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Fenway
11-23-2009, 04:41 PM
I have a feeling Wrigley will soon rival Fenway for having more ads than a NASCAR car

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-23-cubs-chicago-nov23,0,5583467.story

ewokpelts
11-23-2009, 04:42 PM
what else is new?

SOXPHILE
11-23-2009, 04:58 PM
No, none of this is true. Wrigley Field is a shrine, baseball's Taj Mahal. There never was, nor will their ever be any advertising anywhere at Wrigley Field. Just the beautfiul ivy covered walls, and the timeless, wonderful scoreboard. The Cubs are sports most historic franchise playing in sports most historic park ever.

beasly213
11-23-2009, 05:01 PM
I really hate it when people complain about signs around the ball park that feature ads. My biggest pet peeve is when those fans talk about how "It loses its nostalgic charm when you put signs up everywhere."

BULL ****! Look at any photo from early to mid 20th centruy baseball. There are nothing but ads all over the outfield walls and around it.

Signs from "Hit it here for a steak" or "Chicago Tribune is #1" etc. "old time" baseball had just as many ads as today.

voodoochile
11-23-2009, 05:08 PM
I really hate it when people complain about signs around the ball park that feature ads. My biggest pet peeve is when those fans talk about how "It loses its nostalgic charm when you put signs up everywhere."

BULL ****! Look at any photo from early to mid 20th centruy baseball. There are nothing but ads all over the outfield walls and around it.

Signs from "Hit it here for a steak" or "Chicago Tribune is #1" etc. "old time" baseball had just as many ads as today.

Probably more actually. Before TV companies relied on billboards at busy locations to spread their name and products visually. Locations that drew up to a million people a year were popular places to place advertising.

Fenway
11-23-2009, 05:24 PM
I really hate it when people complain about signs around the ball park that feature ads. My biggest pet peeve is when those fans talk about how "It loses its nostalgic charm when you put signs up everywhere."

BULL ****! Look at any photo from early to mid 20th centruy baseball. There are nothing but ads all over the outfield walls and around it.

Signs from "Hit it here for a steak" or "Chicago Tribune is #1" etc. "old time" baseball had just as many ads as today.

http://stadiumpage.com/stadiumgraveyard/fen42.jpg

Oldest known color photo of Fenway in 1942 shows 'green monster' wasn't so green

Red Barchetta
11-23-2009, 05:29 PM
No, none of this is true. Wrigley Field is a shrine, baseball's Taj Mahal. There never was, nor will their ever be any advertising anywhere at Wrigley Field. Just the beautfiul ivy covered walls, and the timeless, wonderful scoreboard. The Cubs are sports most historic franchise playing in sports most historic park ever.

What kills me is how the Tribune company for years marketed "historic Wrigley Field" and all things beautiful about this baseball heaven on earth while slamming Comiskey II as the "ballmall", etc. Even after the US Cellular renovations.

Throughout this time, The Cell is much more family-friendly with their advertising compared to Wrigley. Our billboards were for (ironically) The Chicago Tribune, LaSalle Bank, etc. while Wrigley promoted family-friendly activities like alcohol (Budweiser) and gambling (Horshoe Casino). :rolleyes:

Shoeless_Jeff
11-23-2009, 06:19 PM
I've never seen this so called "Wrigley Field" or these "Chicago Cubs" that supposedly play there. I don't believe they exist. The idea that fans would flock by the thousands to see a team with such a horrible losing tradition and be proud of it?... preposterous!!

LongLiveFisk
11-23-2009, 08:01 PM
http://stadiumpage.com/stadiumgraveyard/fen42.jpg

Oldest known color photo of Fenway in 1942 shows 'green monster' wasn't so green

Wow...I find it surprising they would cover the green monster like that, especially back in those days. Do you know when the advertising came off?

Jerko
11-23-2009, 08:43 PM
You can't see it in person, but THIS drives me bat****....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oTwEGiup_Wo/SdzGigd-SfI/AAAAAAAAEmc/VTw0wCN47Kk/s400/SubwayGlassAd.jpg

KRS1
11-24-2009, 02:54 AM
You can't see it in person, but THIS drives me bat****....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oTwEGiup_Wo/SdzGigd-SfI/AAAAAAAAEmc/VTw0wCN47Kk/s400/SubwayGlassAd.jpg

I don't see what the big deal is? I welcome utilizing ad space to keep sweaters ad free. Want to puke at advertisements in sports? Look no further than the various Euro leagues and their messed jerseys.

ewokpelts
11-24-2009, 03:18 AM
I don't see what the big deal is? I welcome utilizing ad space to keep sweaters ad free. Want to puke at advertisements in sports? Look no further than the various Euro leagues and their messed jerseys.I agree. Hockey JERSEYS, as well as all North American sports jerseys, should be ad free. there's no reaon why Best Buy needs to be on the Fire's jersey...

Fenway
11-24-2009, 03:32 AM
Wow...I find it surprising they would cover the green monster like that, especially back in those days. Do you know when the advertising came off?

I believe the ads came down in 1946. The park was ad free until 1976 when the video board was installed and they added ads behind the bleachers. The one exception was a billboard on the RF light tower for 'The Jimmy Fund'.

Now they have ads everywhere. I am surprised they haven't added an electric ribbon billboard as of yet but 2 years ago they installed new auxiliary scoreboards that function as ad boards between innings.

oeo
11-24-2009, 04:13 AM
http://stadiumpage.com/stadiumgraveyard/fen42.jpg

Oldest known color photo of Fenway in 1942 shows 'green monster' wasn't so green

Hey, Fenway Park at one time didn't look ugly. :redneck

doublem23
11-24-2009, 05:05 AM
Throughout this time, The Cell is much more family-friendly with their advertising compared to Wrigley. Our billboards were for (ironically) The Chicago Tribune, LaSalle Bank, etc. while Wrigley promoted family-friendly activities like alcohol (Budweiser) and gambling (Horshoe Casino). :rolleyes:

The Budweiser and Horseshoe Casino ads aren't on Wrigley's property. That would be like saying someone doesn't like kids because there's a bar down the street from their house. You also must have missed all the Miller Lite ads around the Cell.

doublem23
11-24-2009, 05:09 AM
I don't see what the big deal is? I welcome utilizing ad space to keep sweaters ad free. Want to puke at advertisements in sports? Look no further than the various Euro leagues and their messed jerseys.

I agree. Hockey JERSEYS, as well as all North American sports jerseys, should be ad free. there's no reaon why Best Buy needs to be on the Fire's jersey...

Eh, it makes more sense in soccer since there's no commercial breaks built into the game. As long as there's just one kit sponsor, it really never looks that bad. Now, if they start looking like stock car drivers and their ad collage jackets, that's something else.

DSpivack
11-24-2009, 07:04 AM
Eh, it makes more sense in soccer since there's no commercial breaks built into the game. As long as there's just one kit sponsor, it really never looks that bad. Now, if they start looking like stock car drivers and their ad collage jackets, that's something else.

Yeah, I pretty much identify Arsenal with Emirates Airlines right now, I'd say it's pretty successful advertising. I suppose the only weirdness comes when a deal is up and suddenly a team's jersey looks different. As long as they stay off national teams, I don't see the big deal, at least in soccer.

doublem23
11-24-2009, 07:14 AM
Yeah, I pretty much identify Arsenal with Emirates Airlines right now, I'd say it's pretty successful advertising. I suppose the only weirdness comes when a deal is up and suddenly a team's jersey looks different. As long as they stay off national teams, I don't see the big deal, at least in soccer.

Most AHL hockey teams have a "jersey" sponsor, and they get a small patch on their shoulder. That's not even that big of a deal.

http://www2.pjstar.com/images/uploads/btaction_thumb_thumb.jpg

Jerko
11-24-2009, 09:13 AM
I don't see what the big deal is? I welcome utilizing ad space to keep sweaters ad free. Want to puke at advertisements in sports? Look no further than the various Euro leagues and their messed jerseys.

What drives me crazy about the ads on the glass is this: Last night I was watching a game, and the thing was moving/flickering. Also, on one angle it was there, on another it wasn't, etc. It just annoys me. I agree with you about those Euro uniforms though.

Smokey Burg
11-24-2009, 01:39 PM
It appears to me that they (cubs) are just trying to block out a competitor who is not paying them for the ad. Also, going to a casino is a lot like going to wrigley field. Consider, people go to a casino with a lot of money in the hope that they will win more. People go to wrigley field with a lot of money in the hope of seeing a competent baseball team. Seems to me that the odds are nearly the same with the exception that at the casino one might actually leave with more dough than they went in with.

Shoeless_Jeff
11-24-2009, 02:07 PM
It appears to me that they (cubs) are just trying to block out a competitor who is not paying them for the ad. Also, going to a casino is a lot like going to wrigley field. Consider, people go to a casino with a lot of money in the hope that they will win more. People go to wrigley field with a lot of money in the hope of seeing a competent baseball team. Seems to me that the odds are nearly the same with the exception that at the casino one might actually leave with more dough than they went in with.

This is perhaps the best comparison ever.

Fenway
11-24-2009, 02:18 PM
What drives me crazy about the ads on the glass is this: Last night I was watching a game, and the thing was moving/flickering. Also, on one angle it was there, on another it wasn't, etc. It just annoys me. I agree with you about those Euro uniforms though.

The Blackhawks and CSN have been using it for home games this year

http://www.suntimes.com/business/lazare/1886025,CST-FIN-lew16.article

NESN has been testing it and you will soon see GIANT GLASS on the glass or 1-800-54GIANT which every Boston sports fan knows by heart.

NESN tried a virtual ad at Fenway for one game for GULF OIL in center field and the switchboard melted with complaints.

The system is a low end version of the first down marker and is usually only wired into one camera which is why you don't see it on replays or close up shots.

I hate the damn thing as it is one more thing to worry about in the truck. But they also keep my paychecks from bouncing :tongue:

soxinem1
11-24-2009, 02:29 PM
I really hate it when people complain about signs around the ball park that feature ads. My biggest pet peeve is when those fans talk about how "It loses its nostalgic charm when you put signs up everywhere."

BULL ****! Look at any photo from early to mid 20th centruy baseball. There are nothing but ads all over the outfield walls and around it.

Signs from "Hit it here for a steak" or "Chicago Tribune is #1" etc. "old time" baseball had just as many ads as today.

All crap-filled logic if you ask me. Just watch MLB Network showing old games, or the 'It Used To Be A Game' series on HBO. The old parks were flooded with signs and billboards.

In fact, once games began being televised, advertising was everywhere in an eye-shot of the cameras. The Polo Grounds, Ebbets Field, Comiskey, Wrigley, and Fenway were littered with more of this stuff than a minor-league park.

And that is not to mention the long-standing 'CITGO' sign over-looking Fenway, and the ever-annoying 'TORCO' that loomed over Wrigley.

In fact, the green monster was not always green, it was field-level advertising for many decades after the park opened!

ewokpelts
11-24-2009, 03:51 PM
a lot of teams dropped advertising from the outfield walls when the first wave of tv money rolled in.

it came back when teams needed more cash after free agency set in.

Fenway
11-24-2009, 06:46 PM
I noticed in the Trib that unlike the White Sox they have no plans to phase out organ music...OK they got THAT right

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-24-cubs-chicago-nov24,0,6959725.story

(last paragraph)

Fenway
11-24-2009, 06:55 PM
Fenway today has ads everywhere

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3368/3455213831_7a91a5d197.jpg?v=0


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/2389662851_3ec0801482.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3032/2653548299_af0046cfd4.jpg?v=0

http://jonestein.mlblogs.com/FenwayHancock.JPG

Fenway
11-24-2009, 07:02 PM
Braves Field was no better 1948

http://www.baseballforum.com/attachments/baseball-history-teams-yester-year/58d1151133337-boston-milwaukee-braves-braves-field-scoreboard-photo-edited.jpg

PalehosePlanet
11-25-2009, 01:48 PM
Braves Field was no better 1948

http://www.baseballforum.com/attachments/baseball-history-teams-yester-year/58d1151133337-boston-milwaukee-braves-braves-field-scoreboard-photo-edited.jpg

Fens, did that sign have the blowing smoke out of the end of the cigarette? Man, I loved those!

There were still a couple of those remaining (not in ballparks but in general) in the early to mid '70's but by the '80's were completely gone it seems.

Red Barchetta
11-25-2009, 02:59 PM
Fens, did that sign have the blowing smoke out of the end of the cigarette? Man, I loved those!

There were still a couple of those remaining (not in ballparks but in general) in the early to mid '70's but by the '80's were completely gone it seems.

It's amazing that we survived the 70s. I remember candy cigarettes with the little red tipped ends that came in packaging that looked like packs of cigarettes. :rolleyes::tongue::D::(:

Frontman
11-25-2009, 03:49 PM
The Budweiser and Horseshoe Casino ads aren't on Wrigley's property. That would be like saying someone doesn't like kids because there's a bar down the street from their house. You also must have missed all the Miller Lite ads around the Cell.

Plus back a few years ago having the "Best {CENSORED} Sports Show Period" ad in right center....

beasly213
11-25-2009, 04:14 PM
Fenway today has ads everywhere

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3368/3455213831_7a91a5d197.jpg?v=0


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/2389662851_3ec0801482.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3032/2653548299_af0046cfd4.jpg?v=0

http://jonestein.mlblogs.com/FenwayHancock.JPG


Yep and I see nothing wrong with that. It's not like ad space keeps people away from games. Cub fans will complain once ads take over Wrigley but they'll still go.

Fenway
11-25-2009, 08:28 PM
Fens, did that sign have the blowing smoke out of the end of the cigarette? Man, I loved those!

There were still a couple of those remaining (not in ballparks but in general) in the early to mid '70's but by the '80's were completely gone it seems.

Before my time but I asked an older friend today and he said if the Braves hit a homer it would light up and smoke would appear.

If a play was ruled a hit then the A HIT would flash.

Useless trivia. That scoreboard would wind up in Kansas City when the A's moved and stayed in place until Royals Stadium opened.

My Dad helped build the board and then helped take it apart to ship it to KC. It was the second electric board in MLB 1948 (Yankee Stadium was first)