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Fenway
07-10-2009, 12:28 PM
My head hurts reading this

http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=393201&f=19

This comes from the same company that developed the yellow first down marker for football television

It should be fully installed at all 30 parks by next season

jabrch
07-10-2009, 12:30 PM
Linky Brokey

Fenway
07-10-2009, 12:35 PM
I posted the link

http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=393201&f=19

Jaysox
07-10-2009, 12:36 PM
Linky Brokey
Hmm, worked for me.

Sounds pretty nifty.

It's Dankerific
07-10-2009, 12:49 PM
Its a mobile link, asks to save a file on my desktop...

WhiteSoxFTW
07-10-2009, 01:21 PM
Its a mobile link, asks to save a file on my desktop...

I can't open it on my PC, either.

My head hurts reading this

http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=393201&f=19 (http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=393201&f=19)

This comes from the same company that developed the yellow first down marker for football television

It should be fully installed at all 30 parks by next season

Edit: Is this what you are talking about? http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sbd.preview&articleID=131644 (http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=sbd.preview&articleID=131644)

thomas35forever
07-10-2009, 01:21 PM
It'll be interesting to see how this affects the way teams make up their strategies for games.

It's Dankerific
07-10-2009, 01:24 PM
can anyone who can click through get the normal NYT link up?

pythons007
07-10-2009, 01:26 PM
Can't open my computer must not have the alien technology others have on this message board. Please tell us what this new crap is going to be.

Marqhead
07-10-2009, 01:28 PM
can anyone who can click through get the normal NYT link up?

I can.

But I can only read the 1st part of the 4 pages. When I click on the next page icon it doesn't work.

Marqhead
07-10-2009, 01:29 PM
Can't open my computer must not have the alien technology others have on this message board. Please tell us what this new crap is going to be.

It's going to measure the speed and location of the ball hit, the speed of the defender getting to the ball, the speed and accuracy of the fielder throwing the ball, and the speed of the base runners, and the paths which they take around the bases.

It's Dankerific
07-10-2009, 01:37 PM
It's going to measure the speed and location of the ball hit, the speed of the defender getting to the ball, the speed and accuracy of the fielder throwing the ball, and the speed of the base runners, and the paths which they take around the bases.

This could be exactly what I need!

illinibk
07-10-2009, 01:37 PM
Here's the full article on the non-mobile website.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/sports/baseball/10cameras.html/?_r=1&scp=1&sq=With%20New%20System,%20Digital%20Eyes%20Will%20 Chart%20Baseball%27s%20Unseen%20Skills&st=cse

It's Dankerific
07-10-2009, 01:43 PM
Here's the full article on the non-mobile website.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/sports/baseball/10cameras.html/?_r=1&scp=1&sq=With%20New%20System,%20Digital%20Eyes%20Will%20 Chart%20Baseball%27s%20Unseen%20Skills&st=cse

Thanks! This is going to be great!

illinibk
07-10-2009, 01:44 PM
It's going to measure the speed and location of the ball hit, the speed of the defender getting to the ball, the speed and accuracy of the fielder throwing the ball, and the speed of the base runners, and the paths which they take around the bases.

I guess once and for all we will know the answer tot he age old question: Does Aaron Rowand take bad routes?

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=33287

oeo
07-10-2009, 01:56 PM
Its a mobile link, asks to save a file on my desktop...

That's what you get for using Internet Explorer. At least they made web browsers free, though. :tongue:

jabrch
07-10-2009, 02:15 PM
There's nothing wrong with more and better data. The problem may arise in how people use it.

It's Dankerific
07-10-2009, 02:19 PM
That's what you get for using Internet Explorer. At least they made web browsers free, though. :tongue:

I trust Microsoft to tell me the types of links I should look at.

But, well done :D:

bigsoxfan420
07-10-2009, 02:25 PM
here is the non-mobile link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/sports/baseball/10cameras.html

mjmcend
07-10-2009, 02:55 PM
This will not be popular on this website.

Fenway
07-10-2009, 03:03 PM
Linky Brokey


Better link

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/sports/baseball/10cameras.html?emc=eta1

Soxfanspcu11
07-10-2009, 03:39 PM
This is going to be awesome!

I know that the Debbie Downers around these parts will not like it but truth be told, what DO they like? :scratch:

Anyway, we are in the 21st century and the technology age is exploding. Baseball should not be immune from the scientific advances that are made. I completely understand the argument of tradition and what have you but I don't think that this new technology negatively impacts that at all. Infact I think it adds to the game in a VERY positive way!!

Think about it, fans will have fun breaking down all that data and analyzing it. It will be great for fantasy baseball players I'm sure. And in theory, it could help to keep players for "dogging it" out on defense if they know that their every move will be analyzed and that their future contracts may be positively or negatively impacted by it. Good all around from my POV
:gulp:

WhiteSoxFTW
07-10-2009, 05:38 PM
This could be exactly what I need!


I immediately thought of you and Brian Anderson when I read it.

Lip Man 1
07-10-2009, 07:45 PM
Soxfans:

Then why play the games at all? Seriously let's put all the numbers into a computer, have them recreate the games and tell us who won. It'll be quicker and less expensive for everyone....of course it'll take all the fun out of the game and turn it into something you need an advanced degree in calculus to figure out but why quibble over details!

One thing I would like to see is to eliminate the home plate umpire. I've read where a Japanese company has invented a device that sits behind home plate and accurately measures balls and strikes (kind of on the same principal as those devices tennis uses to judge line calls)

At least the strike zone will be 100% accurate.

That innovation I'd go for. The others, no thank you...it's baseball for God's sake not rocket science (nor should it be...)

Lip

It's Dankerific
07-10-2009, 07:49 PM
Soxfans:

Then why play the games at all? Seriously let's put all the numbers into a computer, have them recreate the games and tell us who won. It'll be quicker and less expensive for everyone....of course it'll take all the fun out of the game and turn it into something you need an advanced degree in calculus to figure out but why quibble over details!

One thing I would like to see is to eliminate the home plate umpire. I've read where a Japanese company has invented a device that sits behind home plate and accurately measures balls and strikes (kind of on the same principal as those devices tennis uses to judge line calls)

At least the strike zone will be 100% accurate.

That innovation I'd go for. The others, no thank you...it's baseball for God's sake not rocket science (nor should it be...)

Lip


How does having a tool to evaluate defensive ability equate to not wanting to play the games?

Lets get the best players out there and play the games. Have quantifiable information instead of perception based arguments.

The game didn't die when we were able to know how fast a pitcher threw, how many inches the pitch broke or how far that homerun went.

DumpJerry
07-11-2009, 12:30 AM
It's going to measure the speed and location of the ball hit, the speed of the defender getting to the ball, the speed and accuracy of the fielder throwing the ball, and the speed of the base runners, and the paths which they take around the bases.

Jeez. Don't some people like to sit back, strap it down and just enjoy the bloody game?!?!?!?!

I guess once and for all we will know the answer tot he age old question: Does Aaron Rowand take bad routes?

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=33287
He does.

dickallen15
07-11-2009, 05:03 PM
Soxfans:

Then why play the games at all? Seriously let's put all the numbers into a computer, have them recreate the games and tell us who won. It'll be quicker and less expensive for everyone....of course it'll take all the fun out of the game and turn it into something you need an advanced degree in calculus to figure out but why quibble over details!

One thing I would like to see is to eliminate the home plate umpire. I've read where a Japanese company has invented a device that sits behind home plate and accurately measures balls and strikes (kind of on the same principal as those devices tennis uses to judge line calls)

At least the strike zone will be 100% accurate.

That innovation I'd go for. The others, no thank you...it's baseball for God's sake not rocket science (nor should it be...)

Lip


I think they should move the home plate umpire to the upper deck between first and home. The guy next to me seems to have a better idea of the strike zone than any umpire. Just ask him.

soxfanreggie
07-11-2009, 05:16 PM
This should be very interested to see live.

soxnut1018
07-12-2009, 01:44 AM
He does.

But he's a grinder.

WSox597
07-12-2009, 07:01 AM
Soxfans:

Then why play the games at all? Seriously let's put all the numbers into a computer, have them recreate the games and tell us who won. It'll be quicker and less expensive for everyone....of course it'll take all the fun out of the game and turn it into something you need an advanced degree in calculus to figure out but why quibble over details!

One thing I would like to see is to eliminate the home plate umpire. I've read where a Japanese company has invented a device that sits behind home plate and accurately measures balls and strikes (kind of on the same principal as those devices tennis uses to judge line calls)

At least the strike zone will be 100% accurate.

That innovation I'd go for. The others, no thank you...it's baseball for God's sake not rocket science (nor should it be...)

Lip

That would be marvelous. Sometimes we wonder if the umpire is even conscious back there.

Consistency would be best for everybody. A different strike zone for each game is nuts.

A. Cavatica
07-12-2009, 11:32 AM
But he's a grinder.

Show me the statistics that prove it.

akingamongstmen
07-13-2009, 11:00 AM
That would be marvelous. Sometimes we wonder if the umpire is even conscious back there.

Consistency would be best for everybody. A different strike zone for each game is nuts.

This makes sense for balls and strikes, but you would probably still need a home plate umpire for plays at the plate, etc. I suppose you could get by with 3 umpires and have one rotate in for those situations as they develop.

That said, I waver between being a "purest" and enjoying technology as part of the game. Sometimes I enjoy the human error aspect of the game (especially when it works in favor of the Sox). It's almost as if the flaws make the game feel more perfect. Technology like this might eventually make the game feel sterile.