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soltrain21
09-30-2009, 10:33 AM
ESPN just reported that Eric Wedge has been fired after seven seasons as the Indians manager.

khan
09-30-2009, 10:36 AM
Sounds about right to me. Seven years, no rings?

Too bad for him, but it's probably best for all involved that he move on.

asindc
09-30-2009, 10:39 AM
Scapegoat. He is not a bad manager, but the GM is not going to fire himself, now is he?

dickallen15
09-30-2009, 10:44 AM
He'll be back. He's highly thought of. I have a feeling he'll be guiding another team next season.

soxfanreggie
09-30-2009, 10:49 AM
I agree that he should be back managing soon, maybe not next year but certainly by 2011.

dickallen15
09-30-2009, 10:52 AM
I agree that he should be back managing soon, maybe not next year but certainly by 2011.

I just saw that Cleveland has to pay him $1.3 million next year. I would suppose that increases the likelihood of a nice vacation. I guess it would depend on the job offers though. If he can manage a team with a lot of talent, he may want to take that job. If all that is open is the Pittsburghs of the world, he probably should pass.

khan
09-30-2009, 10:59 AM
Scapegoat. He is not a bad manager, but the GM is not going to fire himself, now is he?

I don't know if he's a scapegoat or not. But I do agree that the fans and the media need to see a scalp.

I'd tend to wonder at how Victor Martinez and Travis Hafner and Jhonny Peralta all suddenly had worsening stats and more frequent injuries once MLB started testing for 'roids. Cleveland also seemed to have an overall bad string of luck with injuries in recent seasons, beyond the possible PED guys. Sizemore and Carmona seemed to have plateaued in their development for some reason.

Add into it the stupid additions of Carrie Wood and DeRosa, an overall craptacular BP, and a crappy team is the result in Cleveland. Oh, and giving away back-to-back Cy Young Award winners didn't help, either.

But at the end of the day, if the results aren't up to expectations, irrespective of who is at fault, someone is going to take the bullet. [EDIT] If I were to scapegoat anyone, it would have to be yet another incompetent boob of a GM, and players who may not have been what they were purported to be for one reason or another.

CWSpalehoseCWS
09-30-2009, 11:03 AM
Scapegoat. He is not a bad manager, but the GM is not going to fire himself, now is he?

Exactly what I was going to say.

The Immigrant
09-30-2009, 11:08 AM
They came awfully close to winning it all in 2007. They also would have done some damage in the playoffs had they passed us in 2005. Query what most of us would think of Ozzie as a manager if we lost to the Angels in the 2005 ALCS.

I'm surprised they let him go before the season is done.

KenBerryGrab
09-30-2009, 11:36 AM
Wedge gets a wedgie!

SoxyStu
09-30-2009, 11:41 AM
Scapegoat. He is not a bad manager, but the GM is not going to fire himself, now is he?

Bah. Wedge's teams underachieved. He deserved to be fired.

They fired him, but he will finish the season, I believe.

chisox12
09-30-2009, 11:45 AM
Not surprising at all. I was shocked he made it through this season.

Lip Man 1
09-30-2009, 11:48 AM
In his seven seasons Cleveland had two, count em' two winning seasons---2005 and 2007. I'm surprised he lasted that long.

Lip

kaufsox
09-30-2009, 11:59 AM
In his seven seasons Cleveland had two, count em' two winning seasons---2005 and 2007. I'm surprised he lasted that long.

Lip

yep, as my dad likes to point out (big Indians fan) and they always got off to slow starts, with the exception of 2007. I'm surprised he didn't get fired at the midway point this year.

MarkZ35
09-30-2009, 12:14 PM
Wow. I'm not sure how much blame you can really put on him. Especially this year. Any team with Kerry Wood as closer is doomed.

gobears1987
09-30-2009, 12:19 PM
How could Wedge win when his rotation included Pavano as the #3 starter and also featured Jeremy Sowers? Mark Shapiro just found his scapegoat.

veeter
09-30-2009, 12:38 PM
Bah. Wedge's teams underachieved. He deserved to be fired.

They fired him, but he will finish the season, I believe.Add me to the 'Eric Wedge is overrated' camp. He deserves the axe.

oeo
09-30-2009, 12:40 PM
I've never seen so many nice things said about Eric Wedge. I thought this was going to happen last year.

SoxGirl4Life
09-30-2009, 12:45 PM
According to ESPN, the whole staff is gone. Yikes.

EMachine10
09-30-2009, 12:59 PM
According to ESPN, the whole staff is gone. Yikes.
I was about to post this. They are clearing house - all coaches shown the door, but as the article points out, they could be taken back in by the new manager.

jmeneghini1433
09-30-2009, 01:07 PM
He will have a job by 2011.

MeteorsSox4367
09-30-2009, 01:08 PM
How about Lou Brown as the Indians' new manager? He seemed to have some good luck in Cleveland.

"Come on Dorn, get in front of the damn ball! Don't give me this "olé" bull(bleep)!"

PatK
09-30-2009, 01:43 PM
Only 2 winning seasons, yet how many times were they picked to win the division?

SoxSpeed22
09-30-2009, 01:47 PM
Only 2 winning seasons, yet how many times were they picked to win the division?It was the same old story. They start slowly, make their charge in the second half. Everybody goes gaga over them and jumps on their bandwagon. The next season, they fall flat on their faces in the first half, play well after they're out of it and people jump back onto the bandwagon. It was pretty much a cycle. There were a lot of things wrong with the Indians aside from 2007 and 2005 (up until the last week). The manager ultimately takes the fall for it. Someone will hire him soon though.

Twins_Morneau
09-30-2009, 01:53 PM
Sign him up Kansas City, or Cubs..

Boondock Saint
09-30-2009, 01:55 PM
Only 2 winning seasons, yet how many times were they picked to win the division?

Nobody's going to be picking them next year when their roster consists of Grady Sizemore and the not ready for prime time players.

thomas35forever
09-30-2009, 02:11 PM
While this is a good move for Cleveland, I still don't see them returning to respectability anytime soon. Sizemore will be terrific, but that's it.

bigsoxfan420
09-30-2009, 03:18 PM
So apparently he is finishing out the season? He's sitting in the dugout right now.

BleacherBandit
09-30-2009, 03:56 PM
So apparently he is finishing out the season? He's sitting in the dugout right now.

That's ridiculous. I know you can't really orient a new manager for only a handfull of games left in the season, but why couldn't they have waited to fire him AFTER the season?

GlassSox
09-30-2009, 04:09 PM
That's ridiculous. I know you can't really orient a new manager for only a handfull of games left in the season, but why couldn't they have waited to fire him AFTER the season?

I was thinking the same thing about why did they fire everyone before the season was over.

Hitmen77
09-30-2009, 04:19 PM
According to ESPN, the whole staff is gone. Yikes.

Even their hitting coach?
:duck:

GlassSox
09-30-2009, 05:13 PM
Even their hitting coach?
:duck:

I doubt it, you know you can't fire a hitting coach :tongue:

mrfourni
09-30-2009, 05:14 PM
I disagree. Say you are the hitting coach, wouldn't you want as much notice as possible that you were being let go so you could try to find another gig?
That's ridiculous. I know you can't really orient a new manager for only a handfull of games left in the season, but why couldn't they have waited to fire him AFTER the season?

soxinem1
09-30-2009, 05:54 PM
Most of his years as manager I do not beleive they had the horses to contend, especially with Shapiro rebuilding every other year and starting pitchers consistently getting hurt.

But he'll be on MLB Network soon, I'm sure. I can see the debates with him and Bobby Valentine (at least until Bobby V becomes manager of WAS or CLE).

palehozenychicty
10-01-2009, 12:07 AM
In his seven seasons Cleveland had two, count em' two winning seasons---2005 and 2007. I'm surprised he lasted that long.

Lip


Indeed. I know for a fact that Ozzie would not last seven seasons with two winning records. It proves that the Indians and the Dolan family are not committed to winning. As J. Mascis said, whatever's cool with me! :cool:

GoSox2K3
10-01-2009, 09:38 AM
Even their hitting coach?
:duck:


I don't know why he would get the ax! I think it's been shouted into all of us at WSI that a hitting coach has no accountability for a team's offensive woes.
:stirpot:

soxfanreggie
10-02-2009, 12:24 AM
But he'll be on MLB Network soon, I'm sure. I can see the debates with him and Bobby Valentine (at least until Bobby V becomes manager of WAS or CLE).


For some reason, I just can't see Bobby V. In Cleveland.

gobears1987
10-02-2009, 12:47 AM
Joe McCarthy wouldn't win with the players Shapiro gave Wedge.

Foulke You
10-02-2009, 04:39 PM
Nobody's going to be picking them next year when their roster consists of Grady Sizemore and the not ready for prime time players.
I'd amend that to say "Grady Sizemore, Shin-Soo Choo, and the not ready for prime time players."

Foulke You
10-02-2009, 04:42 PM
For some reason, I just can't see Bobby V. In Cleveland.
The Indians website is saying that Red Sox pitching coach John Farrell or former Indians manager Mike Hargrove could be the favorites. They are also saying it is unlikely that they will hire "from within" and take their AAA or AA manager to The Show.