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illini81887
08-13-2009, 06:23 PM
Strikes out side in 1st

Whitesoxfan23
08-13-2009, 06:24 PM
Through the 1st inning. He struck out all 3 batters.

Rohan
08-13-2009, 06:25 PM
Strikes out side in 1st

Where are you monitoring this at?

SoxGirl4Life
08-13-2009, 06:25 PM
http://asx.aicmail.net/mlb/knights.asx


Game time was 6:15 CDT. He struck out the side in the first inning.

VeeckAsInWreck
08-13-2009, 06:25 PM
You can follow it on gameday here.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2009_08_13_pawaaa_chraaa_1

illini81887
08-13-2009, 06:25 PM
Where are you monitoring this at?
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2009_08_13_pawaaa_chraaa_1

SoxGirl4Life
08-13-2009, 06:25 PM
lol.. I just posted that in the minor league board

Here's audio:

http://asx.aicmail.net/mlb/knights.asx

Whitesoxfan23
08-13-2009, 06:26 PM
I meant to post this in the Minor League section. Can one of the mods please move it for me?

Rohan
08-13-2009, 06:26 PM
Brian Anderson isn't starting in Pawtucket?

Edit: (sorry for being a little off topic)

SoxGirl4Life
08-13-2009, 06:26 PM
Audio:

http://asx.aicmail.net/mlb/knights.asx

SoxGirl4Life
08-13-2009, 06:27 PM
We need a few threads merged. I think we're all a little excited!

VeeckAsInWreck
08-13-2009, 06:30 PM
Are we doing chat for Peavy's start?

Whitesoxfan23
08-13-2009, 06:32 PM
Sounds great. Meet me in there.

DumpJerry
08-13-2009, 06:34 PM
Game time was 6:15 CDT. He struck out the side in the first inning.
Bring him up, Kenny!

Stoky44
08-13-2009, 06:35 PM
wow josh looks bad in that picture, hat is way too big

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=3B&sid=t494&t=p_pbp&pid=435222

Whitesoxfan23
08-13-2009, 06:36 PM
wow josh looks bad in that picture, hat is way too big


I thought the same exact thing.

Stoky44
08-13-2009, 06:36 PM
Peavy on the front page of knights website

VeeckAsInWreck
08-13-2009, 06:37 PM
I'm listening to the audio and I want to say. Can we call this guy up and send Farmio down?

Whitesoxfan23
08-13-2009, 06:38 PM
Go Peavy

gobears1987
08-13-2009, 06:39 PM
I have a feeling that the Knights are getting a record number of listeners for their online broadcast.

Rohan
08-13-2009, 06:41 PM
I have a feeling that the Knights are getting a record number of listeners for their online broadcast.

I don't know.. Michael Jordan played for the Knights for a bit too.

VeeckAsInWreck
08-13-2009, 06:42 PM
Wow. The Knights got Jake a run. He may not want to come to Chicago. :redneck

illini81887
08-13-2009, 06:42 PM
I see Betemit is still striking out every time

Whitesoxfan23
08-13-2009, 06:44 PM
A couple of us are in the chat, if you wanna join.

Whitesoxfan23
08-13-2009, 06:44 PM
A couple of us are in the chat, if you wanna join.

JermaineDye05
08-13-2009, 06:46 PM
Damn minor league baseball for not having video and damn it's gameday for not showing velocity.

gobears1987
08-13-2009, 06:50 PM
I don't know.. Michael Jordan played for the Knights for a bit too.
I thought he was on the Barons. I wouldn't know either way. I was way too young to remember that era.

soltrain21
08-13-2009, 06:54 PM
I don't know.. Michael Jordan played for the Knights for a bit too.

Not everyone had the Internet at that time - and I'm pretty sure web streaming wasn't around.

Rohan
08-13-2009, 06:55 PM
Not everyone had the Internet at that time - and I'm pretty sure web streaming wasn't around.

True. I was wrong anyway. He stayed with the barons.

VeeckAsInWreck
08-13-2009, 06:57 PM
I thought he was on the Barons. I wouldn't know either way. I was way too young to remember that era.

:geezer: Oh what times those were. Back in those days, you had a beeper and when you got paged, you had to find a pay phone.

gobears1987
08-13-2009, 06:58 PM
:geezer: Oh what times those were. Back in those days, you had a beeper and when you got paged, you had to find a pay phone.
What's a pay phone?

illini81887
08-13-2009, 06:59 PM
5 K thru 3 innings for Peavy. Anyone know if hes on any kind of pitch count?

gobears1987
08-13-2009, 07:00 PM
Brian Anderson isn't starting in Pawtucket?

Edit: (sorry for being a little off topic)
Haven't you heard? Terry Francona has a grudge against him so he won't let him on the MLB club and is telling the AAA manager to bench him. As usual management just wants to keep his amazing talent down.

gobears1987
08-13-2009, 07:00 PM
5 K thru 3 innings for Peavy. Anyone know if hes on any kind of pitch count?
I wouldn't know for sure, but they usually do have strict pitch or inning counts for rehab starts. Think of it as a first or second spring training start since that's basically what this rehab is for Peavy.

SoxGirl4Life
08-13-2009, 07:02 PM
Haven't you heard? Terry Francona has a grudge against him so he won't let him on the MLB club and is telling the AAA manager to bench him. As usual management just wants to keep his amazing talent down.

Its because he's not Italian. Duh.

VeeckAsInWreck
08-13-2009, 07:02 PM
5 K thru 3 innings for Peavy. Anyone know if hes on any kind of pitch count?

That's it for Jake tonight. He was on a 3 inning or 50 pitch count. Whichever came first.

SoxGirl4Life
08-13-2009, 07:02 PM
5 K thru 3 innings for Peavy. Anyone know if hes on any kind of pitch count?

50 pitches or 3 innings, whichever comes first. He's done.

gobears1987
08-13-2009, 07:03 PM
That's it for Jake tonight. He was on a 3 inning or 50 pitch count. Whichever came first.
I didn't see what he did, but it sure sounded great. I guess we'll have to just hear what the coaches say about what they saw until we can know if he was as good as it sounded.

DumpJerry
08-13-2009, 07:04 PM
5 K thru 3 innings for Peavy. Anyone know if hes on any kind of pitch count?
:KW
*reaches for the telephone*

Rohan
08-13-2009, 07:05 PM
I didn't see what he did, but it sure sounded great. I guess we'll have to just hear what the coaches say about what they saw until we can know if he was as good as it sounded.

Judging from the radio commentary (which left a lot to the imagination), he seems like he has his pitches intact. This is a pretty positive outing.

VeeckAsInWreck
08-13-2009, 07:13 PM
Jake threw 43 pitches and 26 were for strikes. In 3 innings he already got more run support than Buehrle did last night.

KenBerryGrab
08-13-2009, 07:13 PM
3 IP, 43 pitches, no ER, one BB, one hit, 5K.

TheVulture
08-13-2009, 07:14 PM
wow josh looks bad in that picture, hat is way too big

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=3B&sid=t494&t=p_pbp&pid=435222

Looks like Josh hits AAA pitching about as well as major league pitching.

dwalteroo
08-13-2009, 07:20 PM
Me likey!

soxfanreggie
08-13-2009, 07:29 PM
Me likey!

I agree! You can't really do much better than he did.

VeeckAsInWreck
08-13-2009, 07:50 PM
Peavy only did that well because Pawtucket gave Brian Anderson the night off.

whitesoxfan
08-13-2009, 07:51 PM
Numbers look good. Anyone know how his velocity was and how he was feeling afterwords yet?

illinifan1368
08-13-2009, 08:25 PM
To hell with 3 starts...2 tops

eastchicagosoxfan
08-13-2009, 08:48 PM
Peavy only did that well because Pawtucket gave Brian Anderson the night off.

:)

JB98
08-13-2009, 09:21 PM
Peavy only did that well because Pawtucket gave Brian Anderson the night off.

Anderson was 2-for-13 with 7 Ks in the first three games of the series. :D:

rocky biddle
08-13-2009, 09:28 PM
Anderson was 2-for-13 with 7 Ks in the first three games of the series. :D:

On Mully and Hanley yesterday morning Hanley made the joke that Freddy Garcia had a good outing, but three of his K's didn't count because they came against BA. Not sure if it was true or not, but still pretty funny.

tacosalbarojas
08-13-2009, 10:20 PM
Numbers look good. Anyone know how his velocity was and how he was feeling afterwords yet?Topped out at low 90s...

Whitesoxfan23
08-13-2009, 10:42 PM
Topped out at low 90s...


How fast does Jake normally throw?

JB98
08-13-2009, 10:44 PM
how fast does jake normally throw?

92-94.

skobabe8
08-13-2009, 10:52 PM
Anderson was 2-for-13 with 7 Ks in the first three games of the series. :D:

:o:

Is that true?

Who in the hell scouted BA when he was at U of A?? They never saw his long ass swing??

JB98
08-13-2009, 11:06 PM
:o:

Is that true?

Who in the hell scouted BA when he was at U of A?? They never saw his long ass swing??

I wouldn't have posted it if it weren't true. I went through the boxes and did the math myself. Anderson is currently hitting .260 in AAA, and he had a brutal series against Charlotte.

Speaking of long-ass swings, Fields is hitting .222 down in Charlotte, although he did homer this evening.

skobabe8
08-13-2009, 11:17 PM
I wouldn't have posted it if it weren't true. I went through the boxes and did the math myself. Anderson is currently hitting .260 in AAA, and he had a brutal series against Charlotte.

Speaking of long-ass swings, Fields is hitting .222 down in Charlotte, although he did homer this evening.

Good Lord.

Our scouting was a joke for way too long.

JermaineDye05
08-14-2009, 12:00 AM
92-94.

Agreed. Jake usually is around 93-94, however he gets tremendous movement on his fastball. He can cut it in on left handers and run it in on righties which makes him so effective. Jake's just building his arm strength up right now. As you can see though, he can still be effective even without his good velocity because of his good movement.

UofCSoxFan
08-14-2009, 12:06 AM
WGN had about 15 secs of video...showed Peavey acing a batter on an inside fastball and striking another with a slider or possibly a changeup. The camera was from behind home plate so you could really see the speed differential and movement. I think stamina is the only reason you keep him in the minors. He looks close to ready once he builds up arm strenght.

gobears1987
08-14-2009, 12:08 AM
I think stamina is the only reason you keep him in the minors. He looks close to ready once he builds up arm strenght.
You hit that one on the head. Peavy and Cooper both said the purpose of the rehab starts is to build stamina. The best comparison would be to spring training. After a pitcher has been shut down for as long as Peavy has, you basically have to go through the same routine as spring training.

spawn
08-14-2009, 06:55 AM
On Mully and Hanley yesterday morning Hanley made the joke that Freddy Garcia had a good outing, but three of his K's didn't count because they came against BA. Not sure if it was true or not, but still pretty funny.
It's true. He did K BA 3 times in his outing.

voodoochile
08-14-2009, 09:14 AM
So 18th, 23rd and then he's up just like has been predicted barring a setback. That's great news.

jabrch
08-14-2009, 09:48 AM
So that would have him pitching @ NY, @ Minny and then his home debut vs Boston.

gobears1987
08-14-2009, 10:13 AM
So that would have him pitching @ NY, @ Minny and then his home debut vs Boston.
I really like having him lined up to face those three teams.

jabrch
08-14-2009, 10:19 AM
I really like having him lined up to face those three teams.

Me too - in particular having him to go to Minny.

Marqhead
08-14-2009, 10:21 AM
Me too - in particular having him to go to Minny.

Why? So he can be demoralized by automatic defeat and become useless for the remainder of the season? :redneck

SoxGirl4Life
08-14-2009, 10:25 AM
Why? So he can be demoralized by automatic defeat and become useless for the remainder of the season? :redneck

NO! We're sweeping the f'n Twins in that Dome as a farewell send-off!

Mod edit: It's a language filter violation. Please don't make me give a rip to a subscribing member...

hawkjt
08-14-2009, 10:27 AM
It will be interesting to see how they handle the last month with the starting pitching...Sox have 4 off days after Sept 1.
If Jake starts on 8/28 vs the Yanks then it could go as follows if they stick to a every 5th day with him...
8/28 -at NYY
9/2- at Minn
9/7-Bos
9/12- at Angels
9/17- at Sea- why the hell do we have to go back to that hellhole?
9/22- Minn
9/27-Det
10/3-at Det
10/5- season over...sox win!

That would be a heckuva good utility out of Jake if he could handle that schedule...big games the whole month. No easy ones on that list.
Playoffs start on 10/ 7?...MB goes first game,then Jake would be ready for game 2.

Hey, a guy can dream,right?

gobears1987
08-14-2009, 10:28 AM
NO! We're sweeping the f'n Twins in that Dome as a farewell send-off!After the sweep we are getting all of WSI's members together, busing up to Minny, and demolishing the stadium ourselves!!!

voodoochile
08-14-2009, 10:37 AM
After the sweep we are getting all of WSI's members together, busing up to Minny, and demolishing the stadium ourselves!!!

The Bears might like that, but I doubt the Vikings would be real happy...

RedHeadPaleHoser
08-14-2009, 10:38 AM
So 18th, 23rd and then he's up just like has been predicted barring a setback. That's great news.

I don't know voodoo...all the media's saying that the Sox might be rushing him back.....:rolleyes:

Imagine the roar at the Cell when he pitches his first home game. Man.

Stoky44
08-14-2009, 10:49 AM
Mod edit: It's a language filter violation. Please don't make me give a rip to a subscribing member...

Sorry off topic i know.
Not trying to be a smart ass (honest), but wondering if "freaking" counts against this filter/ban? But I am guessing its along the lines as shoot and gosh darn it. I am just trying to avoid bans.

Edit: Ok filter didn't take it out, so I guess I am safe.

voodoochile
08-14-2009, 10:52 AM
Sorry off topic i know.
Not trying to be a smart ass (honest), but wondering if "freaking" counts against this filter/ban? But I am guessing its along the lines as shoot and gosh darn it. I am just trying to avoid bans.

Edit: Ok filter didn't take it out, so I guess I am safe.

Right, basically you won't get a rip if you just type the words exactly as spelled and let the filter do it's job.

You can get a rip if you use filtered words to attack another poster, but used as a basic adjective it won't earn you any grief.

Here's an example:

Just type the ****ing word exactly as it's ****ing spelled and let the ****ing filter do it's ****ing job.

There is no problem with that sentence and I typed all of the starred out words properly.

Jaysox
08-14-2009, 12:30 PM
Right, basically you won't get a rip if you just type the words exactly as spelled and let the filter do it's job.

You can get a rip if you use filtered words to attack another poster, but used as a basic adjective it won't earn you any grief.

Here's an example:

Just type the ****ing word exactly as it's ****ing spelled and let the ****ing filter do it's ****ing job.

There is no problem with that sentence and I typed all of the starred out words properly.
Hahaha!! I can't help but laugh at that sentence. Didn't mean to :dtroll:

...
08-14-2009, 01:30 PM
It will be interesting to see how they handle the last month with the starting pitching...Sox have 4 off days after Sept 1.
If Jake starts on 8/28 vs the Yanks then it could go as follows if they stick to a every 5th day with him...
8/28 -at NYY
9/2- at Minn
9/7-Bos
9/12- at Angels
9/17- at Sea- why the hell do we have to go back to that hellhole?
9/22- Minn
9/27-Det
10/3-at Det
10/5- season over...sox win!

That would be a heckuva good utility out of Jake if he could handle that schedule...big games the whole month. No easy ones on that list.
Playoffs start on 10/ 7?...MB goes first game,then Jake would be ready for game 2.

Hey, a guy can dream,right?

Let's hope the offense picks it up here. I have to believe that other teams are just as inconsistent but man is it frustrating!

hula
08-14-2009, 07:17 PM
I was at the game in Charlotte last night to see Peavy. Left work early and drove down from Durham. He looked really good! Loved watching those batters do double takes as his pitches went whizzing by or totally wiffed them big time! The crowd really cheered for him - LOUD! Loved even more seeing all the Red Sox fans who showed up go silent! He looked really, really good!

It was strange to see Josh back in Charlotte again - or not really... What was even stranger was seeing Brian Anderson in the visitor's dugout!

Found out Peavy will be pitching on Tuesday in Durham so got some great seats for that game too! I really miss not living in Chicago to see the White Sox, but most of their minor league teams being here is a real treat.

I've never seen so many people in White Sox gear in Charlotte before. It was real nice for a change!! I almost wasn't sure where I was. Usually they have on their Knights hats/shirts. Several people in Padres shirts too with Peavy's name on it.

Jake only gave one autograph before the game, even tho alot of people were near the dugout waiting for him when he finished warming up. It was to the little kid who went to the mound with him before the game, (They usually have a little league team go out w/the players.) I thought that was classy!

After he finished up Torres came out and did okay. We left at the end of the 6th......had to drive back to Durham....bummer....

I'll post a couple pictures I took. My batteries decided to go dead in my camera so they're just with my cellphone.

Madscout
08-16-2009, 01:01 PM
It will be interesting to see how they handle the last month with the starting pitching...Sox have 4 off days after Sept 1.
If Jake starts on 8/28 vs the Yanks then it could go as follows if they stick to a every 5th day with him...
8/28 -at NYY
9/2- at Minn
9/7-Bos
9/12- at Angels
9/17- at Sea- why the hell do we have to go back to that hellhole?
9/22- Minn
9/27-Det
10/3-at Det
10/5- season over...sox win!

That would be a heckuva good utility out of Jake if he could handle that schedule...big games the whole month. No easy ones on that list.
Playoffs start on 10/ 7?...MB goes first game,then Jake would be ready for game 2.

Hey, a guy can dream,right?
Hate to play devils advocate, but are there any small games going out? We play something like 2/3 of our remaining games against teams with records over .500, as Stone keeps saying. I'm sure everyone's schedule looks like that, from Peavy to Mark to Jose.

...
08-16-2009, 01:06 PM
Hate to play devils advocate, but are there any small games going out? We play something like 2/3 of our remaining games against teams with records over .500, as Stone keeps saying. I'm sure everyone's schedule looks like that, from Peavy to Mark to Jose.

Right but what I think what the OP is pointing out is the fact that JAKE PEAVY, NOT Carlos Torres, Freddy Garcia, etc, will be starting those games. That is a HUGE boost to this team's playoff chances.

Hitmen77
08-18-2009, 09:13 AM
Is Peavy supposed to pitch for Charlotte tonight? I haven't heard anything, but it has been 5 days since his first start.

voodoochile
08-18-2009, 09:20 AM
Is Peavy supposed to pitch for Charlotte tonight? I haven't heard anything, but it has been 5 days since his first start.

According to the Charlotte Knights' website yes, Peavy starts tonight.

UofCSoxFan
08-18-2009, 09:36 AM
According to the Charlotte Knights' website yes, Peavy starts tonight.

Sweet. It would be nice to see him throw 70 to 75 pitchers or so.

voodoochile
08-18-2009, 09:54 AM
Sweet. It would be nice to see him throw 70 to 75 pitchers or so.

It should be first one was 50, so he should extend to at least 70 this time I would think. Then one more at 90 or whatever and he should be ready to go.

DickAllen72
08-18-2009, 04:28 PM
I read on another board that Comcast is going to be cutting in to Peavy's start for Charlotte tonight during the Sox game. Should be interesting.

VeeckAsInWreck
08-18-2009, 04:32 PM
It should be first one was 50, so he should extend to at least 70 this time I would think. Then one more at 90 or whatever and he should be ready to go.

They have his limit at 65 for today's start. However the team is letting Jake decide if he wants to throw more than 65 pitches.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090817&content_id=6472090&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

illinifan1368
08-18-2009, 04:41 PM
I read on another board that Comcast is going to be cutting in to Peavy's start for Charlotte tonight during the Sox game. Should be interesting.
Starting at 6, they will cut in for Peavy. Are they going to air Peavy instead of the White Sox after 7?

jabrch
08-18-2009, 06:12 PM
Starting at 6, they will cut in for Peavy. Are they going to air Peavy instead of the White Sox after 7?

Are you seeing something I am not?

Whitesoxfan23
08-18-2009, 06:16 PM
MLB network is showing it right now.

Whitesoxfan23
08-18-2009, 06:17 PM
Peavy in trouble. Runners on 1st and 3rd for Durham with 2 outs.

Whitesoxfan23
08-18-2009, 06:19 PM
Peavy already gave up 2 runs in the 1st inning.

JermaineDye05
08-18-2009, 06:20 PM
Jake got a bad break from the ump as he missed a strike in the at bat to Ruggiano which put him in a 2-0 count. Then a duck snort single scored 2. I like what I see from Jake's stuff, no surprise there.

JermaineDye05
08-18-2009, 06:36 PM
Wow and I thought we were bad defensively. I just saw the Knights botch a 3-6-1 DP and now Armstrong makes a weak throw to 2nd to try and get a base stealer and almost gets it into CF.

JermaineDye05
08-18-2009, 06:37 PM
The Box score is calling it a throwing error on Peavy when it was an errant throw to him?:scratch:

JermaineDye05
08-18-2009, 06:40 PM
So far Peavy's line is 2.0 IP 4 H 3 ER 2 K's 0 BB

Jake's thrown 30 pitches and 19 of them have been for strikes.

Whitesoxfan23
08-18-2009, 06:44 PM
So far Peavy's line is 2.0 IP 4 H 3 ER 2 K's 0 BB

Jake's thrown 30 pitches and 19 of them have been for strikes.


I would have liked to have seen alot better from Jake, to be honest.

illinifan1368
08-18-2009, 06:47 PM
I would have liked to have seen alot better from Jake, to be honest.
:shrug: Just get your arm strength up and lead us to the playoffs, Jake. No one will remember what you did in your rehab outings.

SoxFan64
08-18-2009, 06:50 PM
Trying to listen to the game on MiBL but it just crapped out. Is the same for others listening? Maybe there are too many people trying to listen to the game.

JermaineDye05
08-18-2009, 06:52 PM
Peavy just made Akinori Iwamura look horrible on a very good slider.

JermaineDye05
08-18-2009, 06:54 PM
Jake doesn't get the call on the outside corner to get Ruggiano, but then gets him swinging up and in.

The umps zone right now is a tea cup.

JermaineDye05
08-18-2009, 06:56 PM
This really is like a spring training outing right now as Jake is just going with his breaking pitch this inning with an occasional fastball.

A nice scoreless inning for Jake, he looked a lot better that inning.

VeeckAsInWreck
08-18-2009, 07:00 PM
Oh no! Kenny Williams has traded away some good arms for a guy who is getting hit hard in the minors!!! We sure could use Clayton Richard and Poreda right now!
:chickenlittle

JB98
08-18-2009, 07:03 PM
I don't care if he gives up 150 runs, just as long as he gets his arm back into shape. The results, good or bad, are completely meaningless.

Tragg
08-18-2009, 07:05 PM
I don't care if he gives up 150 runs, just as long as he gets his arm back into shape. The results, good or bad, are completely meaningless.
Exactly. This is like pre-season.

soxnut1018
08-18-2009, 07:14 PM
Exactly. This is like pre-season.

But the pre-season does mean something. I mean the lions went 4-0 last year. Oh wait...

Dibbs
08-18-2009, 10:46 PM
Last night, did anybody here John Kruk say Jake Peavy hasn't recorded an out past the 7th inning in a couple of years? Those guys can get away with anything they want to say. He has three games this year he has recorded an out past the 7th. Surprisingly, Peavy had one game in his Cy Young season where he recorded an out past the 7th.

nug0hs
08-19-2009, 10:07 AM
So this morning on The Score the guys mentioned "In case you didn't hear this story, turns out Peavy isn't feeling as well as we thought and his first Sox start will be pushed back until at least early September" -- Has anyone heard anything about this? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere.

35th and Shields
08-19-2009, 10:15 AM
So this morning on The Score the guys mentioned "In case you didn't hear this story, turns out Peavy isn't feeling as well as we thought and his first Sox start will be pushed back until at least early September" -- Has anyone heard anything about this? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere.

There was a small article on his start where Peavy says that he isn't nearly where he wants or needs to be or something like that. It did sound like a good possibility he would make two more starts in AAA rather then only one more.

Sockinchisox
08-19-2009, 10:46 AM
Cowley says Coop said Peavy will need at least two more rehab starts.

http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/3407035391

Paulwny
08-19-2009, 11:15 AM
"....., my body feels like it's January."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-19-peavy-watch-aug19,0,6172217.story

Hitmen77
08-19-2009, 11:19 AM
Cowley says Coop said Peavy will need at least two more rehab starts.

http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/3407035391

That pushes him back to Sept 2 at the earliest.

In the mean time, that means Freddy/Jose/some minor leaguer will be starting 4 times for us in the next 10 games: on Aug 24-25 at Fenway Park and Aug 29-30 at Yankee Stadium. :puking:

Wow, things may get even uglier before August ends.




EDIT: Actually, they'll be starting 5 of the next 11 games. I forgot to count today.

34 Inch Stick
08-19-2009, 04:20 PM
I really don't care whether his arm is 100% or not. He should be starting here by next week. 80% Peavy is better than 80% Garcia.

Whitesoxfan23
08-19-2009, 04:24 PM
I really don't care whether his arm is 100% or not. He should be starting here by next week. 80% Peavy is better than 80% Garcia.


20% Peavy is better than 100% Garcia. Lol.

Hitmen77
08-19-2009, 08:50 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-20-white-sox-brite-chicago-aug20,0,6398573.story

34 Inch Stick
08-19-2009, 08:58 PM
Am I reading this wrong or does this sound eerily like both the Bear receiver from last year and Prior in the past, that he will not return until he is absolutely sure he is 100%?

I think most people would be more than willing to take 5 innings of shut down pitching instead of his optimal 7 innings.

...
08-19-2009, 09:10 PM
That ****ing blows.

Konerko05
08-19-2009, 09:18 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-20-white-sox-brite-chicago-aug20,0,6398573.story

Does that last quote kind of sound like Peavy doesn't agree with how fast the Sox are pushing him along? He seems kind of irritated as if they are rushing him because they are in a divisional race.

hawkjt
08-19-2009, 09:35 PM
That pushes him back to Sept 2 at the earliest.

In the mean time, that means Freddy/Jose/some minor leaguer will be starting 4 times for us in the next 10 games: on Aug 24-25 at Fenway Park and Aug 29-30 at Yankee Stadium. :puking:

Wow, things may get even uglier before August ends.




EDIT: Actually, they'll be starting 5 of the next 11 games. I forgot to count today.


Here is how it maps out:
Balt- Gavin,Danks and MB
Boston- Jose,Freddy,Gavin,Danks
NY-MB,Jose,Freddy
Minny- Gavin,Danks,MB
Cubs-Jose
Boston- Jake?Gavin,Danks,MB
Oak- Jose,Jake?
Day off..finally after 20 straight games
Off to LAA..Gavin,Danks,MB
Day off
Seattle- Jose,Jake,Gavin
Home for 9
KC- Danks,MB,Jose
Minny-Jake,Gavin,Danks- nice
Day off
Det-MB,Jose,Jake
To Cle- Gavin,Danks,MB
to Det- Jose,Jake,Gavin...nice.


After today, 4 starts in next ten are Jose,Freddy/Hudson.
Bottom line: if Jose is good, Jake gets back after two more rehab starts and is good, and our big three maintain good form...we should have a pitching edge on the rest in the division...but that schedule is a bad moon rising.
Jose- 8 more starts
Jake- 6 starts
Freddy-2 starts
Gavin-9 starts
Danks- 8 starts
MB- 8 starts.

41 more starts to win!

tsoxman
08-20-2009, 12:22 AM
That ****ing blows.
Oh come on. Are you at all surprised by this? Kenny had to practically mud wrestle Kevin Towers, who all but shut Peavy down for the season, to get him to trade Peavy to him.

I will also predict that he will not win two games this year for us. Once he comes back, I am sure he will be on a strict pitch count, and we do not even know how effective he will be.

Perhaps I can see for 2010 and 2011 this trade working out for us but for 2009, I would have kept Richard.

...
08-20-2009, 01:06 AM
Oh come on. Are you at all surprised by this? Kenny had to practically mud wrestle Kevin Towers, who all but shut Peavy down for the season, to get him to trade Peavy to him.

I will also predict that he will not win two games this year for us. Once he comes back, I am sure he will be on a strict pitch count, and we do not even know how effective he will be.

Perhaps I can see for 2010 and 2011 this trade working out for us but for 2009, I would have kept Richard.

Everything in this statement is so far off from the truth I'm not sure where to begin...

Whitesoxfan23
08-20-2009, 02:03 AM
LOL@ keeping Richard over Peavy. Richard isn't setting the world on fire, in the pitchers park that is Petco.

longshot7
08-20-2009, 02:26 AM
Here is how it maps out:
Balt- Gavin,Danks and MB
Boston- Jose,Freddy,Gavin,Danks
NY-MB,Jose,Freddy
Minny- Gavin,Danks,MB
Cubs-Jose
Boston- Jake?Gavin,Danks,MB
Oak- Jose,Jake?
Day off..finally after 20 straight games
Off to LAA..Gavin,Danks,MB
Day off
Seattle- Jose,Jake,Gavin
Home for 9
KC- Danks,MB,Jose
Minny-Jake,Gavin,Danks- nice
Day off
Det-MB,Jose,Jake
To Cle- Gavin,Danks,MB
to Det- Jose,Jake,Gavin...nice.


After today, 4 starts in next ten are Jose,Freddy/Hudson.
Bottom line: if Jose is good, Jake gets back after two more rehab starts and is good, and our big three maintain good form...we should have a pitching edge on the rest in the division...but that schedule is a bad moon rising.
Jose- 8 more starts
Jake- 6 starts
Freddy-2 starts
Gavin-9 starts
Danks- 8 starts
MB- 8 starts.

41 more starts to win!

You have Freddy and Jose in the wrong order, btw. Look for Jake to return in Minny (if his current schedule holds) on Sept 2.

CWSpalehoseCWS
08-20-2009, 05:11 AM
Am I reading this wrong or does this sound eerily like both the Bear receiver from last year and Prior in the past, that he will not return until he is absolutely sure he is 100%?

I think most people would be more than willing to take 5 innings of shut down pitching instead of his optimal 7 innings.

It's not whether or not he could go 5 right now instead of waiting til September, it's to make sure he isn't going to hurt himself in some other way by compensating for something else. You don't need him to suffer a set back for something that apparently is fine and just needs some time to loosen up.

hawkjt
08-20-2009, 08:00 AM
You have Freddy and Jose in the wrong order, btw. Look for Jake to return in Minny (if his current schedule holds) on Sept 2.


No, I think they might flip Jose in ahead of Freddy vs Boston on Monday as that will be his full 5 day turn..giving Freddy the extra day off,and buying one more day for Jake to rehab before stepping into Freddys 5th spot.
It is all very tentative at this point,no doubt. Anything can happen to mess that schedule up,including rainouts,injury to other starters,delay in Jakes comeback,and Hudson coming on board. I think the Sox can muddle thru even if Jake is not back til Sept 7 or 12....just be good when you get here,Jake.

34 Inch Stick
08-20-2009, 08:21 AM
It's not whether or not he could go 5 right now instead of waiting til September, it's to make sure he isn't going to hurt himself in some other way by compensating for something else. You don't need him to suffer a set back for something that apparently is fine and just needs some time to loosen up.

I'm hoping that is the situation. That is not how the quotes look to me.

I think he was prepared to be shut down for the season as a Padre and now is scrambling back after a trade he never thought would occur. His statements about not having lifted weights or long tossed indicate he was not expecting to pitch until next year and not pursuing any sort of rehab program.

delben91
08-20-2009, 08:32 AM
I'm hoping that is the situation. That is not how the quotes look to me.

I think he was prepared to be shut down for the season as a Padre and now is scrambling back after a trade he never thought would occur. His statements about not having lifted weights or long tossed indicate he was not expecting to pitch until next year and not pursuing any sort of rehab program.

Well, maybe he never thought the trade would occur, but he did have to waive a no-trade clause for it to go through. So, even if he had planned on shutting it down for the rest of the season, by waiving the no-trade clause he was signing up to contribute now in 2009.

I think he's on board to try and get back as soon as he can, but not earlier than he should.

hawkjt
08-20-2009, 08:32 AM
Yes, I wonder about the not lifting weights comments...could that be lower body work,as an ankle should not prevent upper body work?

Coop is on the Score right now with Mully.
Coop sounds upbeat as usual about Jake.
Says that Jake is just coming off as frustrated due to his desire to get into the pennant race with the Sox,but the rehab starts are on track for the 23rd or 24th and then 28th or 29th...then see where they are at.

Coop says that Jose has been very close for a couple of weeks..off and running now.
Freddy was only on his 5th start...he says he really thinks Freddy is getting better with each start.
Says Linebrink just lose the zone the other nite for two batters...otherwise has been climbing.
Love me some Coop!

Hitmen77
08-20-2009, 09:34 AM
Here is how it maps out:
Balt- Gavin,Danks and MB
Boston- Jose,Freddy,Gavin,Danks
NY-MB,Jose,Freddy
Minny- Gavin,Danks,MB
Cubs-Jose
Boston- Jake?Gavin,Danks,MB
Oak- Jose,Jake?
Day off..finally after 20 straight games
Off to LAA..Gavin,Danks,MB
Day off
Seattle- Jose,Jake,Gavin
Home for 9
KC- Danks,MB,Jose
Minny-Jake,Gavin,Danks- nice
Day off
Det-MB,Jose,Jake
To Cle- Gavin,Danks,MB
to Det- Jose,Jake,Gavin...nice.


After today, 4 starts in next ten are Jose,Freddy/Hudson.
Bottom line: if Jose is good, Jake gets back after two more rehab starts and is good, and our big three maintain good form...we should have a pitching edge on the rest in the division...but that schedule is a bad moon rising.
Jose- 8 more starts
Jake- 6 starts
Freddy-2 starts
Gavin-9 starts
Danks- 8 starts
MB- 8 starts.

41 more starts to win!

The Sox do have a tough schedule ahead, but seriously it is all about the Sox beating themselves. They can win those series against the top AL teams IF they avoid errors, baserunning blunders, etc - even with Jose and Freddy pitching. But, of course, that's a big "IF" right now.

Jose's success yesterday (if he can continue it in his upcoming starts) is obviously huge. IF (there's that magic word again!) he's really back on track, then that really takes the pressure off the bullpen, Freddy, and our 3 top starters.

RockJock07
08-20-2009, 11:49 AM
Give Peavy all the time he needs to get back. Even if he comes back september 2nd which is later that what was supposed to be, he still would start at least 5-6 starts. He's also going to be a few more years so let the ankle heal completely because all of us know how nasty he can be when everything is going right.

voodoochile
08-20-2009, 12:07 PM
Give Peavy all the time he needs to get back. Even if he comes back september 2nd which is later that what was supposed to be, he still would start at least 5-6 starts. He's also going to be a few more years so let the ankle heal completely because all of us know how nasty he can be when everything is going right.

I don't get the impression it's about the ankle. He's just not feeling comfortable with his pitches. That's about getting his arm working right again. He's trying to do a quick workup when normally he would take 6-8 weeks to get ready. Now he wants to do it in 2-3.

Hitmen77
08-20-2009, 02:11 PM
Yes, I wonder about the not lifting weights comments...could that be lower body work,as an ankle should not prevent upper body work?

Coop is on the Score right now with Mully.
Coop sounds upbeat as usual about Jake.
Says that Jake is just coming off as frustrated due to his desire to get into the pennant race with the Sox,but the rehab starts are on track for the 23rd or 24th and then 28th or 29th...then see where they are at.

Coop says that Jose has been very close for a couple of weeks..off and running now.
Freddy was only on his 5th start...he says he really thinks Freddy is getting better with each start.
Says Linebrink just lose the zone the other nite for two batters...otherwise has been climbing.
Love me some Coop!

Peavy sort of answers that question in this article. He said he wasn't allowed to throw or do cardio. He also says he doesn't shut down like that in the winter.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=314479

Hitmen77
08-22-2009, 12:18 AM
Peavy's next AAA start will be Monday (pushed back one day from the originally scheduled Sunday). Back stiffness led to the decision to push the start back to Monday.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-22-white-sox-brite-chicago-aug22,0,2592888.story

tsoxman
08-22-2009, 06:17 AM
Oh no! Kenny Williams has traded away some good arms for a guy who is getting hit hard in the minors!!! We sure could use Clayton Richard and Poreda right now!
:chickenlittle
Excellent post!

Clayton Richard last might threw 6 shut out innings against the team that is leading the NL Central by six games...Meanwhile, we are dropping like a rock and have at least two more Freddie Garcia starts to look forward to.

Look, I agree that getting Jake was a good move for 2010 and 2011 but if getting a guy supposedly to help you this year who is hurt and may not even pitch until mid September is a real head scratcher. To boot, you give San Diego the same package of prospectsthat you offered previously when A- the guy was healthy and when B- you had two months more of the season to work with. It's not like we were running away frm this thing at the time of the trade.

That is just dumb.

ms620
08-22-2009, 07:52 AM
Excellent post!

Clayton Richard last might threw 6 shut out innings against the team that is leading the NL Central by six games...Meanwhile, we are dropping like a rock and have at least two more Freddie Garcia starts to look forward to.

Look, I agree that getting Jake was a good move for 2010 and 2011 but if getting a guy supposedly to help you this year who is hurt and may not even pitch until mid September is a real head scratcher. To boot, you give San Diego the same package of prospectsthat you offered previously when A- the guy was healthy and when B- you had two months more of the season to work with. It's not like we were running away frm this thing at the time of the trade.

That is just dumb.

Before the trade deadline I said that the Sox should focus on the future. That they were not good enough to contend this year, efven though they were only a couple games back. I honestly think KW had similar thoughts. Not quite that extreme, but I think he thought the Sox are not great THIS year, but could win a mediocre division. So he isnt going to blow the team up, but he is going to build for the future. So he is willing to risk not winning the division for the chance to be great next year. And I agree with him. Will it hurt us to pitch Freddy? Maybe. But you know what, if the Sox played better defense, conisstantly hit, did not lose games you are winning in the 9th, etc..they would be running away with the division...even with Freddy. But the bottom line is they are what they are this year...but with a healthy Peavy they could be great next year.

hawkjt
08-22-2009, 10:20 AM
Excellent post!

Clayton Richard last might threw 6 shut out innings against the team that is leading the NL Central by six games...Meanwhile, we are dropping like a rock and have at least two more Freddie Garcia starts to look forward to.

Look, I agree that getting Jake was a good move for 2010 and 2011 but if getting a guy supposedly to help you this year who is hurt and may not even pitch until mid September is a real head scratcher. To boot, you give San Diego the same package of prospectsthat you offered previously when A- the guy was healthy and when B- you had two months more of the season to work with. It's not like we were running away frm this thing at the time of the trade.

That is just dumb.


I am a Clayton Richard fan and hated to see him go. I think he has a solid career ahead. But as for the impact on the Sox, they are 2-1 in his 5th spot starts...he has been good in San Diego, but it is the NL. He is 3-0 in 5 starts with a 3.67 era...with three of his 5 starts in San Diego...so you can argue that he might have helped the sox but there is no guarantee he wins all three of his starts here. Meanwhile,Jake has to come thru for the Sox in Sept and the next 3 years...if he does, then the trade is good.
Peavy is a proven high quality starter in the league. Clay is still unproven.

tsoxman
08-23-2009, 11:30 AM
I am a Clayton Richard fan and hated to see him go. I think he has a solid career ahead. But as for the impact on the Sox, they are 2-1 in his 5th spot starts...he has been good in San Diego, but it is the NL. He is 3-0 in 5 starts with a 3.67 era...with three of his 5 starts in San Diego...so you can argue that he might have helped the sox but there is no guarantee he wins all three of his starts here. Meanwhile,Jake has to come thru for the Sox in Sept and the next 3 years...if he does, then the trade is good.
Peavy is a proven high quality starter in the league. Clay is still unproven.

True 2-1 in those starts but in each of those starts, how deep did the Sox have to go into their bullpen to get those wins?

With each setback he has, I get itchier and itchier, not just because t it raises the possibility of him not returning this year but it casts more doubt in my mind on his overall health going forward. Once players especially, pitchers start getting injuries, it never seems to stop. Jakes' long term health is I beleive the biggest obstacle of this trade working out for us long term.

hawkjt
08-23-2009, 11:37 AM
Their has been zero indication that Peavy has any physical issues right now beyond rustiness from the layoff. Says the ankle is fine, arm is fine, just not strong yet.
I have heard nothing that suggests that Peavy is having anything but the standard early spring training general body soreness...no big deal.
He has been pushed back one day...and they never gave a concrete return to the Sox date for a reason..cus they did not know,so there is no change in a schedule that was never really set in stone anyway.

dickallen15
08-23-2009, 11:37 AM
Excellent post!

Clayton Richard last might threw 6 shut out innings against the team that is leading the NL Central by six games...Meanwhile, we are dropping like a rock and have at least two more Freddie Garcia starts to look forward to.

Look, I agree that getting Jake was a good move for 2010 and 2011 but if getting a guy supposedly to help you this year who is hurt and may not even pitch until mid September is a real head scratcher. To boot, you give San Diego the same package of prospectsthat you offered previously when A- the guy was healthy and when B- you had two months more of the season to work with. It's not like we were running away frm this thing at the time of the trade.

That is just dumb.

The White Sox acquired an ace for Clayton Richard, and 2 guys who have ERA's over 8.00 since being traded. If that's dumb, I wonder what is smart.

kittle42
08-23-2009, 11:39 AM
The White Sox acquired an ace for Clayton Richard, and 2 guys who have ERA's over 8.00 since being traded. If that's dumb, I wonder what is smart.

Agreed. Some stuff here is just beyond ridiculous.

tsoxman
08-23-2009, 03:01 PM
The White Sox acquired an ace for Clayton Richard, and 2 guys who have ERA's over 8.00 since being traded. If that's dumb, I wonder what is smart.

Using your logic, then why just don't we sign Mark Prior? I beleive he is available.

kravdog
08-24-2009, 07:38 AM
Using your logic, then why just don't we sign Mark Prior? I beleive he is available.

what? how is that using the same logic?

peavy = 1300+ career IP, 3.29 era, 2 time all star, & 1 cy young

prior = nada

balke
08-24-2009, 07:50 AM
Using your logic, then why just don't we sign Mark Prior? I beleive he is available.

Ah yes, because leg issues are so comparable to arm issues when it comes to pitchers.

The Sox have lost 1 start out of the spot Richard would be occupying if he were here. Clayton has lost a start since he's left at least, and who's to say he wouldn't have lost more.

Shut up with your 2nd guessings of this trade. JAKE PEAVY. Actually I guess I'll just wait til he shuts you all up when he gets called up in the next 2 weeks.

The Dude
08-24-2009, 08:18 AM
Using your logic, then why just don't we sign Mark Prior? I beleive he is available.

Give it up.

Redus Redux
08-24-2009, 09:51 AM
Using your logic, then why just don't we sign Mark Prior? I beleive he is available.Unreal

...
08-24-2009, 10:26 AM
Using your logic, then why just don't we sign Mark Prior? I beleive he is available.

Did you eat paint chips as a kid?

spawn
08-24-2009, 10:29 AM
Did you eat paint chips as a kid?
Attack the post, not the poster. This is your only warning.

Hitmen77
08-24-2009, 10:53 AM
Peavy is scheduled to make his next AAA start tonight:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-24-peavy-watch-aug24,0,1060401.story

Sockinchisox
08-24-2009, 05:19 PM
1 hit and 1 K so far through 1 IP.

Redus Redux
08-24-2009, 05:31 PM
Any TV clips expected?

nug0hs
08-24-2009, 05:33 PM
Uh oh, he just allowed a stolen base. Must have our allofourpitchersallowstolenbases bug.

Teal? You decide.

sox1970
08-24-2009, 05:35 PM
Any TV clips expected?

It's not televised like the last one. Probably get some grainy video after the game.

cards press box
08-24-2009, 05:55 PM
In the middle of the 3rd at Gwinnett (the Braves' AAA team), Charlotte leads 2-0. Peavy is facing former big leaguer John Halama.

JermaineDye05
08-24-2009, 05:59 PM
I really wish the gameday was more like the mlb.com one and would show the velocity and the type of pitches that Jake was throwing.

thomas35forever
08-24-2009, 06:00 PM
MLB Network alert.

JermaineDye05
08-24-2009, 06:01 PM
MLB Network alert.

Damn! The one time I don't have directv in front of me!!

Crestani
08-24-2009, 06:01 PM
Agreed. Jake usually is around 93-94, however he gets tremendous movement on his fastball. He can cut it in on left handers and run it in on righties which makes him so effective. Jake's just building his arm strength up right now. As you can see though, he can still be effective even without his good velocity because of his good movement.

:wink: Jake can usually reach up to 95 late in a game if the situation requires it. I have seen him pitch many times over the past five years living here in San Diego and I can attest to the fact that he is the White Sox #1 guy if he is right!

Redus Redux
08-24-2009, 06:02 PM
MLB Network alert.Sweet, thanks so much

JermaineDye05
08-24-2009, 06:04 PM
Nice inning for Jake as he pitches around the lead off walk.

3.0 IP so far with 2 H 2 BB 2 K's 0 R

51 pitches, 32 strikes.

JermaineDye05
08-24-2009, 06:23 PM
4.0 IP 2 BB 2 K's 3 H 0 R

66 pitches, 42 strikes.

JermaineDye05
08-24-2009, 06:39 PM
I think Jake is done now.

His final line:

5.0 IP 0 R 4 H 3 K 2 BB

80 pitches, 52 strikes.

Waysouthsider
08-24-2009, 06:53 PM
Heard he pitched really well tonight...You'd think three rehab starts would get him back...I know he was pretty bummed last time out, though. Bet he's thinking about that move from AAA over to the AL? :rolleyes:

thomas35forever
08-24-2009, 08:18 PM
I'm not a fan of Peavy being rushed back, but after tonight's horrid outing by Jose, my attitude may be changing soon. A bad outing by Freddy tomorrow night would definitely change my opinion.

Boondock Saint
08-24-2009, 08:31 PM
Heard he pitched really well tonight...You'd think three rehab starts would get him back...I know he was pretty bummed last time out, though. Bet he's thinking about that move from AAA over to the AL? :rolleyes:

What? Are people still talking about this?

Daver
08-24-2009, 08:59 PM
I would prefer that Jake not pitch till mid September at the MLB level given the nature of the injury he is recovering from.

LoveYourSuit
08-24-2009, 09:05 PM
I would prefer that Jake not pitch till mid September at the MLB level given the nature of the injury he is recovering from.


If he's going to get hurt he can hurt the ankle getting out of the tub.

But I also see no sense in rushing him to come and help a ****ty ML ball club get into post season.

doublem23
08-24-2009, 09:06 PM
I would prefer that Jake not pitch till mid September at the MLB level given the nature of the injury he is recovering from.

We're going to need Peavy if we're going to go anywhere this season. May as well get him up here and see if he can help drag this sorry team across the finish line. If he aggravates it, then he's got the off-season to recover for 2009.

We just don't have the pitching to play it safe for 2009 any more. We needed him here tonight.

DumpJerry
08-24-2009, 09:27 PM
Over at Facebook, the team posted that he might start against Sabathia on Saturday at Yankee Stadium.

parlaycard
08-24-2009, 09:28 PM
Peavy was hit in the elbow with a line drive in the 5th inning.

He will join the White Sox in Boston tomorrow.

DumpJerry
08-24-2009, 09:29 PM
He will join the White Sox in Boston tomorrow.
After he cleans out his locker in Charlotte.

Daver
08-24-2009, 09:35 PM
If he's going to get hurt he can hurt the ankle getting out of the tub.

But I also see no sense in rushing him to come and help a ****ty ML ball club get into post season.

We're going to need Peavy if we're going to go anywhere this season. May as well get him up here and see if he can help drag this sorry team across the finish line. If he aggravates it, then he's got the off-season to recover for 2009.

We just don't have the pitching to play it safe for 2009 any more. We needed him here tonight.

You pitch with your legs more than you pitch with your arm.

thomas35forever
08-24-2009, 09:37 PM
Here's one of the comments to the Peavy story on Facebook:
You can Package up Jose, Octavio, and Freddie and ship them to the Cubs. for a Beer Vendor to be named later

doublem23
08-24-2009, 09:37 PM
You pitch with your legs more than you pitch with your arm.

Yes, I know that, but we don't have the luxury to sit around and see if Jake's feeling 100% any more. If he's at 90%, we need him here now.

Waysouthsider
08-24-2009, 09:39 PM
Trib says Peavy pitches on Saturday vs. Sabathia....guess he's feeling his oats again?

WhiteSox1989
08-24-2009, 09:42 PM
I read on Cowley's twitter (ugh, I know) that he is going to petition to pitch against the Yankees.

Even if the Sox lose this game, they're still in it. That series against Detroit is going to be HUGE (at least I'm hoping, at this point).

Peavy at 90% is better than any option we have now. The Sox are still in this thing, so I don't see why not if he says he's ready.

LoveYourSuit
08-24-2009, 09:44 PM
Over at Facebook, the team posted that he might start against Sabathia on Saturday at Yankee Stadium.

You think Fox and MLB pulling some strings on that one?

Joe Buck was promoting it during Yankees vs Red Sox a few weeks back.

"Will we see Peavy make his south side debut?"


I think was the quote.

CWSpalehoseCWS
08-24-2009, 09:48 PM
That would be really nice to see his next start up here. Contreras is for sure done in the rotation, so if Peavy is ready, let him take his spot.

tsoxman
08-24-2009, 09:57 PM
Yes, I know that, but we don't have the luxury to sit around and see if Jake's feeling 100% any more. If he's at 90%, we need him here now.

Oh yes we do...I am sorry but it is not worth risking Peavy's health in a desperate attempt to help this ****ty team/

voodoochile
08-24-2009, 10:13 PM
You think Fox and MLB pulling some strings on that one?

Joe Buck was promoting it during Yankees vs Red Sox a few weeks back.

"Will we see Peavy make his south side debut?"


I think was the quote.

Games not on FOX unless the start time got moved back. It's 1:05 start on the schedule.

Did it get changed?

Hitmen77
08-24-2009, 10:32 PM
Oh yes we do...I am sorry but it is not worth risking Peavy's health in a desperate attempt to help this ****ty team/

Exactly. This year's team sucks whether or not we have Peavy. I don't want to risk his health for a team that's going nowhere.

I'm looking toward 2010 and want to make sure we're not rushing him back so that we can enter next season with a top 4 rotation of MB-Peavy-Danks-Floyd....all heathy and ready to steamroll the competition. If only the Sox can find a 5th starter who isn't pathetically bad, then our future looks bright.

Now Peavy is starting for us this weekend? I'm thrilled to see him in a Sox uniform of course, but I don't want to risk our promising 2010 for this year's D.O.A. team that is making this kind of playoff run ---> :whiteflag:.

kevingrt
08-24-2009, 10:33 PM
Don't know how I feel about Peavy going into Yankee stadium for his first start. Better then Jose though.

Hitmen77
08-24-2009, 10:43 PM
Trib says Peavy pitches on Saturday vs. Sabathia....guess he's feeling his oats again?

....which means his spot in the rotation would come up again vs. the Flubs at the Urinal where he has to bat and run the bases - which is exactly what Ozzie said he wouldn't do. :dunno:

Boondock Saint
08-24-2009, 10:48 PM
....which means his spot in the rotation would come up again vs. the Flubs at the Urinal where he has to bat and run the bases - which is exactly what Ozzie said he wouldn't do. :dunno:

Ozzie can always push him back a day.

longshot7
08-25-2009, 01:44 AM
Games not on FOX unless the start time got moved back. It's 1:05 start on the schedule.

Did it get changed?

No, it's still listed as 1:05 ET, which means those of us out-of-market won't see it.

voodoochile
08-25-2009, 08:38 AM
No, it's still listed as 1:05 ET, which means those of us out-of-market won't see it.

Just like any other game unless you have MLB.TV which should cover it. It's also on WGN according to TVGuide.com.

areilly
08-25-2009, 09:12 AM
Trib says Peavy pitches on Saturday vs. Sabathia....guess he's feeling his oats again?

No, it doesn't. The Trib, like everyone else, says Peavy, Daniel Hudson or Carlos Torres are the logical candidates to take Contreras' start Saturday.

Link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-25-white-sox-brite-chicago-aug25,0,884357.story)

Hitmen77
08-25-2009, 10:17 AM
No, it doesn't. The Trib, like everyone else, says Peavy, Daniel Hudson or Carlos Torres are the logical candidates to take Contreras' start Saturday.

Link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-25-white-sox-brite-chicago-aug25,0,884357.story)

There will need to be a corresponding roster move if any of those 3 guys start. Saturday will be 3 days short of when the rosters expand to 40. So, who will get dumped from our roster?

voodoochile
08-25-2009, 10:20 AM
There will need to be a corresponding roster move if any of those 3 guys start. Saturday will be 3 days short of when the rosters expand to 40. So, who will get dumped from our roster?

Well they could put Jose on the DL for two weeks retroactive to today if he's willing to do it.

He might or might not be depending on whether he thinks it's better to be viewed as an injury risk or an aging pitcher who is making a ton of mistakes but seems to still have decent stuff.

Hitmen77
08-25-2009, 01:12 PM
I wonder what happens if Garcia gets roughed up tonight? Does he go to the bullpen too? I suppose that Torres or Hudson would get the start on Sunday?

Dan Hudson sounds like a fast-rising prospect with a promising future in the Sox rotation someday. I hope they don't just throw him in to the fire at Yankee Stadium on Sunday because the Sox plan for the relying on washed up pitchers like Contreras, Colon, and Garcia for 2/5ths of their rotation is becoming a train wreck.

spawn
08-25-2009, 02:30 PM
Dan Hudson sounds like a fast-rising prospect with a promising future in the Sox rotation someday. I hope they don't just throw him in to the fire at Yankee Stadium on Sunday because the Sox plan for the relying on washed up pitchers like Contreras, Colon, and Garcia for 2/5ths of their rotation is becoming a train wreck.
Becoming a train wreck? We're already there my friend. :wink:

longshot7
08-25-2009, 02:55 PM
Just like any other game unless you have MLB.TV which should cover it. It's also on WGN according to TVGuide.com.

That's great - I guess the Fox blackout window has now ended?

Noneck
08-25-2009, 03:03 PM
No, it doesn't. The Trib, like everyone else, says Peavy, Daniel Hudson or Carlos Torres are the logical candidates to take Contreras' start Saturday.

Link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-25-white-sox-brite-chicago-aug25,0,884357.story)

I doubt the Sox will use an option for Hudson to start 1 game.

DSpivack
08-25-2009, 03:31 PM
That's great - I guess the Fox blackout window has now ended?

The blackout applies to 3pm games.

NoNeckEra
08-25-2009, 05:08 PM
No, it doesn't. The Trib, like everyone else, says Peavy, Daniel Hudson or Carlos Torres are the logical candidates to take Contreras' start Saturday.

Link (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-25-white-sox-brite-chicago-aug25,0,884357.story)

If Peavy can throw 80-90 pitches in AAA, he might as well throw them at Yankee Stadium. That's all we'd get out of any other option.

And not a word that it's too much pressure on his first start.

That's why he gets the big $.

JermaineDye05
08-26-2009, 05:18 PM
Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4424708)

Looks like it'll either be Torres or Hudson. Did they give Peavy an MRI on his elbow? I really hope it's nothing serious.

sox1970
08-26-2009, 05:29 PM
Someone should tell Bruce Levine you can't be a "rookie sensation" until you're actually a rookie. Dope.

Hitmen77
08-26-2009, 05:30 PM
Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4424708)

Looks like it'll either be Torres or Hudson. Did they give Peavy an MRI on his elbow? I really hope it's nothing serious.

Still sore and couldn't throw his side session today after getting hit by a line drive in the elbow....Wonderful! The craptacular last weeks of this season continues.

BadBobbyJenks
08-26-2009, 05:32 PM
I really hope they go with Hudson then. I feel like Torres is the kind of guy that the Yankees just destroy. Nibbles around the plate way too much.

thomas35forever
08-26-2009, 05:45 PM
I'd like to see Hudson up here, but making your first career start at Yankee Stadium means a lot of pressure. Hope that means nothing to him.

dickallen15
08-26-2009, 06:13 PM
I'd like to see Hudson up here, but making your first career start at Yankee Stadium means a lot of pressure. Hope that means nothing to him.

Set him up for collossal failure. Sounds like a plan.

soltrain21
08-26-2009, 06:24 PM
Shut Peavy down for the rest of the year.

Brian26
08-26-2009, 06:54 PM
Shut Peavy down for the rest of the year.

He's uniform tonight. He'll probably pitch sometime soon if not Sat.

oeo
08-26-2009, 06:58 PM
Set him up for collossal failure. Sounds like a plan.

I don't believe in this at all. If it hurts you that much, you don't have the make-up to be a big league pitcher anyway. The Sox know the kind of make-up he has.

That said, Ozzie and Co. are good at keeping things positive with young pitchers. Gavin Floyd is a guy that had no confidence when he came here.

esbrechtel
08-26-2009, 08:04 PM
Shut Peavy down for the rest of the year.

I agree....make sure he is 100% healthy rather than risk hurting him this season.

delben91
08-26-2009, 08:33 PM
Shut Peavy down for the rest of the year.

He was hit with a batted ball. Naturally it's swollen and sore. Not like he needs Tommy John surgery or something.

Doesn't mean he should pitch Saturday, but shutting him down for the year goes to the other extreme.

JermaineDye05
08-27-2009, 07:46 PM
Link (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090827&content_id=6652958&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)

Jake won't start on Saturday against the Yankees. He'll be having 1 more rehab start. I'm happy that he's still pitching. Much better news than him having to be shut down.

Hitmen77
08-29-2009, 11:43 AM
Jake Peavy is scheduled to pitch for Charlotte tonight (6:15 CT start).

cbrownson13
08-29-2009, 12:03 PM
So barring any setbacks and the way the rotation has shaped up, Peavy would start the make-up game vs the Cubs?

SOX ADDICT '73
08-29-2009, 12:19 PM
So barring any setbacks and the way the rotation has shaped up, Peavy would start the make-up game vs the Cubs?
There's no way in Hell Jake Peavy starts against the Cubs. The game's at Wrigley, where he'd have to bat and (barring a strikeout) run the bases.

IronFisk
08-29-2009, 01:24 PM
Shut Peavy down for the rest of the year.

amen...and amen.

ndgt10
08-29-2009, 02:25 PM
Peavy is probably wishing he had stayed with the Padres.

voodoochile
08-29-2009, 02:31 PM
Peavy is probably wishing he had stayed with the Padres.
With dumbass comments like yours, I can understand why...:rolleyes:

ndgt10
08-29-2009, 02:34 PM
With dumbass comments like yours, I can understand why...:rolleyes:Actually nevermind. I just looked at the Padre's record and it's 55-75. Much worse than I had previously thought.

whitesoxfan
08-29-2009, 02:58 PM
No way Peavy pitches against the Cubs. They've already said that they don't want to risk Peavy running on the basepaths.

EMachine10
08-29-2009, 07:59 PM
Peavy tonight: 3.1 IP 4H 2ER 1BB 4K on 68 pitches.

Seems to have been lifted early...elbow soreness from the linedrive??

ndgt10
08-29-2009, 08:32 PM
Peavy tonight: 3.1 IP 4H 2ER 1BB 4K on 68 pitches.

Seems to have been lifted early...elbow soreness from the linedrive??
I think that is a sign that he's being shutdown for the season.

thomas35forever
08-29-2009, 08:33 PM
I think that is a sign that he's being shutdown for the season.
Not necessarily. We don't know the whole story yet.

...
08-29-2009, 08:54 PM
I think that is a sign that he's being shutdown for the season.

Do you actually believe the **** that comes out of your mouth?

ndgt10
08-29-2009, 08:57 PM
Do you actually believe the **** that comes out of your mouth?It's coming out of my fingers.

tsoxman
08-29-2009, 08:58 PM
I think that is a sign that he's being shutdown for the season.

68 pitches in 3.1 innings is a sign that he would be a perfect fit for either the fourth or fifth starter spot in our rotation.

SOX ADDICT '73
08-29-2009, 09:22 PM
Not good:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-30-white-sox-jake-peavy-aug30,0,655581.story?track=rss

Rest up and be ready for Spring Training 2010, Jake! :whiteflag:

JB98
08-29-2009, 09:40 PM
Not good:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-30-white-sox-jake-peavy-aug30,0,655581.story?track=rss

Rest up and be ready for Spring Training 2010, Jake! :whiteflag:

That might be the wise course of action.

kitekrazy
08-29-2009, 09:41 PM
68 pitches in 3.1 innings is a sign that he would be a perfect fit for either the fourth or fifth starter spot in our rotation.

and with an ERA well under 10

thomas35forever
08-29-2009, 10:11 PM
Well, I was all for him coming back until now. Might as well let the young guys get some starts come September.

voodoochile
08-29-2009, 10:17 PM
Well, I was all for him coming back until now. Might as well let the young guys get some starts come September.

I think you'll see that anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if Hudson started against the flubbies on Thursday. I expect Torres to see a start or two also.

If by some miracle the Sox can keep it close and Peavy can pitch the final two weeks of the season, I wouldn't be surprised to see that either, but I'm not expecting the former, so I won't expect the latter either.

Danielgosox38
08-29-2009, 10:24 PM
I agree with you guys. Let's shut him down the rest of the season. I want a fully healthy Jake Peavy for 2010. This team is currently a disaster anyway, so let's not risk anything with Peavy.

Hitmen77
08-29-2009, 11:12 PM
Geez, what rotten luck with that line drive to the elbow during a rehab start!

As long as it's just a temporary setback and not a long-term problem. This team is falling apart so fast that he alone is not going to save us for 2009. Like I said, as long as he's healthy for spring training 2010.

Martinigirl
08-29-2009, 11:22 PM
Geez, what rotten luck with that line drive to the elbow during a rehab start!

As long as it's just a temporary setback and not a long-term problem. This team is falling apart so fast that he alone is not going to save us for 2009. Like I said, as long as he's healthy for spring training 2010.

I am sad about this season, and this sounds odd when it isn't even September yet, but I am really excited about next year. Our rotation will be fantastic, and I think with a couple people off the books and some acquisitions, we will be in position to do a lot of damage.

Patrick134
08-29-2009, 11:55 PM
I am sad about this season, and this sounds odd when it isn't even September yet, but I am really excited about next year. Our rotation will be fantastic, and I think with a couple people off the books and some acquisitions, we will be in position to do a lot of damage.


Amen, I hope a healthy TCQ can perform somewhere near his '08 levels as well.

...
08-30-2009, 12:21 AM
It's coming out of my fingers.

HAHA

**** none the less. Congrats. :clap:

Konerko05
08-30-2009, 12:26 AM
I wonder if the elbow problem is related to the line drive or from being rushed back.

I've been worried they are rushing him back, and if he suffers an arm injury because of it I will lose a lot of faith in the intelligence of this organization.

hawkjt
08-30-2009, 12:49 AM
The exact quote was '' tightness near the elbow''...I think it is all about the line drive injury. As long as it is not ''in'' the elbow, then you keep rehabbing it, get it right, and when he is ready bring him back. If it is not ready, then do not bring him back. Another week should resolve the bruising issue. Bring him back for Oakland in two starts or in two weeks from today. Of course they will not pitch him if there is any potential for damage.

JB98
08-30-2009, 12:53 AM
I wonder if the elbow problem is related to the line drive or from being rushed back.

I've been worried they are rushing him back, and if he suffers an arm injury because of it I will lose a lot of faith in the intelligence of this organization.

I think it is directly related to the line drive. I haven't seen any evidence that they've rushed him.

If they were rushing him, he would have been on the mound at Yankee Stadium today. To their credit, I think they've exercised the proper amount of caution to this point in Peavy's rehab.

TheBigHurtST
08-30-2009, 04:54 AM
Seriously, just wait until 2010 to pitch the guy.

...
08-30-2009, 07:29 AM
I wonder if the elbow problem is related to the line drive or from being rushed back.

I've been worried they are rushing him back, and if he suffers an arm injury because of it I will lose a lot of faith in the intelligence of this organization.

What's with the paranoia thinking the organization is "rushing" everyone? First Beckham and now Peavy. It's plain silly.

Craig Grebeck
08-30-2009, 07:40 AM
What's with the paranoia thinking the organization is "rushing" everyone? First Beckham and now Peavy. It's plain silly.
You don't see the harm in rushing back this team's most expensive and long-term commitment from injury?

oeo
08-30-2009, 12:04 PM
You don't see the harm in rushing back this team's most expensive and long-term commitment from injury?

The Sox are generally very good with this type of thing, though.

Jpgr91
08-30-2009, 12:26 PM
Per CBS Sports, he is getting Xrays in Min. That cant be good.

...
08-30-2009, 12:57 PM
You don't see the harm in rushing back this team's most expensive and long-term commitment from injury?

Of course I do, however, they're not "rushing" him back.

oeo
08-30-2009, 12:58 PM
Per CBS Sports, he is getting Xrays in Min. That cant be good.

We don't know what it means. They want to know the extent of the tightness he has in his elbow.

Craig Grebeck
08-30-2009, 02:30 PM
Of course I do, however, they're not "rushing" him back.
I, for one, would rather err on the safe side with the team's crown jewel.

JB98
08-30-2009, 04:47 PM
Per CBS Sports, he is getting Xrays in Min. That cant be good.

I've had X-Rays taken a few different times in my life and never once have I gotten bad news. Let's not assume the worst. X-Rays get taken for precautionary reasons all the time.

DumpJerry
08-30-2009, 05:21 PM
Per CBS Sports, he is getting Xrays in Min. That cant be good.
Huh? Why is it not good that he's getting x-rays? I get x-rays every now and then when I go to the dentist and I still have all my teeth, that's a good thing.

Or are the x-ray Techs in Minnesota incompetent or dastardly Twins' fans who will mess up the pictures?

...
08-30-2009, 05:23 PM
I, for one, would rather err on the safe side with the team's crown jewel.

Maybe they are?

Hitmen77
08-30-2009, 11:06 PM
You don't see the harm in rushing back this team's most expensive and long-term commitment from injury?

The elbow injury appears to be a freak accident not directly related to his original injury. I don't see how the Sox get blamed for this one unless we're arguing that they should just avoid any rehabs during this lost-cause of a season because of fear of any unforseen freak injury.

I just hope the elbow injury is just a temporary set back that will be long gone by spring training.

By the way, Charlotte's season ends in 1 week (one more start). So I suppose at that point Peavy will indeed either be up with the Sox or done for the season.

hawkjt
08-30-2009, 11:10 PM
Last I heard, Peavy will make a start vs Boston next friday... that was today's word anyway.

Hitmen77
08-31-2009, 08:22 AM
The Sox are to examine Peavy in person in Minneapolis today. From this article, it sounds like all the Sox staff know about the elbow tightness is what Jake described to them and that they'll know more after tests today.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-31-white-sox-brite-chicago-aug31,0,2723960.story

Peavy is probably wishing he had stayed with the Padres.

Good grief, I would like to think he doesn't have that attitude!

soxfanreggie
08-31-2009, 08:38 AM
The Sox still offer a better chance at making the playoffs in the near future than the Padres. My guess is that he likes the rotation he's working with, and Kenny probably shared some of his plans with him for the position players in this offseason.

slavko
08-31-2009, 04:54 PM
If he has a bone bruise he is likely to have pain for the rest of the season. If this is the case, it does heal itself eventually.

Hitmen77
08-31-2009, 08:33 PM
Sox to announce Peavy's elbow exam results after the game tonight:

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/jake-peavy-update-postgame-white-soxs-thursday-starter-vs-cubs-tba-bobby-jenks-stretched-out.html

If he is okay, then wouldn't you think they'd just say so? This does point to bad news.

As long as he's healthy and ready to go for spring training, that's what's important to the Sox at this point.

JermaineDye05
08-31-2009, 08:35 PM
Sox to announce Peavy's elbow exam results after the game tonight:

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/08/jake-peavy-update-postgame-white-soxs-thursday-starter-vs-cubs-tba-bobby-jenks-stretched-out.html

If he is okay, then wouldn't you think they'd just say so? This does point to bad news.

As long as he's healthy and ready to go for spring training, that's what's important to the Sox at this point.

Well if he's okay and they plan on bringing him off the DL and making a corresponding roster move I think they have to wait until the game is over. Don't they?

Stoky44
08-31-2009, 08:39 PM
Well if he's okay and they plan on bringing him off the DL and making a corresponding roster move I think they have to wait until the game is over. Don't they?

Roster expands to 30 tomorrow. No need for roster moves.

Hitmen77
08-31-2009, 08:41 PM
Well if he's okay and they plan on bringing him off the DL and making a corresponding roster move I think they have to wait until the game is over. Don't they?

I guess we'll find out soon enough. I'd love to have him start this weekend, but like I said, as long as he's 100% healthy for spring training I won't complain.