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kittle42
07-30-2009, 11:51 PM
Wise!

soxfanreggie
07-30-2009, 11:51 PM
Wise...wowzers! A hero again. Someone tell Farmio that Wise hit a single not a HR.

MUsoxfan
07-30-2009, 11:51 PM
chisoxfanatic is gnashing her teeth right now:D:

SoxGirl4Life
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Really Kittle? Kudos to you!

Marqhead
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Celebrate good times, come on!

I will.

ms620
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Lets all take atleast a 1 day break from ripping on Wise...

Iron Dragon2
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Apparently Wise only makes plays that will end up on SportsCenter. You know they'll be all over this "epic" Yankee loss.

kevingrt
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Wise wise wise!

And where is Bobby?

LoveYourSuit
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Biggest win of the year :bandance::bandance::bandance:

Baron
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
now I know why we kept him :D::D::D::D:Thanks again Wise

GoGoCrede
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Couldn't be happier for him. He needed this badly.

Bummed that Floyd didn't get the win, but ANY win is good right now.

JB98
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Wise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The legend grows!!!!!!!!!

Terrific game by Floyd. I'm sorry he couldn't get the win. 10 strikeouts. Wow.

ChiSox89
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
SOX WIN YES!!!!!! D Wise is da man!!!!:bandance::bandance::bandance:

ShoelessJoeS
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Thank God! :gulp:

Shoeless
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Wise >>>>> Swishhead

SoxGirl4Life
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
chisoxfanatic is gnashing her teeth right now:D:

I doubt it. She's a Sox fan. Any Sox fan knows we needed a win.

WhiteSox1989
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Thank you, DeWayne. I was getting a bit nervous!

Mr. Thursday!

doublem23
07-30-2009, 11:52 PM
Let's push all those ugly thoughts we were having down just for one more day...

JB98
07-30-2009, 11:53 PM
Wise wise wise!

And where is Bobby?

I heard that Bobby is ill.

guillensdisciple
07-30-2009, 11:53 PM
I am looking forward to the sweep of the homestand.

Go Sox! Happy to see us win a game against such a good team.

Soxman219
07-30-2009, 11:53 PM
You can say it was a......WISE decision to switch him with Carlos.

DeadMoney
07-30-2009, 11:53 PM
Mr. Thursday, D. Wise!

ViPeRx007
07-30-2009, 11:53 PM
Put Wise in the Hall of Fame already.

spongyfungy
07-30-2009, 11:53 PM
I'm so happy for Wise. He didn't overswing but tried to put the head of the bat on the ball and good things happened.

GoGoCrede
07-30-2009, 11:53 PM
Wise >>>>> Swishhead

Word. I said this in the game thread, but at least Wise doesn't sulk. The worse he does the more I want him to succeed.

SoxGirl4Life
07-30-2009, 11:53 PM
Where's our "Sweet Home Chicago" video? :whiner:

TomParrish79
07-30-2009, 11:53 PM
maybe we can get some momentum off of this game


sucks for Floyd who pitched awesome tonight

kittle42
07-30-2009, 11:53 PM
Really Kittle? Kudos to you!

Just glad I got in first. I hear the screams of ID, Tragg, chisoxfanatic, and crew from here on the North Side.

But more important than all that, thank ****ing god we got a damn win today!!!

ChiSox89
07-30-2009, 11:54 PM
Huge win after blowing the lead. Huge win.

Baron
07-30-2009, 11:54 PM
I heard that Bobby is ill.


thing is that he isnt even with the team

SoxGirl4Life
07-30-2009, 11:54 PM
Hey, nice touch with "The Catch" on the outfield wall :bandance:

LoveYourSuit
07-30-2009, 11:54 PM
Scotty was flying around 3B, even w/out the diflection he scores.

Also:
Why does everytime I see Pods with no helmet or hat he reminds of this guy :scratch:

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/paramount_pictures/the_stepford_wives/roger_bart/steppred.jpg

SoxSpeed22
07-30-2009, 11:54 PM
He's still a piece of ****!
Great way to start the homestand. Floyd did an excellent job, Beckham continues to show a lot of promise and good decisions in the late innings lead to this win. After that Swisher home run, I thought that things would go against us, but good thing they proved me wrong. Let's take the next one. They got Sergio Mitre going.

soxfan21
07-30-2009, 11:55 PM
Well I'm happy, now let's go out and get some more wins!!!

Thatguyoverthere
07-30-2009, 11:55 PM
I have never despised a former White Sox player as much as I despised Nick Swisher today. I used to hate Maggs, but I don't mind him anymore - he had some good years with us. Swisher just screwed us in so many ways. Thank god for Wise, though, huh? :redneck

JermaineDye05
07-30-2009, 11:55 PM
We won, but that's 3 straight blown saves for our bullpen. Bobby needs to come back and he needs to be back to normal. Matt isn't your closer, he's your 8th inning guy and we should leave him there.

Sox win!! :bandance::bandance::bandance:

Gavin should be 10-6 right now.

doublem23
07-30-2009, 11:55 PM
Pat Boyle mentions a "possible deal in the works?"

Stay tuned, Sox fans!

chisoxfanatic
07-30-2009, 11:55 PM
I doubt it. She's a Sox fan. Any Sox fan knows we needed a win.
Thank you! :gulp:

The ONLY thing that would leave me gnashing my teeth would be if my pre-game nightmare came true. Now that the game is over, I can tell you guys about it. I had a nap and dreamed of Bobby coming in and giving up not only the tying run, but the go-ahead run as well, and we couldn't come back.

My god, thank you guys!

WhiteSox1989
07-30-2009, 11:55 PM
Hey, nice touch with "The Catch" on the outfield wall :bandance:
I thought I was imagining things when I saw that. LOL

WhiteSoxOnly
07-30-2009, 11:55 PM
SOX WIN YES!!!!!! D Wise is da man!!!!:bandance::bandance::bandance:

Am i seeing this clearly ? holy crap,i never thought we would
be celebrating these words.Way to go Weis :wink: !

TheOldRoman
07-30-2009, 11:56 PM
Is it just me, or has Thornton gotten really fat over the past week?

hi im skot
07-30-2009, 11:56 PM
Mr. Thursday, D. Wise!

Put Wise in the Hall of Fame already.

:hawk

"EE-YESSSSSSS!"

spongyfungy
07-30-2009, 11:56 PM
Word. I said this in the game thread, but at least Wise doesn't sulk. The worse he does the more I want him to succeed.

same here for the simple fact that Wise success = a better White Sox team.

SoxGirl4Life
07-30-2009, 11:56 PM
Just glad I got in first. I hear the screams of ID, Tragg, chisoxfanatic, and crew from here on the North Side.

But more important than all that, thank ****ing god we got a damn win today!!!

I give Sox fans credit for knowing the winning is all that really matters.

LoveYourSuit
07-30-2009, 11:56 PM
Let's push all those ugly thoughts we were having down just for one more day...


Yeah.

Take a win any way we can get it.

But that offense outside of Gordon need to start answering. It's not April/May anymore.

Woofer
07-30-2009, 11:56 PM
Heart starting to beat again. We stay in the race for the Central, and stay above .500.

WhiteSox1989
07-30-2009, 11:56 PM
Pat Boyle mentions a "possible deal in the works?"

Stay tuned, Sox fans!
I know Jenks was gone, and I know he's been shaky his past few outings, but I would hate to see him go.

GoGoCrede
07-30-2009, 11:56 PM
Is it just me, or has Thornton gotten really fat over the past week?

:rolling: And his Ks are down, too.

Baron
07-30-2009, 11:56 PM
Pat Boyle mentions a "possible deal in the works?"

Stay tuned, Sox fans!


a Deal for whom do you think?We'll find out I guess Ima stay awake.I got plenty of soda to keep me awake.

JB98
07-30-2009, 11:56 PM
I'm so happy for Wise. He didn't overswing but tried to put the head of the bat on the ball and good things happened.

Yeah, I was yelling, "Just make contact," at the TV. He put it in play and gave himself a chance. Thank goodness it worked out for us.

BleacherBandit
07-30-2009, 11:57 PM
I love how they put up that marker on the padding where the catch was made.

A good resolution to a good game that went bad.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
07-30-2009, 11:57 PM
Thank you, DeWayne! BIG confidence boost right there!

I was watching on Gameday, and I was literally praying with my head down that Wise would come through. When I saw the blue dot with the "in play, runs" on it, I yelled so loud my mom thought I hurt myself.

Sleep well, Chicagoland, for the Pale Hose were victorious tonight!

Tragg
07-30-2009, 11:57 PM
Once again, great starting pitching....and starting pitching is the strength of this team.
Hopefully the young players will stay intact through tomorrow.
Gordon Beckham is one of the top 2 hitters on this team already. He really is tremendous.

WhiteSox1989
07-30-2009, 11:57 PM
Heart starting to beat again. We stay in the race for the Central, and stay above .500.
I love when we win! Everyone's so positive!:bandance:

hi im skot
07-30-2009, 11:57 PM
Pat Boyle mentions a "possible deal in the works?"

Stay tuned, Sox fans!

Pfft...he was probably on the phone with Levine or something.

SoxSpeed22
07-30-2009, 11:57 PM
kM7C_yNlCLU
I got it this time.

JohnnyInnsbrook
07-30-2009, 11:57 PM
wise >>>>> swishhead
+1

kittle42
07-30-2009, 11:57 PM
I give Sox fans credit for knowing the winning is all that really matters.

Damn right. This is why there are no real "haters," despite what CLR has to say.

We may hate each other as fans, but put on a Sox uniform, and we'll love you (except for Jaime Navarro and Jose Paniagua).

GoGoCrede
07-30-2009, 11:57 PM
Pfft...he was probably on the phone with Levine or something.

Maybe they're bringing back Best's Kosher. That would make my season.

SoxGirl4Life
07-30-2009, 11:57 PM
Thank you! :gulp:

The ONLY thing that would leave me gnashing my teeth would be if my pre-game nightmare came true. Now that the game is over, I can tell you guys about it. I had a nap and dreamed of Bobby coming in and giving up not only the tying run, but the go-ahead run as well, and we couldn't come back.

My god, thank you guys!

:tiphat: I don't care who's the hero, as long as they're wearing a White Sox uniform

hi im skot
07-30-2009, 11:58 PM
Is it just me, or has Thornton gotten really fat over the past week?

Awesome.

mccoydp
07-30-2009, 11:58 PM
I laughed my ass off when Dewayne hit that ball. What a week he's had! :bandance:

JermaineDye05
07-30-2009, 11:58 PM
Pat Boyle mentions a "possible deal in the works?"

Stay tuned, Sox fans!

It's probably just Felix Pie.

SoxGirl4Life
07-30-2009, 11:58 PM
kM7C_yNlCLU
I got it this time.

Thanks!

Marqhead
07-30-2009, 11:58 PM
I'm happy. Drunk and happy. Tomorrow will be easier than anticipated.

chisoxfanatic
07-30-2009, 11:59 PM
Just glad I got in first. I hear the screams of ID, Tragg, chisoxfanatic, and crew from here on the North Side.
Eye h8 u, kitle24!

Taliesinrk
07-30-2009, 11:59 PM
Pat Boyle mentions a "possible deal in the works?"

Stay tuned, Sox fans!

Please keep us non-CSN viewers posted...

TheOldRoman
07-30-2009, 11:59 PM
:rolling: And his Ks are down, too.Blown save tonight, walked in the winning run on Friday...
We really missed our change to trade him.

ShoelessJoeS
07-30-2009, 11:59 PM
Is it just me, or has Thornton gotten really fat over the past week?Sympathy weight.

BoysMom3
07-30-2009, 11:59 PM
Yeeeeeee-HAWWWWW!!!! This makes me so happy!!!! Scotty Pods has some serious wheels!!!!

chisoxfanatic
07-31-2009, 12:02 AM
Please keep us non-CSN viewers posted...
They just said Jenks wasn't even at the ballpark tonight.

Iron Dragon2
07-31-2009, 12:03 AM
Jenks out due to family reasons.

GoGoCrede
07-31-2009, 12:03 AM
Please keep us non-CSN viewers posted...

Per Gonzales' twitter

Jenks "has some issues," according to Guillen but will be back Friday.

WhiteSox1989
07-31-2009, 12:03 AM
it's probably just felix pie.

boo.

minutia
07-31-2009, 12:03 AM
I just checked the standings and should't the Sox be 1/5 back of the Twins instead of 2.5? Neither the Twins or Tigers played today.

JermaineDye05
07-31-2009, 12:03 AM
I think Pat has been reading too much WSI.

SoxGirl4Life
07-31-2009, 12:03 AM
Oh hey. OT but Zumaya, out for the year. More surgery. That's three years in a row, isn't it?

KnightSox
07-31-2009, 12:03 AM
Great pitching (minus Swisher deciding to actually hit a ball) and a good start to this homestand.

JB98
07-31-2009, 12:04 AM
I just checked the standings and should't the Sox be 1/5 back of the Twins instead of 2.5? Neither the Twins or Tigers played today.

The Sox are .5 behind the Twins and 2.5 behind the Tigers as the result of tonight's win.

NDSox12
07-31-2009, 12:04 AM
I just checked the standings and should't the Sox be 1/5 back of the Twins instead of 2.5? Neither the Twins or Tigers played today.

1/2 back of the Twins, but 2 1/2 behind the Tigers.

MarySwiss
07-31-2009, 12:04 AM
Just got home from work and I knew as soon as I saw the number of people viewing that something good had happened! Can't wait to read this thread! :D:

cws05champ
07-31-2009, 12:04 AM
I was so pissed when Swisher hit it out after Thornton looked so dominant, and had ZERO confidence that Wise would come through. I'm glad I was wrong...you go Dwayne!!! :bandance::bandance:

GoGoCrede
07-31-2009, 12:07 AM
Christ, Wise made WSI crash for me!

thomas35forever
07-31-2009, 12:07 AM
Thanks for saving the day, Dewayne. You still suck though.:cool::redneck

DirtySox
07-31-2009, 12:08 AM
Christ, Wise made WSI crash for me!

Our Wise works in mysterious ways.

kevingrt
07-31-2009, 12:08 AM
Christ, Wise made WSI crash for me!

First time that has happened in a while. And this was a home game.

WhiteSox1989
07-31-2009, 12:08 AM
Christ, Wise made WSI crash for me!

That's a good thing, ma'am!

minutia
07-31-2009, 12:08 AM
1/2 back of the Twins, but 2 1/2 behind the Tigers.
Thanks guys, I mis-read them. Got a little freaked out. I was just so upset about being swept by the Twins that I was like wait a minute.

OmahaSoxFan
07-31-2009, 12:09 AM
The boys must be glad to be back home!

Great outing by Gavin tonight, what a performance... and what a way to win it in the bottom of the ninth inning - Wise? Who would have thunk it?

After going 1-6 on the road against the Tiggers and Twins, its nice to see the Sox beat the best team in the AL. Go get 'em again tomorrow! :smile:

DirtySox
07-31-2009, 12:10 AM
Ozzie has no ****ing idea what Mark Buehrle day is. Classic.

voodoochile
07-31-2009, 12:11 AM
Thornton got it up. Swisher dialed it up. I'm sure the game thread melted down.

Then came a man... a mighty mighty wise man and he delivered the Sox unto the promised land...

Great job by Gavin.

Nice to get any kind of a win. Hard to get much offense going when the ump's got a plate the size and shape of a manhole cover. Tonight it worked in our favor, but it would be nice to see Mr. Dye wake up and start hitting again.

:soxwin:

:)

SoxGirl4Life
07-31-2009, 12:11 AM
Just got home from work and I knew as soon as I saw the number of people viewing that something good had happened! Can't wait to read this thread! :D:

Game thread wasn't bad either

LoveYourSuit
07-31-2009, 12:11 AM
Christ, Wise made WSI crash for me!


Me too.


Time to upgrade the server, no?

Nevermind, I haven't made a donation yet.:redneck

Domeshot17
07-31-2009, 12:12 AM
Huge Win. We need to take atleast 1 more. Hopefully Kenny gets us some reinforcements in the next 14 or so hours and we take it home.

WhiteSox1989
07-31-2009, 12:12 AM
Ozzie has no ****ing idea what Mark Buehrle day is. Classic.
What'd he say?

Cowley was telling a story on the radio yesterday about how Buehrle was feeling down on himself after the game, and didn't really realize how big it was that he set a record. But Cox walked past him muttering to himself "Mark ****ing Buehrle, Mark ****ing Buehrle is the one to break the record".

chisoxfanatic
07-31-2009, 12:12 AM
Per Gonzales' twitter

Jenks "has some issues," according to Guillen but will be back Friday.
What was he doing? Joining Colon in an eating contest? Is that how Colon went down to injury again???

WhiteSox1989
07-31-2009, 12:13 AM
Thornton got it up. Swisher dialed it up. I'm sure the game thread melted down.

Then came a man... a mighty mighty wise man and he delivered the Sox unto the promised land...

Great job by Gavin.

Nice to get any kind of a win. Hard to get much offense going when the ump's got a plate the size and shape of a manhole cover. Tonight it worked in our favor, but it would be nice to see Mr. Dye wake up and start hitting again.

:soxwin:

:)

I like where this story is going..

Marqhead
07-31-2009, 12:13 AM
Thornton got it up. Swisher dialed it up. I'm sure the game thread melted down.



Believe it or not, the game thread was relatively calm, and DWise helped us all out by making everyone's night enjoyable.

GoGoCrede
07-31-2009, 12:13 AM
What'd he say?

Cowley was telling a story on the radio yesterday about how Buehrle was feeling down on himself after the game, and didn't really realize how big it was that he set a record. But Cox walked past him muttering to himself "Mark ****ing Buehrle, Mark ****ing Buehrle is the one to break the record".

Cowley also said on Twitter that Swisher walked by Ozzie without even making eye contact. Drama!!!!11

WhiteSox1989
07-31-2009, 12:15 AM
Cowley also said on Twitter that Swisher walked by Ozzie without even making eye contact. Drama!!!!11
Not sure if I've mentioned this or not but I hate Nick Swisher.

What a whiny little baby. Grow up, dude.

LoveYourSuit
07-31-2009, 12:15 AM
Nice to get any kind of a win. Hard to get much offense going when the ump's got a plate the size and shape of a manhole cover. Tonight it worked in our favor, but it would be nice to see Mr. Dye wake up and start hitting again.




I think everyone outside of Beckham is giving up way too many ABs lately.

They need to get back to the basics of driving the ball up the middle. It clicked very nicely for Wise there in the 9th. No stride and short and quick thru the zone.


Great pitching!!!

You hold that offense to 2 runs .... Oh My :o:

chisoxfanatic
07-31-2009, 12:16 AM
Cowley also said on Twitter that Swisher walked by Ozzie without even making eye contact. Drama!!!!11
This has classic Ozzie rant written all over it. I bet that, before this series is up, Ozzie says something about him to the media.

BoysMom3
07-31-2009, 12:18 AM
Maybe they're bringing back Best's Kosher. That would make my season.

Me too!!!

Great job by Gavin. I'm so happy for Dewayne. So happy!!! Loved the marking of "The Catch" on the wall too. I continue to be impressed by Gordo. That's what I like to call him - I hate the Bacon name, Gordo is fun, easy, and it suits him.

I had a thought to myself when I saw Swisher up to bat and almost said it out loud to my husband. It was - oh, two outs, and it's just Swisher. They're done, it's not like he's going to hit some home run or something. Oh, I guess he will.

LoveYourSuit
07-31-2009, 12:18 AM
Gordon Beckham now hitting .310 :o:

He leads our team in hitting now.


I will stick to it. This kid will win a batting title in this league very soon.

Pencil him in a the 3 hole and don't touch him.

Joe Mauer, you have company.

Tragg
07-31-2009, 12:21 AM
Gordon Beckham now hitting .310 :o:

He leads our team in hitting now.


I will stick to it. This kid will win a batting title in this league very soon.

Pencil him in a the 3 hole and don't touch him.

Joe Mauer, you have company.
He's the best hitter on the team.

guillensdisciple
07-31-2009, 12:21 AM
How insane is Gordon Beckham? The guy has hit the ball at least once in 31 of his last 45 games (I won't count the games that he played in order to get his first major league hit). He has had a 7, 6, and a 5 game hitting streak already. 16 of his 49 games played have been multi- hit games, and has gone 1 for 2 in multiple games.

His on base percentage is absolutely ridiculous. He has also missed 2 months of baseball and more than 50 games to boot. Even with that, he has already vaulted himself to the top of all rookies in the American League. I can only wonder what kind of havoc he will cause with a full season of baseball. I think he and Chris Getz are the X-factors to how the White Sox play the rest of the year.

Marqhead
07-31-2009, 12:23 AM
http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2008/05/05/anchorman-sequel-jump.jpg

Goooooooooooo Sox!

voodoochile
07-31-2009, 12:23 AM
Gordon Beckham now hitting .310 :o:

He leads our team in hitting now.


I will stick to it. This kid will win a batting title in this league very soon.

Pencil him in a the 3 hole and don't touch him.

Joe Mauer, you have company.

I think that's where he ends up with TCQ batting cleanup long term.

I was equally impressed with his defense tonight. He still can't go to his right for ****, but he looked great on several plays either to his left or charging. Almost natural as it were.

No shock that his comfort at 3rd and his ability to start squaring up on pitches better are coinciding. The kids a keeper and if he ends up at 3B long term, I really don't see it as a problem.

Tragg
07-31-2009, 12:26 AM
I was equally impressed with his defense tonight. He still can't go to his right for ****, but he looked great on several plays either to his left or charging. Almost natural as it were.
So what would that mean for him as a middle infielder.

LoveYourSuit
07-31-2009, 12:31 AM
I think that's where he ends up with TCQ batting cleanup long term.

I was equally impressed with his defense tonight. He still can't go to his right for ****, but he looked great on several plays either to his left or charging. Almost natural as it were.

No shock that his comfort at 3rd and his ability to start squaring up on pitches better are coinciding. The kids a keeper and if he ends up at 3B long term, I really don't see it as a problem.


That play he made is a natural SS play.

I hope the Sox think long and hard and move this kid to SS and perhaps give Alexei a shot at CF where he is badly needed.

Then 3B is open for whoeover. I know you threw up Viciedo's awful sub 700 ops stats, but he is raking right now in AA. He is getting paid good money to be sitting in AA.

voodoochile
07-31-2009, 12:34 AM
So what would that mean for him as a middle infielder.

It would be different. 2B and SS both have more time to get to baseballs because they are further from the plate. In addition, most hits down the lines are hit harder than ones up the middle because they are dead pull shots. There's not only less room to work with but the ball arrives at a higher speed in general. Probably why it's called the Hot Corner :D:

In fairness, the one down the line hit tonight would have been one heck of a play because it was head level or higher.

I'm not that concerned with it. He's obviously adjusting to the rest of the plays he needs to make quite nicely. He made several plays tonight that might have gone for IF hits or been very tough for Nix look easy. Beckham also continues to improve his ability to charge scoop and throw. I thought he made 4-5 plays tonight that he wouldn't have made when he first got called up.

Taliesinrk
07-31-2009, 12:35 AM
Per Gonzales' twitter

Jenks "has some issues," according to Guillen but will be back Friday.

That has nothing to do with a "possible deal in the works" though...

voodoochile
07-31-2009, 12:36 AM
That play he made is a natural SS play.

I hope the Sox think long and hard and move this kid to SS and perhaps give Alexei a shot at CF where he is badly needed.

Then 3B is open for whoeover. I know you threw up Viciedo's awful sub 700 ops stats, but he is raking right now in AA. He is getting paid good money to be sitting in AA.

Absolute earliest Viciedo gets a callup is June 2010, IMO. That would imply he continues to dominate AA ball the rest of the season, possibly dominates fall and winter ball too and then starts next year at AAA.

He still needs to find a position too.

LoveYourSuit
07-31-2009, 12:37 AM
That has nothing to do with a "possible deal in the works" though...

If traded:
My thinking is that you might not want a trade leak out and the best way to do it is to keep him away from the ballpark.

If he was sick, wouldn't this have been brought up pre-game or to the media before everyone was looking for him in the 8th?

LoveYourSuit
07-31-2009, 12:39 AM
Absolute earliest Viciedo gets a callup is June 2010, IMO. That would imply he continues to dominate AA ball the rest of the season, possibly dominates fall and winter ball too and then starts next year at AAA.

He still needs to find a position too.


So what position is he playing down there :scratch:

I will be honest, I don't assume to be a resident scout here. So all I know about these guys is what those folks who actually see them play in person can tell me.

DirtySox
07-31-2009, 12:42 AM
So what position is he playing down there :scratch:

I will be honest, I don't assume to be a resident scout here. So all I know about these guys is what those folks who actually see them play in person can tell me.

He is playing a butcheriffic third. I doubt he stays there long term. At least he is starting to hit things other then singles lately. His OPS is finally above .700

Taliesinrk
07-31-2009, 12:43 AM
If traded:
My thinking is that you might not want a trade leak out and the best way to do it is to keep him away from the ballpark.

If he was sick, wouldn't this have been brought up pre-game or to the media before everyone was looking for him in the 8th?

Yeah.. I mean I have no idea. I guess I just assumed Boyle would elaborate on his comment that was posted here. And I was looking for any answers but the ones I've gotten don't really address what he said (I don't think, at least).

slavko
07-31-2009, 12:44 AM
I have never despised a former White Sox player as much as I despised Nick Swisher today. I used to hate Maggs, but I don't mind him anymore - he had some good years with us. Swisher just screwed us in so many ways. Thank god for Wise, though, huh? :redneck

He's on the list of Guys Who Have Stolen Our Money. Mine has David Wells at the top.

LoveYourSuit
07-31-2009, 12:47 AM
He's on the list of Guys Who Have Stolen Our Money. Mine has David Wells at the top.


No one will top Jamie Navarro .... ever.

BoysMom3
07-31-2009, 12:50 AM
So does anyone like my nickname for Beckham - Gordo?

Slavko - your sig always cracks me up.

doublem23
07-31-2009, 12:52 AM
So does anyone like my nickname for Beckham - Gordo?

http://melindaschwakhofer.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/omb.jpg

chisoxfanatic
07-31-2009, 12:52 AM
So does anyone like my nickname for Beckham - Gordo?

Slavko - your sig always cracks me up.
I'm sorry, BoysMom...It HAS to be Bacon! :smile:

GoGoCrede
07-31-2009, 12:53 AM
So does anyone like my nickname for Beckham - Gordo?

Slavko - your sig always cracks me up.

No one seems to like my pick of G-Beck. :tongue: Kidding.

Taliesinrk
07-31-2009, 12:56 AM
My question is where's Dankterrific's love for Wise tonight?

voodoochile
07-31-2009, 12:57 AM
So does anyone like my nickname for Beckham - Gordo?

That's what I call him. I never thought much of the Bacon nickname.

asindc
07-31-2009, 01:01 AM
he's on the list of guys who have stolen our money. mine has david wells at the top.

+1

MarySwiss
07-31-2009, 01:02 AM
I'm sorry, BoysMom...It HAS to be Bacon! :smile:
Sorry, BM3, but I agree with Heather. To me, he will always be Bacon!

I mentioned this before somewhere, but I think a nickname has to "fit" the player. To me, "Gordo" sounds like some big stud homerun hitter, and it doesn't quite fit. Kind of like "Rhino, Rino"--however they spelled it--didn't fit Sandberg. Now, Greg "Bull" Luzinski--that fit.

Just my two cents!

soltrain21
07-31-2009, 01:13 AM
Wes in (attendance), Sox win!

I'm Dewayne's good luck charm.

southside rocks
07-31-2009, 01:14 AM
That was one fun game and even with the multitude of Yankees fans in attendance, one very enjoyable evening at the Cell! LOVED the walk-off, Wise and the team needed that; totally enjoyed the vigorous booing of A-Rod every time he came up; and gee, 9th-inning homerun or not, Nick Swisher is still crappy. :tongue:

GoGoCrede
07-31-2009, 01:15 AM
Wes in (attendance), Sox win!

I'm Dewayne's good luck charm.

Stop trying to weasel season tickets out of WSI, buddy.

hawkjt
07-31-2009, 01:18 AM
One of our lefties getting a hit off a lefty reliever for the win...must be dreaming!
Way to go DeWayne!
Gavin was awesome.
Gordo is so solid. He hits the ball square on the sweet meat more than any other guy on the team...amazing.

slavko
07-31-2009, 01:20 AM
Gordo is Spanish for fat. That's what I think of. Kid's a helluva hitter, isn't he?

A few words about the strike zone tonight:Pettitte was getting from batter's box to batter's box and below the knees pitches for strikes. Floyd was getting teacupped. The Beckham hit the RBI double and from that point on Floyd was getting the same lenient zone. I don't have an explanation. I do love to see young speedy guys flying around the bases.

Could Pettitte have seen Thome rumbling toward him out the corner of his eye and that's what caused the slip? I'd flinch.

BoysMom3
07-31-2009, 01:22 AM
Hey, thanks for all the answers - s'alright if you guys don't like it. I don't like Bacon! At all! Always makes me think of the Beggin' Strips commercial instead of a ball player!!

Did not know that about the Spanish meaning, Slavko!

doublem23
07-31-2009, 01:22 AM
I believe that makes the Sox 1-0 in games started by Kotsay in CF...

COINCIDENCE!!?!?!?!

beasly213
07-31-2009, 01:23 AM
Nice outing by Floyd. Thank you Wise... now come on and keep winning White Sox!!!!

BoysMom3
07-31-2009, 01:26 AM
I believe that makes the Sox 1-0 in games started by Kotsay in CF...

COINCIDENCE!!?!?!?!

Ok, that seriously made me guffaw out loud. Not just laugh, but guffaw.

soltrain21
07-31-2009, 01:27 AM
I believe that makes the Sox 1-0 in games started by Kotsay in CF...

COINCIDENCE!!?!?!?!

They are also undefeated in games that Dewayne Wise gets a game winning hit.

I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

chisoxfanatic
07-31-2009, 01:30 AM
I believe that makes the Sox 1-0 in games started by Kotsay in CF...

COINCIDENCE!!?!?!?!
Kotsay WILL hit a home run one of these days if he keeps on hitting it hard like that.

wsgdf
07-31-2009, 01:32 AM
I believe that makes the Sox 1-0 in games started by Kotsay in CF...

COINCIDENCE!!?!?!?!


Hilarious!

:D:

BoysMom3
07-31-2009, 01:33 AM
Kotsay WILL hit a home run one of these days if he keeps on hitting it hard like that.

True, true.

GoGoCrede
07-31-2009, 01:35 AM
For those who were there, how was Swisher greeted during his first at-bat?

soltrain21
07-31-2009, 01:44 AM
For those who were there, how was Swisher greeted during his first at-bat?


Booed.

soltrain21
07-31-2009, 01:45 AM
Kotsay WILL hit a home run one of these days if he keeps on hitting it hard like that.


Well, he has only played in two games - and one of these days is pretty wide open, so I'd hope so.

BleacherBandit
07-31-2009, 01:46 AM
Booed.

That's too bad.

GoGoCrede
07-31-2009, 01:48 AM
That's too bad.

A pity. A Southside legend returns and our fans boo him. Some people have no regard for history. :smile:

BleacherBandit
07-31-2009, 01:49 AM
A pity. A Southside legend returns and our fans boo him. Some people have no regard for history. :smile:

He was a good guy. I only boo players if they've done something despicable, or have played well against us. I only boo past White Sox players if they acted like idiots on the way out, like I will when Cabrera plays against us.

GoGoCrede
07-31-2009, 01:51 AM
He was a good guy. I only boo players if they've done something despicable, or have played well against us. I only boo past White Sox players if they acted like idiots on the way out, like I will when Cabrera plays against us.

Yeah, I see what you mean. I liked him a lot, but felt his attitude towards the end wasn't great.

He did homer, so technically he did do well against us. :cool:

I will say that his charity efforts are wonderful. He's an asset to his community.

soltrain21
07-31-2009, 01:53 AM
He was a good guy. I only boo players if they've done something despicable, or have played well against us. I only boo past White Sox players if they acted like idiots on the way out, like I will when Cabrera plays against us.

How did Cabrera act like an idiot on the way out? And Swisher acted like a baby that needed his diaper changed after he got benched.

BleacherBandit
07-31-2009, 01:57 AM
How did Cabrera act like an idiot on the way out? And Swisher acted like a baby that needed his diaper changed after he got benched.
What I meant to say was that Cabrera acted like an ******* for the duration of the season. You can ask his teammates that question.

I've always respected Swisher because he's not one of these guys who's gonna tell you "Baseball is a business, and I'm an employee". He's literally like a kid living out his dream. Blame me for evaluating him on those grounds, and not on him actually playing well for us, but I still like him for other reasons.

It's Dankerific
07-31-2009, 02:20 AM
Just glad I got in first. I hear the screams of ID, Tragg, chisoxfanatic, and crew from here on the North Side.

But more important than all that, thank ****ing god we got a damn win today!!!

Yeah right, Wise was my PTC. look it up.

SoxSpeed22
07-31-2009, 02:31 AM
What I meant to say was that Cabrera acted like an ******* for the duration of the season. You can ask his teammates that question.That's been a habit for Cabrera. Which would explain why a player as good as him has bounced around so many teams. Because nobody wants him around after one season.

ViPeRx007
07-31-2009, 02:39 AM
On a serious note, at what point should I pick Wise off of waivers in my fantasy league? I guess wednesday nights?

gobears1987
07-31-2009, 02:40 AM
Booed.
and deservedly so for his attitude. There are few ex-Sox that I dislike. I cheered Crede this year when I saw the Twins play the Sox. I even got over Magglio and don't react either way when he plays, but I'll boo Swisher. I'll boo Cabrera too if I see him.

TDog
07-31-2009, 03:36 AM
So, after Nick Swisher ties the game with two outs in the ninth against his former team in probably the only major league park where he has been booed (maybe Wrigley Field, too, so "city" might be more accurate), DeWayne Wise, who himself has hear some boos at the Cell, gets a two-out game winning hit in the bottom of the inning.

And just as it was for the Sox in the Metrodome on Monday, the difference in the game ultimately was a bad Yankee inning on defense.

I haven't read through the entire postgame thread, but I am surprised at the lack of outrage over the blown save. I don't feel that outrage. Nathan nearly gave up a game-tying home run to Quentin and a game-tying hit to Kotsay this week. I don't believe the bullpen is shaky or that Thornton doesn't have the mentality to close games.

I think the bullpen would be better if Thornton was used more often in save situations, not because I have any problems with Jenks, but because I think the matchups sometimes favor Thornton. Gossage and Forster used to share save duties. There is nothing wrong with a "bullpen by committee." By definition, a bullpen is a committee.

Really, the Yankees played a lot like the Sox that people complain about around here. Almost no hitting with runners in scoring position. A solo home run to tie, but they give the run right back. And then there was that bad defensive inning. And the Yankees are supposed to be the best there is, at least this week.

ms620
07-31-2009, 07:29 AM
Really, the Yankees played a lot like the Sox that people complain about around here. Almost no hitting with runners in scoring position. A solo home run to tie, but they give the run right back. And then there was that bad defensive inning. And the Yankees are supposed to be the best there is, at least this week.

And the Yankees lost a game that their starter pitched very well. The difference between the Yankees and White Sox is that the Yankees perform like that much much less than the Sox. The Yankees score more runs and have played much much better defense over the course of the season. And that is why they have the best record in the AL.

The Dude
07-31-2009, 08:08 AM
You can say it was a......WISE decision to switch him with Carlos.

Never. I don't care that he won this game, he still has a sub 200 batting average!!! I understand why Carlos was removed for defense due to his foot but if you would rather have Wise in there over Carlos with the game on the line, you are absolutely insane.

And with regard to the blown save as a previous poster mentioned, I am outraged. Thornton just cant keep focus long enough to close games. He has done this many times where he looks great and is ahead of guys and then boom, gives up a no doubter jack. Now at the time I was furious when he was in there closing and did predict a BS but didn't know Bobby had issues with family. I just hope he is back soon and that the ******* critics get off his back for his small string of bad games since he is the BEST we have.

hawkjt
07-31-2009, 09:19 AM
Sox bats must wake up. Tonite vs Mitre would be a good time to start. Clayton could use a little lead like he had in Detroit(4-0 in the first) to continue his run of good pitching.

I am more nervous with Thornton pitching vs rightys than Bobby vs lefties...therefore, I still am not ready to say Matt can close. Against 3 lefites? yes. But that rarely lines up that way. He missed his spot on Swisher...that has to be up in the zone or down or inside...not in the heart of the plate thigh high. When your fastball is arrow straight, you better locate it well vs righties anyway.
Hope Bobby is back tonite.

doublem23
07-31-2009, 09:31 AM
On a serious note, at what point should I pick Wise off of waivers in my fantasy league? I guess wednesday nights?

Depends on how the waiver wire in your league works. In some Yahoo leagues, the waiver rule needs 2 days to clear, so you got to remember to do it on Tuesdays. Just dump him Friday morning. That's for sure.

October26
07-31-2009, 09:33 AM
Didn't have a chance to celebrate last night (working lots of OT lately), but I'm still in a good mood this morning after last night's exciting White Sox winner!:bandance:

Heard on the radio that Bobby Jenks had a kidney stone? Ouch! Hope he feels better soon.

Here's dreaming of another good outing for Clayton Richard tonight and that the Sox bats come alive.

cws05champ
07-31-2009, 09:36 AM
Gordo is Spanish for fat. That's what I think of. Kid's a helluva hitter, isn't he?

A few words about the strike zone tonight:Pettitte was getting from batter's box to batter's box and below the knees pitches for strikes. Floyd was getting teacupped. The Beckham hit the RBI double and from that point on Floyd was getting the same lenient zone. I don't have an explanation. I do love to see young speedy guys flying around the bases.

Could Pettitte have seen Thome rumbling toward him out the corner of his eye and that's what caused the slip? I'd flinch.
I thought Floyd was getting a lenient strike zone too. Some of those call 3rd K's on back door breaking balls were not strikes.

I don't know who the guy opposite Costas was on the MLB Netork, but he said after Beckham's 2nd hit: "Pettite's two mistake pitches have both been to Gordon Beckham".:whatever: Ummm Yeah, that's it....mistakes.

fuzzy_patters
07-31-2009, 09:42 AM
I thought Floyd was getting a lenient strike zone too. Some of those call 3rd K's on back door breaking balls were not strikes.

I don't know who the guy opposite Costas was on the MLB Netork, but he said after Beckham's 2nd hit: "Pettite's two mistake pitches have both been to Gordon Beckham".:whatever: Ummm Yeah, that's it....mistakes.

The first one, at least, was a mistake. He didn't get the cutter in as far as Molina wanted it. Leaving your cutter over the middle of the plate tends to get it hammered.

By the way, the guy who called the game with Costas was Jim Kaat. He pitched for the White Sox from 1973-1975 in the midst of a 280+ win career.

hawkjt
07-31-2009, 09:50 AM
I agree that the ump had a wide zone last nite for both pitchers...fine by me with Gavin backdooring that killer curve all nite...

Thornton made a mistake with his pitch to Swish also..it happens.

PhillipsBubba
07-31-2009, 09:54 AM
Wise did good but he still sucks...

voodoochile
07-31-2009, 09:55 AM
Gordo is Spanish for fat. That's what I think of. Kid's a helluva hitter, isn't he?

A few words about the strike zone tonight:Pettitte was getting from batter's box to batter's box and below the knees pitches for strikes. Floyd was getting teacupped. The Beckham hit the RBI double and from that point on Floyd was getting the same lenient zone. I don't have an explanation. I do love to see young speedy guys flying around the bases.

Could Pettitte have seen Thome rumbling toward him out the corner of his eye and that's what caused the slip? I'd flinch.

:rolling:

Floyd was getting outside the outside edge with his cuve all night. I counted 5 Yankees thought the pitch they got rung up on was a ball. Zone was huge for both pitchers all night long.

ChiSoxGal85
07-31-2009, 10:13 AM
I had a thought to myself when I saw Swisher up to bat and almost said it out loud to my husband. It was - oh, two outs, and it's just Swisher. They're done, it's not like he's going to hit some home run or something. Oh, I guess he will.

along those lines...did anyone else notice Hawk kinda snicker/chuckle when Swisher came up to bat in the ninth? I said, out loud, "hey Hawk, don't laugh, he could tie this thing with one swing of the bat". A couple of pitches later...there it is. I hate 1-run leads. :?:

Turned out to be an exciting win though!

voodoochile
07-31-2009, 10:14 AM
along those lines...did anyone else notice Hawk kinda snicker/chuckle when Swisher came up to bat in the ninth? I said, out loud, "hey Hawk, don't laugh, he could tie this thing with one swing of the bat". A couple of pitches later...there it is. I hate 1-run leads. :?:

Turned out to be an exciting win though!

I was rooting for the golden sombrero, but Nick let me down...

GoGoCrede
07-31-2009, 10:17 AM
along those lines...did anyone else notice Hawk kinda snicker/chuckle when Swisher came up to bat in the ninth? I said, out loud, "hey Hawk, don't laugh, he could tie this thing with one swing of the bat". A couple of pitches later...there it is. I hate 1-run leads. :?:

Turned out to be an exciting win though!

I admit I snorted when I saw he was up and was ready to jump to the postgame thread (I mean, A-Rod didn't do crap earlier that inning). I learned my lesson.

chisoxfanatic
07-31-2009, 10:19 AM
I haven't read through the entire postgame thread, but I am surprised at the lack of outrage over the blown save. I don't feel that outrage. Nathan nearly gave up a game-tying home run to Quentin and a game-tying hit to Kotsay this week. I don't believe the bullpen is shaky or that Thornton doesn't have the mentality to close games.

I think the bullpen would be better if Thornton was used more often in save situations, not because I have any problems with Jenks, but because I think the matchups sometimes favor Thornton. Gossage and Forster used to share save duties. There is nothing wrong with a "bullpen by committee." By definition, a bullpen is a committee.
Maybe there wasn't nearly as much of an outrage because Thornton only had ONE bad pitch, while Bobby has been allowing TONS of baserunners to reach base!

thedudeabides
07-31-2009, 10:36 AM
That play he made is a natural SS play.

I hope the Sox think long and hard and move this kid to SS and perhaps give Alexei a shot at CF where he is badly needed.

Then 3B is open for whoeover. I know you threw up Viciedo's awful sub 700 ops stats, but he is raking right now in AA. He is getting paid good money to be sitting in AA.

You need to relax a little with the Viciedo stuff. Nobody is getting fired over his signing, and it is not the end of the world if he is not ready by next year. By all accounts the Sox were aware of him needing time to develop. And he is a 19 year old plugged into AA(which makes him one of the youngest players in the league), who is progressing well as the season moves along. He has been bad at 3b, and may end up being a 1b or corner outfielder. These are the things you find out in the minors.

He was paid a large bonus on a four year contract, but he is also under team control through his arbitration years. So, it is not mandatory he's up with the big club right away.

TDog
07-31-2009, 10:52 AM
Maybe there wasn't nearly as much of an outrage because Thornton only had ONE bad pitch, while Bobby has been allowing TONS of baserunners to reach base!

... not unlike Joe Nathan, who got Mark Kotsay to line out hard with men on base to end the game Wednesday five nights after giving up a two-run ninth-inning lead to the Angels without allowing a home run or Jonathan Papelbon, who gave up a three-run ninth-inning lead to the A's this week without allowing a home run for his third blown save of the season.

I was glad to see there wasn't the outrage I referred to. I don't see allowing the home run to Nick Swisher as evidence that Thornton doesn't have the fortitude to be a closer.

Most teams (not the 1970 Orioles who never lost more than two games in a row, but most teams) have stretches where things don't go right, when shattered bats off of closers end up as cheap hits that put the tying run at third base with one out instead of easy outs.

When Swisher hit the home run, though, which didn't surprise me all that much, I was confident the Sox would come back to win. Even when DeWayne Wise came up with two on and two outs, I was confident the Sox would win, if only because it was the Yankees playing bad baseball Thursday night.

BoysMom3
07-31-2009, 10:54 AM
Hey ChiSoxGal85, :welcome: You live in Geneva - I'm so jealous!

MisterB
07-31-2009, 10:59 AM
Never. I don't care that he won this game, he still has a sub 200 batting average!!! I understand why Carlos was removed for defense due to his foot but if you would rather have Wise in there over Carlos with the game on the line, you are absolutely insane.


TCQ's line since coming off the DL: .158/.238/.263

Sadly, Wise might be the better hitter right now.

slavko
07-31-2009, 11:03 AM
along those lines...did anyone else notice Hawk kinda snicker/chuckle when Swisher came up to bat in the ninth? I said, out loud, "hey Hawk, don't laugh, he could tie this thing with one swing of the bat". A couple of pitches later...there it is. I hate 1-run leads. :?:

Turned out to be an exciting win though!

I had the same bad thought. Thornton had just thrown him a high fastball as he was doing everyone else and Swish was looking for another. I don't have a way of checking, but I thought it was out of the strike zone. Gutsy slide by AJ, going down late with his head in the way of the throw. He did turn so that he wouldn't get it in the face. He's got a baseball mind, gonna manage some day, IMO.

TomBradley72
07-31-2009, 11:55 AM
One thing about Wise....his stats say he sucks...but I find myself really rooting for this guy...bounced around the minor leagues for a decade....seems like a survivor to me and and has had some pretty big moments with the WSox (grand slam vs. Tigers last year, decent series vs. TB in the ALDS, great catch in perfect game, walk off last night).

From a purely objective perspective, not much of a player....but on the subjective/human side...I give him a lot of credit for hanging in there and battling...and becoming part of baseball and White Sox history.

spawn
07-31-2009, 12:10 PM
From a purely objective perspective, not much of a player....but on the subjective/human side...I give him a lot of credit for hanging in there and battling...and becoming part of baseball and White Sox history.
My thoughts exactly. I don't think much of him as a player either, but he seems to have the right attitude, and seems grateful he's being given an opportunity to earn a living playing the sport he obviously loves.

soxfan1965
07-31-2009, 12:36 PM
From a purely objective perspective, not much of a player....but on the subjective/human side...I give him a lot of credit for hanging in there and battling...and becoming part of baseball and White Sox history. Wise is a plugger we can relate to - I think when he was called up to Cincinatti his luggage got lost and he had to borrow Ken Griffley's glove. If he keeps up these high profile last moment clutch plays, he may end up reading all of Letterman's top ten next time.

hawkjt
07-31-2009, 12:36 PM
I pull for all sox players...Wise included. He is a humble guy,who is well liked in the clubhouse..and clearly is willing to run thru the wall to make a catch.

october23sp
07-31-2009, 12:45 PM
Back from football camp, getting swept by the Twins was awful, last nights win made up for it somewhat. We need to take this series if we want to contend.

Harry Chappas
07-31-2009, 12:53 PM
Anybody else have a feeling that Swisher was going to pounce on Thornton's fastball? As mediocre as he is, and as hard as Thornton throws, it just seemed like the wrong pitch - or maybe it was just poorly located given the count. Thornton has a pretty devastating slider he can slow for a strike. I wonder why A.J. doesn't call for it more often.

#1swisher
07-31-2009, 02:13 PM
It would be different. 2B and SS both have more time to get to baseballs because they are further from the plate. In addition, most hits down the lines are hit harder than ones up the middle because they are dead pull shots. There's not only less room to work with but the ball arrives at a higher speed in general. Probably why it's called the Hot Corner :D:

In fairness, the one down the line hit tonight would have been one heck of a play because it was head level or higher.

I'm not that concerned with it. He's obviously adjusting to the rest of the plays he needs to make quite nicely. He made several plays tonight that might have gone for IF hits or been very tough for Nix look easy. Beckham also continues to improve his ability to charge scoop and throw. I thought he made 4-5 plays tonight that he wouldn't have made when he first got called up.

I'd like to add that 2 infielders are ROOKIES, first time facing the YANKEES.

:tiphat:

Boondock Saint
07-31-2009, 02:26 PM
My thoughts exactly. I don't think much of him as a player either, but he seems to have the right attitude, and seems grateful he's being given an opportunity to earn a living playing the sport he obviously loves.

Definitely. If he didn't love baseball, I doubt he'd be able to put up with the crap we routinely put him through. I don't have to like him as a player, but I have to respect that.

It's Dankerific
07-31-2009, 03:35 PM
Definitely. If he didn't love baseball, I doubt he'd be able to put up with the crap we routinely put him through. I don't have to like him as a player, but I have to respect that.

$500,000 has nothing to do with that, I'm sure.

kittle42
07-31-2009, 03:58 PM
$500,000 has nothing to do with that, I'm sure.

Hater.

It's Dankerific
07-31-2009, 04:06 PM
Hater.

=)

for $500,000 I'll list my home address and phone number, proceed to boo =)

FielderJones
07-31-2009, 04:08 PM
Anybody else have a feeling that Swisher was going to pounce on Thornton's fastball? As mediocre as he is, and as hard as Thornton throws, it just seemed like the wrong pitch - or maybe it was just poorly located given the count. Thornton has a pretty devastating slider he can slow for a strike. I wonder why A.J. doesn't call for it more often.

I did not have that feeling. I thought he would take strike 3 for the golden sombrero, as he took strike 3 so often when he played for the Sox.

I hate Thornton's slider. When you throw 97 mph, why give them a chance to catch up after they've seen your fastball? Swisher hit a ball that had too much of the middle of the plate. It happens. Thornton's not a robot that can hit his spots every time.

Boondock Saint
07-31-2009, 04:14 PM
I did not have that feeling. I thought he would take strike 3 for the golden sombrero, as he took strike 3 so often when he played for the Sox.

I hate Thornton's slider. When you throw 97 mph, why give them a chance to catch up after they've seen your fastball? Swisher hit a ball that had too much of the middle of the plate. It happens. Thornton's not a robot that can hit his spots every time.

If it was that simple, people would have crushed Bobby's curve with regularity over the course of his career.

JC456
07-31-2009, 04:28 PM
Anybody else have a feeling that Swisher was going to pounce on Thornton's fastball? As mediocre as he is, and as hard as Thornton throws, it just seemed like the wrong pitch - or maybe it was just poorly located given the count. Thornton has a pretty devastating slider he can slow for a strike. I wonder why A.J. doesn't call for it more often.
I was actually thinking, walk him, don't let him see any pitch over the plate. I hate it when my gut is right!