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sunofgold
05-18-2009, 08:54 PM
I know. Defensively horrible. Even worse than Fields.

However, with only 36 ABs, he is tied of second on this team with 5 doubles. .250 average on a team with about a .246 team batting average. Heck, he is above average. haha!

He really hasn't seen that much playing time. He isn't getting consistents ABs. We have tried Fields and Nix at 3B. Neither one has done that much.

So all that I am saying, give Betemit a chance? Only player that we really haven't seen a lot of. haha!

It's Dankerific
05-18-2009, 08:57 PM
I think the ability to field the position is a necessity. Therefore, I am against Betemit getting time at 3rd.

Britt Burns
05-18-2009, 08:57 PM
Um, no. He's terrible with the glove and hasn't shown to be that good of a hitter. At any rate, he is not a long term solution there, and the Sox need conclusively to see whether Fields is or is not that solution.

JB98
05-18-2009, 09:01 PM
I'd also pass on this suggestion. It's sink-or-swim time for Josh Fields. The Sox need to find out this year whether this guy is a long-term solution at the position.

We already know what Betemit is. We need to find out what Fields can and cannot do.

sunofgold
05-18-2009, 09:03 PM
I thought that he was signed to compete with Fields for the job at 3rd. Fields isn't going a very good job.

If we aren't going to play him, why did we trade for him? Just to save salary. hahaha!

Noneck
05-18-2009, 09:05 PM
If we aren't going to play him, why did we trade for him? Just to save salary. hahaha!

Maybe so, With all the batting practice these guys should be taking, a bag of balls may come in handy.

JB98
05-18-2009, 09:05 PM
I thought that he was signed to compete with Fields for the job at 3rd. Fields isn't going a very good job.

If we aren't going to play him, why did we trade for him? Just to save salary. hahaha!

I don't think they ever considered him as competition for Fields. Betemit is a pinch-hitter. He's got pop from both sides of the plate. That's the role he's in, and that's the role he should be in.

sunofgold
05-18-2009, 09:09 PM
then we should have just kept Uribe. I think Uribe would have cost us less than Betemit. haha!

SoxGirl4Life
05-18-2009, 09:13 PM
No. Betemit should never play a defensive position on purpose. I miss Paulie's slow ass at first and JD's awkward lumbering in right when they're not there.

JB98
05-18-2009, 09:15 PM
then we should have just kept Uribe. I think Uribe would have cost us less than Betemit. haha!

Huh? Betemit is in an entirely different role than Uribe was. Uribe was placed in the utility role last season because of his good glove. Uribe's old job is currently being filled by Jayson Nix.

Betemit is in the Ross Gload mold. He's a guy who can swing lefty off the bench.

Noneck
05-18-2009, 09:18 PM
Thome might play a better 3rd than Betemit.

Daver
05-18-2009, 09:18 PM
I think the ability to field the position is a necessity.

Then why is Josh Fields out there?

It's Dankerific
05-18-2009, 09:30 PM
Then why is Josh Fields out there?

I don't make the lineups. :shrug:

cheezheadsoxfan
05-18-2009, 09:38 PM
How much of a chance has Nix been given? Not arguing, just asking.

Domeshot17
05-18-2009, 09:41 PM
We need to give Fields a full year to see what he can do. This is obviously a wasted year anyway, so lets use it to see what we can get out of Fields, Anderson, Getz and company.

soxinem1
05-18-2009, 09:45 PM
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a339/darkest_red/JakeBlues.jpg

' NO, ****ING, WAY.'

JB98
05-18-2009, 09:52 PM
How much of a chance has Nix been given? Not arguing, just asking.

Nix is a good glove, no hit kind of infielder.

soxinem1
05-18-2009, 09:58 PM
Nix is a good glove, no hit kind of infielder.

No he is not. He's hit at every level he's been given a chance to play regularly.

sunofgold
05-18-2009, 10:00 PM
Offense has been real bad. And those goggles give him 20/20 vision! Seems like KW believed that Betemit could play an IF position. I think that KW has changed his mind on that. haha! I want to see what Betemit can do with the goggles!

"Betemit hasnít lived up to his billing since becoming a prospect in Atlantaís organization at 16, but Williams believes he could blossom thanks to his adjustment to prescription goggles."

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/nov/14/sports/chi-14-white-sox-nick-swisher-chnov14

Offense has been real bad. And those goggles give him 20/20 vision!

palehozenychicty
05-18-2009, 11:58 PM
Naw.

Lillian
05-19-2009, 09:53 AM
I'm not necessarily in favor of giving Betemit a lot of playing time at third, but it should be mentioned that he is a better hitter from the left side. If there were a way to get him more at bats vs. right handed pitchers, without his defense becoming too much of a liability, that could be intriguing.

As I argued a couple months ago, this team is very short on left handed offense.

veeter
05-19-2009, 10:14 AM
I think Josh needs #22 back. Before he gave it up he was playing great ball.

ChiSoxFan81
05-19-2009, 10:40 AM
His defense would cost us more runs than any offensive output he might have.

Chicken Dinner
05-19-2009, 12:42 PM
Grasping here. WB ain't the answer.

forrestg
05-19-2009, 01:32 PM
When the sox first got Betemit I thought how is this going to work. He bats better from the left hand side and is better against righties. Fields hits lefties better than righties but Ozzie never goes by statistics and plays both players usually at times that defy logic.

KempersRS
05-19-2009, 01:40 PM
Serious question: Does anyone honestly think Fields is the answer? I realize he has been up and down the past 3 years, but he hasn't shown any signs of progress from what I have seen.

Considering both his offense and defense, is there a worse starting third baseman in baseball right now?

doublem23
05-19-2009, 01:52 PM
then we should have just kept Uribe. I think Uribe would have cost us less than Betemit. haha!

No, I think it would have at least cost us something like $4 million to keep Uribe. Betemit is only getting paid $1.3 M.

LITTLE NELL
05-19-2009, 01:52 PM
Serious question: Does anyone honestly think Fields is the answer? I realize he has been up and down the past 3 years, but he hasn't shown any signs of progress from what I have seen.

Considering both his offense and defense, is there a worse starting third baseman in baseball right now?
Is there a worse team in baseball right now?

Paulwny
05-19-2009, 01:55 PM
Serious question: Does anyone honestly think Fields is the answer? I realize he has been up and down the past 3 years, but he hasn't shown any signs of progress from what I have seen.

Considering both his offense and defense, is there a worse starting third baseman in baseball right now?

No there isn't.
Before the season started many posters never thought Fields was the answer, but were put down by many, "he was injured last year".
What's this year's excuse?

cheezheadsoxfan
05-19-2009, 01:55 PM
Serious question: Does anyone honestly think Fields is the answer? I realize he has been up and down the past 3 years, but he hasn't shown any signs of progress from what I have seen.

Considering both his offense and defense, is there a worse starting third baseman in baseball right now?

Good point. I've tried not to bash Field too much. A lot of players would have a hard time following Crede's glove. But so far he has looked barely adequate on the field. So if the bat doesn't come around what do we have???

Granted Betemit is worse.

DSpivack
05-19-2009, 01:56 PM
Is there a worse team in baseball right now?

Yes. The Nats are on a 48-114 pace.

LITTLE NELL
05-19-2009, 02:05 PM
Yes. The Nats are on a 48-114 pace.
I was thinking more in the span of the last 10 days. I know we don't have the worst W-L record but we could be heading that way.

palehozenychicty
05-19-2009, 02:09 PM
I think Josh needs #22 back. Before he gave it up he was playing great ball.


I buy it. He was fine before the number switch.

doublem23
05-19-2009, 03:05 PM
I buy it. He was fine before the number switch.

His timing is all off in the lighter jersey.

:cool:

DSpivack
05-19-2009, 03:11 PM
I was thinking more in the span of the last 10 days. I know we don't have the worst W-L record but we could be heading that way.

Could be heading that way? The Sox might be bad this month, and they could very well have a losing season, but no way do they even approach the pathetic state that is the Nats.

It's Dankerific
05-19-2009, 03:22 PM
No there isn't.
Before the season started many posters never thought Fields was the answer, but were put down by many, "he was injured last year".
What's this year's excuse?

"its only may 19th"

DickAllen72
05-19-2009, 05:52 PM
Thome might play a better 3rd than Betemit.
He just might. The sad thing is, he'd probably play a better 3B than Fields as well. :(:

Taliesinrk
05-19-2009, 05:54 PM
Say no to drugs. It's not Betemit's hits that are concerning. It's his Ks and the way he looks at the plate.... it's baaaadddd

Craig Grebeck
05-19-2009, 10:30 PM
No he is not. He's hit at every level he's been given a chance to play regularly.
The moon is made of cheese. Sidewalks in Lansing, MI are made from sweet tarts. My laptop was designed by a pack of giraffes. Winston Churchill shot Franz Ferdinand.

Shall I go on?

This is so easily disprovable. Look at his stats!

4 points
05-23-2009, 05:40 AM
05/21/2009- The day the "Beatmymeat" at 3rd threads died.:D:

Huisj
05-23-2009, 06:37 AM
Sidewalks in Lansing, MI are made from sweet tarts.

Sweet, I did not know that. I'll have to check that out this afternoon.

Are the roads made of them too? Because that might explain the pothole problem.

WSox597
05-23-2009, 08:33 AM
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/betemwi01.shtml?redir

I don't think so, he's never been a standout hitter at any level.

DonnieDarko
05-23-2009, 11:42 AM
Jesus. Whenever I see Betemit on the field, I get nervous. He just proved me right the last outting he had. I seriously hope that we get rid of him after this year is over and bring up someone from the minors to take the utility Corner IF role. How's out 3B in Charlotte doing? I don't think that Viciedo would be a good choice since his D is supposedely bad. Or is it? How is he doing in Birmingham?

tick53
05-23-2009, 11:45 AM
I'm all for Betemit playing third (in the minors).

Big D
05-23-2009, 01:51 PM
Betemit might be worse than Andy Gonzalez defensively. I never thought I'd be able to say that about a player.

Dibbs
05-23-2009, 02:30 PM
I would feel more comfortable putting myself at 3rd. Betemit is one of Kenny's worst acquisitions.