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illini81887
12-29-2009, 01:59 PM
As this decade winds down, just wanted everyone thoughts on all decade sox team

C-AJ
1B-Konerko
2b-?
SS-Jose Valentin?
3B-Joe Crede
LF-Carlos Lee
CF-Rowand?
RF-Jermaine Dye or Maggilo Ordonez?
DH-Frank Thomas or Jim Thome

Starting Rotation
#1 Mark Buehrle

Closer-Bobby Jenks

TomBradley72
12-29-2009, 02:31 PM
If we're looking exclusively at 2000-2009 production, I'd go with:

C-AJ (no one else even close)
1B-Konerko (no one else even close)
2b-Iguchi (coin toss vs. Durham)
SS-Uribe (defense gives him the edge over Valentin)
3B-Joe Crede (no one else even close)
LF-Carlos Lee
CF-Aaron Rowand (Chris Singleton the closest runner up)
RF-Magglio Ordonez (close call vs. Dye)
DH-Jim Thome (over Frank Thomas, missed most of '01,'04,'05)

Starting Rotation
#1 Mark Buehrle (Jon Garland is closest runner up)

Closer:

Bobby Jenks (over Keith Foulke)

asindc
12-29-2009, 02:58 PM
If we're looking exclusively at 2000-2009 production, I'd go with:

C-AJ (no one else even close)
1B-Konerko (no one else even close)
2b-Iguchi (coin toss vs. Durham)
SS-Uribe (defense gives him the edge over Valentin)
3B-Joe Crede (no one else even close)
LF-Carlos Lee
CF-Aaron Rowand (Chris Singleton the closest runner up)
RF-Magglio Ordonez (close call vs. Dye)
DH-Jim Thome (over Frank Thomas, missed most of '01,'04,'05)

Starting Rotation
#1 Mark Buehrle (Jon Garland is closest runner up)

Closer:

Bobby Jenks (over Keith Foulke)

I agree with these except for Maggs over Dye. I would take Dye, but I have no strong argument about it. Either one is a good choice.

october23sp
12-29-2009, 03:15 PM
C- AJ
1st- Paulie
2nd- Iguchi
3rd- Crede
SS- Uribe
LF- Pods or Lee
RF- Dye
CF- Rowand
DH- Thome

P- Buehrle

Zisk77
12-29-2009, 03:16 PM
Don't you really need 5 starting pitchers?

1. Buerhle
2. Garland
3. Contreras
4. Garcia
5. Loaiza (Vasquez)

bridgeportcopper
12-29-2009, 07:09 PM
Don't you really need 5 starting pitchers?

1. Buerhle
2. Garland
3. Contreras
4. Garcia
5. Loaiza (Vasquez)
I might put Danks in that 5 spot, almost as many good years thus far as Loaiza. And gimme Durham over Iguchi.

raven1
12-29-2009, 07:15 PM
My take based on overall contribution to the team in the decade vs. single best year:

C- AJ
1B- Konerko
2b- Durham
SS - Valentin
3B - Crede
LF - Lee
CF - Rowand
RF - Dye
DH - Thome

SP - Buehrle, Garland, Contreras, Garcia, Danks
Closer - Jenks

Brian26
12-29-2009, 07:27 PM
If we're looking exclusively at 2000-2009 production, I'd go with:

C-AJ (no one else even close)
1B-Konerko (no one else even close)
2b-Iguchi (coin toss vs. Durham)
SS-Uribe (defense gives him the edge over Valentin)
3B-Joe Crede (no one else even close)
LF-Carlos Lee
CF-Aaron Rowand (Chris Singleton the closest runner up)
RF-Magglio Ordonez (close call vs. Dye)
DH-Jim Thome (over Frank Thomas, missed most of '01,'04,'05)

Starting Rotation
#1 Mark Buehrle (Jon Garland is closest runner up)

Closer:

Bobby Jenks (over Keith Foulke)

I agree with all of these except SS. I'd give it to Manos, but close call either way.

Brian26
12-29-2009, 07:30 PM
Don't you really need 5 starting pitchers?

1. Buerhle
2. Garland
3. Contreras
4. Garcia
5. Loaiza (Vasquez)

Vasquez belongs nowhere on that list. I'd put Loaiza's 2003 well above anything Javy did here in his three years combined. Add to that the fact the Loaiza netted Contreras, and its a no-brainer.

MrT27
12-29-2009, 07:34 PM
Heres mine...

C: AJ
1B: Konerko
2B: Durham
SS: Uribe (Valentin game you some power but thats about all)
3B: Crede
LF: Carlos Lee
CF: Rowand
RF: Maggs (by a hair over JD)
DH: Thomas (Thome played 3.5 years in the 2000's, frank 6. Yes he was injured a lot but should have been MVP in 2000, decent 2002, good 2003, and really helped out a slumping hitting team when needed in 2005).

(in no particular order)
SP: Buehrle
SP: Loaiza
SP: Garland
SP: Garcia
SP: Contreras

CL: Jenks (take a look at Foulke's numbers tho, this is closer then you would think)

thomas35forever
12-29-2009, 11:07 PM
C - AJ
1B - Konerko
2B - Durham
SS - Valentin
3B - Crede
LF - Lee
CF - Rowand
RF - Dye
DH - Thomas

SP - Buehrle
SP - Garland
SP - Loaiza
SP - Contreras
SP - Garcia

CP - Jenks

HomeFish
12-29-2009, 11:48 PM
2000 version of Herbert Perry is better than most incarnations of Joe Crede

Zisk77
12-29-2009, 11:51 PM
2000 version of Herbert Perry is better than most incarnations of Joe Crede

Not defensively.

MUsoxfan
12-29-2009, 11:57 PM
Not defensively.

Brooks Robinson is envious of the legend of Joe Crede

soxinem1
12-30-2009, 12:00 AM
My take based on overall contribution to the team in the decade vs. single best year:

C- AJ
1B- Konerko
2b- Durham
SS - Valentin
3B - Crede
LF - Lee
CF - Rowand
RF - Dye
DH - Thome

SP - Buehrle, Garland, Contreras, Garcia, Danks
Closer - Jenks

One could argue for Maggs in RF, Frank at DH, and Foulke as closer, but otherwise you are right on target. Even those three are toss-ups.

Suprisingly the weakest part of having to put this list together is the starting pitching. There are really not a lot of solid picks to choose from.

HITMEN OF 77
12-30-2009, 01:05 AM
Heres mine...

C: AJ
1B: Konerko
2B: Durham
SS: Uribe (Valentin game you some power but thats about all)
3B: Crede
LF: Carlos Lee
CF: Rowand
RF: Maggs (by a hair over JD)
DH: Thomas (Thome played 3.5 years in the 2000's, frank 6. Yes he was injured a lot but should have been MVP in 2000, decent 2002, good 2003, and really helped out a slumping hitting team when needed in 2005).

(in no particular order)
SP: Buehrle
SP: Loaiza
SP: Garland
SP: Garcia
SP: Contreras

CL: Jenks (take a look at Foulke's numbers tho, this is closer then you would think)

I'm with ya

tacosalbarojas
12-30-2009, 01:05 AM
just give me the '05 team, and I'll beat anyone you throw on the field.

JB98
12-30-2009, 02:24 AM
C: Pierzynski
1B: Konerko
2B: Durham
SS: Valentin
3B: Crede
LF: Lee
CF: Rowand
RF: Dye
DH: Thomas

SP: Buehrle
SP: Garland
SP: Contreras
SP: Garcia
SP: Danks

CL: Jenks

JB98
12-30-2009, 02:31 AM
One could argue for Maggs in RF, Frank at DH, and Foulke as closer, but otherwise you are right on target. Even those three are toss-ups.

Suprisingly the weakest part of having to put this list together is the starting pitching. There are really not a lot of solid picks to choose from.

From 2000-04, the Sox were a good hitting team, but they could never seem to put it together pitching-wise. All those pitchers on the 2000 team got hurt, and that set them back a little bit.

HomeFish
12-30-2009, 02:33 AM
Not defensively.

Hitting is a far more valuable skill.

october23sp
12-30-2009, 02:37 AM
just give me the '05 team, and I'll beat anyone you throw on the field.

Pretty much what my team consisted of.

HomeFish
12-30-2009, 08:32 AM
just give me the '05 team, and I'll beat anyone you throw on the field.

The 2003 team could beat the 2005 team three games out of five.

tacosalbarojas
12-30-2009, 10:07 AM
The 2003 team could beat the 2005 team three games out of five.Wish they would have proven that when it counted against other 2003 teams.

Bobby Thigpen
12-30-2009, 12:04 PM
Vasquez belongs nowhere on that list. I'd put Loaiza's 2003 well above anything Javy did here in his three years combined. Add to that the fact the Loaiza netted Contreras, and its a no-brainer.
James Baldwin should be on the list before Vasquez.

Warriorjan
12-31-2009, 01:50 AM
I love Jim Thome but Frank had an MVP year in 2000 and really powered the team, plus he had the other decent years already referenced. Plus with Thome it always seemed to be either home run or strike out, which wasn't really true with Frank. And I'm firmly in the Crede over Perry camp.

Sam Spade
12-31-2009, 02:52 AM
I find it pretty sad that crede or perry are the standout best players at 3b for a whole decade. I might cry.

SOXfnNlansing
12-31-2009, 03:07 AM
2 AJ
3 PK
4 Durham
5 Crede
6 Uribe
7 Pods
8 Aaron
9 Dye

Durham was a great fielder with speed and had a nice bat. Great situational hitter (like Gooch was). Uribe was brought to this team from Colorado and was great at times. His WS play helped this team sweep the Astros. Pods was the key to a lot of early leads the '05 team grabbed, taking pressure off the pitching staff. El Cabio hit a lot of Hrs and doubles, hit for an above average, but was lazy and not a good fielder (just like Pods). As far as left field goes, Pods was more important in that decade than El Cabio was imo. Maggs was a great stats wise, but we won it all with MVP Dye. Maggs isn't a grinder. He's a better hitter than Dye, but it's pretty close imo.

Bottom line is we won the WS in this decade. It was 88 years since the last title. Pods and Dye were on that team, El Cabio and Maggs weren't.

DH wise, Thome had 4 nice years on the team; hit a bunch of home runs, pushed us over the top in the blackout game..... Thomas was a big part of the 2000 divisional winning team-2004... A HUGE PART OF THAT! That is 5 above average years. Crazy Carl fit in nicely in '05. I'd have to give the nod to Big Frank because he's a White Sox forever. Thome will go in with an Indians cap.

Warriorjan
12-31-2009, 11:40 AM
Sam, I can't believe you're more unhappy that your third-base choices are Crede/Perry than that the second base choices are Iguchi/Durham, or shortstop is between Valentin/Uribe.
Second base won't be a problem in the next decade, as the only choice will be Bacon!