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Fenway
06-03-2009, 02:09 AM
On Tuesday the City of Detroit ordered the part they were trying to save to be demolished in the next 2 weeks
http://freep.com/article/20090602/NEWS01/90602041/Detroit+commission+votes+to+level+Tiger+Stadium

FloridaTigers
06-03-2009, 11:22 AM
It was gonna happen.

Railsplitter
06-03-2009, 11:32 AM
How long have the Tigers been in Comerica anyway?

PaleHoser
06-03-2009, 11:34 AM
There are many places in Detroit that need of the wrecking ball more than Tiger Stadium. What a shame.

doublem23
06-03-2009, 11:38 AM
How long have the Tigers been in Comerica anyway?

This is their 11th season at Comerica, I think.

There are many places in Detroit that need of the wrecking ball more than Tiger Stadium. What a shame.

They let those places just fall apart on their own. Even with all the horror stories you hear about Detroit, how much it sucks, and how nobody lives there, the blight is still incredible to see. When I saw a Sox game at Comerica in 2006, I remember all the houses that were literally just falling over. It was unbelievable.

C-Dawg
06-03-2009, 11:46 AM
Sad, but not surprising. I wasn't sure what they thought they would accomplish saving just a portion of the stadium, particularly when the plans for the saved portion were nebulous at best.

The city seems to be on a tear-it-down-now streak. Earlier this spring they planned to ask for stimulus money to pay for demolition of the big old abandoned train station (at left, below), but that has been called off for the time being. Maybe they're just hot to tear down something - anything - and the Tiger Station remnant is better than nothing.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb242/css9450/001small-1.jpg

tebman
06-03-2009, 12:41 PM
Even with all the horror stories you hear about Detroit, how much it sucks, and how nobody lives there, the blight is still incredible to see. When I saw a Sox game at Comerica in 2006, I remember all the houses that were literally just falling over. It was unbelievable.
I was in Detroit last summer for a technical conference. The Tigers were out of town the days I was there so I didn't see a game but went by Comerica to see it. Detroit is just a sad, sad place. The conference was at the convention center down the street from the big GM headquarters building, which also has the hotel where we stayed. Even the most cursory look around was like being on an empty movie set.

Now GM is kaput and maybe they'll vacate their building too. The only hope for a place like Detroit is if some whole new industry finds the cheap land attractive and starts building. Until then it's simply depressing.

Whitesoxfan23
06-03-2009, 01:22 PM
Is Detroit as dangerous of a city as people say it is? What makes it the most dangerous city in the United States?

Huisj
06-03-2009, 03:16 PM
Is Detroit as dangerous of a city as people say it is? What makes it the most dangerous city in the United States?

Downtown near the stadiums, the Ren Center (GM), and Cobo, it isn't dangerous. When there are things going on (games, conferences, etc.) there are plenty of people doing stuff down there, and the rest of the time there aren't enough people down there for it to be dangerous.

But downtown is a pretty small area. It's the miles and miles of crumbling old neighborhoods that give it the reputation for being dangerous.

C-Dawg
06-21-2009, 08:03 PM
Demolition is on-going as of this date. I haven't been back to see it but there are new demolition pics online.

MarkZ35
06-21-2009, 09:14 PM
I've been to Detroit 4 times in the past 4 years and it blows my mind that they were so worried about tearing down Tiger Stadium. There is so much more that needs to be torn down before this. I understand that it's pointless to just leave it up and watch it crumble naturally but that is how half of the rest of the city is. I also know they aren't making any money off it but twice I have stopped to check it out and walk around it and both times there were multiple other people dong the same. I even spotted a few Sox fans checking it out before a few games I was there for in 06. And still up to this point there is nobody interested in buying the land, yet they tear it down. Either way you look at it it is sad because the people that wanted them to just tear it down had to see this go on for 10 years and the people that for 10 years fought to save it lose out now.

soxfanreggie
06-21-2009, 10:32 PM
Have they been selling the old seats that were left? I wonder how much money the Sox made on their sale.

MarkZ35
06-21-2009, 11:24 PM
Have they been selling the old seats that were left? I wonder how much money the Sox made on their sale.
I know they sold some of the seats but supposedly "most" are broken, aka the guys demolishing take what they want.

cbrownson13
06-22-2009, 09:18 AM
I have a ton of family that lives in Detroit. I was there this weekend. (still am as my flight leaves in a few hours) They have torn down all but a small piece of Tiger Stadium. There is still a small stretch of grandstand from about the 3rd base dugout, around home, and to about first base. It looks terrible. Apparently, that's where the new Joe Lewis Arena is going to be.

Detroit is just awful. Depressing. I went to the Tigers vs Brewers game on Friday. Comerica is really nice, but it looks so out of place downtown. Cheli's is a decent bar with some rooftop seats ala Wrigleyville. All the office buildings downtown look abandoned, there are bullet holes in buildings, it's just terrible. Although the bums are getting more clever. "Hey man, can I get eighty-three cents for a cup of chili," is hard to ignore.

As I told my cousin, walking through the streets of downtown, you can't even fathom what could possibly be done to fix it up. It's gone so far down the toilet they almost just need to demolish the whole city and start over.

Oblong
06-22-2009, 09:31 AM
. Apparently, that's where the new Joe Lewis Arena is going to be.

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That's still in the rumor stage. That site, along with an area across from Comerica Park, behind the Fox Theater, are the two leading candidates. Mike Ilitch has bought pretty much everything in Foxtown.

C-Dawg
06-22-2009, 10:30 AM
They have torn down all but a small piece of Tiger Stadium. There is still a small stretch of grandstand from about the 3rd base dugout, around home, and to about first base. It looks terrible.

That's the part they are knocking down now; the new pics went up over the weekend. The other 3/4 of the stadium came down last summer.

Jpgr91
06-22-2009, 01:58 PM
Is Detroit as dangerous of a city as people say it is? What makes it the most dangerous city in the United States?

Any major US city is dangerous in areas. I think that with so many vacated and abandoned building Detroit has the image of being more "dangerous" than it is. Just for balance, according to this article Chicago has 4 of the 25 most dangerous neighborhoods in the Country. Detroit and NYC only have 1 a piece in the top 25.

http://www.walletpop.com/insurance/most-dangerous-neighborhoods?icid=main|aim|dl3|link3|http%3A%2F%2 Fwww.walletpop.com%2Finsurance%2Fmost-dangerous-neighborhoods

TheAnswer32
06-22-2009, 04:14 PM
Any major US city is dangerous in areas. I think that with so many vacated and abandoned building Detroit has the image of being more "dangerous" than it is. Just for balance, according to this article Chicago has 4 of the 25 most dangerous neighborhoods in the Country. Detroit and NYC only have 1 a piece in the top 25.

http://www.walletpop.com/insurance/most-dangerous-neighborhoods?icid=main|aim|dl3|link3|http%3A%2F%2 Fwww.walletpop.com%2Finsurance%2Fmost-dangerous-neighborhoods (http://www.walletpop.com/insurance/most-dangerous-neighborhoods?icid=main%7Caim%7Cdl3%7Clink3%7Chttp %3A%2F%2Fwww.walletpop.com%2Finsurance%2Fmost-dangerous-neighborhoods)

No offense, but this list is awful. They basically listed Englewood 4 times.

UChicagoHP
06-22-2009, 05:03 PM
Is Detroit as dangerous of a city as people say it is? What makes it the most dangerous city in the United States?

Desperation, low/no incomes, crime, drugs, etc...

I've found the people of Detroit to be extrememly nice on the whole, but time hasn't been kind to the city.

DSpivack
06-22-2009, 05:06 PM
Any major US city is dangerous in areas. I think that with so many vacated and abandoned building Detroit has the image of being more "dangerous" than it is. Just for balance, according to this article Chicago has 4 of the 25 most dangerous neighborhoods in the Country. Detroit and NYC only have 1 a piece in the top 25.

http://www.walletpop.com/insurance/most-dangerous-neighborhoods?icid=main|aim|dl3|link3|http%3A%2F%2 Fwww.walletpop.com%2Finsurance%2Fmost-dangerous-neighborhoods (http://www.walletpop.com/insurance/most-dangerous-neighborhoods?icid=main%7Caim%7Cdl3%7Clink3%7Chttp %3A%2F%2Fwww.walletpop.com%2Finsurance%2Fmost-dangerous-neighborhoods)

No offense, but this list is awful. They basically listed Englewood 4 times.

The internet is full of stupid commentary, but that website might have the worst of any I've ever seen.

chisoxfanatic
06-22-2009, 09:39 PM
The internet is full of stupid commentary, but that website might have the worst of any I've ever seen.
I find it hard to believe that Cincinnati, Ohio, has the worst neighborhood in the entire country.

PKalltheway
06-22-2009, 10:44 PM
I find it hard to believe that Cincinnati, Ohio, has the worst neighborhood in the entire country.
Trust me, you would be suprised. No teal. I didn't think that Cincy would be rated the worst, but I knew it had to be in the top 10 easily. I guess the numbers don't lie...

Huisj
06-22-2009, 11:07 PM
The neighborhood in Detroit that they mention is where the old Packard plant (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=r1wr5s82f0rq&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=5639834&encType=1)is. It's been abandoned since the '50s, and it is enourmous. The neighborhood is practically vacant--I'd guess more than half of the lots on the residential streets have no houses anymore. It's unreal.

roylestillman
06-22-2009, 11:49 PM
The neighborhood in Detroit that they mention is where the old Packard plant (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=r1wr5s82f0rq&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=5639834&encType=1)is. It's been abandoned since the '50s, and it is enourmous. The neighborhood is practically vacant--I'd guess more than half of the lots on the residential streets have no houses anymore. It's unreal.
That's the difference with Detroit. I went to see he Sox there last year and by mistake had set the GPS to avoid highways. We went through neighborhoods that had gone beyond dangerous - because there was no one left there. No people were anywhere in sight, like some science fiction movie. I'm a city person, but this town freaks me out.

TommyJohn
06-23-2009, 12:12 AM
I had a co-worker who compared Detroit to New York-as it looked in the movie "I Am Legend."

C-Dawg
06-23-2009, 10:51 AM
The neighborhood in Detroit that they mention is where the old Packard plant (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=r1wr5s82f0rq&style=b&lvl=1&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&scene=5639834&encType=1)is. It's been abandoned since the '50s, and it is enourmous. The neighborhood is practically vacant--I'd guess more than half of the lots on the residential streets have no houses anymore. It's unreal.

I've been inside the Packard plant; its full of decades of junk people have dumped there. Such a huge parcel of real estate gone to waste.

I_Liked_Manuel
06-23-2009, 02:59 PM
Detroit's in a sad state of affairs - the city's political machine actively works to stifle development, prospectors like Ilitch and Maroun buy up old buildings/land with potential for development yet choose not to do anything with it for the most part, all of the area's money is in the suburbs, the young/educated leave the east side of the state, and we all know what's going on with the auto industry. That's a recipe for disaster.

Oblong
06-23-2009, 03:01 PM
FYI, the last remaining portion of Tiger Stadium came crumbing down yesterday. The upper deck collapsed so now it's essentially a pile of rubble.

Jpgr91
06-23-2009, 05:58 PM
The internet is full of stupid commentary, but that website might have the worst of any I've ever seen.

It's not commentary, its a compilation of statistical data. They go into detail about the methodology used to assemble the data on the first slide, it seems pretty objective to me.

Oblong
06-24-2009, 03:18 PM
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090624/SPORTS0104/906240394/1004/sports/Alan-Trammell-makes-a-short-stop-to-remember

Nice article about Trammell making one final stop today at the site. He's in town with the Cubs. On the right side of the page under "related content" there's an 3 minute audio story (With photo slideshow) where he relives some nice memories. Opening Days, Fidrych, Lou, etc. If you like baseball then you should like this.