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DumpJerry
01-05-2010, 06:02 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Randy-Johnson-to-retire-010510

They probably have the plaque made up already.

thomas35forever
01-05-2010, 06:06 PM
Hats off to you, Big Unit. You accomplished everything possible in a Major League career.

voodoochile
01-05-2010, 06:06 PM
Yeah, it's time. Good luck with whatever comes next Tall Dude...

DSpivack
01-05-2010, 06:22 PM
Glad I was there to see his 300th! Although too bad it was a cool, rainy night and didn't get good pics.

mantis1212
01-05-2010, 06:30 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Randy-Johnson-to-retire-010510

They probably have the plaque made up already.


Yes, but is he wearing a Arizona hat or a Seattle hat? I'd say the World Series puts the Arizona hat on his head.

DumpJerry
01-05-2010, 06:33 PM
Yes, but is he wearing a Arizona hat or a Seattle hat? I'd say the World Series puts the Arizona hat on his head.
Seattle by twelve games (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnsra05.shtml).

TDog
01-05-2010, 06:36 PM
A lot of people believed Johnson was done with his injury last season, but to his credit, he came back.

If Tim Lincecum continues to be a great pitcher, fans in 30 years will marvel at Lincecum and Johnson being in the same starting rotation, although Johnson's best days were behind him, just as fans today can marvel at Tom Seaver and Nolan Ryan both starting for the 1969 Mets. (Johnson missed being an Astros teammate of Ryan by a decade.)

I think Johnson pitching for the Giants in 2009 helped the young pitcher in 2009 and may help them into the future.

gobears1987
01-05-2010, 07:00 PM
Not a shock as he really has nothing left to play for. He's done it all.

DSpivack
01-05-2010, 07:00 PM
A lot of people believed Johnson was done with his injury last season, but to his credit, he came back.

If Tim Lincecum continues to be a great pitcher, fans in 30 years will marvel at Lincecum and Johnson being in the same starting rotation, although Johnson's best days were behind him, just as fans today can marvel at Tom Seaver and Nolan Ryan both starting for the 1969 Mets. (Johnson missed being an Astros teammate of Ryan by a decade.)

I think Johnson pitching for the Giants in 2009 helped the young pitcher in 2009 and may help them into the future.

Three Cy Young winners in one rotation probably hasn't happened too often in baseball history. And I could see Matt Cain winning one some day, too.

SOXfnNlansing
01-05-2010, 07:07 PM
It's about time! At 46 he has nothing more to prove to anyone. I hope he enjoys the rest of his life with his family. He was a great all time pitcher.

beasly213
01-05-2010, 07:36 PM
One of my favorite non Sox pitchers of all time.

SoxFan1979
01-05-2010, 07:42 PM
The Big Unit ......couldn't have come up with a better nickname for him. He was a menacing pitcher! loved the mullet too.

Jpgr91
01-05-2010, 07:53 PM
Seattle by twelve games (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/johnsra05.shtml).

With the Diamondbacks he won 4 consecutive Cy Young Awards and 1 World Series. With Seattle he won 1 Cy Young and 0 World Series.

DumpJerry
01-05-2010, 07:59 PM
With the Diamondbacks he won 4 consecutive Cy Young Awards and 1 World Series. With Seattle he won 1 Cy Young and 0 World Series.
Thanks to Fisk, it is the team for whom he played the most games. With the count so close, maybe he will be given the option to choose.

I'm sure they're dancing on the North Side since he had some sort of sick record against them (something like 14-0). However, when it came to the Good Guys, there is his 15 minutes of Hell (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA200508210.shtml).

guillensdisciple
01-05-2010, 08:08 PM
Amazing pitcher with dominant stuff, glad to say that I watched him as I was growing up.

Jpgr91
01-05-2010, 08:08 PM
Thanks to Fisk, it is the team for whom he played the most games. With the count so close, maybe he will be given the option to choose.

I'm sure they're dancing on the North Side since he had some sort of sick record against them (something like 14-0). However, when it came to the Good Guys, there is his 15 minutes of Hell (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA200508210.shtml).

I thought it had more to do with Wade Boggs than Fisk? Also, I thought that the Hall had some sort of "committee" deciding? That would be real silly if the Hall only looked at most games played as the only deciding factor of what hat a player wears.

TDog
01-05-2010, 08:24 PM
Three Cy Young winners in one rotation probably hasn't happened too often in baseball history. And I could see Matt Cain winning one some day, too.

And it was Jonathan Sanchez who pitched the no-hitter last summer.

The Baltimore Orioles in 1980, of course, had three former Cy Young Award-winners in their four-man rotation: Jim Palmer, Mike Flanagan and Steve Stone -- Flanagan and Stone winning the award in 1978 and 1979 and Palmer having won his third in 1976.

doublem23
01-05-2010, 09:56 PM
Thanks to Fisk, it is the team for whom he played the most games. With the count so close, maybe he will be given the option to choose.

I'm sure they're dancing on the North Side since he had some sort of sick record against them (something like 14-0). However, when it came to the Good Guys, there is his 15 minutes of Hell (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHA/CHA200508210.shtml).

I thought it had more to do with Wade Boggs than Fisk? Also, I thought that the Hall had some sort of "committee" deciding? That would be real silly if the Hall only looked at most games played as the only deciding factor of what hat a player wears.

Well, I'm not even sure what Dump is talking about, since Carlton Fisk played almost 350 more games in Chicago and had over 1,000 more AB here. The HOF does take a players' request into consideration but they have the final say in what hat a player wears.

I know we all like to think of Fisk as one of ours here, but in the general baseball community, he's best remembered for his service in Boston, especially that HR around the pole in Game 6 vs. the Reds.

LongLiveFisk
01-05-2010, 10:20 PM
I thought it had more to do with Wade Boggs than Fisk?

That's what I thought too. :?:

soxinem1
01-05-2010, 10:33 PM
Yes, but is he wearing a Arizona hat or a Seattle hat? I'd say the World Series puts the Arizona hat on his head.

Tough and close call, but since he came to prominence with SEA, I'd say them.

I watched Johnson over 20 seasons ago as a rookie just shut down CHC when he came up with MTL. I thought he was a mechanical mess and remember when the Expos sent him to AAA before he was traded to the Mariners. He was so wild and inconsistent....

Until he had the talk with Nolan Ryan. Then it was lift off.

He should thank The Ryan Express when he accepts HOF induction. That vote should be unanimous.

Red Barchetta
01-05-2010, 10:36 PM
He was a great pitcher and during his prime, probably the most intimidating, especially to left-handed batters.

Besides his great career statistics, I will always remember him for two things:

1.) The All-Star game when he pitched against his former Montreal teammate and friend Larry Walker. The first pitch almost knocked Larry's helmet off so Larry put the helmet on backward and stepped to the other side of the plate to bat righty. :D:

2.) The incredible bird "incident" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeSm6ya4ww8 :o:

Shoeless_Jeff
01-05-2010, 10:39 PM
What is there to say about this guy that hasn't already been said? One of the greatest and most dominating pitchers of all time and arguably the best of the past 25 years.

He has truly earned his spot in the HOF.

DumpJerry
01-05-2010, 11:59 PM
Well, I'm not even sure what Dump is talking about, since Carlton Fisk played almost 350 more games in Chicago and had over 1,000 more AB here. The HOF does take a players' request into consideration but they have the final say in what hat a player wears.

I know we all like to think of Fisk as one of ours here, but in the general baseball community, he's best remembered for his service in Boston, especially that HR around the pole in Game 6 vs. the Reds.
That is why the HoF took the choice away from the players. Fisk was pissed (rightly so) at the White Sox organization.

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_Hall_of_Fame#Players_with_multiple_teams) spells it out.

DSpivack
01-06-2010, 01:33 AM
He was a great pitcher and during his prime, probably the most intimidating, especially to left-handed batters.

Besides his great career statistics, I will always remember him for two things:

1.) The All-Star game when he pitched against his former Montreal teammate and friend Larry Walker. The first pitch almost knocked Larry's helmet off so Larry put the helmet on backward and stepped to the other side of the plate to bat righty. :D:

2.) The incredible bird "incident" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeSm6ya4ww8 :o:

I thought that ASG fun was with John Kruk at bat?

TDog
01-06-2010, 01:47 AM
That is why the HoF took the choice away from the players. Fisk was pissed (rightly so) at the White Sox organization. ...

The reason Fisk played with the White Sox was that he was pissed, and rightly so, with the Red Sox organization.

doublem23
01-06-2010, 02:06 AM
This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_Hall_of_Fame#Players_with_multiple_teams) spells it out.

I know they took the final choice away from the player, but there is no rule that explicitly states you have to wear the cap of the team you played the most games for. Boggs and Carter may not have wanted to inducted as members of the Red Sox and Expos respectively, but they played the most significant portions of their career for those organizations. That's not the case with Randy Johnson.

Bruce Sutter was inducted to the HOF in 2006 and wears a Cardinals hat (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yKSo5xPjLpM/SudLuOubgSI/AAAAAAAAKsE/5bfKgGxX7K8/s1600-h/plaque_123004.jpg) on his plaque, despite having pitched more seasons, games, and innings with the Cubs during his career (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/suttebr01.shtml) (and arguably, having better individual statistics with them, too).

doublem23
01-06-2010, 04:14 AM
I thought that ASG fun was with John Kruk at bat?

I think he's talking about another game, but the AB against Kruk is legendary (http://www.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=344794&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/library/open/allstar/qa/93as_bigunit_wild_350.wmv&pid=false&cid=mlb&fid=350&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1), as well. Of course, Tim McCarver would have to be calling the game, sullying this moment.

white sox bill
01-06-2010, 07:35 AM
:KW"Hmm, maybe if I came in at 2yr.11 Million"

harwar
01-06-2010, 07:36 AM
He was a great pitcher and during his prime, probably the most intimidating, especially to left-handed batters.

Besides his great career statistics, I will always remember him for two things:

1.) The All-Star game when he pitched against his former Montreal teammate and friend Larry Walker. The first pitch almost knocked Larry's helmet off so Larry put the helmet on backward and stepped to the other side of the plate to bat righty. :D:

2.) The incredible bird "incident" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeSm6ya4ww8 :o:

What stands out in my mind is game 5 of the 95 ALDS .. while he walked in from the pen to the gnr song "welcome to the jungle" the cameras panned up and down the Yankee bench and you could see the fear in their eyes .. also, i seem to remember that John Kruk was involved in a similar incident (changing sides mid at bat) during an all star game in the early 90's .. it was pretty funny .. i read where Randy Johnson was totally appalled that plp thought it was funny when he hit that bird .. seagulls hold a place in my heart i suppose but they can be annoying at times .. when i was a commercial fisherman i came to enjoy their visit's when we were way offshore and i never hated them like others did .. anyway RJ was awesome to watch

Red Barchetta
01-06-2010, 07:18 PM
I think he's talking about another game, but the AB against Kruk is legendary (http://www.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=344794&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/library/open/allstar/qa/93as_bigunit_wild_350.wmv&pid=false&cid=mlb&fid=350&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1), as well. Of course, Tim McCarver would have to be calling the game, sullying this moment.

The Kruk moment was also very funny, but the Larry Walker moment was different. Just like Kruk getting buzzed by Johnson, Walker put his helmet on backwards and batted righty. :D: I did a quick search and could not find the video. :(:

soxfanreggie
01-06-2010, 08:01 PM
Congratulations on a great career RJ. You will go down as likely one of the best I will ever see. Enjoy retirement!

tstrike2000
01-06-2010, 09:07 PM
See you in Cooperstown.

tstrike2000
01-06-2010, 09:12 PM
I think he's talking about another game, but the AB against Kruk is legendary (http://www.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl.jsp?w_id=344794&w=mms%3A//a1503.v108692.c10869.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1503/10869/v0001/mlb.download.akamai.com/10869/library/open/allstar/qa/93as_bigunit_wild_350.wmv&pid=false&cid=mlb&fid=350&v=2&mType=w&urlstr=&mUrl=&type=v_free&_mp=1), as well. Of course, Tim McCarver would have to be calling the game, sullying this moment.

Good to see a glimpse of another future Hall of Famer, The Big Hurt, in the shot of the bench, too.