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Domeshot17
05-07-2009, 02:18 PM
I haven't got the chance to see much Birmingham coverage this year, but looking at his stats, has he looked as bad as hes produced? 219 average 27 Ks to 2 Walks, a 228 OBP, an OPS that would make Podsednik look Ruthian. Any info on whats going on with him?

tm1119
05-07-2009, 02:24 PM
Very young kid seeing American pitching for the first time? Give him some time. Of course he was over hyped here, he never had a chance to play in Chicago right away. At least a year of seasoning in the minors is necessary for most kids his age.

dickallen15
05-07-2009, 02:24 PM
He just turned 20, is adjusting to a new lifestyle and culture, and has a ways to go. Thinking he could step right in like Ramirez did last year was not realistic. This kid is 6 or 7 years younger than him. You just have to hope he doesn't need 3 years of minor leagues because then the Sox would be paying $10 million for one year of being a rookie.

EMachine10
05-07-2009, 02:27 PM
I haven't got the chance to see much Birmingham coverage this year, but looking at his stats, has he looked as bad as hes produced? 219 average 27 Ks to 2 Walks, a 228 OBP, an OPS that would make Podsednik look Ruthian. Any info on whats going on with him?
I haven't seen him play, but others here will say it's merely becoming acclimated to life in America, our style of play, and we should give him a break. I agree with this to a point, but there is a time when we should be somewhat alarmed. What is really disappointing is that absurdly low walk total for a guy who is supposed to be extremely powerful. Pitchers do not seem to be afraid of him, so until he heats up and starts punishing pitches, the pitchers should continue to throw the ball right around the strike zone and let him swing and miss. I understand that Latin players traditionally do not walk very often, but he needs to pick it up relatively soon.

DirtySox
05-07-2009, 02:45 PM
I will echo alot of what has been said. Give him time as he is still acclimating not only to this country, but this country's nuances of the game. Unfortunately he can't take too much time, as his clock is ticking in regards to his contract.

From what I've read he is having loads of trouble hitting breaking pitches, particularly the slider. It eats him up. I'm hoping that once he gets a handle on the slider his plate discipline will improve, though I have a feeling he will remain a free swinger. Also the power potential is there, but it hasn't translated to game situations yet.

sox1970
05-07-2009, 02:45 PM
He had an 0-19 in there. He's actually doing better in the last 10 days, including a 3 run homer yesterday. By the end of the season, I think the numbers will be there.

CashMan
05-07-2009, 02:51 PM
I will echo alot of what has been said. Give him time as he is still acclimating not only to this country, but this country's nuances of the game. Unfortunately he can't take too much time, as his clock is ticking in regards to his contract.

From what I've read he is having loads of trouble hitting breaking pitches, particularly the slider. It eats him up. I'm hoping that once he gets a handle on the slider his plate discipline will improve, though I have a feeling he will remain a free swinger. Also the power potential is there, but it hasn't translated to game situations yet.

Ohhhhhh, so he has The Joe Borchard Syndrome?!?

CashMan
05-07-2009, 02:52 PM
He had an 0-19 in there. He's actually doing better in the last 10 days, including a 3 run homer yesterday. By the end of the season, I think the numbers will be there.


The sad thing is, that lineup is stacked. I know he has to adjust, but when you have a lineup like that a slump should be .240 avg, IMO.

asindc
05-07-2009, 02:53 PM
Ohhhhhh, so he has The Joe Borchard Syndrome?!?

You could drive a truck through Borchard's swing. I hope that is not what is going on.

Britt Burns
05-07-2009, 02:57 PM
The dude is one of the youngest-if not the youngest-player in the league, he has been in the country a few months, and as noted he had a tough 0-19 stretch that he has already broken out of. While his stats aren't great he is holding his own, and is in fact leading a stacked B-ham team in RBIs. He probably won't ever be a walk machine but everything else points to him being a very good hitter.

CashMan
05-07-2009, 03:02 PM
The dude is one of the youngest-if not the youngest-player in the league, he has been in the country a few months, and as noted he had a tough 0-19 stretch that he has already broken out of. While his stats aren't great he is holding his own, and is in fact leading a stacked B-ham team in RBIs. He probably won't ever be a walk machine but everything else points to him being a very good hitter.


I am kinda worried about him being an Adam Dunn type hitter, .230 avg 250k's but with like only 50 BB's. Then again he is 20, and hopefully he can be taught to take walks.

Domeshot17
05-07-2009, 03:03 PM
I didn't mean this to be a Bash Dayan thread. I am incredibly alarmed by his low OPS and horrible K:BB ratios and I know he is young, and he is getting adjusted. I know he can improve. I was more looking from those who have seen him to see if anyone knew what was going on. Is it breaking pitches, is he pressing, is it everything, just some bad luck etc.

CashMan
05-07-2009, 03:09 PM
I could of swore, that I read when he was 1st optioned to the minors he was going to AAA, then all of a sudden, someone posted a AA roster and he was on it.

guillensdisciple
05-07-2009, 04:23 PM
20 years old.

Look at Justin Upton, and tell me about a guy who is still acclimating to the league.

chisox616
05-07-2009, 04:51 PM
I am kinda worried about him being an Adam Dunn type hitter, .230 avg 250k's but with like only 50 BB's. Then again he is 20, and hopefully he can be taught to take walks.

Isn't Adam Dunn famous for his BB's? He had like 120 last year. Still strikes out a ton though.

CashMan
05-07-2009, 04:55 PM
Isn't Adam Dunn famous for his BB's? He had like 120 last year. Still strikes out a ton though.


I wouldn't see why he is famous. I was saying Adam Dunn like but instead of 100BB's he would have half of those.

Huisj
05-07-2009, 05:57 PM
If he drives in 100 runs in 4 out of 5 years like Dunn, I'd be ok with that.

peridot
05-07-2009, 06:26 PM
I've seen him several times so far this year and every time he's played the same way: swing at almost anything and strike out like mad. During the second game we attended my girlfriend, who is a baseball fan but not terribly knowledgeable, correctly predicted a 3-pitch swinging strikeout before he stepped into the box. If I remember correctly all the swings were high.

Right now I'm not worried about him in the long term. But since the Barons are my local team and I want to see them win as much as I want to see how the players are developing, I do get a bit frustrated in the short term.

BadBobbyJenks
05-07-2009, 10:51 PM
If Dayan becomes anything close to Adam Dunn I would be ecstatic.

Domeshot17
05-08-2009, 01:19 PM
Adam Dunn would be a great development

I am worried he could be Russell Branyan, but really its way to early to tell

guillen4life13
05-08-2009, 01:20 PM
Adam Dunn would be a great development

I am worried he could be Russell Branyan, but really its way to early to tell

Or Jeff Liefer.

Huisj
05-08-2009, 03:22 PM
Strangely, isn't everyone who has been mentioned in this thread a left handed hitter? And RH hitters he could possibly compare to?

CashMan
05-08-2009, 04:47 PM
Strangely, isn't everyone who has been mentioned in this thread a left handed hitter? And RH hitters he could possibly compare to?


Joe Borchard

DrCrawdad
05-08-2009, 11:42 PM
Joe Borchard


Joe was released by the Braves from their AAA team a couple weeks ago.

tick53
05-09-2009, 09:22 AM
Typical. The Cuban Revolution has begun once again.