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g0g0
02-18-2010, 07:52 AM
I'm doing the whole father/son baseball stadium tour thing, and I'm wanting to keep it close this year as I'm not sure about prices, time, etc. What would you recommend/rate for close stadiums as far as lodging, other things to do, etc?

My first thought was MN for the new ballpark and Mall of America shopping, but Kansas supposedly has that too. Cleveland would be Rock-n-Roll HOF. I would also consider inter-league play of course but I haven't checked the calendar.

I guess I'm asking for opinions on your experience at those places. Thanks.

DumpJerry
02-18-2010, 08:00 AM
Jacobs Field (Progressive Park) is in downtown Cleveland. It's a very nice stadium, good sightlines from the upper deck and a lousy team on the field. Since it is downtown, there is plenty around it for pre- and post-game activities.

The new Twins stadium is also downtown, so it, too, is not like The Big A in Anaheim which is in the middle of a million highway off-ramps and no other signs of civilization.

Since the stadium is new and the team is better, you might have better luck scoring good tickets to Cleveland than Minnesota.

Have not been to Kansas City or Detroit, so I don't know about them.

Edit: I see you added a poll. Since I've spent a lot of time in both Minny and Cleveland, let me just say that the Twin Cities have much more to offer a tourist than Cleveland. Much more.

doublem23
02-18-2010, 08:19 AM
I've only been to a game at Detroit, and I can say that they have a real nice park. I'm guessing you're the father in this combo, right? How old is your son? Comerica has some kid-friendly activities right in the park. My only advice with Comerica is give yourself a lot of time to get there, the highways leading up to the park get clogged fast (though, the only time I caught a game there, it was a sell-out).

I've never been a game at Minnesota (obviously) or Cleveland, but I've been to both cities and I personally prefer Cleveland, if only for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Not sure if that's something you'd consider doing on your trip, but that place is good for a 1-day visit. I'm sure Minneapolis/St. Paul are fine cities to live in, but they seem to be on the boring end to visit, even for only a day.

Never been to KC. Park has a great rep, prices are good, and it has two solid alternative attractions; food & Negro League HOF, but I can't comment on any of that in person.

If I may make 1 extra suggestion, why not Pittsburgh? PNC is generally regarded as one of the bets parks in the country and the Sox will be there this July, and if you're driving, it's an hour less than driving to KC.

Marqhead
02-18-2010, 08:24 AM
Myself and some friends are making a Cincinnati - Pittsburgh - Cleveland - Detroit 4 day swing this summer in July. Should be fun to see 4 excellent stadiums in one trip, only downside is none of the games feature the Sox.

Chez
02-18-2010, 08:46 AM
If you and/or your son are music fans, then the opportunity to visit The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame makes Cleveland a better choice than the Mall of America and Minnesota. The Mall of America is Woodfield Mall on steroids and HGH. It's just a huge mall -- with a few roller coasters crammed in the middle. That said, if your son likes roller coasters Ceder Point is a world class roller coaster park and is on the way to and just outside of Cleveland.

I've not been to a Royals game since they renovated the stadium and (obviously) I've not been to the new Twinkie Park, but both Comerica and the Ballpark formerly know as Jacobs Field are really nice and great places to see a game.

gobears1987
02-18-2010, 08:52 AM
I'd say Minnesota if for no other reason to see Target Field. A trip to Cleveland can be fairly cheap though, even with a downtown hotel.

SephClone89
02-18-2010, 09:14 AM
I want to do this too. Probably not this summer, but next.

I agree with the previous poster who suggested PNC. Yeah, it's a big of a drive, but the park is absolutely incredible.

ewokpelts
02-18-2010, 09:35 AM
PNC park is one awesome park. too bad the buccos suck. i flew to pitt for the 06 ASG, and it cost me $120 round trip. i was in the air for just over an hour each way. even in 06, it ended up being cheaper to fly than to pay for gas on a 10 hour trip each way. plus the cost of a rental car.

WhiffleBall
02-18-2010, 09:37 AM
It's not on your list but Tampa is a great place to visit especially when the Sox are in town. Their ballpark is actually ok, tickets are cheap and plentiful, the food is great, and they have an interactive devil ray tank in center field. I went last year with my son and we got tickets two rows behind the sox dugout for face value on stubhub. AJ threw my son a ball at the end of an inning. Tampa has a great zoo, Busch gardens is right there, and of course miles and miles of beach front with plenty of hotels and reasonable priced condo rentals. I recommend Madeira Beach near St Johns Pass. The negative is airfare and renting a car.

WSox597
02-18-2010, 09:37 AM
I get it, Detroit is on there as some sort of gag, right? LOL

Minny hands down. New field, Mall of America, thousands of lakes.

pmck003
02-18-2010, 09:40 AM
The roller coaster park and rock n roll hall of fame trump any outdoor/indoor activities that I can think of in the Twin Cities. The Mall of America really isn't a big deal unless shopping is really your thing. I've driven by Target Field and it looks pretty cool though.

g0g0
02-18-2010, 09:41 AM
I'm guessing you're the father in this combo, right? How old is your son?

I've never been a game at Minnesota (obviously) or Cleveland, but I've been to both cities and I personally prefer Cleveland, if only for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. Not sure if that's something you'd consider doing on your trip, but that place is good for a 1-day visit.

If I may make 1 extra suggestion, why not Pittsburgh? PNC is generally regarded as one of the bets parks in the country and the Sox will be there this July, and if you're driving, it's an hour less than driving to KC.

This might sound odd, but my son is almost 2. I wanted to do this early though as I'm 35 and want to get them all in before I retire! :D: I thought it would be cool for him (and my wife) to get to do it too. We'll probably hit the earlier stadiums again when he's older if he's interested in that sort of thing.

The Rock-n-Roll HOF is a must! (In my original post)

Good point on Pitt. I guess I hadn't thought of that!

Myself and some friends are making a Cincinnati - Pittsburgh - Cleveland - Detroit 4 day swing this summer in July. Should be fun to see 4 excellent stadiums in one trip, only downside is none of the games feature the Sox.

Definitely want the stadium tour to all be Sox vs. ______. This is another reason I want to start early as it can be tricky with inter-league play. Sounds like you'll be having a good season!

doublem23
02-18-2010, 09:57 AM
The roller coaster park and rock n roll hall of fame trump any outdoor/indoor activities that I can think of in the Twin Cities. The Mall of America really isn't a big deal unless shopping is really your thing. I've driven by Target Field and it looks pretty cool though.

Yeah, I'm guessing Minnesota is running away with this because of the new park, but really unless you have friends up there, I'd think the Twin Cities area is kind of dull; the Mall of America is a freaking mall, for pete's sake. Yeah, there are some lakes, but the best little lake I've ever been to is Lake Houghton, in Michigan (though that is 3 hours north of Detroit, and coming back around Lake Michigan after a weekend is a bitch)

102605
02-18-2010, 10:28 AM
I said Minny because of the new stadium. However, I have always been told "The Jake" is also a great ballpark.

roylestillman
02-18-2010, 10:41 AM
Minneapolis by a long shot. I've been to trips in all three. Detroit is just poor Detroit, but to be honest I'd put it ahead of KC and Cleveland. I always remember arriving in Cleveland early and asking the guy at the ticket window what there was to see in Cleveland. Without skipping a beat he said, "The inside of any bar." KC is OK. We stayed in the Country Club Plaza area which is there shopping district. The area around the ballpark is desolate. Minneapolis is great. The hotels are fairly cheap (Priceline 'em.) the light rail from the airport makes renting a car unecessary, and the nightlife is great.

ewokpelts
02-18-2010, 11:09 AM
how does the mall of america sway people? it's a mall. in minnesota.

GoGoCrede
02-18-2010, 11:46 AM
how does the mall of america sway people? it's a mall. in minnesota.

Never been there, but apparently there are rides and such.

beasly213
02-18-2010, 12:46 PM
I've been to Pit and Cleveland and you could do both of those parks in a weekend on back to back days.

Check them out they are both two of my favorites

gobears1987
02-18-2010, 01:08 PM
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame does make Cleveland very much worth the trip. I stayed downtown in a nice hotel for $50 a night thanks to Priceline too. I was able to walk to the Hall and to the Jake.

Slappy
02-18-2010, 01:43 PM
I've only been to Tigers stadium out of those, and it's a really nice park, but not too much to do around there at all.

If I could only take one trip to a different ballpark this season, I'd pick Target Field. It simply looks like a great stadium, and a Sox/Twins game will be a heck of a lot more exciting than any other teams in the division, I think.

In fact, I'm trying to get a group of friends to take a trip out there in mid-July.

ComiskeyBrewer
02-18-2010, 06:42 PM
KC is a really intimate stadium. I loved it there when i went last year. Easy on and off parking, as the parking lot is situated between 2 major interstates. Really easy to get tickets, and the people there were nothing but nice. Great BBQ too, as you ARE in KC.

Comerica in Detroit is nice. It's located in the only 4 block radius that is pleasing to the eyes. Ferris Wheel in the stadium, something your son would enjoy. It also has a very nice view of Downtown. Parking is pretty easy(unless you get there late), as most of the people leave Detroit at 5pm. Food there is subpar IMO.

Target Field looks great, but it might be hard to get tickets this year, as it is the first year and all.

MarkZ35
02-18-2010, 07:19 PM
Depending on where you live in Indiana then Detroit and Cleveland will be much closer to you which is solid with a 2 yr old in the back seat. I would wait on Target field this year as the tickets will probably be twice as much as they will be in a year. Cleveland is CHEAP. In 05 we got a nice hotel downtown 3 blocks away for 40 a night. Tickets are cheap. Detroit is also really nice especially if you have a passport. Although you'll have a 2 year old I usually stay in Windsor when I see the Sox in Detroit. It's a little more expensive but much nicer than 95% of Detroit.

doublem23
02-18-2010, 08:51 PM
Never been there, but apparently there are rides and such.

Yeah, but they're kids rides, which I guess would be good if you're towing a 2-year-old, but it's not like it has any appeal for adults.

ewok is right, it's a mall. Any decent mall (and there are plenty in the Chicago area) will pretty much be the exact same thing, minus the 12-hour-round trip.

Twins_Morneau
02-19-2010, 04:02 AM
Never been there, but apparently there are rides and such.

Been there many a times since I live near Minneapolis. Its supposed to be the biggest Mall in the Country? Atleast thats what it was billed as, but I dunno if its accurate anymore. Anyways its huge, and features theatres/Amusement Parks etc indoors.

As for the cities, besides living in Minny I have only been to Chicago in the midwest. Minneapolis is pretty good choice, we've got a lake every half a block.
Not to mention Target Field opening up.

doublem23
02-19-2010, 04:08 AM
Been there many a times since I live near Minneapolis. Its supposed to be the biggest Mall in the Country? Atleast thats what it was billed as, but I dunno if its accurate anymore. Anyways its huge, and features theatres/Amusement Parks etc indoors.

It's either 1 or 2 depending on how you define a mall's size. Mall of America has the largest enclosed area of any mall in the county, but the King of Prussia Mall (just outside Philadelphia) has more space that can be leased for retail.

steely712
02-19-2010, 06:09 AM
Just saw this article on the internet of the 20 most miserable cities in America, and Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City and Chicago are all on the list, so I would say Minnesota is probably your best option. Here is the link to the 20 most miserable cities:

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=456&sid=1892346

:gulp:

TwinKess
02-19-2010, 11:02 AM
Even if you just stay on the light rail you can hit a ton of stuff in MN.

In stop order:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_Field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouse_District,_Minneapolis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis_Skyway_System
Cabooze/The Joint/Wiskey Junction if you are in to biker bars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnehaha_Falls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Snelling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall_of_america

C-Dawg
02-19-2010, 11:17 AM
I voted for Detroit. I like the park and its always a good time there. Much better fans than you'd see in Cleveland. Oh, like was mentioned earlier, there can be traffic jams before the game. Even once when I was there for a game with 11,000 people the highway ramps were packed.

doublem23
02-19-2010, 08:02 PM
Just saw this article on the internet of the 20 most miserable cities in America, and Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City and Chicago are all on the list, so I would say Minnesota is probably your best option. Here is the link to the 20 most miserable cities:

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=456&sid=1892346

:gulp:

Not to get political, but that list is released by Forbes, a magazine that's aimed at roughly 1% of the country. (AKA, it's full of ****)

johnnyg83
02-19-2010, 08:37 PM
They said KC was a bad place to live mostly because of the sports teams.

Sha-wha?

Honesty, that would be my last consideration when looking for a place to live that wasn't my hometown.

KC is a hidden gem. I thought I'd never leave Chicago. But I love it here.

doublem23
02-19-2010, 09:14 PM
They said KC was a bad place to live mostly because of the sports teams.

Sha-wha?

Honesty, that would be my last consideration when looking for a place to live that wasn't my hometown.

KC is a hidden gem. I thought I'd never leave Chicago. But I love it here.

Yeah that's pretty crazy in this day of internet, cable TV, etc., it's not terribly difficult to keep up with your team even if its out of market. The only thing that stinks about KC, I guess is that they don't have an NBA or NHL team so if you're a Bulls or Blackhawks fan you still have to travel to see them.

DumpJerry
02-19-2010, 10:08 PM
To echo what was said above about the Rock-n-Roll HoF: it rocks. Went there at Thanksgiving last year and it is a truly inspirational place. My only other time at the HoF was many years earlier and it has improved vastly since then.

g0g0
02-20-2010, 09:41 AM
Even if you just stay on the light rail you can hit a ton of stuff in MN.

In stop order:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_Field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouse_District,_Minneapolis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis_Skyway_System
Cabooze/The Joint/Wiskey Junction if you are in to biker bars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnehaha_Falls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Snelling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall_of_america


Thanks for the info! Never been up to MN so this will help if/when I do go. Ya, the RR HOF is really a big sway for Cleveland. So many decisions... :?:

crashwave
02-20-2010, 03:22 PM
Is this a road trip? If so, I would definitely wait to see the Twin Cities until your two-year-old is older, because it's a lot farther away (from central IN) than you think. Minneapolis and Washington DC are about equidistant from Indy.

My vote would be Cleveland/Pittsburgh or Cleveland/Detroit.

g0g0
02-20-2010, 09:29 PM
Is this a road trip? If so, I would definitely wait to see the Twin Cities until your two-year-old is older, because it's a lot farther away (from central IN) than you think. Minneapolis and Washington DC are about equidistant from Indy.

My vote would be Cleveland/Pittsburgh or Cleveland/Detroit.

Yes, it's a roadtrip. Wow, I didn't know it was that far away! Same as D.C.!?!?

Sox
02-21-2010, 02:58 PM
My vote was for Kansas City. Been to the K once and its a really nice ballpark. There's great restaurants there. The one that I like to go to is BD's Mongolian Barbecue. Good stuff.

soxjim
02-21-2010, 04:21 PM
Been to all in our division. I voted for KC because I have a great time there. The Negro League and Blues Museum are worth seeing. Forgot that Minnesota has a new park, that should be worth seeing. No more dome trips!:bandance:

crashwave
02-22-2010, 08:47 PM
Yes, it's a roadtrip. Wow, I didn't know it was that far away! Same as D.C.!?!?

Yup, it's true.

Ind. - Mpls = 589 miles
Ind. - DC = 585 miles

Twins_Morneau
02-23-2010, 04:28 AM
Even if you just stay on the light rail you can hit a ton of stuff in MN.

In stop order:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_Field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouse_District,_Minneapolis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis_Skyway_System
Cabooze/The Joint/Wiskey Junction if you are in to biker bars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnehaha_Falls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Snelling
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall_of_america

Agreed, Light Rail will get you everywhere.