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KyWhiSoxFan
07-30-2009, 11:58 AM
Syracuse 5, Charlotte 3
Poreda, 6IP, 5H, R, BB, 6K, 86 pitches
Wasserman (BS, 4) (L, 6-3), IP 3H, 3R
Syracuse, 3SB off Poreda/Flowers
Box score (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2009_07_30_chraaa_syraaa_1)

Birmingham 7, Jacksonville 1
Hudson (W, 6-0), 6IP, 2H, 2BB, 10K, 88 pitches, 1.79
Viciedo, 3-5, 2B, 3-R HR (9), 3RBI (52)
Cook, 4-5, 3 2B, RBI (64)
Gartrell, 1-4, HR (18), 2RBI (68)
Box score (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2009_07_30_biraax_jaxaax_1)

Potomac 3, Winston-Salem 2
Lowe (L, 7-5), 7IP, 5H, 3ER, 0BB, 2K
Box score (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2009_07_30_wswafa_potafa_1)

Kannapolis does not play

Great Falls vs. Helena
Box score (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2009_07_30_grfrok_helrok_1)

Bristol vs. Greeneville postponed

DirtySox
07-30-2009, 07:27 PM
Hudson dealing again. 7 K's through the first 3 innings.

I know I shouldn't get too attached to prospects, but I will be quite sad if Kenny deals him.

sox1970
07-30-2009, 07:43 PM
Hudson dealing again. 7 K's through the first 3 innings.

I know I shouldn't get too attached to prospects, but I will be quite sad if Kenny deals him.

I agree with that. If he rolls through August, I'd like to see him up in September. They have nothing to lose.

DirtySox
07-30-2009, 08:34 PM
Huddy left after the 6th with an injury. Back or oblique evidently.

JermaineDye05
07-30-2009, 08:44 PM
That's tough luck for Hudson, he was on his way to have his best outing so far this year (I think..).

DirtySox
07-30-2009, 11:02 PM
From FutureSox:

Barons Clubhouse Manager Jeff Perro says Hudson is fine.

rdivaldi
07-30-2009, 11:06 PM
Viciedo, 3-5, 2B, 3-R HR (9), 3RBI (52)


A small sample size, but post All Star Break Viciedo is really raking.

.373/.407/.608 in 51 at bats.

mzh
07-30-2009, 11:14 PM
So what's good ol' Ehren Wassermann been doing? Is he the AAA closer or is that Link?

Tragg
07-30-2009, 11:19 PM
Another great start by Hudson.
Please don't trade him for a rent a player.
The top or so players in our system appear to be the best 4 we've had in ages.

...
07-30-2009, 11:25 PM
From FutureSox:

Barons Clubhouse Manager Jeff Perro says Hudson is fine.

Was warming up in the 7th after 88 pitches and was removed after pointing to his back area.

DirtySox
07-30-2009, 11:28 PM
Was warming up in the 7th after 88 pitches and was removed after pointing to his back area.

Yep. There was obviously something wrong, but it is seemingly minor according to the comments.

voodoochile
07-30-2009, 11:28 PM
A small sample size, but post All Star Break Viciedo is really raking.

.373/.407/.608 in 51 at bats.

Great news, maybe the break allowed him to catch his breath. I bet it's a bit intense going from Cuba to AA ball. Cuba he was already one of the best. Here he has to adjust not only to the culture and language but to an intensity of competition he probably isn't used to.

Hope he keeps it going. If Beckham keeps raking and improving at third, where do you think Viciedo ends up long term, RF? LF?

mzh
07-30-2009, 11:37 PM
Hope he keeps it going. If Beckham keeps raking and improving at third, where do you think Viciedo ends up long term, RF? LF?

If Beckham stays at third, The only future I honestly see for Viciedo is at First Base. Hopefully by the time Viciedo gets up to the big leagues we will have TCQ and JorDanks locked up in left and center field, and from what I've heard, he doesn't have great defensive makings of a third baseman, much less a right fielder. Flowers could turn out to be a first baseman in the end, but the kind of numbers he could put up would be much more valuable at catcher than at first base, just as I think Beckham's potential could be more valuable at short or second than at 3rd. So for all I know Viciedo could end up as a third baseman.

EDIT: Perhaps in this case JorDanks may be moved to right, clearing center for TCM, clearing shortstop of Beckham, clearing third for Viciedo. Just a long chain reaction :redneck

A. Cavatica
07-30-2009, 11:37 PM
Great news, maybe the break allowed him to catch his breath. I bet it's a bit intense going from Cuba to AA ball. Cuba he was already one of the best. Here he has to adjust not only to the culture and language but to an intensity of competition he probably isn't used to.

Hope he keeps it going. If Beckham keeps raking and improving at third, where do you think Viciedo ends up long term, RF? LF?

First.

DirtySox
07-30-2009, 11:49 PM
Speaking of Jordan Danks, I am deathly afraid he becomes BA part deux. All the K's really scare me.

KyWhiSoxFan
07-31-2009, 08:33 AM
So what's good ol' Ehren Wassermann been doing? Is he the AAA closer or is that Link?

Link closes the most for Charlotte. Wassermann is used as setup in late innings. Russell also has closed a number of games for Charlotte. Link has 9 saves, Russell 5.

KyWhiSoxFan
07-31-2009, 08:38 AM
Great news, maybe the break allowed him to catch his breath. I bet it's a bit intense going from Cuba to AA ball. Cuba he was already one of the best. Here he has to adjust not only to the culture and language but to an intensity of competition he probably isn't used to.

Hope he keeps it going. If Beckham keeps raking and improving at third, where do you think Viciedo ends up long term, RF? LF?

Yes, Viciedo has really settled in after it took time acclimating. He got off to a bad start in Birmingham, but that is not entirely unexpected.

Where he plays is the big question. He has made 23 errors already, and I don't know if moving him to first solves that problem. You have to be able to pick the ball a lot there and you get more chances at first than third.

I wonder if LF would be best long-term, with Quentin moving to RF when Dye ends his playing days in the to outfield. But I don't know if Viciedo had any experience in LF while in Cuba.

EMachine10
07-31-2009, 08:38 AM
yes, viciedo has really settled in after it took time acclimating. He got off to a bad start in birmingham, but that is not entirely unexpected.

Where he plays is the big question. He has made 23 errors already, and i don't know if moving him to first solves that problem. You have to be able to pick the ball a lot there and you get more chances at first than third.

I wonder if lf would be best long-term, with quentin moving to rf when dye ends his playing days in the to outfield. But i don't know if viciedo had any experience in lf while in cuba.
dh

jabrch
07-31-2009, 10:09 AM
A small sample size, but post All Star Break Viciedo is really raking.

.373/.407/.608 in 51 at bats.

You mean a few months were too early for some people to call a 19 yo kid who never saw even US College level pitching a bust?

I have no idea what position Viciedo will end up in, but I'm glad to see him hit. OF? 3B? 1B? DH? Nice to have options.

doublem23
07-31-2009, 12:38 PM
You mean a few months were too early for some people to call a 19 yo kid who never saw even US College level pitching a bust?

I have no idea what position Viciedo will end up in, but I'm glad to see him hit. OF? 3B? 1B? DH? Nice to have options.

And you're basing that he's not a bust on what, 14 games since the SL All-Star Game?

DirtySox
07-31-2009, 12:43 PM
Hudson on the hot sheet, and Phegley on not so hot sheet.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2009/268625.html

ms620
07-31-2009, 12:43 PM
And you're basing that he's not a bust on what, 14 games since the SL All-Star Game?

I think his point is that it is way too early to pass judgement. He might be a bust. He might become a star. You do not know yet, but you cannot call him a bust yet.

jabrch
07-31-2009, 12:47 PM
And you're basing that he's not a bust on what, 14 games since the SL All-Star Game?

I'm basing him not being a bust based on the fact that it is too early to draw that conclusion that he is a bust. Thus, he is not a bust yet.

I'm not drawing the conclusion that he is a star in the making, that he can contribute this year, or even next year. I am saying that on July 31 (and even moreso a month or two ago) it is completely ignorant to characterize him as a bust at his age/experience level.

Unless you are being arguementative for the sake of it, I'd be highly surprised an intelligent person such as yourself would draw any different conclusion.

Then again, I get surprised here quite often.

JermaineDye05
08-03-2009, 01:34 AM
I can't believe how fast Hudson has come. Definitely one of the reasons Kenny was able to deal Poreda and Richard. Both were lefties and the Sox already have 2 in their rotation. Danks and Floyd are both pretty young and should be here for a while. Buehrle and Peavy are here for the next 3-4 years. Dan Hudson appeared to surpass Poreda, they both have great promise but Hudson's control right now is far superior to Poreda's with only 24 walks in his 117.1 IP in the minors as opposed to 135 K's :o:.

He's 6-0 with a 1.79 ERA. What's the next step for this guy? Do you send him to AAA? or straight to the majors when he's done with AA? It would be interesting to see how he pitches in Charlotte, considering that ballpark.

jabrch
08-03-2009, 09:18 AM
I can't believe how fast Hudson has come. Definitely one of the reasons Kenny was able to deal Poreda and Richard. Both were lefties and the Sox already have 2 in their rotation. Danks and Floyd are both pretty young and should be here for a while. Buehrle and Peavy are here for the next 3-4 years. Dan Hudson appeared to surpass Poreda, they both have great promise but Hudson's control right now is far superior to Poreda's with only 24 walks in his 117.1 IP in the minors as opposed to 135 K's :o:.

He's 6-0 with a 1.79 ERA. What's the next step for this guy? Do you send him to AAA? or straight to the majors when he's done with AA? It would be interesting to see how he pitches in Charlotte, considering that ballpark.


Is it possible that he could bolster the pen for this year? Long relief...build up to eventually being the fifth starter next year?