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Whitesoxfan23
08-20-2009, 03:05 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9960962/Sources:-D-backs-P-Garland-clears-waivers

jabrch
08-20-2009, 03:15 PM
Nobody would have wanted to pay him what he makes - so it is no surprise. The question now is how much will AZ eat to unload him?

Whitesoxfan23
08-20-2009, 03:16 PM
Nobody would have wanted to pay him what he makes - so it is no surprise. The question now is how much will AZ eat to unload him?


I was thinking the same thing. To say he is overpaid, is a huge, huge, understatement. He hasn't had a good season really either.

RCWHITESOX
08-20-2009, 03:18 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9960962/Sources:-D-backs-P-Garland-clears-waivers

We don't need him! His numbers are horrible; and that's pitching in the National League. Oh theres also his contract. Wow!

Konerko05
08-20-2009, 03:18 PM
Let's have 3/4 of our World Series winning starting rotation fight it out for the fifth spot in the rotation.

Whitesoxfan23
08-20-2009, 03:20 PM
We don't need him! His numbers are horrible; and that's pitching in the National League. Oh theres also his contract. Wow!


When did I ever say that we needed him? I was just reporting that he cleared waivers.:scratch:

Marqhead
08-20-2009, 03:29 PM
The 2005 White Sox reunion tour rolls on!

No thanks.

HomeFish
08-20-2009, 03:47 PM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/do-not-want.jpg

VeeckAsInWreck
08-20-2009, 03:48 PM
Thanks for the memories Jon, but I'd pass on him.

Besides, TCQ is already using #20.

http://soxwincubslose.mlblogs.com/carlos%20quentin.jpg

KenBerryGrab
08-20-2009, 04:06 PM
We're putting the band back together!

Dibbs
08-20-2009, 04:38 PM
Coop will fix 'em

NoNeckEra
08-20-2009, 05:41 PM
We're putting the band back together!

And we still need a "base" player.

Whitesoxfan23
08-20-2009, 05:50 PM
Let's trade Rios for Rowand, and we are all set.

doublem23
08-20-2009, 05:54 PM
Thanks for the memories Jon, but I'd pass on him.

Besides, TCQ is already using #20.


That's all right, he can just pull a Freddy and wear #2.

Hopefully Jose and Jake will take care of this problem for the rest of 2009. TBH, though, for the right price, I'd take Garland over Hudson for this year.

TheOneDawg
08-20-2009, 06:02 PM
why the majority of sox fans hate jon garland is beyond me

tstrike2000
08-20-2009, 06:10 PM
why the majority of sox fans hate jon garland is beyond me

No hate, he's just overpaid for being not a very good pitcher.

102605
08-20-2009, 06:12 PM
Livan Hernandez was just released. I would rather kick the tires with him at the league minimum.

Billy Wagner is on waivers too. I wonder if the Mets will eat almost all of the money if we send them something decent.

TommyJohn
08-20-2009, 06:14 PM
why the majority of sox fans hate jon garland is beyond meI don't hate him. He had two great seasons (2005-06) and contributed mightily to the World Champion team. However, in 2007 it seemed he was either shutting out the Royals or getting his butt kicked by everybody else. He is not doing well this year and is not needed.

Taliesinrk
08-20-2009, 06:28 PM
Livan Hernandez was just released. I would rather kick the tires with him at the league minimum.

Billy Wagner is on waivers too. I wonder if the Mets will eat almost all of the money if we send them something decent.

I thought Wagner was done for the season, no?

slavko
08-20-2009, 06:34 PM
why the majority of sox fans hate jon garland is beyond me


Did you get this idea from lurking here? I can't remember if he was included on the recent list of "Players It's OK to Hate." I don't know if it's the majority, but there's a vocal minority as with everyone on that list. This shouldn't obscure the fact that there's no need to bring him back now or ever.

102605
08-20-2009, 06:39 PM
I thought Wagner was done for the season, no?

Nope. Activated from the DL today. He worked 6 or 7 scoreless innings in his rehab appearances if I remember correctly. He was also hitting low 90's on the radar. Since he will be pitching the last month to try and earn a contract for 2010 I bet he will put up some decent #'s. Better #'s than Randy Williams at least.

all*star quentin
08-20-2009, 07:22 PM
We're putting the band back together!


Sweet!

captainclutch24
08-20-2009, 07:32 PM
Let's trade Rios for Rowand, and we are all set.

2. then sign Pablo Ozuna to a minor league deal while he waits to get off his steroids suspensions
3. Sign Crazy Carl
4. Fields for Crede
5. Purchase the contract of Timo Perez
6. Get El Duque to come out of retirement
7. Trade some minor leaguer for Juan Uribe
8. Bring Tadahito back from Japan
9. Get Dustin Hermanson to come out of retirement
10. Get Cliff Politte to come out of retirement
11. Trade for Neal Cotts and hope he recovers fast from Tommy John
12. Acquire Damaso from the Yankees
13. Sign Luis Vizcaino
14. Sign Cris Widger
15. Trade for Geoff Blum
16. Trade for Willie Harris
And then some people at WSI would finally be happy

Rohan
08-20-2009, 08:17 PM
Let's have 3/4 of our World Series winning starting rotation fight it out for the fifth spot in the rotation.

This would be epic and hilarious.

Hitmen77
08-20-2009, 08:34 PM
Let's trade Rios for Rowand, and we are all set.

Alex Rios.....Aaron Rowand. Get it? The same initials!!!!! Coincidence? I think not!

Shoeless_Jeff
08-20-2009, 09:32 PM
This thread blows.

StillMissOzzie
08-20-2009, 09:32 PM
Nobody would have wanted to pay him what he makes - so it is no surprise. The question now is how much will AZ eat to unload him?

I was thinking the same thing. To say he is overpaid, is a huge, huge, understatement. He hasn't had a good season really either.

I don't know where this "ridiculously overpaid" talk is coming from. According to Cot's, Garland is getting $7.25M for the 2009 season, so if the Sox got him TODAY, he might cost all of $1.4M for the balance of the season. Then, he's got a $10M mutual option that would cost, at the most, $2.5M to buy out if the Sox declined the option, or $1M if Garland opts out.

I don't think he's needed either, but I don't think it's because he's overpaid. Besides, Peavy is probably getting paid more to pitch in AAA with no guarantee that he'll pitch at all in the bigs this year.

SMO
:gulp:

Whitesoxfan23
08-20-2009, 09:44 PM
I don't know where this "ridiculously overpaid" talk is coming from. According to Cot's, Garland is getting $7.25M for the 2009 season, so if the Sox got him TODAY, he might cost all of $1.4M for the balance of the season. Then, he's got a $10M mutual option that would cost, at the most, $2.5M to buy out if the Sox declined the option, or $1M if Garland opts out.

I don't think he's needed either, but I don't think it's because he's overpaid. Besides, Peavy is probably getting paid more to pitch in AAA with no guarantee that he'll pitch at all in the bigs this year.

SMO
:gulp:


The main reason though KW took on the Peavy contract wasn't for this year, it was for the upcoming years. Peavy is ours for the next 3 years.

hawkjt
08-21-2009, 12:38 PM
I don't know where this "ridiculously overpaid" talk is coming from. According to Cot's, Garland is getting $7.25M for the 2009 season, so if the Sox got him TODAY, he might cost all of $1.4M for the balance of the season. Then, he's got a $10M mutual option that would cost, at the most, $2.5M to buy out if the Sox declined the option, or $1M if Garland opts out.

I don't think he's needed either, but I don't think it's because he's overpaid. Besides, Peavy is probably getting paid more to pitch in AAA with no guarantee that he'll pitch at all in the bigs this year.

SMO
:gulp:

As indicated in the article, it would cost a team 4 million to pick up Garland when all compensation is considered. He might get 6 -7 starts...and hopefully win 3 -4 games...steep price for a gamble. But I hope the twins and tigers pass.

Lip Man 1
08-21-2009, 12:52 PM
TS2000:

Pitchers in general are considered to be overpaid but that's the reality of things when pitching, the most important aspect in the game, is in short supply.

Lip

Red Barchetta
08-21-2009, 02:11 PM
Another example of the genius of the SOX organization in analyzing pitching talent. Popular decisions at the time or not, I can't think of too many pitchers the SOX released, traded, moved, etc. that turned out to be bad decisions in the long run. Nothing in the scope of the Cubs and Greg Maddox or Dennis Eckersley (although it took the smarts of Tony LaRussa to turn him into a reliever).

HomeFish
08-21-2009, 02:24 PM
Alex Rios.....Aaron Rowand. Get it? The same initials!!!!! Coincidence? I think not!

So what you're saying is that the Rios acquisition is a sign that Rowand will soon come again?

wmusox9
08-21-2009, 02:59 PM
That's all right, he can just pull a Freddy and wear #2.

Hopefully Jose and Jake will take care of this problem for the rest of 2009. TBH, though, for the right price, I'd take Garland over Hudson for this year.



:nellie

Ahem

Also it would be hysterical to have Garcia, Jose and Garland going for the 5th spot but its not gonna happen.

tstrike2000
08-21-2009, 06:01 PM
TS2000:

Pitchers in general are considered to be overpaid but that's the reality of things when pitching, the most important aspect in the game, is in short supply.

Lip

Lip,

I agree with you on that. The going rate for a SP is high. In looking at Garland's numbers over the last few years, he was making almost twice as much last year while posting an almost 5.00 ERA which was part of the of the being overpaid I was referring to, coupled with being 3rd in the NL in losses this year. On the flipside though he's a 200+ IP guy every year and which isn't easy to find year in and year out.