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Soxman219
05-21-2009, 07:35 PM
First Peavy doesn't want to come, then the 20-1 embarrassment. Is this the worst day ever?

WhiteSox1989
05-21-2009, 07:36 PM
No.

DaveFeelsRight
05-21-2009, 07:38 PM
No.

twinsuck
05-21-2009, 07:38 PM
Last year, getting swept by the Twins at the twinkie dome. I for sure thought it was over. :whiner: But at least that worked out.

NLaloosh
05-21-2009, 07:42 PM
First Peavy doesn't want to come, then the 20-1 embarrassment. Is this the worst day ever?


1 out of 2 isn't bad.

LITTLE NELL
05-21-2009, 07:43 PM
Not even close.
Look at the bright side, we took 2 out of 3 from Minny.

JB98
05-21-2009, 07:43 PM
LOL. Not even close.

I cried as a seven-year-old when the Sox lost in 1983.

BigP50
05-21-2009, 07:44 PM
it would was bad, the 20-1 loss was the worst part though

TommyJohn
05-21-2009, 07:44 PM
I hope that question was sarcastic.

russ99
05-21-2009, 07:44 PM
Last year, getting swept by the Twins at the twinkie dome. I for sure thought it was over. :whiner: But at least that worked out.

I've seen much worse. To wit:

Zisk not getting an offer
Harry getting fired
Hawk made GM
Hoyt flames out
The entire 1986-1989 seasons.
Old Comiskey torn down (over many days of torture)
Ventura not re-signed
Black Jack traded to the Yankees
White Flag trade
Strike calls off contending season
Big Frank run out of town
And, personally having tickets to that god-awful doubleheader vs. the Twins in 2007. That alone was today times 10.

LITTLE NELL
05-21-2009, 07:44 PM
LOL. Not even close.

I cried as a seven-year-old when the Sox lost in 1983.
I cried as a 37 year old.

voodoochile
05-21-2009, 07:45 PM
July 31 1997.

Some day in late September early October 1919 a meeting took place in a hotel room.

The day Jaime Navarro said yes to his contract.

Those off the top of my head. I am sure there are many more. I recall some horror stories about the Sox blowing pennants in the 60's in the last week or two of the season.

This day sucked, but compared to some others, it's just another day in May...

GoGoCrede
05-21-2009, 07:46 PM
This isn't even as bad as getting swept last year at the Metrodome in September, to use a recent example (some of the others mentioned in the thread were before my time).

BadBobbyJenks
05-21-2009, 07:48 PM
I think a day back in 1919 was probably a little worse.

Big D
05-21-2009, 07:48 PM
The day Terry Bevington was hired.

DumpJerry
05-21-2009, 07:51 PM
First Peavy doesn't want to come, then the 20-1 embarrassment. Is this the worst day ever?

Not even in the Top Fifty. Not getting a fly-ball pitcher in our launching pad at the expense of two young southpaws is not a bad thing ever.

LOL. Not even close.

I cried as a seven-year-old when the Sox lost in 1983.
This 21 year old bawled so hard, my cheeks made Niagara Falls look like a trickle.

DumpJerry
05-21-2009, 07:52 PM
The day Terry Bevington was hired.
Heck, every day he was not fired.....

NLaloosh
05-21-2009, 08:13 PM
Heck, every day he was not fired.....


Man, I third this......

DoItForDanPasqua
05-21-2009, 08:28 PM
The worst I felt was when the Sox were seemingly falling apart in September 2005, and Cleveland was winning every game. Probably the low point was after the Royals beat the Sox two straight.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-050915soxgamer,0,3816406.story

I can't quite remember how that season turned out.

cards press box
05-21-2009, 08:31 PM
First Peavy doesn't want to come, then the 20-1 embarrassment. Is this the worst day ever?

No, not at all. It wasn't even the most embarrassing loss to the Twins in recent memory. Remember the Sox' day-night doubleheader on July 6, 2007 against the Twins? Scott Baker defeated Jon Garland in the opener 20-14 and, in the nightcap, Matt Garza defeated Gavin Floyd 12-0. That was just awful.

And let me add this -- Aaron Poreda's line in the Birmingham/West Tenn. game last night:

7 innings, 3 hits, 2 earned runs, 2 walks and 12 strikeouts. Poreda's ERA on the season is 2.53.

Don't get me wrong. Jake Peavy is a great pitcher, a former Cy Young award winner who would help any club. But I like the core of the Birmingham Barons, especially Poreda, Jordan Danks and Gordon Beckham. Who knows? We may all look back at this as a great day when Jake Peavy prevented the Sox from parting with their prized young lefty. Some of the very best trades are the one you don't make.

Viva Medias B's
05-21-2009, 08:32 PM
This is not the worst day ever in White Sox history. Losing by 19 runs is bad, but a victory tomorrow over Pittsburgh will erase that.

ChiSoxFan81
05-21-2009, 08:32 PM
Last year when they announced Quentin was out for the season was worse than this. My stomach was in knots all day.

hi im skot
05-21-2009, 08:33 PM
Get a grip.

kevingrt
05-21-2009, 08:36 PM
No.

OldRomanPizza
05-21-2009, 08:37 PM
It may not have been the same day for everyone, but whatever day in 2006 when you realized they wouldn't earn the chance to defend their title in the playoffs was pretty low.

chisoxfanatic
05-21-2009, 08:47 PM
LOL. Not even close.

I cried as a seven-year-old when the Sox lost in 1983.
I didn't even know what a baseball was in 1983; but, I cried like a little girl in my dorm room at ISU when the Sox were swept in 2000. My roommate returned from basketball practice and thought I had lost a loved one.

Though I doubt anyone here was around then, I'd say the Black Sox scandal has to be the lowest moment for the franchise and don't think it can be topped.

thomas35forever
05-21-2009, 08:51 PM
I think today was a terrible day. Peavy added insult to injury by turning us down after a blowout loss. It wasn't the worst day ever though.

EndemicSox
05-21-2009, 08:51 PM
It's certainly a horrible day for White Sox fans, Kenny Williams, and the players. One of the worst ever, without question...

getonbckthr
05-21-2009, 08:54 PM
The day Terry Bevington was hired.

Heck, every day he was not fired.....

Man, I third this......
I actually would like to pinpoint a certain day. Had to be the pitching change with nobody up in the bullpen.:D:

chisoxfanatic
05-21-2009, 09:01 PM
I think the Sox miss Man Soo Lee.

Paulwny
05-21-2009, 09:01 PM
LOL. Not even close.

I cried as a seven-year-old when the Sox lost in 1983.

I cried as a 37 year old.



This 21 year old bawled so hard, my cheeks made Niagara Falls look like a trickle.


Damn Tito Landrum

bridgeportcopper
05-21-2009, 09:05 PM
The day of the strike in '94 felt like a thousand daggers.

nccwsfan
05-21-2009, 09:06 PM
1983 ALCS Game 4 was the worst day in White Sox history. Moped around the neighborhood all weekend. :(: They replay that game over and over- it's just as hard to watch.

White Flag Trade

1919

Today was no fun but nowhere near the above....

johnnyg83
05-21-2009, 09:07 PM
late summer early fall of 2003 and 2006 ... slow and painful fall from 1st

JB98
05-21-2009, 09:10 PM
late summer early fall of 2003 and 2006 ... slow and painful fall from 1st

Yeah, any team that was good enough to give you hope, only to fail, was worse than this.

What we saw today was a subpar White Sox team doing what subpar teams do. It sucks, but it's not nearly as painful as a 99-win team losing in the ALCS. Or missing the playoffs after being in the race all the way until late September.

kitekrazy
05-21-2009, 09:13 PM
The day of the strike in '94 felt like a thousand daggers.

That one stands out the most.

kitekrazy
05-21-2009, 09:17 PM
1983 ALCS Game 4 was the worst day in White Sox history. Moped around the neighborhood all weekend. :(: They replay that game over and over- it's just as hard to watch.


That was when starting pitchers had more balls than today's starters. Manager's weren't afraid to have their starter go past 9.

That was a great season to watch tho.

kitekrazy
05-21-2009, 09:19 PM
Not even close.
Look at the bright side, we took 2 out of 3 from Minny.

Too bad it wasn't a 4 games series. The Sox would have taken 3/4 because the Twins would be too tired to swing the bat the following game.

WSox73
05-21-2009, 09:20 PM
I actually would like to pinpoint a certain day. Had to be the pitching change with nobody up in the bullpen.:D:


Thank you for making me laugh. :smile:

Noneck
05-21-2009, 09:30 PM
The last week of 67 was the worse for me.

DSpivack
05-21-2009, 09:30 PM
I was only 10 when the strike hit and not yet a big Sox fan. I think my pick would be the Torii Hunter hit on Jamie Burke, although moreso because I was there than anything else. It just seemed to be a marker that the Sox weren't gonna make it down the stretch [of course, losing Magglio and the Big Hurt didn't help].

Woofer
05-21-2009, 09:31 PM
Getting beat by Baltimore in 1983 was bad.

Getting beat by Toronto in 1993 was equally bad.

Being swept by Seattle in 2000 was heartbreaking.

When the strike hit in 1994, I was on my way to the Woodstock 94 concert in New York. I was sad and disappointed.

I think that the worst Sox related day for me was that first time in 1991 that I saw old Comiskey park being torn down.:whiner:

Today, really is a bad day, but in the grand scheme of things, probably not even in the top 100 days of bad days in Sox history.

whitem0nkey
05-21-2009, 09:39 PM
black sox down?

Woofer
05-21-2009, 09:46 PM
black sox down?

Don't give the newspapers any headline material for tomorrows papers.

thomas35forever
05-21-2009, 09:51 PM
I think Tears for Fears can sum it up best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZRib_aAQFQ

eastchicagosoxfan
05-21-2009, 09:56 PM
Not even in the Top Fifty. Not getting a fly-ball pitcher in our launching pad at the expense of two young southpaws is not a bad thing ever.


This 21 year old bawled so hard, my cheeks made Niagara Falls look like a trickle.
'83 was tough. It was the first post-season baseball a generation of Sox fans had seen.

As far Peavy, you win some, you lose some. There's a ballgame tomorrow.

Dick Allen
05-21-2009, 10:02 PM
20-1 is bad, but it still counts as only one loss. By the way, screw Peavy, if he doesn't want to be here, then I sure as heck don't want his ugly arse here.

tsoxman
05-21-2009, 10:05 PM
I've seen much worse. To wit:

Zisk not getting an offer
Harry getting fired
Hawk made GM
Hoyt flames out
The entire 1986-1989 seasons.
Old Comiskey torn down (over many days of torture)
Ventura not re-signed
Black Jack traded to the Yankees
White Flag trade
Strike calls off contending season
Big Frank run out of town
And, personally having tickets to that god-awful doubleheader vs. the Twins in 2007. That alone was today times 10.

Great list

soxfan21
05-21-2009, 10:16 PM
The day of the strike in '94 felt like a thousand daggers.


Agreed, many publications had us going deep into the playoffs that year, and we had a great team. I was young at that time, but still cried because I knew we could have done something special that year.

Suburbanbuddha
05-21-2009, 11:37 PM
Thank you everyone who posted in this thread. You have made me feel much better about today. Of course now I'm mad all over again about the strike, Bevington, 2000 playoffs...etc...:mad:

BlackHat91
05-21-2009, 11:39 PM
Not the worst day ever because its still early. In September, this could be a back-breaker. This early in the season this might be what the SOX need to get a fire lit underneath their ***. We'll see, we need to start building some 3,4,5 game win streaks here and start crawling back up the division ladder.

soxinem1
05-21-2009, 11:51 PM
The day of the strike in '94 felt like a thousand daggers.

The day that strike began didn't bother me that much. I lived through several of those work stoppages and lockouts. 1981. 1985. 1990.......

But when MLB announced the cancellation of the season, I was very sad..... And VERY, VERY PISSED!!

Franco, Robin, Frank, Ozzie, DJ, Lance Johnson, Jason Bere, and others were all in the midst of career years......:whiner::whiner::whiner:

MetroPD
05-22-2009, 12:14 AM
Well lets look at the brightside, at least we're hitting......

soxnut1018
05-22-2009, 01:10 AM
Any time I saw him:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0b2E1OaaLz9XX/610x.jpg

TDog
05-22-2009, 01:58 AM
Feb. 13, 1970, was a pretty bad Friday the 13th in White Sox history, and not because that was the day Black Sabbath released its first album. Paul Edmonson, who would have been a starting pitcher on the White Sox that season, was killed in a traffic accident on rain-soaked U.S. 101 near Santa Barbara, a day after his 27th birthday. His only major league win was his 1969 debut, pitching a two-hit complete-game 9-1 victory against the Angels (probably because they had never seen him before), but he had five other starts where he gave up 1 or fewer earned runs without getting the win.

It's not like anyone on the White Sox was killed Thursday. I haven't even heard of anyone being injured. A loss is a loss. Colon didn't have it, and the defense at third base didn't help him, losing the game in the second inning. The Sox didn't waste any effort trying to get back into a game they weren't going to win anyway. I don't think this is the worst loss of the season because it was over so quickly. Games that could or should have been won are far more frustrating.

The Twins lost two of three in Chicago. They could have scored 30 in the final game, and it wouldn't have changed the outcome of their 1-0 loss to end their 2008 season.

As for Peavy, seriously, if I were pitching for San Diego with a no-trade contract -- especially with the terms of his no-trade contract (doesn't it escalate to $18 million in a couple of years?) -- I wouldn't be going anywhere. There is no better place to live in the U.S. than San Diego, and there probably is no better place to pitch. As it turns out, the White Sox didn't lose Poreda or Richard. Unfortunately, Richard isn't in the bullpen, where there is only one southpaw (assuming Gobble only comes in games when the Sox are down by 10 runs).

I suppose if I were in junior high school and had to deal with the juvenile White Sox-Cubs turf wars, I might consider this the worst day in White Sox history.

BleacherBandit
05-22-2009, 02:02 AM
I'd even say that the Aramis Ramirez walkoff last year pissed me more off than today. I don't know, after thinking about Peavy, I'm not really mad.


I'd trade this terrible loss today for that freaking walkoff in Wrigley.

guillensdisciple
05-22-2009, 02:37 AM
I'd even say that the Aramis Ramirez walkoff last year pissed me more off than today. I don't know, after thinking about Peavy, I'm not really mad.


I'd trade this terrible loss today for that freaking walkoff in Wrigley.

Without a doubt. I remember getting off of work and running home knowing that the game was tied (I worked at the Jamba Juice right by my house), Got home in time to see the White Sox screw up with a runner on second in the top of the ninth, and see Aramis shoot that ball over the wall.

I had never been through such a wave of emotion before. To go from utter excitement to see my favorite team play the team that I wanted them to crush to extreme sadness to see them lose the way they did destroyed me.

To make it worse my mom (a Cubs fan) was in the basement and came up to make sure I was "fine" after what happened.

Dan H
05-22-2009, 02:54 AM
20-1 is awful but every team, no matter had good or bad, has the potential to lose a game like this. What concerns me more is that the team has also lost by the scores of 12-5, 14-0, 10-3, and 9-1. Throw in the other games the Sox have been shut out in and it seems like the team plays too many games like they are not even in it.

It is not the worst day in White Sox history by far, but it is hard to be optimistic at this point. Getting the sense that this season has already come and gone made this a very bad day.

CWSpalehoseCWS
05-22-2009, 03:00 AM
Any time I saw him:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0b2E1OaaLz9XX/610x.jpg

Which one? They both bring back bad memories. LOL.

FloridaTigers
05-22-2009, 03:28 AM
I think Tears for Fears can sum it up best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZRib_aAQFQ

Better than the Jules version BY FAR.

I'm no Sox fan, but I'd think a day in 1919 was worse.

soxfan2504
05-22-2009, 03:44 AM
Any time I saw him:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0b2E1OaaLz9XX/610x.jpg

Any picture featuring these two guys is much more cringeworthy than what happened yesterday afternoon.

RedHeadPaleHoser
05-22-2009, 08:03 AM
We lost 20-1. To the Twins. That hurts more than the Peavy deal.

DumpJerry
05-22-2009, 08:15 AM
On the first day of the '94 strike, we were scheduled to open a home series against the Twins.



That only adds insult to injury.

Jollyroger2
05-22-2009, 08:26 AM
We lost 20-1. To the Twins. That hurts more than the Peavy deal.

Agreed. And I'm in Nationals country, where baseball is truly a horrific experience to watch. The fact that the Sox have just five wins more than that disgrace of a baseball team is beyond embarrassing.

20-1? Really? To these guys have zilch in the way of pride? You almost have to try to get beat that badly...

Jim Shorts
05-22-2009, 09:58 AM
The day they shut Carlton out of the clubhouse.

The first time they shipped Harold Baines out of town.

The day the music died.

Law11
05-22-2009, 10:00 AM
First Peavy doesn't want to come, then the 20-1 embarrassment. Is this the worst day ever?

Yes. It was. We suffer the worst defeat in the HISTORY of the team then get smacked in the face by in essence Peavy saying I dont want to play for you.

I'd consider that the worst day I can think of..

PaleHoser
05-22-2009, 10:12 AM
Last day of the Illinois State Legislative session 1988 was the darkest day for me. I want to say it was June 30th, and without a new stadium deal it was an absolute certainty that the White Sox would relocate to St. Petersburg, Florida.

Thinking about that whole scenario still makes my blood boil. :angry:

PKalltheway
05-22-2009, 11:21 AM
:rolleyes:Get real. A bad day? Yes, of course. Worst day in Sox history? Not even close....they still took 2 out of 3 from the Twins anyway.

Some people need to get a grip.

Juice16
05-22-2009, 11:28 AM
I wouldn't say this is the worst day in Sox history, but it is one of the most embarrassing.

voodoochile
05-22-2009, 11:40 AM
I wouldn't say this is the worst day in Sox history, but it is one of the most embarrassing.

I'm not embarassed. I'd rather be in the hunt for top notch players than not and the game is just a bad day at the office. Today it's just one more loss. That's the beautiful thing about baseball. It's not like football where if your team gets shellacked 48-3 you have to wait a week to redeem yourself. Yesterday's score shouldn't even make the newspaper tomorrow morning...

Hitmen77
05-22-2009, 12:01 PM
This is not even close to the worst Sox day ever. The worst day ever was the day the 1919 Black Sox scandal broke. The worst for me was the White Flag Trade. Perhaps to be more accurate: 7/31/97 was far and away the most embarrassing and humiliating day I have ever experienced as a Sox fan.

Sure, teams get their clocks cleaned in games like yesterday and sure teams choke when the season is on the line.....and yes, teams have fire sales when they are out of the running. But only the White Sox gave up on the season when they were only 3 games out in July. I'm sorry, but the next day was the toughest day ever as a fan for me to show my face around to non-Sox fans.


Last day of the Illinois State Legislative session 1988 was the darkest day for me. I want to say it was June 30th, and without a new stadium deal it was an absolute certainty that the White Sox would relocate to St. Petersburg, Florida.

Thinking about that whole scenario still makes my blood boil. :angry:

This could certainly have been the worst day ever since it would have meant the death of the Chicago White Sox. But it did work out in the end. But, technically you're right since it still looked like the Sox were goners as the clock struck midnight at the end of June 30.

kevingrt
05-22-2009, 12:03 PM
:rolleyes:Get real. A bad day? Yes, of course. Worst day in Sox history? Not even close....they still took 2 out of 3 from the Twins anyway.

Some people need to get a grip.

I really cannot believe some Sox fans think yesterday was the worst day ever in Sox history. What about every day Todd Ritchie or David Wells took the bump? What about the '94 strike? There are just so many worse things out there then having a quality pitcher say no to your team because he wanted a fourth year guarenteed. And getting Peavy wouldn't have won us a WS this year anyways. Maybe in upcoming years but then that $17 million we will have spent on Peavy means we will still be at the same place in CF, 2B, etc.

southside rocks
05-22-2009, 12:06 PM
Any picture featuring these two guys is much more cringeworthy than what happened yesterday afternoon.

You are so right.

Jenks4Prez
05-22-2009, 12:11 PM
Just checking, Can we all agree that this team stinks yet?

Or are they, as the merrymen on this site claim, just "Playing badly?"
:scratch:

doublem23
05-22-2009, 12:13 PM
Just checking, Can we all agree that this team stinks yet?

Or are they, as the merrymen on this site claim, just "Playing badly?"
:scratch:

No one sent me the memo about your opionion suddenly being recognized as fact.

P.S., I agree, this team is nothing special.

TDog
05-22-2009, 12:38 PM
I'm not embarassed. I'd rather be in the hunt for top notch players than not and the game is just a bad day at the office. Today it's just one more loss. That's the beautiful thing about baseball. It's not like football where if your team gets shellacked 48-3 you have to wait a week to redeem yourself. Yesterday's score shouldn't even make the newspaper tomorrow morning...

Not only that, but had the White Sox ended a losing streak (as the Twins did) by winning 20-1, people would be whining about "all or nothing," about not scoring those runs in the first two games of the series or in the one-run losses previously on the road trip.

I'm not even sure it was the worst loss in White Sox history. The White Sox lost to the Angels 19-0 on May 10, 2002 (I was working in Wisconsin that Friday night but had access to score updates). The Sox only had three singles all night. When the Angels called off the dogs in going into the sixth inning with a 15-0 lead, pinch-hitting former White Sox flop Julio Ramirez for future White Sox grinder Darin Erstad, Ramirez hit his only major league home run.

And, of course, back in the day when the Sox played scheduled Sunday doubleheaders, there were the black Sundays of 1970 when the Sox typically lost two. My first 1970 doubleheader, in a frigid stadium that started out empty, ended with a 16-2 loss to the Brewers, who, as the Sox did, lost their opener 12-0 less than a week earlier.

Carlos May did hit a home run late in the 5-2 first-game loss. It was nearly six months to the day that I after he blew off a thumb in a mortar accident at Camp Pendleton.

That reminds me that Aug. 11, 1969, was a much worse day in White Sox history. Not because the White Sox lost 5-2 to the Red Sox (Paul Edmonson took the loss), but because while I was listening to the game while drifting off to sleep, Bob Elson said Carlos May, the only All-Star on the White Sox, had suffered a serious injury to his throwing hand. I cried myself to sleep that night.

Even if I were only 12, I wouldn't have cried myself to sleep last night.

There was a Tuesday afternoon in 1975 when the Cubs lost 22-0 to the Pirates, managing only three singles and committing three errors. Frankly, I was pulling for the Sox not to set a new record for futility in a single-game shutout, which seemed within reach, but the run meant yesterday's Sox game won't even go into the record books.

October26
05-22-2009, 12:59 PM
Not only that, but had the White Sox ended a losing streak (as the Twins did) by winning 20-1, people would be whining about "all or nothing," about not scoring those runs in the first two games of the series or in the one-run losses previously on the road trip.

I'm not even sure it was the worst loss in White Sox history. The White Sox lost to the Angels 19-0 on May 10, 2002 (I was working in Wisconsin that Friday night but had access to score updates). The Sox only had three singles all night. When the Angels called off the dogs in going into the sixth inning with a 15-0 lead, pinch-hitting former White Sox flop Julio Ramirez for future White Sox grinder Darin Erstad, Ramirez hit his only major league home run.

And, of course, back in the day when the Sox played scheduled Sunday doubleheaders, there were the black Sundays of 1970 when the Sox typically lost two. My first 1970 doubleheader, in a frigid stadium that started out empty, ended with a 16-2 loss to the Brewers, who, as the Sox did, lost their opener 12-0 less than a week earlier.

Carlos May did hit a home run late in the 5-2 first-game loss. It was nearly six months to the day that I after he blew off a thumb in a mortar accident at Camp Pendleton.

That reminds me that Aug. 11, 1969, was a much worse day in White Sox history. Not because the White Sox lost 5-2 to the Red Sox (Paul Edmonson took the loss), but because while I was listening to the game while drifting off to sleep, Bob Elson said Carlos May, the only All-Star on the White Sox, had suffered a serious injury to his throwing hand. I cried myself to sleep that night.

Even if I were only 12, I wouldn't have cried myself to sleep last night.

There was a Tuesday afternoon in 1975 when the Cubs lost 22-0 to the Pirates, managing only three singles and committing three errors. Frankly, I was pulling for the Sox not to set a new record for futility in a single-game shutout, which seemed within reach, but the run meant yesterday's Sox game won't even go into the record books.

Thanks, TDog. I love your posts like this one because they take me back to the 1970's, the decade that I fell in love with White Sox baseball.

And thanks for mentioning the 1970 White sox, a team that lost 106 games. I remember that with only 56 wins for the Sox that year, almost every day of the 1970 season felt like the worst day in White sox history.

And, to answer the original question, in my opinion, yesterday was not the worst day in White Sox history - not by a longshot.

Noneck
05-22-2009, 01:04 PM
That reminds me that Aug. 11, 1969, was a much worse day in White Sox history. Not because the White Sox lost 5-2 to the Red Sox (Paul Edmonson took the loss),
That did remind me of a lot worse day than yesterday. 2/13/1970 When I found out Paul Edmonson ( a young Sox jewel) died in a car crash. Yesterday was nothing.

Zisk77
05-22-2009, 01:29 PM
No. Considering that I feel its doubtful Peavy will play out his current contract without arm surgery. I cringe every time i see highlights of him. His mechanics make me wonder how his elbow is still attached...nice recoil.

Rohan
05-22-2009, 02:25 PM
I think a day back in 1919 was probably a little worse.

Exactly.

TDog
05-22-2009, 03:23 PM
I think a day back in 1919 was probably a little worse.

Technically, the saddest day in the mess was Sept. 28, 1920, when the grand jury handed down indictments of eight players on the White Sox, including two 20-game winners, three starting infielders and two starting outfielders (one of whom was hitting .382 and leading the league with 20 triples). The players, as things turned out, played their last games ever on Sept. 27, 1920 (regardless of the verdicts of juries) with the White Sox just a half game behind the Indians and headed for St. Louis to play three games against the Browns. As it turned out, the White Sox lost two of three in St. Louis and finished two games from the World Series. They wouldn't get to the World Series for another 40 years.

UChicagoHP
05-22-2009, 03:33 PM
Yesterday was a terrible day for the team, and for the future of the franchise. An ace like Peavy is borderline impossible to come by, and Kenny Williams almost had one. Of course, his arm could fall off, and the Sox hitters may start hitting like they are 27 years old again, but I'm not holding my breath. Yesterday pretty much sums up the 2009 season, and yes I know it's early, but this team isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Sorry for the vent, but it needed to come out...

Foulke You
05-22-2009, 03:49 PM
The worst for me was the White Flag Trade. Perhaps to be more accurate: 7/31/97 was far and away the most embarrassing and humiliating day I have ever experienced as a Sox fan.

Sure, teams get their clocks cleans in games like yesterday and sure teams choke when the season is on the line.....and yes, teams have fire sales when they are out of the running. But the only the White Sox gave up on the season when they were only 3 games out in July. I'm sorry, but the next day was the toughest day ever as a fan for me to show my face around to non-Sox fans.
Absolutely, Hitmen77. The "White Flag Trade" was THE lowest point for me ever as a Sox fan. Robin Ventura had rehabbed himself from a horrific Spring Training injury and just rejoined the team in late June. I remember checking the newspapers every day in 1997 hoping the Sox would add that one extra pitcher they needed to overtake a suddenly winnable AL Central only to find out before deadline day that the team traded Roberto Hernandez, Wilson Alvarez, and Danny Darwin to the Giants for minor leaguers I had never heard of like Mike Caruso, Keith Foulke, Bob Howry, Lorenzo Barcelo, and Ken Vining. They eventually ended up trading away Harold Baines yet again that season. To add insult to injury, the Indians ended up losing something like 9 of the next 11 games after the deal was made. I remember feeling like the team would never win a World Series under the Reinsdorf/Schueler regime. It took a gunslinging GM like KW to change the culture and actually be aggressive and try to win every year. I'm not saying KW is perfect but at least he wants to win every year which is something I'm not sure I can say about Ron Schueler who liked to collect his prospects.

LoveYourSuit
05-22-2009, 04:13 PM
I think a day back in 1919 was probably a little worse.


OK, I will re-phrase my statement.

Yesterday's events was one of the biggest let down in our franchise history during our Lifetimes.

The chance to get a CY Young award winner still in his prime on team that desparately needs more starting pitching.

ramblinsoxfan11
05-22-2009, 04:17 PM
At least the weather was nice

GoSox2K3
05-22-2009, 04:22 PM
OK, I will re-phrase my statement.

Yesterday's events was one of the biggest let down in our franchise history during our Lifetimes.

The chance to get a CY Young award winner still in his prime on team that desparately needs more starting pitching.

The answer is still no.....and it's still not even close.

SoxGirl4Life
05-22-2009, 04:53 PM
OK, I will re-phrase my statement.

Yesterday's events was one of the biggest let down in our franchise history during our Lifetimes.

The chance to get a CY Young award winner still in his prime on team that desparately needs more starting pitching.

I don't know how old you are, but 1984 was higher up there for me. Losing in the playoffs like they did in 83 was a huge disappointment. But tanking the next season made me realize that although you could count on lots of losing seasons strung together, it was much harder to have back to back playoff seasons. I thought that since they were bad since I started paying attention to baseball in 1977 and disappointed me for 6 years before they made the playoffs, they would at least be able to have winning seasons for that many in a row after 1983.

The Sox have taught me alot about life and appreciating the moment now

voodoochile
05-22-2009, 05:22 PM
Man there's a lot of threads in this forum with the word Worst in the title...

I liked the one from Brian26 in December 2004 bemoaning the loss of Mags...

But, that wasn't what I was searching for...

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34421

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=42187

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=19235

TommyJohn
05-22-2009, 05:48 PM
Man there's a lot of threads in this forum with the word Worst in the title...

I liked the one from Brian26 in December 2004 bemoaning the loss of Mags...

But, that wasn't what I was searching for...

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34421

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=42187

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=19235


Looks like we've had a lot of "worst days ever."

WhiteSoxJunkie
05-25-2009, 07:31 PM
We lost 19-0 to the Angels back in 02. At least we scored a run last Thursday.

Brian26
05-25-2009, 11:04 PM
Man there's a lot of threads in this forum with the word Worst in the title...

I liked the one from Brian26 in December 2004 bemoaning the loss of Mags...

I was afraid to go back and read that. :tongue: