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Viva Medias B's
05-13-2009, 08:25 AM
With the Padres in town to play the Cubs, there is all this talk about Jake Peavy as if the Cubs' acquisition of him is a "foregone conclusion." Have we given any thought about our team getting Peavy instead? The last time I looked, we could use an upgrade in our starting rotation. We need a pitcher like Peavy more than the Cubs do. What would it take to get Peavy on the White Sox?

guillen4life13
05-13-2009, 08:32 AM
Lots and lots of gold. http://images.cafepress.com/image/11925852_400x400.jpg

kittle42
05-13-2009, 08:35 AM
I would suggest using the Bugs Bunny "dress up like a female bunny" technique to lure Peavy.

Metalthrasher442
05-13-2009, 10:12 AM
First acquire Lebron.. then trade him and carlos quentin for Peavy

Billy Ashley
05-13-2009, 10:20 AM
Peavy is tremendous, but the cost is likely very high. More so when one considers he's got a ton of red flags in regards to his health.

An offer for Peavy begins with Gordon Beckham and likely would include one of Danks/Floyd.

If Kenny Williams could get him for Beckham and Floyd, it would be a no brainer- but Danks would be a pretty large loss.

doublem23
05-13-2009, 10:25 AM
Peavy has a full no-trade clause in his contract until 2011, so this discussion probably ends here.

Sockinchisox
05-13-2009, 10:25 AM
Peavy won't come here, I believe he's already stated the teams he would allow himself to be traded to.

JohnTucker0814
05-13-2009, 10:29 AM
Peavy is tremendous, but the cost is likely very high. More so when one considers he's got a ton of red flags in regards to his health.

An offer for Peavy begins with Gordon Beckham and likely would include one of Danks/Floyd.

If Kenny Williams could get him for Beckham and Floyd, it would be a no brainer- but Danks would be a pretty large loss.

Why would you give up Beckham at this time? Peavy is only signed through 2011 and you never know how healthy a pitcher is, look at B. Webb...

Billy Ashley
05-13-2009, 10:35 AM
Why would you give up Beckham at this time? Peavy is only signed through 2011 and you never know how healthy a pitcher is, look at B. Webb...

I wasn't saying that the White Sox should do it. Just that the cost would likely include a young major league pitcher and a very good prospect.

If I were a GM, I'd stay 1000 miles away from Peavy. Great pitcher, with bad splits and an iffy arm.

CWSpalehoseCWS
05-13-2009, 10:59 AM
The cost would be too great IMO. I would rather just wait until the end of the season when Thome and Contreras's contracts are off the books and sign someone through free agency.

Not to change subjects, but what's up with Ben Sheets? Is he done, or just rehabbing?

KenBerryGrab
05-13-2009, 11:03 AM
Not to change subjects, but what's up with Ben Sheets? Is he done, or just rehabbing?

Rehabbing, allegedly will be ready sometime in June.

kitekrazy
05-13-2009, 11:16 AM
I'm still trying to figure out why the Cubs need him.
I don't think they have anyone to trade. They've got a lot of over priced talent with long contracts.

CWSpalehoseCWS
05-13-2009, 11:19 AM
Rehabbing, allegedly will be ready sometime in June.

If that's the case, I'd rather take a chance on him.

jabrch
05-13-2009, 11:58 AM
He has not been all that great this year -ok - not great. He's expensive - we'd have to give SD a ton for him, and he doesn't want to be here.

JB98
05-13-2009, 12:19 PM
I keep crossing my fingers and hoping the Cubs trade for Peavy --- because I think Peavy is in decline.

WhiteSox5187
05-13-2009, 01:45 PM
Unless the Padres are willing to accept Lillibridge for him, I don't see it happening.

DumpJerry
05-13-2009, 02:00 PM
Unless the Padres are willing to accept Lillibridge for him, I don't see it happening.
:kneeslap:

LoveYourSuit
05-13-2009, 02:34 PM
I keep crossing my fingers and hoping the Cubs trade for Peavy --- because I think Peavy is in decline.

me too.

I think he is not the same guy from a few years back.

102605
05-13-2009, 02:59 PM
I've watched Peavy's starts this season and much of the past two years.

He is NOT the same guy who won the Cy Young in 2007. He LEADS all of baseball with 5 losses so far this season.

Something has not been right with him for all of last year and this season so far. I know W-L is deceiving, especially playing for the Padres but I would stay far away from him. I think his downward trends are going to continue.

I would LOVE if the Cubs threw everything they could at the Padres to get him. Vitters and more. The Padres could use the help!

Craig Grebeck
05-13-2009, 03:43 PM
I've watched Peavy's starts this season and much of the past two years.

He is NOT the same guy who won the Cy Young in 2007. He LEADS all of baseball with 5 losses so far this season.

Something has not been right with him for all of last year and this season so far. I know W-L is deceiving, especially playing for the Padres but I would stay far away from him. I think his downward trends are going to continue.

I would LOVE if the Cubs threw everything they could at the Padres to get him. Vitters and more. The Padres could use the help!
If you know that losses are deceiving, why cite them and put them in such a supercilious font? They are worthless as a statistic, and serve no purpose.

doublem23
05-13-2009, 03:50 PM
If you know that losses are deceiving, why cite them and put them in such a supercilious font? They are worthless as a statistic, and serve no purpose.

They're not totally meaningless. They just tell an incomplete story.

Craig Grebeck
05-13-2009, 03:51 PM
They're not totally meaningless.
In terms of pitching statistics, where would you rank wins and losses? Seriously? What on earth would they be ahead of?

WhiteSox5187
05-13-2009, 03:53 PM
In terms of pitching statistics, where would you rank wins and losses? Seriously? What on earth would they be ahead of?

For me they'd be behind ERA and WHIP. A 20 game winner is a guy worth having even if he has a low K:BB ratio or a high ERA+ or whatever. However they're not quite as valuable when you're on a lousy team. Buerhle won just ten games in '07 but had he not been on a ninety loss team he could have won at least 15 and maybe even 20.

Craig Grebeck
05-13-2009, 03:58 PM
For me they'd be behind ERA and WHIP. A 20 game winner is a guy worth having even if he has a low K:BB ratio or a high ERA+ or whatever. However they're not quite as valuable when you're on a lousy team. Buerhle won just ten games in '07 but had he not been on a ninety loss team he could have won at least 15 and maybe even 20.
If a guy has 20 wins, he more than likely has a low ERA, WHIP, etc.

Suppose there are two pitchers:

PLAYER A: 13-11, 2.49 ERA, 1.08 WHIP, ERA+ 136 (198 IP)
PLAYER B: 21-7, 3.55 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, ERA+ 117 (200 IP)

Who is better? What statistic tells you more?

kittle42
05-13-2009, 04:09 PM
Suppose there are two pitchers:

PLAYER A: 13-11, 2.49 ERA, 1.08 WHIP, ERA+ 136 (198 IP)
PLAYER B: 21-7, 3.55 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, ERA+ 117 (200 IP)

Who is better? What statistic tells you more?

A is better. B's team likely had a better record, scored more runs for the guy, or both.

OR

Answer of a certain segment of WSI: "B is better. He's a winner! Heart, soul! Chicago tough!"

mjmcend
05-13-2009, 04:11 PM
A is better. B's team likely had a better record, scored more runs for the guy, or both.

OR

Answer of a certain segment of WSI: "B is better. He's a winner! Heart, soul! Chicago tough!"

And A is much more likely to be good again next year.

Brian26
05-13-2009, 06:36 PM
And A is much more likely to be good again next year.

Based on a sample size of one season?

What if "A" had a career year and "B" found a flaw in his mechanics that he solved the following year? No, those numbers don't tell you anything about how they're going to perform the following year.

JermaineDye05
05-13-2009, 08:15 PM
I looooove Jake Peavy. He won't be coming here though, not unless Barack Obama decides it a national security matter to get Jake Peavy and Albert Pujols off of their respective teams.

PatK
05-13-2009, 08:28 PM
He'd get lit like an X-mas tree at US Cellular.

kittle42
05-13-2009, 09:41 PM
He'd get lit like an X-mas tree at US Cellular.

Not if he was pitching against these Sox.

4 points
05-18-2009, 04:27 AM
With the Padres in town to play the Cubs, there is all this talk about Jake Peavy as if the Cubs' acquisition of him is a "foregone conclusion." Have we given any thought about our team getting Peavy instead? The last time I looked, we could use an upgrade in our starting rotation. We need a pitcher like Peavy more than the Cubs do. What would it take to get Peavy on the White Sox?

50 million dollars and an act of god.:gulp:

4 points
05-18-2009, 04:31 AM
He has not been all that great this year -ok - not great. He's expensive - we'd have to give SD a ton for him, and he doesn't want to be here.

Well, we did give Gavin 15.5.:scratch:

4 points
05-18-2009, 04:34 AM
Unless the Padres are willing to accept Lillibridge for him, I don't see it happening.

If Peavy had both arms and one foot amputated, I`d still trade Lillibridge straight up for him.:D: