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Ditka v. God
05-07-2009, 11:04 PM
I've noticed recently that most of the attention most people are giving to our minor league system surrounds the "uber-prospects" in our system. (i.e. Beckham, Viciedo, Flowers, JorDanks, Poreda, etc.) I was wondering which players the die-hard minor league followers had their eye on that doesn't really get their due attention.

My top five currently are:

C.J. Retherford (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=C.J.%20Retherford&pos=3B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=522728) - (Birmingham, 2B) - 23 year old undrafted free agent that might be the best pure ballplayer on a loaded Barons squad. Reminds me of a hard-nosed, throwback.

Daniel Hudson (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Daniel%20Hudson&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543339)/Dexter Carter (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Dexter%20Carter&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=488767) - (Winston-Salem, SP/Kannapolis, SP) - I put these two together because they're both from Old Dominion, drafted in the same draft, both have been absolutely sick since entering professional ball and both are best friends to boot.

Christian Marrero (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Christian%20Marrero&pos=OF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=461842) - (W-S, LF) - younger brother of Eli Marrero, Christian started the season off on a tear and made JorDanks look bad for a while. Good baseball pedigree, seems to be an advanced hitter for his age.

Brent Morel (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Brent%20Morel&pos=3B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543569) - (W-S, 3B) - last year's third round pick, came flying out of the gate last year and after a slow start this year has really poured it on lately. Currently has 6HR and 10SB this year. (only 1CS) Maybe potentially a homeless man's David Wright? :dunno:

Stefan Gartrell (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Stefan%20Gartrell&pos=CF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=501804) - (Birmingham, OF) - nothing from his stats really pop out at you but I've always liked how he's managed to adjust to every league he's been pushed to. I get the feeling that he could be a sleeper, Ellis Burks-type potentially.

Anyone else have any "underrated favorites"?

DirtySox
05-07-2009, 11:35 PM
Put me in the Hudson/Carter and Morel camp.

Morel has been on a tear lately and his BA is beginning to creep up to where it should be. On top of that his plate discipline is looking good and the power that many scouts said wouldn't translate has been there so far.

Hudson and Carter everyone should be pulling for, as they are most likely the best young pitching prospects we have in a thin pitching system. (Aside from Poreda of course) They are also a great story as you already mentioned. Especially Carter after his dreadful college numbers have turned into exceptional ones after the Sox changed his mechanics. Both have ceilings of 3rd or 4th starters.

Side note, I was really looking forward to listening to Matusz vs Hudson in his High-A debut, and was very disappointed that it was rained out yesterday. Then today his rescheduled debut was cut short to 2.0 IP because of a rain delay. He did post a solid line though:

2 IP, 0 hits, 0 BB, 3 K

Craig Grebeck
05-08-2009, 12:50 AM
I've noticed recently that most of the attention most people are giving to our minor league system surrounds the "uber-prospects" in our system. (i.e. Beckham, Viciedo, Flowers, JorDanks, Poreda, etc.) I was wondering which players the die-hard minor league followers had their eye on that doesn't really get their due attention.

My top five currently are:

C.J. Retherford (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=C.J.%20Retherford&pos=3B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=522728) - (Birmingham, 2B) - 23 year old undrafted free agent that might be the best pure ballplayer on a loaded Barons squad. Reminds me of a hard-nosed, throwback.

Daniel Hudson (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Daniel%20Hudson&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543339)/Dexter Carter (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Dexter%20Carter&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=488767) - (Winston-Salem, SP/Kannapolis, SP) - I put these two together because they're both from Old Dominion, drafted in the same draft, both have been absolutely sick since entering professional ball and both are best friends to boot.

Christian Marrero (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Christian%20Marrero&pos=OF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=461842) - (W-S, LF) - younger brother of Eli Marrero, Christian started the season off on a tear and made JorDanks look bad for a while. Good baseball pedigree, seems to be an advanced hitter for his age.

Brent Morel (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Brent%20Morel&pos=3B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543569) - (W-S, 3B) - last year's third round pick, came flying out of the gate last year and after a slow start this year has really poured it on lately. Currently has 6HR and 10SB this year. (only 1CS) Maybe potentially a homeless man's David Wright? :dunno:

Stefan Gartrell (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Stefan%20Gartrell&pos=CF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=501804) - (Birmingham, OF) - nothing from his stats really pop out at you but I've always liked how he's managed to adjust to every league he's been pushed to. I get the feeling that he could be a sleeper, Ellis Burks-type potentially.

Anyone else have any "underrated favorites"?
That's stupid.

I like Tyler Kuhn a bit. Lucas Harrell as well.

NLaloosh
05-08-2009, 03:12 AM
Morel looks good with big possibilities.

Hudson/ Carter are hard to tell until they get to Birmingham. 22 year old college pitchers dominating A ball doesn't say all that much.

cws05champ
05-08-2009, 08:52 AM
Tyler Kuhn, Jose Martinez and John Shelby. Kuhn hit hit and hit some more when he started last year. He has moved to the OF because of too many IF's on the team. I think I remember Baseball America saying that Kuhn was a prospect that fell through the cracks and hopefully the Sox can benefit 2-3 years down the road.

BigPapaPump
05-08-2009, 08:52 AM
Kenneth Williams Jr.

Ditka v. God
05-08-2009, 04:56 PM
That's stupid.

I like Tyler Kuhn a bit. Lucas Harrell as well.

First off, thanks!!! That was rather insightful and a valuable contribution to the thread. I'll disregard the fact that comments like these are usually made by mental midgets with an intellectual Napoleon complex and move along.

Second of all, what other player on the Birmingham squad do you know of that could play any position on the field (including pitcher) and still hit for the best average on the team for a better part of the season?

There are some people in this world that are just pure negative energy and a complete drain on society as a whole and as you've demonstrated throughout your posting history on WSI, you sir are a perfect example of one of these people.

Also, I'd like to thank all the other posters that have responded with well thought out, constructive replies.

CHISOXFAN13
05-08-2009, 06:42 PM
Kenneth Williams Jr.

Thanks for nothing.

Craig Grebeck
05-08-2009, 07:38 PM
First off, thanks!!! That was rather insightful and a valuable contribution to the thread. I'll disregard the fact that comments like these are usually made by mental midgets with an intellectual Napoleon complex and move along.

Second of all, what other player on the Birmingham squad do you know of that could play any position on the field (including pitcher) and still hit for the best average on the team for a better part of the season?

There are some people in this world that are just pure negative energy and a complete drain on society as a whole and as you've demonstrated throughout your posting history on WSI, you sir are a perfect example of one of these people.

Also, I'd like to thank all the other posters that have responded with well thought out, constructive replies.
If you simply stated that you were impressed with Retherford's versatility and ability to hit for contact, that'd be alright. But, you called him possibly the best "pure ballplayer" in Birmingham. That's ridiculous.

Ditka v. God
05-08-2009, 08:00 PM
If you simply stated that you were impressed with Retherford's versatility and ability to hit for contact, that'd be alright. But, you called him possibly the best "pure ballplayer" in Birmingham. That's ridiculous.

And if you had simply asked for my reasoning behind in making this comment or provided a player as a better example rather than flinging a childish "quip" at me, than maybe you wouldn't come off like a complete and total chode.

Craig Grebeck
05-08-2009, 08:41 PM
And if you had simply asked for my reasoning behind in making this comment or provided a player as a better example rather than flinging a childish "quip" at me, than maybe you wouldn't come off like a complete and total chode.
It was a stupid statement, and still is, even with your reasoning. Let it go.

rdivaldi
05-08-2009, 09:23 PM
It was a stupid statement, and still is, even with your reasoning. Let it go.

Maybe calling someone "stupid" wasn't the smartest thing to do. Doesn't exactly further the conversation.

Britt Burns
05-09-2009, 12:10 AM
Don't call me stupid.

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sullythered
05-09-2009, 01:50 AM
It was a stupid statement, and still is, even with your reasoning. Let it go.
Calling it "stupid" did sound a little douschey. And reiterating makes it sound even more douschey. Whether the statement is right or wrong.

Good rule of thumb: if saying something a certain way might get you punched in the mouth in the real world, it's probably not cool to say it over the internet either.

Lillian
05-09-2009, 04:01 AM
I'm very intrigued by C. J. Retherford. After his big game last night in which he hit his 9th double, and two more homers, he's the Barons leading hitter. He's supposed to be a "fire plug", at 5' 10" and 190, and another real baseball "rat". Kind of reminds me of Nix, only probably better.
I personally love guys like that, guys who are just good, sound baseball players, even though they may not be great, gifted athletes. Natural 5 tool athletes like Griffey, and A-Rod are beautiful to watch, but guys like C. J. earn respect for their love of, and dedication to the game. How can you not root for a guy like that?

Here is what I said in another thread, a couple of days ago:

I wish that the organization would start grooming this guy as a future catcher.
I don't care which team he plays on, and whether he eventually becomes their regular, or back up catcher. That would likely depend a lot on what they ultimately decide to do with Flowers. Apparently there is still some doubt as to whether Flowers belongs behind the plate, or at First.

At any rate, Retherford's coach at ASU believed that catching was his best opportunity for a future in baseball. Apparently the guy can play almost anywhere, and is a real baseball "rat".

Hawk Harrelson loves this guy, as do many other people who have seen him play. C. J. is a doubles machine. He set a Pioneer League record with 30 2B's in just 261 at bats in 2007. He already has 8 in just 69 at bats this year.

I don't know why they are using him at second. How many more middle infielders does this organization need? He has played a lot of third as well, but I'd still love to see him work on becoming a catcher.
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EMachine10
05-09-2009, 09:29 AM
I'm very intrigued by C. J. Retherford. After his big game last night in which he hit his 9th double, and two more homers, he's the Barons leading hitter. He's supposed to be a "fire plug", at 5' 10" and 190, and another real baseball "rat". Kind of reminds me of Nix, only probably better.
I personally love guys like that, guys who are just good, sound baseball players, even though they may not be great, gifted athletes. Natural 5 tool athletes like Griffey, and A-Rod are beautiful to watch, but guys like C. J. earn respect for their love of, and dedication to the game. How can you not root for a guy like that?

Here is what I said in another thread, a couple of days ago:

I wish that the organization would start grooming this guy as a future catcher.
I don't care which team he plays on, and whether he eventually becomes their regular, or back up catcher. That would likely depend a lot on what they ultimately decide to do with Flowers. Apparently there is still some doubt as to whether Flowers belongs behind the plate, or at First.

At any rate, Retherford's coach at ASU believed that catching was his best opportunity for a future in baseball. Apparently the guy can play almost anywhere, and is a real baseball "rat".

Hawk Harrelson loves this guy, as do many other people who have seen him play. C. J. is a doubles machine. He set a Pioneer League record with 30 2B's in just 261 at bats in 2007. He already has 8 in just 69 at bats this year.

I don't know why they are using him at second. How many more middle infielders does this organization need? He has played a lot of third as well, but I'd still love to see him work on becoming a catcher.
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I read Chris Coste's book and he said that coaches moved him to catcher to try and ensure his ticket to the big leagues. Took him a while, but he got there. It sounds like CJ might be in the Getz mold but with more power. If this is true, I can see why Hawk loves him so much.

DirtySox
05-09-2009, 01:14 PM
Retherford has been intriguing no doubt. It would be nice to get more information on him, as I have seen little to nothing written. (And I don't put much stock into Hawk's ramblings) His stats thus far are very good, but I hope he starts to take some more walks as the season progresses.

Bill Naharodny
05-09-2009, 01:16 PM
And if you had simply asked for my reasoning behind in making this comment or provided a player as a better example rather than flinging a childish "quip" at me, than maybe you wouldn't come off like a complete and total chode.

Don't worry about that guy. He knows very little and thinks he knows it all. And the rest of us here know THAT.

Besides, I wasn't even sure what he was calling "stupid," since your post had about 5 points in it (each of which were interesting, by the way). But, again, consider the source.

Craig Grebeck
05-09-2009, 01:30 PM
Don't worry about that guy. He knows very little and thinks he knows it all. And the rest of us here know THAT.

Besides, I wasn't even sure what he was calling "stupid," since your post had about 5 points in it (each of which were interesting, by the way). But, again, consider the source.
It is stupid to state that Retherford may be the best pure ballplayer in Birmingham when Beckham, Allen, Poreda, Flowers etc. are all there. It's a stupid statement. The poster is not stupid, but his point was.

CashMan
05-09-2009, 01:38 PM
It is stupid to state that Retherford may be the best pure ballplayer in Birmingham when Beckham, Allen, Poreda, Flowers etc. are all there. It's a stupid statement. The poster is not stupid, but his point was.


I do not think you are getting, there is a difference between a baseball player player being great at one position, and a baseball player being good a several positions. I think a good example might be Craig Biggio. I think he said, he could play multiple positions/pitch/and hit for avg. I think that is a good pure baseball player. And it is not stupid to state his opinion.

SoxNation05
05-09-2009, 04:07 PM
Tyler Kuhn and Jon Gilmore.

Ditka v. God
05-10-2009, 12:15 AM
I do not think you are getting, there is a difference between a baseball player player being great at one position, and a baseball player being good a several positions. I think a good example might be Craig Biggio. I think he said, he could play multiple positions/pitch/and hit for avg. I think that is a good pure baseball player. And it is not stupid to state his opinion.

Thank you Cashman, this was exactly what I was trying to get across but you've articulated it far better than I did.

And thanks to everyone else that has posted their responses to the original purpose of this thread, this is going to be a very exciting year for our minor league clubs. I'm almost more excited to follow some of the minor league games this year than the actual Sox games. :D:

CashMan
05-10-2009, 01:09 AM
Thank you Cashman, this was exactly what I was trying to get across but you've articulated it far better than I did.

And thanks to everyone else that has posted their responses to the original purpose of this thread, this is going to be a very exciting year for our minor league clubs. I'm almost more excited to follow some of the minor league games this year than the actual Sox games. :D:


I knew what you were saying, but looked like you just needed it to be said another way. I think another player like this is Zach Greinke, he can hit, but dominates pitching.

California Sox
05-10-2009, 08:02 PM
Another guy who's not a huge prospect but has a chance is Charlie Shirek. Good arm, sort of a checkered past. Really hurt his draft position coming out of Nebraska. I'm rooting for him.

Ditka v. God
05-10-2009, 09:15 PM
Another guy who's not a huge prospect but has a chance is Charlie Shirek. Good arm, sort of a checkered past. Really hurt his draft position coming out of Nebraska. I'm rooting for him.

Good choice! He's got a really inspirational story coming out of college, sort of reminds me of Bobby Jenks past.

By the way, he had another solid outing in W-S today (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2009_05_10_potafa_wswafa_2&t=g_box&did=milb), definitely a guy everyone should keep their eye on.

Birmingham_10
05-18-2009, 03:16 PM
Retherford has been intriguing no doubt. It would be nice to get more information on him, as I have seen little to nothing written. (And I don't put much stock into Hawk's ramblings) His stats thus far are very good, but I hope he starts to take some more walks as the season progresses.

Anything specific that you would be interested in knowing?

DirtySox
05-18-2009, 03:44 PM
I'm just looking to gather any information I can on him. He seems to have climbed out of nowhere to put up some amazing numbers (so far) with little to no acclaim. I suppose the acclaim will be there if he sustains them.

I'm curious as to what position he is most adept at playing, since he seems to be able to play all over the infield and even caught and pitched in college. Also, Larry over at SouthsideSox always refers to Retherford's "clubfoot." I'm unsure if he is referring to a lack of speed, or perhaps an awkward stride, etc.

Either way I'm excited about him, and I hope his K rate drops a bit (it isn't terrible) while taking more walks.

DirtySox
05-18-2009, 04:08 PM
Anything specific that you would be interested in knowing?

Also, while it might be a reach, your newness and user name has me wondering... Might you be CJ? (or someone related/close to him?) Had to ask. :smile:

Birmingham_10
05-18-2009, 04:27 PM
Also, while it might be a reach, your newness and user name has me wondering... Might you be CJ? (or someone related/close to him?) Had to ask. :smile:

Nope, not CJ but in the family. So if you have anything you are curious about I can do my best to answer it.

DirtySox
05-18-2009, 05:30 PM
Nice to have you aboard.

:welcome:

The only questions I really had are listed a few posts up.

That Baron's team has certainly been fun to follow, and I look forward to their continued success.

Birmingham_10
05-18-2009, 06:15 PM
I'm just looking to gather any information I can on him. He seems to have climbed out of nowhere to put up some amazing numbers (so far) with little to no acclaim. I suppose the acclaim will be there if he sustains them.

I'm curious as to what position he is most adept at playing, since he seems to be able to play all over the infield and even caught and pitched in college. Also, Larry over at SouthsideSox always refers to Retherford's "clubfoot." I'm unsure if he is referring to a lack of speed, or perhaps an awkward stride, etc.

Either way I'm excited about him, and I hope his K rate drops a bit (it isn't terrible) while taking more walks.

CJ was born with a clubfoot. He had corrective surgery as an infant/toddler. The Doctors that conducted the surgery stated that the surgery should allow him to walk normally, but doubted that athletic activities would be truly possible. As a result he does kind of have a noteworthy gait.

As for the K/BB rate: It's at 1:4 roughly and he is shooting for 1:3. His placement in the line up is challenging that goal a bit though, I think. They are choosing to pitch to him instead and getting ahead more often than not. Can't say I blame them though with so many prospects at the top of the order.

DirtySox
05-18-2009, 06:27 PM
Ah. I had figured that might be the case. Inspiring nonetheless.

I suppose I hadn't really considered his lineup placement, but pitching to the Baron lineup certainly has you picking your poison. Opposing pitchers might want to consider pitching around him if he keeps performing the way he is.

If I had the choice I would rather have Birmingham games be televised than the White Sox at this point. :) (30 minutes until the radio broadcast at least)

DrCrawdad
05-18-2009, 06:46 PM
First off, thanks!!! That was rather insightful and a valuable contribution to the thread. I'll disregard the fact that comments like these are usually made by mental midgets with an intellectual Napoleon complex and move along.

Second of all, what other player on the Birmingham squad do you know of that could play any position on the field (including pitcher) and still hit for the best average on the team for a better part of the season?

There are some people in this world that are just pure negative energy and a complete drain on society as a whole and as you've demonstrated throughout your posting history on WSI, you sir are a perfect example of one of these people.

Also, I'd like to thank all the other posters that have responded with well thought out, constructive replies.

Consider the source.

cards press box
05-24-2009, 09:12 AM
Kenneth Williams Jr.

Williams is on the Kannapolis squad and is currently on the DL. He just turned 23 a couple of days ago. He hasn't hit much yet but he might still come around.

On the subject of CF prospects, how about Jordan Danks? He is currently hitting .370 (.370!) for Birmingham. Prior to his promotion, he was hitting .322 for Winston-Salem.

It has been a lot of fun following this Birmingham team.

I do not think you are getting, there is a difference between a baseball player player being great at one position, and a baseball player being good a several positions. I think a good example might be Craig Biggio. I think he said, he could play multiple positions/pitch/and hit for avg. I think that is a good pure baseball player. And it is not stupid to state his opinion.

Yes, that is a fair reading of the post. I don't think that Ditka v. God said that C.J. Retherford is a higher ceiling prospect than Gordon Beckham or Aaron Poreda. He did say that Retherford is a hard nosed ballplayer who can help you all over the diamond -- a player in the tradition of former Yankee Gil MacDougald, current Angel Chone Figgins or maybe former White Sox Scott Fletcher. A guy like that could always help a ballclub.

Calling it "stupid" did sound a little douschey. And reiterating makes it sound even more douschey. Whether the statement is right or wrong.

Good rule of thumb: if saying something a certain way might get you punched in the mouth in the real world, it's probably not cool to say it over the internet either.

That is an outstanding observation.

Clembasbal
05-24-2009, 10:13 AM
I am a big Logan Johnson fan. Not really doing that well this year in Winston-Salem, but I saw him play in the CWS in Omaha for Louisville and I loved it when the Sox drafted him. Last year he had a solid season, but I doubt he will make it more than the next level, that's if he even starts to hit and gets taller than 5'9"

russ99
05-24-2009, 11:49 AM
I'm pulling for John Ely to end up as a solid mid- to low rotation starter for the Sox. Nothing spectacular, just gets the job done.

And even though he's one of the higher rated prospects I think "Treybone" Shelby is a fantastic player, and doesn't get his full due, even though he might eventually just be a better version of Willie Harris.

Britt Burns
05-24-2009, 12:27 PM
I have no idea what he throws or if he is a legit prospect but Dan Remenowsky has been nothing but lights-out since he signed with the Sox as a NDFA last year. 8-1, 7 saves 1.15 ERA 47 IPs 11 BB 63 K. He's a big guy, so hopefully he has some heat.

DirtySox
05-24-2009, 12:51 PM
Actually Remenowsky is a soft tosser with a fastball in the high 80's. He has been successful because he changes speeds and has amazing command.

Ditka v. God
05-24-2009, 04:05 PM
Yes, that is a fair reading of the post. I don't think that Ditka v. God said that C.J. Retherford is a higher ceiling prospect than Gordon Beckham or Aaron Poreda. He did say that Retherford is a hard nosed ballplayer who can help you all over the diamond -- a player in the tradition of former Yankee Gil MacDougald, current Angel Chone Figgins or maybe former White Sox Scott Fletcher. A guy like that could always help a ballclub.


Exactly! Those are perfect examples of the type of player I see C.J. developing into, I know I would welcome any of those players on the Sox.

It's really nice to see some genuine enthusiasm towards our minor league system again. I've grown so accustomed to following just a handful of (let's face it, mediocre) prospects over the last few years that I'm a little overwhelmed by the depth of our entire system. And the Rookie Leagues haven't even started yet where prospects like Steven Upchurch and Nevin Griffith (if he can recover from Tommy John surgery) are still waiting to tear it up.

Edit: Another potentially "under-the-radar" prospect that's grabbed my attention this year is Justin Greene (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Justin%20Greene&pos=RF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543247) (OF - Kannapolis). Greene is a speedy outfielder drafted out of Francis Marion University last year in the 20th round, he filled up the stat sheet in the Rookie Leagues last season and looks like he's adjusting nicely to the Sally League pitching this year. It's always nice to have some speedsters in the organization.

sox1970
05-24-2009, 07:03 PM
I have no idea what he throws or if he is a legit prospect but Dan Remenowsky has been nothing but lights-out since he signed with the Sox as a NDFA last year. 8-1, 7 saves 1.15 ERA 47 IPs 11 BB 63 K. He's a big guy, so hopefully he has some heat.

Today's box:
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=g_box&gid=2009_05_24_kanafx_delafx_1&did=t487&sid=t487

Britt Burns
05-24-2009, 10:50 PM
Today's box:
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=g_box&gid=2009_05_24_kanafx_delafx_1&did=t487&sid=t487

I saw that right after I posted. Sorry to jinx you Dan...get back at it tomorrow.

35th and Shields
05-25-2009, 12:57 AM
Derek Rodriguez. The kid deserves a shot in the pen over Broadway and especially Gobble :shakehead:

4 points
05-25-2009, 04:18 AM
I've noticed recently that most of the attention most people are giving to our minor league system surrounds the "uber-prospects" in our system. (i.e. Beckham, Viciedo, Flowers, JorDanks, Poreda, etc.) I was wondering which players the die-hard minor league followers had their eye on that doesn't really get their due attention.

My top five currently are:

C.J. Retherford (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=C.J.%20Retherford&pos=3B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=522728) - (Birmingham, 2B) - 23 year old undrafted free agent that might be the best pure ballplayer on a loaded Barons squad. Reminds me of a hard-nosed, throwback.

Daniel Hudson (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Daniel%20Hudson&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543339)/Dexter Carter (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Dexter%20Carter&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=488767) - (Winston-Salem, SP/Kannapolis, SP) - I put these two together because they're both from Old Dominion, drafted in the same draft, both have been absolutely sick since entering professional ball and both are best friends to boot.

Christian Marrero (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Christian%20Marrero&pos=OF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=461842) - (W-S, LF) - younger brother of Eli Marrero, Christian started the season off on a tear and made JorDanks look bad for a while. Good baseball pedigree, seems to be an advanced hitter for his age.

Brent Morel (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Brent%20Morel&pos=3B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543569) - (W-S, 3B) - last year's third round pick, came flying out of the gate last year and after a slow start this year has really poured it on lately. Currently has 6HR and 10SB this year. (only 1CS) Maybe potentially a homeless man's David Wright? :dunno:

Stefan Gartrell (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Stefan%20Gartrell&pos=CF&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=501804) - (Birmingham, OF) - nothing from his stats really pop out at you but I've always liked how he's managed to adjust to every league he's been pushed to. I get the feeling that he could be a sleeper, Ellis Burks-type potentially.

Anyone else have any "underrated favorites"?

:scratch:. If those are your underrated favorites, I`d say, "Get off the crack pipe.:o:

cards press box
05-25-2009, 10:38 AM
Derek Rodriguez. The kid deserves a shot in the pen over Broadway and especially Gobble :shakehead:

Derek Rodriguez has certainly pitched lights out at Birmingham and Charlotte. He might well pitch in Chicago this year.

Let me throw out another pitcher: Rodriguez' teammate Jon Link. Link is 0-0 with 5 saves, a 2.18 ERA, 9 walks and 27 strikeouts in 20 and 2/3 innings. Link, too, might pitch in Chicago this summer.

cards press box
05-25-2009, 10:52 AM
:scratch:. If those are your underrated favorites, I`d say, "Get off the crack pipe.:o:

I don't get your point, at all. All of those players have played well this year, especially Retherford (6 HR 28 RBI .323 Avg. in 130 AB's), Marrero (3 HR 20 RBI .323 Avg. in 155 AB's) and Gartrell (8 HR 28 RBI and .282 Avg. in 142 AB's). The press has not rated them as the top prospects in the organization but have played well. They are, thus, underrated.

Craig Grebeck
05-25-2009, 11:00 AM
I don't get your point, at all. All of those players have played well this year, especially Retherford (6 HR 28 RBI .323 Avg. in 130 AB's), Marrero (3 HR 20 RBI .323 Avg. in 155 AB's) and Gartrell (8 HR 28 RBI and .282 Avg. in 142 AB's). The press has not rated them as the top prospects in the organization but have played well. They are, thus, underrated.
It's his shtick to make really out there and indefensibly stupid statements. Or at least it is in this case.

Retherford is making me look like an idiot. I still don't know if he'll handle AAA or MLB pitching, but he looks damn good right now.

GAsoxfan
05-25-2009, 12:53 PM
Let me throw out another pitcher: Rodriguez' teammate Jon Link. Link is 0-0 with 5 saves, a 2.18 ERA, 9 walks and 27 strikeouts in 20 and 2/3 innings. Link, too, might pitch in Chicago this summer.

Link is my favorite underrated Sox prospect. Another great trade by Kenny. Hopefully he continues to improve and can eventually take over the closer role once Jenks prices himself out of the Sox budget.

CashMan
05-25-2009, 02:50 PM
Link is my favorite underrated Sox prospect. Another great trade by Kenny. Hopefully he continues to improve and can eventually take over the closer role once Jenks prices himself out of the Sox budget.


What is Link's scouting report?

guillen4life13
05-25-2009, 08:10 PM
It's his shtick to make really out there and indefensibly stupid statements. Or at least it is in this case.

Retherford is making me look like an idiot. I still don't know if he'll handle AAA or MLB pitching, but he looks damn good right now.

Props for admitting it. For all the controversial statements you make, respect for admitting when you might be wrong. :gulp:

I'm not as knowledgeable about the farm as many of you, but from what I'm seeing of Retherford, Shelby and Link, these guys should be able to contribute at least within the next two years if not this season.

Lillian
05-28-2009, 08:29 AM
It's his shtick to make really out there and indefensibly stupid statements. Or at least it is in this case.

Retherford is making me look like an idiot. I still don't know if he'll handle AAA or MLB pitching, but he looks damn good right now.

I would like to echo guillen4life13's respect for you for admitting that you could be wrong. That's very commendable, and quite refreshing. Bravo.