 2nd after giving up several homeruns.
30 mph wind blowing out carried almost every fly ball Ole Miss hit out of the park

Pomeranz gone with nobody out in the 4th after walking 9.

canOcorn
04-24-2010, 07:19 PM
not exactly a pitcher's duel between them

Ranaudo chased in the 2nd after giving up several homeruns.
30 mph wind blowing out carried almost every fly ball Ole Miss hit out of the park

Pomeranz gone with nobody out in the 4th after walking 9.

College seniors with little upside? Coop'ell fix 'em. :redneck


I'm just poking a little fun at our draft strategery from a couple of years ago. I know who these guys are and their lines don't represent their talent.

Nutriaitch
04-24-2010, 09:44 PM
I'm just poking a little fun at our draft strategery from a couple of years ago. I know who these guys are and their lines don't represent their talent.

I've seen a lot of Ranaudo. Dude is a stud.
He really wasn't off by much.
Wind was really whipping out, and all 3 homers he gave up barely cleared the wall. One actually looked like a foul pop heading out of play, but the wind blew it fair and carried it out.

Was my 1st chance to watch Pomeranz throw.
Was really disappointed he didn't have his stuff today.
A lot of 1st pitch balls, and he was seemingly 3-2 to every hitter.
LSU just put the bats on their shoulders, and he never really found his control. Gave up 4 (may have been 5), but only allowed 1 hit, a wind aided homer in the 1st.

UChicagoHP
04-26-2010, 08:56 PM
Brentz certainly has a beautiful swing/MLB-level bat speed. Certainly worthy of a 1st round pick on those attributes alone. If he has half-way decent pitch recognition, and the bat control to go with it, he will be a star. Sign him up Kenny! I think he goes top 10 though...

DirtySox
04-27-2010, 11:56 AM
Brentz certainly has a beautiful swing/MLB-level bat speed. Certainly worthy of a 1st round pick on those attributes alone. If he has half-way decent pitch recognition, and the bat control to go with it, he will be a star. Sign him up Kenny! I think he goes top 10 though...

I'm really not sure where Brentz goes at this point. I think the only questions are in his makeup and pitch recognition. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes early due to the lack of impact college bats, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he falls due to the amount of quality pitching that is available for early picks.

I really think that we are going to see Yasmani Grandal taken somewhat early this year. A high floor catcher is a very desirable commodity, and we have seen similar picks with Jason Castro in 2008 and Tony Sanchez in 2009. The Royals have been linked to him thus far this year.

DirtySox
04-27-2010, 11:57 AM
Andy Seiler's Mock Draft # 5 (http://www.mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/4/27/1446476/mock-draft-5-first-round)

canOcorn
04-27-2010, 12:25 PM
Andy Seiler's Mock Draft # 5 (http://www.mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/4/27/1446476/mock-draft-5-first-round)

Hopefully he's wrong about our pick.

DirtySox
04-27-2010, 12:38 PM
Hopefully he's wrong about our pick.

I'm not the biggest Wimmers fan especially if Cole is still on the board, but he's by no means a reach at 13. I wouldn't love the pick, but I wouldn't hate it.

Nutriaitch
04-27-2010, 10:43 PM
I'm not the biggest Wimmers fan especially if Cole is still on the board, but he's by no means a reach at 13. I wouldn't love the pick, but I wouldn't hate it.

don't know much about the kid, but I did watch his no-hitter last year against Michigan.

obviously way too small of a sample size, but he was on that day.

gogosox16
04-27-2010, 11:29 PM
Im not sure if any of you follow high school players getting scouted, but apparently a player at my high school who got a full ride to Creighton is being scouted for a possible 7-10th round pick, my friends on the team have said the Cubs are going the hardest after him but he refuses to ever play for them because hes born and raised in St. Louis and he said he would love to play for the Sox or Cardinals. Im not sure if anyone is good at finding information about kids like this but his name is Mike Gerber from Neuqua Valley

DirtySox
05-04-2010, 03:01 PM
Sickels 1st Mock Draft:

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/5/4/1457903/2010-mock-draft

Craig Grebeck
05-04-2010, 03:05 PM
Sickels 1st Mock Draft:

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/5/4/1457903/2010-mock-draft
DS, thoughts on Brentz?

102605
05-04-2010, 03:16 PM
DS, thoughts on Brentz?

He could be a masher! I like him.

DirtySox
05-04-2010, 03:26 PM
DS, thoughts on Brentz?

He's obviously a bat first prospect. Great hit tool with great power. Supposedly he has excellent bat speed and a very sound swing. Has shown good plate discipline in college. Unsure about his pitch recognition. He's a rather polished product and shouldn't need tons of minor league time I would imagine.

Position-wise Brentz is a corner OF with a great arm, but not the greatest range. Likely to be average to a tick above average as a defender.

There have been some mention of makeup issues, but that was earlier this year and I haven't heard much since. There have also been some minor injury concerns, but nothing too substantial. The biggest knock on him is that he hasn't lived up to last year's numbers and that the competition he's played against hasn't been the greatest.

Should be easily signed and for not that much money.

Nick Markakis is a frequent if lofty comp.

Randar68
05-04-2010, 03:32 PM
Sickels 1st Mock Draft:

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/5/4/1457903/2010-mock-draft

Honestly, with so many questions at C, P, corner IF in the organization, I find it hard to believe they will take another OFer unless a guy drops to them unexpectedly that they highly value but didn't think would be there.

I happen to think they'll go P at this time, but who knows? You take the best player at that spot, and it could be an OF'er I suppose. With Danks and Mitchell, I would probably look elsewhere unless I was convinced I could draft a sure-fire all-star corner OF'er there.

DirtySox
05-04-2010, 03:39 PM
Honestly, with so many questions at C, P, corner IF in the organization, I find it hard to believe they will take another OFer unless a guy drops to them unexpectedly that they highly value but didn't think would be there.

I happen to think they'll go P at this time, but who knows? You take the best player at that spot, and it could be an OF'er I suppose. With Danks and Mitchell, I would probably look elsewhere unless I was convinced I could draft a sure-fire all-star corner OF'er there.

As you said, it's wise to take the BPA.

I like Brentz, and middle of the first round is where he will likely be popped. He wouldn't be an overdraft really. He isn't the uber toolsy selection, but he has a decent enough ceiling that I would have no problem with the pick depending on who is still on the board.

I personally would love if Cole or Ranaudo fell to the Sox at 13. Both players stock have dropped a bit, so it's not out of the question. There were inklings they are leaning towards pitching, and this is a pitching heavy class for a system with little pitching. It's questionable if they would pony up for Cole, but I would stop complaining about the ****ty draft spending for a while if they did.

Randar68
05-04-2010, 03:42 PM
I personally would love if Cole or Ranaudo fell to the Sox at 13. Both players stock have dropped a bit, so it's not out of the question. There were inklings they are leaning towards pitching, and this is a pitching heavy class for a system with little pitching. It's questionable if they would pony up for Cole, but I would stop complaining about the ****ty draft spending for a while if they did.


Well, they don't have a glut of supplemental picks as in some years past, so only picking 13, 63, 95, and 114 before the start of the 4th round, I am hoping for some more aggressive drafting, but you never know what kinds of budgets the front office has set aside.

Jeff B
05-08-2010, 08:21 AM
FutureSox draft previews- High school hitters:
Part 1 (http://bit.ly/adehnC)
Part 2 (http://bit.ly/aWRjgz)

Sure, I may not be Andy Seiler, but at least it's free!

Seriously though, I echo DirtySox' recommendation of Andy's site. Lot's of great, free content and his draft notebook looks like an essential purchase for us draft nuts.

So who do people want the Sox to draft? I'm fully in the Austin Wilson corner (preview part 2). The guy's an absolute beast. I'm also a BIG Mike Foltynewicz fan (RHP from Minooka HS (IL)). Would love to get someone like him in the second round. Usually I'd prefer the college route, but I think the class is a little underwhelming this year.

That said, if Ranaudo (who had another poor outing yesterday) drops to 13 he would be pretty tough to pass up.

DirtySox
05-10-2010, 09:45 AM
Andy Seiler's Mock Draft # 6 (http://www.mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/5/10/1465572/mock-draft-6-first-round)

28 days until draft day. Expect some mocks from BA/BP relatively soon, as well as a more accurate look at the direction teams are leaning in regards to 1st round selections.

DirtySox
05-10-2010, 09:51 AM
FutureSox draft previews- High school hitters:
Part 1 (http://bit.ly/adehnC)
Part 2 (http://bit.ly/aWRjgz)

Sure, I may not be Andy Seiler, but at least it's free!

Seriously though, I echo DirtySox' recommendation of Andy's site. Lot's of great, free content and his draft notebook looks like an essential purchase for us draft nuts.

So who do people want the Sox to draft? I'm fully in the Austin Wilson corner (preview part 2). The guy's an absolute beast. I'm also a BIG Mike Foltynewicz fan (RHP from Minooka HS (IL)). Would love to get someone like him in the second round. Usually I'd prefer the college route, but I think the class is a little underwhelming this year.

That said, if Ranaudo (who had another poor outing yesterday) drops to 13 he would be pretty tough to pass up.

Thanks for the links. I frequent your site often.

Big fan of Austin Wilson as well. He has crazy upside, but at the same time a huge bust chance. I also really like Castellanos. It's unfortunate that both of those players are seeking big money with significant leverage. I have a feeling at least one of them will be picked up by Boston or NY.

I like Folty too, but I'm having a hard time pegging his draft slot. Do you think he could be taken in the supplemental round?

Jeff B
05-10-2010, 12:37 PM
Thanks for the links. I frequent your site often.

Big fan of Austin Wilson as well. He has crazy upside, but at the same time a huge bust chance. I also really like Castellanos. It's unfortunate that both of those players are seeking big money with significant leverage. I have a feeling at least one of them will be picked up by Boston or NY.

I like Folty too, but I'm having a hard time pegging his draft slot. Do you think he could be taken in the supplemental round?
Yeah I like Castellanos a lot too, higher floor than Austin Wilson but still a big time upside (Longoria minus the great glove type).

Consensus on Folty seems to be around the 45-55 range, which would be mid supplemental 1st to early 2nd round, but it wouldn't be a surprise to see him available at 63.

Speaking of Folty, high school pitchers part 1 is up, which includes Mike Foltynewicz, as well as Allie, Cole, Gausman and others
http://bit.ly/d14j1Q

DirtySox
05-13-2010, 02:18 PM
Sox Again Set to Target Pitching in the Draft (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/05/sox-again-set-to-target-pitching-in-amateur-draft.html)

Not much substance, but reaffirming what was said earlier this year.

JermaineDye05
05-13-2010, 02:31 PM
Sox Again Set to Target Pitching in the Draft (http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/05/sox-again-set-to-target-pitching-in-amateur-draft.html)

Not much substance, but reaffirming what was said earlier this year.

If this season really goes south and we wind up with a top 10 pick again for 2011, I'd really like to see the team target a position player as those appear to be disappearing. I still can't believe we lost Mitchell. I know he can recover but an injury to his legs is huge considering how much of a factor his speed was. The only positive to having another 2007 like season, is if we could find ourselves with a solid infield/outfield prospect, unless a Tim Lincecum/Stephen Strasburg like pitcher falls into our lap.

DirtySox
05-13-2010, 02:45 PM
If this season really goes south and we wind up with a top 10 pick again for 2011, I'd really like to see the team target a position player as those appear to be disappearing. I still can't believe we lost Mitchell. I know he can recover but an injury to his legs is huge considering how much of a factor his speed was. The only positive to having another 2007 like season, is if we could find ourselves with a solid infield/outfield prospect, unless a Tim Lincecum/Stephen Strasburg like pitcher falls into our lap.

The 2011 class is going to be very strong. The pitching is stacked. The position prospects are more unclear aside from 3B Anthony Rendon, who is amazing and is very likely to go number 1.

And as far as pitching versus position prospects in the White Sox system, their is a lack of depth everywhere as you you've noticed. The pitching deficiencies are just much more glaring at this point. The only spot with reasonable depth is somewhat the OF. Jordan Danks/Jared Mitchell/Trayce Thompson, but all 3 are still very unproven. (and I don't care for Jordan much at all aside from his D)

sox1970
05-13-2010, 02:48 PM
The 2011 class is going to be very strong. The pitching is stacked. The position prospects are more unclear aside from 3B Anthony Rendon, who is amazing and is very likely to go number 1.

Cool. Let's go to KC and get swept.

DirtySox
05-13-2010, 02:55 PM
Cool. Let's go to KC and get swept.

:thumbsup:

Seriously though, a few names to remember for 2011:

-Gerrit Cole
-Taylor Jungmann
-Anthony Rendon
-Zach Cone
-Jack Armstrong
-Sonny Gray
-Matt Purke
-Alex Meyer

I'm looking forward to it.

JermaineDye05
05-13-2010, 03:36 PM
:thumbsup:

Seriously though, a few names to remember for 2011:

-Gerrit Cole
-Taylor Jungmann
-Anthony Rendon
-Zach Cone
-Jack Armstrong
-Sonny Gray
-Matt Purke
-Alex Meyer

I'm looking forward to it.

I love the Sox, but if the class is really as good as you say, then I hope IF the Sox do wind up losing the division/wild card that they somehow wind-up in the bottom 3rd of the pack. No sense in losing a division if you're not getting anything back for it. It's especially important since we could be seeing some players walk this offseason.

DirtySox
05-14-2010, 04:29 PM
Baseball America has the Sox taking Josh Sale in its latest (first?) mock draft. An interesting choice. Not sure the reasoning as I'm too poor to access beyond the pay wall.

Jeff B
05-15-2010, 10:59 AM
Baseball America has the Sox taking Josh Sale in its latest (first?) mock draft. An interesting choice. Not sure the reasoning as I'm too poor to access beyond the pay wall.
There was no reasoning really, just that Sale or Brentz would be "especially dangerous" hitting in the Cell. He then goes on to say that they're looking at college pitchers and lists some healthy college arms that should be available at 13.

DirtySox
05-15-2010, 11:44 AM
He then goes on to say that they're looking at college pitchers and lists some healthy college arms that should be available at 13.

Sounds about what I'm expecting. Really think we end up with Wimmers if his injury concerns are out of the picture.

DirtySox
05-17-2010, 12:49 PM
Mayo on Ranaudo and Pomeranz concerns:

http://minors.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/05/what_on_earth_is_going_on_with.html

DirtySox
05-19-2010, 12:25 PM
A decent Jim Callis Draft Q&A with some general questions and answers about this year's draft class:

http://www.collegesplits.com/blog/20100519-draft-qa-with-jim-ca.html

DirtySox
05-19-2010, 12:36 PM
JonathanMayoB3 (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3)
As advertised, my first crack at the top 10 picks for this year's s #mlbdraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft). Next week, picks 1-20. http://tinyurl.com/37ajbca

DirtySox
05-19-2010, 12:54 PM
As indicated by Mayo's top 10 mock and other publications, stock is rapidly changing for some players. Vitek/Allie/Grandal/Harvey are rising. Pomeranz/Ranaudo/Cole have been trending downwards.

Scouts are very worried about Ranaudo and his injury issues. Couple that with Boras representation and a likely overslot demand, and he might fall out of the first round completely. Baseball America noted as such in a recent mailbag. I think it's most likely hes a mid to late 1st round pick depending on how performs in his final few appearances though.

DirtySox
05-21-2010, 10:58 AM
If you need something to watch before the Sox/Hawks games tonight, consider tuning in to Big Ten Network at 6. Alex Wimmers is returning to the mound for Ohio St and is a legitimate 1st round pick. I would peg him going middle of the 1st. He is a reasonable consideration for the White Sox at 13. Wimmers isn't 100% though, and has been dealing with a hamstring injury.

Scouting Reports on Wimmers:

http://pnrscouting.com/scoutingreports_2010_wimmersal.html

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7177795&topic_id=8080130

He's what most people would consider a safe pick. He doesn't have a huge arm and overwhelming stuff, but he knows how to pitch and gets the most out of what he has. He kind of reminds me of Mike Leake in that manner. Jonathan Mayo and many scouts believe he will be one of, if not the first player from the 2010 draft to reach the majors.


Another interesting name on Minnesota's squad is Michael Kvasnicka. He's a converted outfielder who is splitting time catching. A switch hitter with average power, who has a pretty good grasp of the strike zone. He has decent speed and will be one of the more athletic catchers if he sticks there. He has an above average arm but is pretty raw behind the plate. He's no sure bet to remain at the position. Kvasnicka is considered a 2nd round talent.

A Sickels blurb here:

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/5/3/1456083/interesting-college-hitters-part

DirtySox
05-22-2010, 10:24 PM
Continued mention of the White Sox desire for college pitching with the 1st pick. No surprises here.

jimcallisBA (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA)
I hear college P on Chisox, but Choice would be nice get. @chisox2691 (http://twitter.com/chisox2691): If Choice falls to the White Sox at 13, do they take him? #mlbdraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft) 6 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/14532600117) via HootSuite (http://www.hootsuite.com/)

DirtySox
05-24-2010, 09:41 AM
2 weeks until the draft.

Andy Seiler - Mock Draft # 7 (http://www.mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/5/24/1484908/mock-draft-7-first-round)

Ditka v. God
05-24-2010, 05:23 PM
Austin Wilson's stock is dropping like a stone! Anyone know why he's been falling recently?

I'm really tired of the safe college arms we've picking in the first round in the past (McCulloch, Ring, etc.), this year we should pick someone younger and a little more raw but with a higher upside. I wouldn't mind seeing us take Kaleb Cowart, he could develop as a front of the rotation type guy on the mound or a masher at third.

Hopefully we'll go into this year's draft keeping an eye on the future of the organization, not just the "win now" mentality.

DirtySox
05-24-2010, 05:27 PM
Austin Wilson's stock is dropping like a stone! Anyone know why he's been falling recently?

I'm really tired of the safe college arms we've picking in the first round in the past (McCulloch, Ring, etc.), this year we should pick someone younger and a little more raw but with a higher upside. I wouldn't mind seeing us take Kaleb Cowart, he could develop as a front of the rotation type guy on the mound or a masher at third.

Hopefully we'll go into this year's draft keeping an eye on the future of the organization, not just the "win now" mentality.

Pitch recognition is big concern currently. He also has a Stanford commit and is seeking a significant amount of money. Big leverage. He might drop out of the 1st round entirely. I suspect he's taken by Boston or New York.

Preaching to the choir about draft philosophy. Unfortunately all signs/sources/publications/leaks have the Sox linked to college arms that would take slot. I would be stunned if they take anything else.

DirtySox
05-24-2010, 05:28 PM
Keith Law's first mock draft has the White Sox selecting Asher Wojciechowski. College arm, cheap, etc.

Ditka v. God
05-24-2010, 06:09 PM
Pitch recognition is big concern currently. He also has a Stanford commit and is seeking a significant amount of money. Big leverage. He might drop out of the 1st round entirely. I suspect he's taken by Boston or New York.

:puking:

Keith Law's first mock draft has the White Sox selecting Asher Wojciechowski. College arm, cheap, etc.

:puking::puking:

The front office's strategy towards pitching puzzles me; they refuse to sign pitchers to 3+ year contracts due to the injury risk, yet they insist on drafting college pitchers that have already racked up a ton of mileage on their arms already and are at a higher risk of injury.

I thought their approach last year was great, draft a high-risk/high-reward talent in the first few rounds, then target those safer college arms in the mid-rounds. (Hopps, Buch, Bellamy) I hope they take a similar approach this year.

DirtySox
05-25-2010, 12:49 PM
Supposedly the Reds are very much in on Wimmers. It's been noted by a few sources recently. If true, I'm thinking the Sox are going to take a long look at Workman.

FrankiePiliere (http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere)
Lots of buzz from what I'm hearing about Alex Wimmers to the #Reds (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Reds) at 12th overall #MLBDraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft) 7 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere/status/14707490654) via web

DirtySox
05-25-2010, 03:48 PM
FrankiePiliere (http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere)
#White (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23White) Sox are said to be on Nick Castellanos for the 13th overall pick #MLBDraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft)

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I love Castellanos. Probably my favorite prep bat in the draft excluding Harper.

A pick like this would provide strong evidence that the draft philosophy has indeed changed.

cws05champ
05-25-2010, 04:04 PM
FrankiePiliere (http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere)
#White (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23White) Sox are said to be on Nick Castellanos for the 13th overall pick #MLBDraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft)

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I love Castellanos. Probably my favorite prep bat in the draft excluding Harper.

A pick like this would provide strong evidence that the draft philosophy has indeed changed.
That would be sweet....I would be surprised if they took him though.

DirtySox
05-25-2010, 04:09 PM
That would be sweet....I would be surprised if they took him though.

Indeed. A little hope is better than none though. I'm just not all that enthusiastic about the college pitchers that are going to be available at 13. Wimmers/Workman/Asher/Hahn. The only reasonable names that might be available that I'm a fan of are McGuire, Ranaudo, and Harvey. Some of the prep pitchers are interesting though.

DirtySox
05-25-2010, 05:25 PM
BA's Draft Top 200 (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610039.html) is up.

Ditka v. God
05-25-2010, 06:00 PM
FrankiePiliere (http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere)
#White (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23White) Sox are said to be on Nick Castellanos for the 13th overall pick #MLBDraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft)

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I love Castellanos. Probably my favorite prep bat in the draft excluding Harper.

A pick like this would provide strong evidence that the draft philosophy has indeed changed.

Dear Lord let this be true, we need some power bats at the corner infield spots. Gilmore, Marrero and Loman just ain't gonna cut it. Bring on the mashers!

Ditka v. God
05-25-2010, 06:09 PM
BA's Draft Top 200 (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610039.html) is up.

Thanks for the link, one name that really intrigues me on this list is #191 Hayden Simpson, RHP Southern Arkansas.

He's been absolutely filthy the last two years including throwing a no-hitter last year and piling up 131K over 99IP with a 3.7K/BB ratio and a 1.81 ERA this year. He's a little undersized, throws a mid-90s fastball and plays for a D-2 team so not many people are that high on him, but I wouldn't seeing us take a shot on him rounds 5-10. He definitely qualifies as a cheap college arm.

DirtySox
05-26-2010, 09:56 AM
Piliere's 1st Full Mock Draft (http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/05/26/mlb-mock-draft-2-0-the-full-first-round/?sms_ss=twitter)

I like both Castellanos and Sale. Not so much Brentz though.

DirtySox
05-26-2010, 11:02 AM
Mayo's Updated 1 - 20 (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100526&content_id=10448720&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)

DirtySox
05-26-2010, 11:22 AM
Unsure if this has been posted, but Jared Mitchell and Mike Huff will be representing the White Sox at this year's draft.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100525&content_id=10408350&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

JermaineDye05
05-26-2010, 05:40 PM
Unsure if this has been posted, but Jared Mitchell and Mike Huff will be representing the White Sox at this year's draft.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100525&content_id=10408350&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

Too bad he won't be representing the Sox in the futures game this year. With what he showed in ST, I wouldn't have been surprised to see him there if he hadn't gotten injured.

DirtySox
05-28-2010, 04:03 PM
Jim Callis' Mock Draft 2.0 (http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=2199)

SephClone89
05-28-2010, 08:54 PM
ISU is in the MVC title game at 1:30 tomorrow on CSN Chicago and Fox Sports Midwest. Go you Redbirds!

Ditka v. God
05-29-2010, 03:35 PM
Rico Noel (http://www.goccusports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/noel_rico00.html) has been a guy I've kept my eye on for a couple of years. Fast, makes good contact and knows how to get on-base. Could be an interesting lead-off possibility available in the later rounds.

Here's a local news feature on him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XENsf45aSzI

2010 stats: http://www.goccusports.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2009-2010/teamcume.html

(Also, their catcher, Jose Iglesias, (http://www.goccusports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/iglesias_jose00.html) is someone to watch; 6-5 catcher with a good eye at the plate.)

DirtySox
05-31-2010, 11:15 AM
Piliere's Mock Draft 3.0 (http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/05/31/mock-draft-3-0-first-round-update/?sms_ss=twitter)

I would hate this pick. I've done a complete 180 on Brentz. Odd that he speculates Castellanos/Sale not in play anymore. Same with Wimmers, who I've grown to like.

cards press box
05-31-2010, 01:03 PM
Unsure if this has been posted, but Jared Mitchell and Mike Huff will be representing the White Sox at this year's draft.

Any word on Mitchell's rehab? I hope he is doing well.

DirtySox
05-31-2010, 01:10 PM
Any word on Mitchell's rehab? I hope he is doing well.

There was a recent article about him. He is ahead of schedule supposedly, and will likely participate in an instructional league this fall.

DirtySox
05-31-2010, 09:02 PM
Ready to overdraft Ozney Guillen?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0601-white-sox-chicago--20100531,0,6114163.story

102605
05-31-2010, 09:07 PM
Piliere's Mock Draft 3.0 (http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/05/31/mock-draft-3-0-first-round-update/?sms_ss=twitter)

I would hate this pick. I've done a complete 180 on Brentz. Odd that he speculates Castellanos/Sale not in play anymore. Same with Wimmers, who I've grown to like.

Why the hate? He seems like a pretty darn good hitter. Would you rather they take a "safe" college arm? Brentz might end up being a nice corner OF bat.

Just because a few scouts don't like him lately?

DirtySox
05-31-2010, 09:15 PM
Why the hate? He seems like a pretty darn good hitter. Would you rather they take a "safe" college arm? Brentz might end up being a nice corner OF bat.

There seems to be many more questions about Brentz now than earlier this year. The comments/reports I read about Brentz a few months back compared to now are drastically different. I'm not a scouting expert by any means, I just read and gather as much information as a I can. Earlier this year there were Markakis comps being thrown about, noting him as being able to hit for both power and average with good (not great) corner OF defense.

Most currently I've seen a few Francoeur comparisons, wonders about his plate discipline, swing, makeup, and projections as a .250-260 hitter with 20 - 25 HR power. I guess "hating" the pick might be a reach, but there are better options in my opinion.

I would much rather have a Michael Choice, Alex Wimmers, Deck McGuire etc. I think Wimmers is vastly underrated. Good fastball, plus changeup, plus curve, and good command. I don't particularly love any of the options that are likely going to be available at 13 (this is a weak draft class), but I wouldn't be upset over Wimmers considering the complete and utter lack of pitching in the system.

JermaineDye05
05-31-2010, 10:41 PM
Ready to overdraft Ozney Guillen?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0601-white-sox-chicago--20100531,0,6114163.story

I thought we already overdrafted him...

Unless that was Oney or I'm thinking of KW Jr.

DirtySox
05-31-2010, 10:43 PM
I thought we already overdrafted him...

Unless that was Oney or I'm thinking of KW Jr.

Both were a waste of a pick.

To be fair, I believe Ozney is a better prospect, but not by much. It's difficult to find scouting information on him. Callis responded to me on Twitter a few weeks back saying that he isn't highly regarded, similar to Oney's prospect status.

DirtySox
05-31-2010, 11:30 PM
Good piece on FutureSox about some recent mocks and rumors:

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/future-sox/2010/05/draft-rumors-and-mock-selections.html#more

I would tend to agree on many of the assertions. I think Wojo is an intriguing arm, but he would be an over draft at 13. I like Eibner a bit more than Asher, but still not at 13. Wimmers and Workman are very real possibilities, though I like Wimmers a tiny bit more. Deck McGuire would seemingly be the ideal fit if he drops and I would be very happy with such a pick.

EMachine10
06-01-2010, 08:03 AM
Good piece on FutureSox about some recent mocks and rumors:

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/future-sox/2010/05/draft-rumors-and-mock-selections.html#more

I would tend to agree on many of the assertions. I think Wojo is an intriguing arm, but he would be an over draft at 13. I like Eibner a bit more than Asher, but still not at 13. Wimmers and Workman are very real possibilities, though I like Wimmers a tiny bit more. Deck McGuire would seemingly be the ideal fit if he drops and I would be very happy with such a pick.
Law has the Sox taking McGuire in his 2.0 Mock.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2010/insider/news/story?id=5235926

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DirtySox
06-02-2010, 12:11 PM
Piliere's draft chat is going on if anyone has any questions.

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/02/mlb-liv...?sms_ss=twitter (http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/02/mlb-live-chat-draft-day-approaches/?sms_ss=twitter)

102605
06-02-2010, 01:34 PM
Piliere's draft chat is going on if anyone has any questions.

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/02/mlb-liv...?sms_ss=twitter

I still hope we take Brentz. :tongue:

2:17
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Do you think Bryce Brentz could outperform his Markakis ceiling? Are the recent scouts who don't like his plate disapline possibly overreacting? Wednesday June 2, 2010 2:17 Shaun

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Frankie Piliere:
I've heard Ryan Braun ceiling so yes I think he could. It comes down to nitpicking this time of year though so any weaknesses a play has are going to be pulled apart and dissected.

DirtySox
06-02-2010, 01:37 PM
I still hope we take Brentz. :tongue:

Hah. No worries. If they do, I'll be cautiously optimistic. I think he's better than what I've been giving him credit for as of late. The Francoeur comparisons made my blood run cold though.

102605
06-02-2010, 01:40 PM
The Francoeur comparisons made my blood run cold though.

Yeah no kidding! We don't need any part of that.

DirtySox
06-02-2010, 01:44 PM
Some interesting comments if you don't feel like wading through draft minutia:

[Comment From Eric: ]
You mentioned that you've heard the White Sox don't believe McGuire will be available at 13. Have you heard who they are targeting with that pick?

Frankie Piliere:
They have 7-8 names they are still considering. There is a Scott Boras client on their list, that much I can confirm. But I cannot confirm which one, but my educated guess would be Harvey. So, we can't totally rule out a Boras guy at least. Brentz and Kvasnicka top their list of hitters. Yordy Cabrera on the HS side is on their short list. And they'll consider college arms like Wojciechowski, Workman.




[Comment From Jeff B: ]
I've heard that McGuire's stock is dropping a bit. Any chances he's around at 13 for the Chi Sox?

Frankie Piliere:
Timely question. I read that as well but checked into it and found out two things. A. If he falls to the White Sox, they would not take McGuire and B. They are certain he will not be around at 13 and still expect him to go top 10. I never like to say I'm "very confident" about draft buzz but I feel very comfortable saying he'll be gone ahead of Chicago and they wouldn't take him regardless.

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The fact that a Boras client is on the list is rather encouraging. Harvey does indeed make the most sense with the Sox desire for college pitching. He is one of the few college arms I really like. He has the highest ceiling of the college pitchers that will be available around 13 (aside from maybe Ranaudo). There is a decent chance he ends up a reliever though. Yordy Cabrera would be interesting in that he is a high schooler, but I'm not sold on his tools other than the power. He could be considered an overdraft at 13. Kvasnicka is an intriguing name, but again would likely be considered an overdraft. Switch hitting catchers are valuable, but there are questions if he can remain behind the plate, and if he will be able to hit at the next level. Not being in on McGuire is somewhat disturbing. I think he's a top 10 talent and would be a steal if he falls.

DirtySox
06-02-2010, 02:20 PM
New Mayo mock:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100602&content_id=10713530&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

DirtySox
06-02-2010, 02:51 PM
This thread needs more participation. :(:

DirtySox
06-02-2010, 03:12 PM
Seiler's Mock # 8:

http://www.mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/6/2/1498078/mock-draft-8-first-round

Workman.

seventyseven
06-02-2010, 03:15 PM
Given the Sox track record drafting and developing their own prospects over the last 15 years, I can confidently say I don't care who the heck we draft. I'll care once they get in a big league uniform.

khan
06-02-2010, 03:43 PM
This thread needs more participation. :(:
OK, here are my thoughts:

1. It doesn't really matter what the "mock drafts" predict, because the SOX will always go for the safe, nondescript college player [usually a pitcher] who is easy to sign. Being able to actually PLAY the game is far less important.

2. The SOX will continue to make the same stupid errors in drafting bags of **** in the early rounds, easy signers in the mid rounds, and relatives of FO personnel in the mid-to-late rounds of drafts.

3. The whole hoopla about Buddy Bell and his merry men of coaches was high bull****. The same types of incomplete players will continue to be produced by this crappy system. [See Morel's inability to improve his walk rate and/or his power numbers, yet he still was promoted as yet the LATEST example of this.]

4. The organization will continue to underspend on signing and developing youngsters, which will lead to even MORE Kotsays, Mackowiacs, Erstads, and Vizquels in the SOX roster in 2011 and beyond. Since the minor league system won't produce much, and KW is HELL-BENT on trading away anything else of value, the FA dumpster-diving will continue. There are traditions, and there are White Sox Traditions.

5. And remember when you're reading the "mock drafts:" KW LOVES ex-FOOTBALL players. Whoever they predict for the draft, if the kid isn't an ex-football player, KW won't draft him.

Drafting ex-football players validates KW's putrid career in baseball, and enables him to live vicariously through other ex-football players.

DirtySox
06-02-2010, 03:48 PM
o. thx.

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Jeff B
06-02-2010, 04:00 PM
The fact that a Boras client is on the list is rather encouraging. Harvey does indeed make the most sense with the Sox desire for college pitching. He is one of the few college arms I really like. He has the highest ceiling of the college pitchers that will be available around 13 (aside from maybe Ranaudo). There is a decent chance he ends up a reliever though. Yordy Cabrera would be interesting in that he is a high schooler, but I'm not sold on his tools other than the power. He could be considered an overdraft at 13. Kvasnicka is an intriguing name, but again would likely be considered an overdraft. Switch hitting catchers are valuable, but there are questions if he can remain behind the plate, and if he will be able to hit at the next level. Not being in on McGuire is somewhat disturbing. I think he's a top 10 talent and would be a steal if he falls.
If true it's a pretty interesting note. It could mean (and perhaps I'm reading too much into it), but it could mean that they are just not looking at any of these "safe" college pitchers at all and they have their sights set on someone like a Harvey which would fit with the recent draft direction. It could also be that there's just something about McGuire that they dislike.
It could also be untrue (a la the Castellanos "interest"), or it could be misdirection, smokescreen, whatever you want to call it.

That is part of why I love the draft though. So much to think about, so many scraps of information to over-analyze.

DirtySox
06-02-2010, 04:04 PM
If true it's a pretty interesting note. It could mean (and perhaps I'm reading too much into it), but it could mean that they are just not looking at any of these "safe" college pitchers at all and they have their sights set on someone like a Harvey which would fit with the recent draft direction. It could also be that there's just something about McGuire that they dislike.
It could also be untrue (a la the Castellanos "interest"), or it could be misdirection, smokescreen, whatever you want to call it.

That is part of why I love the draft though. So much to think about, so many scraps of information to over-analyze.

That's how I took it as well. I don't like overly safe picks, but there is something to be said for a bit of "safety" and polish if you are picking relatively early. Especially if upper end talent falls. It's much easier to pick based on tools and a high ceiling in the back of the 1st round.

The potential interest in Harvey, Wojo, Loux, and Workman backs up a high upside theory despite all being college arms. So does the speculation that the Sox aren't in on Wimmers at all.

Ditka v. God
06-02-2010, 06:53 PM
Information overload today, it's like everyone had their deadline on the same day!

So the consensus is that we're going with a college arm again. Brilliant! Visionary!

We're picking in the top 15 for the second time in a while, this isn't the position to be "safe" in my opinion. IMHO, this is a perfect place to grab someone that squeaks out of the top 10, of course spending then becomes the issue and we all know where that leads. Why not Castellanos or Yordy Cabrera? They're riskier picks, but we need some bats with high upside on the power end.

It's also amazing to see the direction the first round in these mock drafts has gone. Early on it seemed there were a lot more prep prospects up and down the first round, more recently the college players have come to dominate the first round. Are these prep guys sensing how weak this year's draft class is and would rather take their chances three years from now?

canOcorn
06-02-2010, 07:44 PM
That's how I took it as well. I don't like overly safe picks, but there is something to be said for a bit of "safety" and polish if you are picking relatively early. Especially if upper end talent falls. It's much easier to pick based on tools and a high ceiling in the back of the 1st round.

The potential interest in Harvey, Wojo, Loux, and Workman backs up a high upside theory despite all being college arms. So does the speculation that the Sox aren't in on Wimmers at all.

I don't see the upside in Workman, Loux or Wojo. I see upside in Harvey, but that's going to be a major project. I'd prefer Covey or Whitson over any college arm that would be available to us (I doubt Deck falls to us).

Pablo_Honey
06-02-2010, 08:03 PM
So the consensus is that we're going with a college arm again. Brilliant! Visionary!
There is nothing wrong with drafting a college arm but I understand where you are coming from. After getting a lot of flack for making two serious overdrafts in Broadway and McCulloch, the Sox brass has tried to fool us into believing they are going in the right direction by drafting guys with higher upsides than the aforementioned two (which really isn't saying much by the way); nevertheless, we are still overdrafting with college players and getting them to sign at slot.

Having said that, it was made clear after the 2009 draft that the Sox wanted to stock up on pitching in this year's draft and the draft class of 2010 is heavy on college arms, hence the college arm pick at #13. The farmsystem could use some depth in every area but since you can never have too much pitching, might as well go with that. I am at least relieved to hear that Sox are not too interested in Wimmers, a pick reminiscent of the McCulloch-Broadway era albeit with more polish and upside. Some of the names mentioned like Harvey and Workman are actually rather promising since they are good power arms from what I hear.

You mentioned Castellanos and I agree that it's disappointing that the Sox are seemingly not interested in him. He looks like a real stud but in all fairness to the Sox brass, third base is a position where I feel we don't need immediate replenishment. We have Morel making his way up, Viciedo could make his way back to third base if needed (Let's hope not) and there's Gilmore who is really raw but nevertheless a former sandwich pick. So, all in all, I wouldn't throw a hissy fit if we draft a high upside college arm and not Castellanos.

DirtySox
06-02-2010, 08:12 PM
There is nothing wrong with drafting a college arm but I understand where you are coming from. After getting a lot of flack for making two serious overdrafts in Broadway and McCulloch, the Sox brass has tried to fool us into believing they are going in the right direction by drafting guys with higher upsides than the aforementioned two (which really isn't saying much by the way); nevertheless, we are still overdrafting with college players and getting them to sign at slot.

Having said that, it was made clear after the 2009 draft that the Sox wanted to stock up on pitching in this year's draft and the draft class of 2010 is heavy on college arms, hence the college arm pick at #13. The farmsystem could use some depth in every area but since you can never have too much pitching, might as well go with that. I am at least relieved to hear that Sox are not too interested in Wimmers, a pick reminiscent of the McCulloch-Broadway era albeit with more polish and upside. Some of the names mentioned like Harvey and Workman are actually rather promising since they are good power arms from what I hear.

You mentioned Castellanos and I agree that it's disappointing that the Sox are seemingly not interested in him. He looks like a real stud but in all fairness to the Sox brass, third base is a position where I feel we don't need immediate replenishment. We have Morel making his way up, Viciedo could make his way back to third base if needed (Let's hope not) and there's Gilmore who is really raw but nevertheless a former sandwich pick. So, all in all, I wouldn't throw a hissy fit if we draft a high upside college arm and not Castellanos.

Good post. I have no problem with them drafting pitching. It is very much needed. There really isn't a single starting pitching prospect to get remotely excited about aside from Hudson in the Sox system. While I would love for the Sox to nab an Allie/Whitson/Cole/Covey, it isn't going to happen. The aforementioned Wojo/Loux/Workman/Harvey/Eibner all have varying degrees of upside. The question is which of those pitchers upsides/ceilings are worthy of pick 13?

EMachine10
06-02-2010, 08:43 PM
Our farm system really needs some pitching, but college arms always seem to be underwhelming unless you're grabbing the first one or two. Of course, guys like Hudson pop up, but there seems to be a lot of Kyle McCullochs floating around.

Ditka v. God
06-02-2010, 10:06 PM
Having said that, it was made clear after the 2009 draft that the Sox wanted to stock up on pitching in this year's draft and the draft class of 2010 is heavy on college arms, hence the college arm pick at #13. The farmsystem could use some depth in every area but since you can never have too much pitching, might as well go with that. I am at least relieved to hear that Sox are not too interested in Wimmers, a pick reminiscent of the McCulloch-Broadway era albeit with more polish and upside. Some of the names mentioned like Harvey and Workman are actually rather promising since they are good power arms from what I hear.

You mentioned Castellanos and I agree that it's disappointing that the Sox are seemingly not interested in him. He looks like a real stud but in all fairness to the Sox brass, third base is a position where I feel we don't need immediate replenishment. We have Morel making his way up, Viciedo could make his way back to third base if needed (Let's hope not) and there's Gilmore who is really raw but nevertheless a former sandwich pick. So, all in all, I wouldn't throw a hissy fit if we draft a high upside college arm and not Castellanos.

I completely agree, the pitching depth in our system is thin at the higher levels beyond Hudson, Shirek and maybe Torres.

I guess I just disagree with the organization's urgency to fill out the pitching depth. We've got some pretty good arms in Winston-Salem that could potentially contribute on the big league level, Remenowsky, Bellamy, Infante, Doyle and Nevin Griffith who has a lot of potential even after TJ surgery. We've got to get out of that "win now" mind-set and except the reality that we're in for a few years of rebuilding before we're legitimate contenders. Patience, my young padawan.

I think we have a more pressing need for some power bats than pitching at this point. Beyond Flowers and Viciedo, who else could really hit 30+ HRs at the big league level? I think taking Castellanos, Sale or some other prep power bat would really address that weakness.

Harry Chappas
06-04-2010, 10:22 AM
For the draftniks and farm system followers, I have a few questions...

Are there any "sleepers" in the lower-levels that could surprise in the future? I know about Viciedo, Flowers, Hudson, Danks, and Morel, but is there anyone you're excited about?

What are the Sox next few picks after #13?

Lastly, what are some good sites for information on potential draftees?

Thanks in advance.

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 10:49 AM
For the draftniks and farm system followers, I have a few questions...

Are there any "sleepers" in the lower-levels that could surprise in the future? I know about Viciedo, Flowers, Hudson, Danks, and Morel, but is there anyone you're excited about?

What are the Sox next few picks after #13?

Lastly, what are some good sites for information on potential draftees?

Thanks in advance.

There really aren't too many sleepers in the system in my opinion. I find some people grasping at prospects who seem very mediocre to me, likely due to how weak the farm is. People will mention Brandon Short, Jon Gilmore, Eduardo Escobar, etc but they are all very fringy in my eyes. I'm sure other people will weigh in, but I like C Miguel Gonzalez in Kanny, RP Kyle Bellamy in Winston-Salem, and RP Dan Remenowsky also in Winston-Salem. Not much else piques my interest. I am looking forward to seeing Holmberg's performance when rookie ball starts though.

As far as draft information, if you just want to get some basic information on players, this will do fine:

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130

There is a drop down list above the video display where you can get a snapshot of most 1st round to supplemental/2nd round talents. It offers video and accompanying text about whatever prospect you choose. It isn't super in depth, but it is a great place to start.

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 11:00 AM
Sickels Final Mock:

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/6/4/1500248/final-mock-draft

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 11:06 AM
Mayo Chat today at 12 CT if anyone has questions.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/fan_forum/chat/index.jsp

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 11:16 AM
First round candidate and potential White Sox pick Barret Loux is currently pitching for Texas A&M on ESPNU. Lots of college baseball on this weekend.

GAsoxfan
06-04-2010, 11:17 AM
There really aren't too many sleepers in the system in my opinion. I find some people grasping at prospects who seem very mediocre to me, likely due to how weak the farm is. People will mention Brandon Short, Jon Gilmore, Eduardo Escobar, etc but they are all very fringy in my eyes. I'm sure other people will weigh in, but I like C Miguel Gonzalez in Kanny, RP Kyle Bellamy in Winston-Salem, and RP Dan Remenowsky also in Winston-Salem. Not much else piques my interest. I am looking forward to seeing Holmberg's performance when rookie ball starts though.

As far as draft information, if you just want to get some basic information on players, this will do fine:

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130

There is a drop down list above the video display where you can get a snapshot of most 1st round to supplemental/2nd round talents. It offers video and accompanying text about whatever prospect you choose. It isn't super in depth, but it is a great place to start.

Another guy who may not be a "sleeper", but most Sox fans probably haven't heard of him is Trayce Thompson (OF at Kannapolis). Similar to Mitchell in that he has a lot of tools, but is very raw.

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 11:18 AM
Keith Law's latest mock has the White Sox taking Wojo. Insider only. (Asher Wojciechowski for the uninformed)

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 11:20 AM
Another guy who may not be a "sleeper", but most Sox fans probably haven't heard of him is Trayce Thompson (OF at Kannapolis). Similar to Mitchell in that he has a lot of tools, but is very raw.

Indeed. I didn't list him because I don't think he's a sleeper anymore. I love the guy. The Jared Mitchell comparison is quite apt. Tons of tools, huge upside, needs plenty of reps though since he's somewhat new to baseball. It's unfortunate about the current injury.

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 11:26 AM
At 3 CT, one can catch the second best catching prospect Yasmani Grandal in Miami versus Dartmouth. He's probably my favorite college position player. He was a possibility for the Sox in past mocks if he fell, but current reports have him seeking a huge overslot bonus which is unfortunate.

GAsoxfan
06-04-2010, 11:26 AM
Do you think Bellamy will be promoted again this year? He's killing high-A.

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 11:28 AM
Do you think Bellamy will be promoted again this year? He's killing high-A.

I think so. He's a fast track candidate for sure. It would give me a reason to check Birmingham box scores.

GAsoxfan
06-04-2010, 11:32 AM
I think so. He's a fast track candidate for sure. It would give me a reason to check Birmingham box scores.

Given how bad Birmingham is, they should just swap rosters with Kanny (with a couple exceptions).

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 11:32 AM
Law also mentions that Castellanos is the only non college pitcher that the Sox are in on. I really like him, but I would be shocked if that was the Sox pick.

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 11:33 AM
Given how bad Birmingham is, they should just swap rosters with Kanny (with a couple exceptions).

Justin Greene is long overdue for a promotion as well. Fringy prospect but he's somewhat noteworthy.

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 12:02 PM
The final college game tonight at 9 CT on ESPNU, is probably the most interesting from a draft/prospect standpoint. Minnesota versus Cal St. Fullerton.

On the Gophers side, there is C/OF Mike Kvasnicka who the Sox (and many others teams) have been linked to in the 1st round, and SP Seth Rosin who isn't a 1st round talent, but would fall in the top 200.

Cal St. Fullerton has 1st round SS talent Christian Colon, and likely 1st/supplemental/2nd round CF Gary Brown. I'm not on the Gary Brown bandwagon, but he has many tools and is very interesting.

Ditka v. God
06-04-2010, 12:29 PM
Are there any "sleepers" in the lower-levels that could surprise in the future? I know about Viciedo, Flowers, Hudson, Danks, and Morel, but is there anyone you're excited about?

DirtySox hit the nail on the head with his assessment of the farm system, pretty thin besides a few fringy prospects in the lower levels.

One name I like as a potential sleeper is Nevin Griffith (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=518746), a former 2nd round pick out of high school, finally getting over TJ surgery in 2008 and looks like he's regaining his confidence. I've listened to few of his starts on the internet, he can work himself out of jams and is confident in throwing his off-speed stuff in any count, this might lead to his higher walk rate but it also shows that he's mentally tough too. The W-S announcer always raves about Nevin's work ethic as well.

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 12:34 PM
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DirtySox
06-04-2010, 12:38 PM
DirtySox hit the nail on the head with his assessment of the farm system, pretty thin besides a few fringy prospects in the lower levels.

One name I like as a potential sleeper is Nevin Griffith (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=518746), a former 2nd round pick out of high school, finally getting over TJ surgery in 2008 and looks like he's regaining his confidence. I've listened to few of his starts on the internet, he can work himself out of jams and is confident in throwing his off-speed stuff in any count, this might lead to his higher walk rate but it also shows that he's mentally tough too. The W-S announcer always raves about Nevin's work ethic as well.

Good assessment. I like Griffith, but I'm not entirely sure what to think yet. I'd like to see more strikeouts. I remember that his slider was what made him so effective and why he was drafted so high, but that pitch is what led to TJ. I think he might have ditched the pitch entirely. What have you heard from listening?

Ditka v. God
06-04-2010, 12:50 PM
Good assessment. I like Griffith, but I'm not entirely sure what to think yet. I'd like to see more strikeouts. I remember that his slider was what made him so effective and why he was drafted so high, but that pitch is what led to TJ. I think he might have ditched the pitch entirely. What have you heard from listening?

He's ditched the slider and replaced it with a curve, from what I've heard though it's been effective and he definitely throws it over the plate. I can recall a few of his strikeouts freezing the batter with the curve so at least he's trying to develop as an out pitch.

I also agree with you about the strikeouts, earlier in the year he was mowing batters down but then tapered off recently. I'm cutting him some slack since this is his first full year after the TJ surgery, so conditioning will still be an issue I'm sure.

Harry Chappas
06-04-2010, 02:10 PM
Thanks fellas. Good stuff.

Okay, another question for the baseball-stupid. Is there close to a consensus among you on who the Sox should draft from among the players likely to be available at 13? It seems like Sox like to go heavy on pitchers, but it seems like we have lacked solid position player prospects - not counting Beckham. Even the ones we have seem to have gaping holes in their games. Mitchell and Thompson are hurt, Flowers and Danks forgot how to hit, Viciedo has a suspect glove, etc. Is there anyone rumored to be around #13 that has a ceiling higher than "Joe Randa" (reference to Morel/Randa comparison).

It seems like pitchers usually come to the Sox via free agency. It also seems to my untrained eye that with exceptions like MB, all but the "blue chippers" seem to wash out at a higher rate. I think of guys like Rauch (even though he has resurrected his career), Ruffcorn, Ruffin, Cotts, and a host of other Sox arms that were at one time or another considered studs.

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 02:37 PM
The consensus of what people on this and other message boards want versus what the organization is seeking is quite different. People around here and other places are clamoring for high upside players with plenty of tools, quite often despite the risk and cost. This is unrealistic based upon the track record of the organization. It seems that there is a new organizational desire to pick players with some upside and a higher ceiling, but it's very limited in that the Sox are averse to drafting high school players in the first round, and that they tend not to go over slot, or at least not by much.

College pitching seems to be the consensus and focal point of many sources. There is also a mix of college bats that are frequently mentioned. As of currently, there is one (maybe two) high school position players that might be in the mix. I think it's the most likely that the pick ends up being a college pitcher. If not, it will likely be a valued college bat that has somehow fallen to 13. I find it very unlikely that the aforementioned prep position player(s) is taken.

The names in play that I referred to above and that have been linked to the White Sox are as follows. Parenthesis indicate that though they have been linked to the White Sox at some point, recent/current information says they aren't likely picked.

College Pitchers:

-Brandon Workman
-Deck McGuire
-Asher Wojciechowski
-Barret Loux
-Matt Harvey*
-Jesse Hahn
-Brett Eibner
-(Alex Wimmers)

College Position Players:

-Bryce Brentz
-Mike Kvasnicka
-Yasmani Grandal

High School Position Players:

-Nick Castellanos
-(Yordy Cabrera)**
-(Josh Sale)

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*Harvey is a Boras client, but has a very high ceiling for a college pitcher. If reports are true in what he is seeking, he almost assuredly won't be picked.

**Yordy has been mentioned only once in connection with the White Sox. I doubt he is in play, and he could be considered a big overdraft at 13.

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 03:27 PM
Supposedly the White Sox might be in on Grandal once more. If you are an Insider you can read the latter portion of the statement.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=mlb_draft&id=5252652&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2***b %2fblog%3fname%3dmlb_draft%26id%3d5252652

Would love if they took him.

Pablo_Honey
06-04-2010, 04:43 PM
Supposedly the White Sox might be in on Grandal once more. If you are an Insider you can read the latter portion of the statement.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=mlb_draft&id=5252652&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2***b %2fblog%3fname%3dmlb_draft%26id%3d5252652

Would love if they took him.
I'd be happy if the Sox took him instead of the non-inspiring college arms I've been hearing about at #13. An athletic catcher with plus arm, plus speed and plus bat? Heck yes! Still, it would be even better if they drafted Castellanos instead but realistically speaking, both of these guys are pipe-dreams. If Sox pick one of these two, that would be an irrefutible proof that Sox have indeed completely changed their draft philosophy.

Jeff B
06-04-2010, 05:57 PM
I'd be happy if the Sox took him instead of the non-inspiring college arms I've been hearing about at #13. An athletic catcher with plus arm, plus speed and plus bat? Heck yes! Still, it would be even better if they drafted Castellanos instead but realistically speaking, both of these guys are pipe-dreams. If Sox pick one of these two, that would be an irrefutible proof that Sox have indeed completely changed their draft philosophy.
I haven't watched much of Grandal personally but this is not how he grades based on everything I've read. He gets more solid average grades (55's) for his hit tool and power and Keith Law/Jason Churchill gave him a 30 for speed.

Pablo_Honey
06-04-2010, 06:18 PM
I haven't watched much of Grandal personally but this is not how he grades based on everything I've read. He gets more solid average grades (55's) for his hit tool and power and Keith Law/Jason Churchill gave him a 30 for speed.
Oops, you are right. I was in a bit of a rush and I skimmed through only one scouting report. So I mistakenly interpreted his quickness behind the plate as quickness on the basepath and half-arsedly assumed his bat must be great enough to be considered the top catcher in the draft.:redface: This is why one needs to be thorough when reading about materials he does not know well and not make himself look like an idiot.:tongue: I guess I better do better research next time before posting something in this thread.

Jeff B
06-04-2010, 06:46 PM
Oops, you are right. I was in a bit of a rush and I skimmed through only one scouting report. So I mistakenly interpreted his quickness behind the plate as quickness on the basepath and half-arsedly assumed his bat must be great enough to be considered the top catcher in the draft.:redface: This is why one needs to be thorough when reading about materials he does not know well and not make himself look like an idiot.:tongue: I guess I better do better research next time before posting something in this thread.
Haha didn't mean to bust your balls or anything. You got the plus arm and good athleticism right at least!

DirtySox
06-04-2010, 08:00 PM
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Rumor: #Royals (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Royals), according to industry sources are believed to have a deal in place with Yasmani Grandal for 4th overall pick #MLBDraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft) 3 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere/status/15454126481) via web

DirtySox
06-05-2010, 09:35 AM
Law notes that if the Royals do indeed take Grandal, it puts the White Sox back onto college pitching.

102605
06-05-2010, 10:03 AM
Law notes that if the Royals do indeed take Grandal, it puts the White Sox back onto college pitching.

Unless they take Brentz. :wink:

DirtySox
06-05-2010, 12:01 PM
Updated Draft Buzz:

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/05/draft-buzz-top-15-clearing-up/

Ditka v. God
06-05-2010, 12:30 PM
Updated Draft Buzz:

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/05/draft-buzz-top-15-clearing-up/

The shocker in this mock draft is the inclusion of Jesse Biddle (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/05/11/jesse-biddle-report/) going at #14 to the Brewers. A 6-5 lanky lefty that seems a lot like our second round pick last year David Holmberg. I was hoping he'd fall to us in the second round, but he's been on helium alert the last couple of weeks.

DirtySox
06-05-2010, 12:31 PM
The shocker in this mock draft is the inclusion of Jesse Biddle (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/05/11/jesse-biddle-report/) going at #14 to the Brewers. A 6-5 lanky lefty that seems a lot like our second round pick last year David Holmberg. I was hoping he'd fall to us in the second round, but he's been on helium alert the last couple of weeks.

I was hoping the same. The Sox need some lefties in the system. I've been on Biddle for a while. Also big fans of Folty, Smelter, and Tago for prep arms.

Ditka v. God
06-05-2010, 01:05 PM
I was hoping the same. The Sox need some lefties in the system. I've been on Biddle for a while. Also big fans of Folty, Smelter, and Tago for prep arms.

Good call on Smelter and Tago. Unfortunately I can't seeing Smelter dropping out of the supplemental round, but we might have a legit shot at Tago which would be amazing. Tall, projectable kid that can touch mid-90s with his fastball and average-above average offspeed stuff, I'll take that any day of the week.

Hopefully if we go with a safe college arm with our first pick, then we'll follow the pattern of previous years by drafting a higher-ceiling prep player with our second pick. (i.e. Holmberg, Edwards, Griffith) I wouldn't mind seeing us take LeVon Washington, Reggie Golden (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/02/10/reggie-golden-report/) or even Austin Wood in the second round either.

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06-05-2010, 11:45 PM
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cards press box
06-06-2010, 10:47 AM
Some analysts think that Deck McGuire of Georgia Tech might fall to the White Sox. If he does, should the Sox take him?

DirtySox
06-06-2010, 10:52 AM
Some analysts think that Deck McGuire of Georgia Tech might fall to the White Sox. If he does, should the Sox take him?

Yes. He might be considered safe, but he is a top talent and the Sox would be lucky to get him. 4 pitch mix, pitchers frame, great poise and other intangibles. His ceiling might not be higher than a 2 or 3, but he is very likely to reach that middle of the rotation status.

DirtySox
06-06-2010, 10:52 AM
Top 10 Update:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=2243

Ditka v. God
06-06-2010, 12:15 PM
So I was bored this weekend and thought I'd try mocking up a big board for the first few rounds before the draft on Monday. These are a few names that really catch my interest and I'm trying to approximate their draft position. Obviously I'm not a scout and these rankings are just my opinion/speculation and in no way represent who the Sox are likely to choose, so take them for what their worth. I thought it would be fun to put this together and am interested in what you guys think.

I skipped the first round since that's been the primary focus for the past few weeks and dove into the later rounds.

Second Round

DeAndre Smelter (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/01/26/smelter-report/)- athletic, raw pitcher that features a mid-90's fastball with a ton of sink to go with an average-above average slider and change.
Reggie Golden (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/02/10/reggie-golden-report/)- speedy OF has a lot of power potential in his bat, could develop into a legit 5-tool player.
Ryne Stanek (http://royalsprospects.com/?p=1559)- Tall, lanky RHP out of Missouri that can hit 95 mph with his fastball already. Decent control on secondary stuff, curve could be an out-pitch.
Peter Tago (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/05/07/peter-tago-report/)- Live arm to go with a tall frame, can command his curve well, also has a SL and CH.
LeVon Washington (http://www.dakstats.com/WebSync/Pages/Team/IndividualStats.aspx?association=14&sg=MBA&sea=JUCMBA_2010&team=15393&plr=53495)- speedy top-of-the-order type of hitter that was a hot prospect in last year's draft.

Third Round(we have two picks this round since we didn't sign Morgado)

Sam Dyson (http://gamecocksonline.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/dyson_sam00.html)- good stuff, command and consistency have been erratic.
Jared Lakind (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/03/03/jared-lakind-report/)- I love this kid's bat, if you watch videos on him the ball just flies off his bat.
Tyler Holt (http://www.seminoles.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/holt_tyler00.html)- toolsy lead-off hitter for FSU, like his approach to the game.
Jesse Biddle (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/05/11/jesse-biddle-report/)- He 's been moving up the draft boards lately, if he's around our first third round pick it's no-brainer.
Chris Hernandez (http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/hernandez_chris00.html)- I've been really impressed with his pitchability, crafty lefty reminds me of Buehrle a little.
Bobby Wahl (http://pnrscouting.com/scoutingreports_2010_wahlbo.html)- great size with good stuff, slider is an out-pitch.
Cody Wheeler (http://www.goccusports.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/wheeler_cody00.html)- kind of reminds me of Roy Oswalt from the left side.

Fourth Round

Angelo Gumbs (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/04/06/angelo-gumbs-report/)- great athleticism at SS, more than likely a future CF. Sounds like a potential Torii Hunter.
Derek Dietrich (http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/dietrich_derek00.html)- polished college SS that might have to switch to 2B or 3B.
Kendrick Perkins (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/01/29/kendrick-perkins-report/)- athletic OF prospect, good power potential.
Andrelton Simmons (http://www.western.cc.ok.us/woscbaseball/2010%20statistics.htm)- raw but athletic SS prospect, there are concerns about his bat. Also a relief pitcher that can touch 95mph with his fastball.
Mike Olt (http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/olt_mike00.html)- power-hitting 3B that makes decent contact, concerns over his eye and patience at the plate.
Tony Thompson (http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/thompson_tony00.html)- last year's Big 12 Triple Crown winner, coming off a knee injury. Loads of potential, might go back for his senior year.

5-10 Rounds(just thought I'd throw out some names that might go in these rounds)

Nate Roberts, OF, High Point Univ. (http://www.highpointpanthers.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=3317&path=baseball)
DeMarcus Tidwell, OF, Yavapai College (http://www.goroughriders.com/2009/11/demarcus-tidwell/)
Chad Lewis, 3B, Marina (CA) HS (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/05/04/chad-lewis-reoirt/)
Mike Lorenzen, OF, Fullerton (CA) HS (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/04/13/mike-lorenzen-report/)
Ty Linton, OF, Charlotte Christian (NC) HS (http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/01/08/ty-linton-report/)
Bronson Gillam, RHP/1B, Evangel Christian Academy (LA) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_tb73IwiPc)
A.J. Kirby-Jones, 1B, Tennessee-Tech (http://www.ttusports.com/sports/bsb/2009-10/bios/kirby-jones_aj)
Tommy Medica, C, Santa Clara University (http://www.santaclarabroncos.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/medica_tommy01.html)

Basically I hope we address our needs for pitching, power and leadoff hitters with this draft. I know it's considered a weak draft this year, but I think you can still find some pretty good ball players too.

DirtySox
06-06-2010, 07:08 PM
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06-06-2010, 07:12 PM
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Draft Buzz: Josh Sale appears to be Houston's guy at pick #8 http://bit.ly/9wih9z 2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere/status/15589881441) via web

Jeff B
06-06-2010, 07:17 PM
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Multiple sources have mentions Zach Cox looking for "Alvarez money", could cause him to slip #mlbdraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft) 12 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein/status/15589037911) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)
Haha. Good luck with that, Zach.

DirtySox
06-06-2010, 07:19 PM
Haha. Good luck with that, Zach.

No kidding.

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Speaking of which, if I was a GM I'd tell any college player who thinks he'll do better in the stacked 2011 draft to take his reality pills 7 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/15589986813) via web

DirtySox
06-06-2010, 08:21 PM
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I'd be fine with him there. RT @n_schaef (http://twitter.com/n_schaef): @Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) As a White Sox fan, how upset should I be with grabbing Asher Walphabet at 13? less than a minute ago (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein/status/15594171746) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

DirtySox
06-11-2010, 10:53 PM
2011 draft related; Gerrit Cole is pitching on ESPN2 currently for UCLA. He's very likely a top 5 pick in next year's draft.

DirtySox
06-12-2010, 03:21 PM
Fangraphs 2011 Draft - Pitchers Preview:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/wait-til-next-year-draft-11-preview-pitchers/

Jeff B
06-13-2010, 11:06 AM
Draft update: It's rare that the Sox draft a high school middle infielder as high as the 11th round, but they're making a serious effort to sign Chaparral (Ariz.) shortstop James McDonald.

McDonald said that he's not sure whether to start his professional career or fulfill a scholarship offer from Arizona State.

"I'm weighing a few things right now," McDonald said.

McDonald recently graduated from the same school that produced Paul Konerko.http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5336745.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0613-bits-white-sox-chicago--20100612,0,5336745.story)

DirtySox
06-13-2010, 11:55 AM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5336745.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0613-bits-white-sox-chicago--20100612,0,5336745.story)

Interesting.

Wasn't he one of the players you couldn't find much information on when he was drafted? Have you managed to find out anything worthwhile?

Also, I haven't been able to do much research on the late rounds of the draft, is there any high upside prep players you hope we sign? Gregor? Griset?

Jeff B
06-13-2010, 12:06 PM
Interesting.

Wasn't he one of the players you couldn't find much information on when he was drafted? Have you managed to find out anything worthwhile?
Yes; unfortunately no.

Also, I haven't been able to do much research on the late rounds of the draft, is there any high upside prep players you hope we sign? Gregor? Griset?
Gregor, Griset and Brad Salgado are the later round draft picks that I hope they take a serious run at. Not many HS players sign after being selected in that 35+ round range though.

DirtySox
06-15-2010, 11:52 AM
In the recent Ask BA, Callis noted that he sees Chris Sale as the top prospect in the White Sox system. This is likely due to Sale being a top 5 talent in the draft, and because of how ****ty the Sox farm system is.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/ask-ba/2010/2610191.html

JermaineDye05
06-15-2010, 12:37 PM
In the recent Ask BA, Callis noted that he sees Chris Sale as the top prospect in the White Sox system. This is likely due to Sale being a top 5 talent in the draft, and because of how ****ty the Sox farm system is.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/ask-ba/2010/2610191.html

Would Mitchell have been considered the top prospect still if he hadn't injured himself?

DirtySox
06-15-2010, 12:47 PM
Would Mitchell have been considered the top prospect still if he hadn't injured himself?

It would likely depend upon his performance. While still a great prospect, it hurts that someone as raw as he is has lost a season of development time. There are also questions about how the injury might effect the speed portion of his game. Supposedly it shouldn't hamper him at all, but I will wait to see the performance results.

I have no qualms with Sale being named the top prospect. I think he ekes out Hudson because he is a lefty and has a slightly higher ceiling. Hudson's peripherals have been fantastic this year though, and I can see why some would have him higher than Sale.

Edit: And I don't buy Dayan the top prospect (yet). He is a decent prospect but he still has plenty of warts. His defensive value is null, he doesn't take walks, and his bat has to be pretty special at 1B.

Frater Perdurabo
06-15-2010, 08:39 PM
Edit: And I don't buy Dayan the top prospect (yet). He is a decent prospect but he still has plenty of warts. His defensive value is null, he doesn't take walks, and his bat has to be pretty special at 1B.

I think the most pressing question is if Viciedo has the glove necessary for Ozzie to consider him a legitimate DH. :rolleyes:

DirtySox
06-17-2010, 10:42 AM
KG's AL Central Draft Wrap:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=11217