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Whitesoxfan23
08-01-2009, 04:07 AM
I think the Sox should take him on as our 5th starter. What you think?

Chicken Dinner
08-01-2009, 05:17 AM
Not a chance, no thanks.

forrestg
08-01-2009, 05:30 AM
not a chance that he'll clear wavers or not chance that KW would acquire him? From what we have going with no guarantees. I'd say we need a #5 for about a month or longer. That is how long peavy will be out.

hawkjt
08-01-2009, 06:34 AM
Kenny said yesterday we only have 3 fifth starter slots before Jake will be ready...including last nite. Looking at the schedule, it is clear that a week from saturday vs the tribe at soxpark and then on a tuesday later in the month vs KC at Soxpark are the two other dates we need the 5th starter.

That would mean on Monday Aug 24 in Boston, Jake might be making his debut. He is starting to throw off the mound today,Aug 1. Give him ten days of prep, then off to minor league for a couple of starts...then bring him up to face the Red Sox on the 24th in Fenway? That might be optimistic, but 3 weeks of throwing could be enough since the injury was to the ankle not the arm.

Bottom line, if this plays out, we need a 5th guy for two starts vs KC and the Tribe ,both at soxpark...I think Torres can fill that need.

Tragg
08-01-2009, 09:25 AM
Why?
He hasn't been good since 2005.

dickallen15
08-01-2009, 09:37 AM
While I think Garland would be a decent pick up, and would rather the Sox use a 5 man rotation than basically a 4 while Peavy's out, as I think sometimes giving a guy an extra day, particularly at this time of year is a good thing, I would imagine any extra funds the Sox had lying around are now being used.

HomeFish
08-01-2009, 10:02 AM
Why would LAAA be trading off players?

Red Barchetta
08-01-2009, 10:06 AM
Why would LAAA be trading off players?

They aren't. Garland plays for the Diamondbacks and they are 19 games out of first place...

#1swisher
08-01-2009, 10:11 AM
I think the Sox should take him on as our 5th starter. What you think?

YES! Hell Yes!

#1swisher
08-01-2009, 10:12 AM
Why?
He hasn't been good since 2005.

IIRC, it wasn't just Garland.

HomeFish
08-01-2009, 10:41 AM
When did Garland move to the D'Backs?

Domeshot17
08-01-2009, 10:53 AM
Free Agency last year

and

No

Garland is dogmeat. If Torres can battle like he did in his debut, I would be fine with him pitching for the 3 or 4 starts we need him to take.

PaleHoser
08-01-2009, 10:55 AM
Signed one year free agent deal with Arizona this past off-season. I believe it was for less than $7M.

kittle42
08-01-2009, 11:03 AM
I'd rather have Torres.

And 2005.

Zisk77
08-01-2009, 11:03 AM
not a chance that he'll clear wavers or not chance that KW would acquire him? From what we have going with no guarantees. I'd say we need a #5 for about a month or longer. That is how long peavy will be out.


With a tidal wave of players that are put on waivers each day many players clear waivers. Players that are significantly better than Garland. Some for economic reasons some for others. Garland wouldn't necessarily have to clear waivers...just clear up to the whitesox.

Rohan
08-01-2009, 11:08 AM
I'd rather have Garcia or Torres... Which we have...

WhiteSox5187
08-01-2009, 11:15 AM
I'd rather have Garcia or Torres... Which we have...

:o: I'd rather have Garland than Freddy. Having said that, I'd rather have Torres over Garland.

Zisk77
08-01-2009, 11:16 AM
2007 was a perfect example of how stats lie. Garland was great that year. he had an ERA just of 2 going into late june. Then he finally had a game where he didn't have his stuff. It was a first game of a doubleheader against the twins. We should have survived the first inning without any runs but a play wasn't made (but wasn't giving an error though it should have) and sixth runs scored. Since our pen was terrible , overworked, & it was the first game of a DH Garland took one for the team and 13ER where credited to him before he left! He also pitched a clunker against the Yanks 8 er. those were his onlt 2 bad starts of the season.

take those 13 er's out of his era and see what that of bad. In both games Jon "took one for the team" where normally he would have been yanked before he would have giving up all those runs.

The Bukvitch, Day, etc bullpen cost Jon Numerous wins that year. He would have easily won 20 games that year with a solid pen. In fact he even took a 1-0 lead into the 9th in Oakland! and Booby Jenks blew a rare save foor him. http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/images/misc/progress.gif http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/images/buttons/edit.gif (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=2310717)

LoveYourSuit
08-01-2009, 09:54 PM
Contreras can still dominate an offense at any given time.

Garland, can't dominate anyone.


Leave Contreras right there.

Lip Man 1
08-02-2009, 01:09 AM
Until the end of the season, then he goes.

Lip

Shoeless_Jim
08-02-2009, 12:03 PM
Kenny said yesterday we only have 3 fifth starter slots before Jake will be ready...including last nite. Looking at the schedule, it is clear that a week from saturday vs the tribe at soxpark and then on a tuesday later in the month vs KC at Soxpark are the two other dates we need the 5th starter.

That would mean on Monday Aug 24 in Boston, Jake might be making his debut. He is starting to throw off the mound today,Aug 1. Give him ten days of prep, then off to minor league for a couple of starts...then bring him up to face the Red Sox on the 24th in Fenway? That might be optimistic, but 3 weeks of throwing could be enough since the injury was to the ankle not the arm.

Bottom line, if this plays out, we need a 5th guy for two starts vs KC and the Tribe ,both at soxpark...I think Torres can fill that need.

That sounds good to me.

Flamer
08-02-2009, 12:35 PM
With the addition of Jake Peavy, the Sox's payroll is already well over 100 million. Can we really afford to Garland and his salary + his rather high buyout?

I_Liked_Manuel
08-02-2009, 01:30 PM
I can't believe I'm the first to say this - Coop could straighten him out

A. Cavatica
08-02-2009, 02:48 PM
2007 was a perfect example of how stats lie. Garland was great that year.

Garland was never great.

guillen4life13
08-02-2009, 03:37 PM
I can't believe I'm the first to say this - Coop could straighten him out

Tsk Tsk.

Coop'll Fix 'Em.

I win.

soxfanreggie
08-03-2009, 12:09 AM
I don't think we need him in that spot. I'm willing to give Torres a couple of games to see what he can do. Who knows, maybe he earns a spot next year (his to lose in spring training). He could also be some insurance if Peavy takes a little extra time.

Ron Karkovice
08-03-2009, 05:14 AM
JG pitched a complete game last night