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ChiSoxFan81
04-24-2009, 10:01 AM
With Nick Markakis again sticking it to the Sox, it got me thinking about guys over the years who just get us every time. At least Markakis is a really good, talented player. Sometimes there are guys who are mediocre that just kill the Sox. Guys like Mark Teahen, Nick Punto, or Jack Cust. Who are the guys that you think of currently or over the years that have been a thorn in our side?

beasly213
04-24-2009, 10:04 AM
Mike Cameron and pretty much any pitcher we are seeing for the first time.

longtimesoxguy
04-24-2009, 10:05 AM
Tito landrum!!!!!!!!!!!
Still kinda not over it

Jim Shorts
04-24-2009, 10:08 AM
Minor league pitchers

Madvora
04-24-2009, 10:16 AM
We always have these threads and these always make me remember another Oriole - Joe Orsulak

Chez
04-24-2009, 10:38 AM
Bernie Williams, Mike Sweeney and Travis Fryman.

soxjim
04-24-2009, 10:43 AM
Young pitchers whom we haven't seen as of yet.

JGarlandrules20
04-24-2009, 10:44 AM
Mike Sweeney.. definitely.
Raul Ibanez. Kevin Mench. Bobby Kielty.

Andy T Clown
04-24-2009, 10:55 AM
Mike McDougal, Jamie Navaro...Oh wait, you mean from other teams.
Sorry :redface:

DumpJerry
04-24-2009, 11:03 AM
Tito landrum!!!!!!!!!!!
Still kinda not over it
You and me, both. You and me........:whiner:

chisox77
04-24-2009, 11:14 AM
Let's see . . .

Rick Dempsey (Orioles)
Darryl Porter (Royals)
Mike Hargrove (Rangers/Indians) "The Human Rain Delay"
Mike Sweeney (Royals)

And . . .

The Pitcher We Have Never Seen Before

Just to name a few

KenBerryGrab
04-24-2009, 11:31 AM
Paul Splittorff (the Arlington Heights kid who got away)
Hal McRae (actually, a lot of Royals back then!)
Marcus Thames
Brandon Inge
Torii Hunter
Justin Morneau
Garrett Anderson

fram40
04-24-2009, 11:31 AM
One guy I always hated was Jim Thome with the Indians My memory has him hitting quite a few clutch homers against the Sox

I just checked his his splits against Sox .295/.406/.650 41 HR 107 RBI in 507 PA

tick53
04-24-2009, 11:33 AM
Greg Zaun when he was with Toronto

Nick Punto

roylestillman
04-24-2009, 11:37 AM
Even though he was mediocre at best, Lew Ford of the Twins used to kill us.

DSpivack
04-24-2009, 11:45 AM
We always have these threads and these always make me remember another Oriole - Joe Orsulak

He was at the game yesterday, they showed him on the scoreboard after his career highlights.

doublem23
04-24-2009, 11:47 AM
Ben Zobrist.

Career line: .226/.286/.388
Line vs. Sox: .323/.364/.645

I can't believe no one mentioned Joe "Cy" Mays yet.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
04-24-2009, 12:15 PM
I'm surprised no one mentioned Coco Crisp.

Even is his days with the Indians, the guy is always good for a clutch hit/homer against us at the worst possible time. He already killed us once this year.

Quentin4prez
04-24-2009, 12:17 PM
JASON kubal he rakes against us

Zisk77
04-24-2009, 12:24 PM
Smiling Joe Randa
Frank Catalonotto
Mike Sweeney
Carlos "flair" Guillen
Mark Gruds....whatever

JB98
04-24-2009, 12:36 PM
Thome killed us with the Indians. Thank goodness he is on our side now.

Others:
Johan Santana (automatic loss -- he was in the Sox heads)
Shaun Marcum
Mike Sweeney
Ryan Garko
Mark Teahan
Jason Kubel
Reed Johnson (destroyed us when he was with Toronto)

Smokey Burg
04-24-2009, 12:40 PM
Gotta go back a few years, but during my early years it seemed like Mickey Mantle usually found a way to hurt the Sox.

DVsoxfan
04-24-2009, 12:45 PM
Warren Morris

kevingrt
04-24-2009, 12:52 PM
From recent years these names come to mind:

Mike Sweeney
Nick Punto
Frank Thomas
Raul Ibanez
Ichiro

soxinem1
04-24-2009, 01:27 PM
Mike Boddicker and Cal Ripken in their primes absolutely murdered the White Sox.

Jason Kubel seems to love facing us, and at minimum he hits three warning track flyballs or screaming liners if he does not get a loud hit.

Thome was tough, but his numbers against us are on par with his career averages, so I'd say he was tough on almost everyone.

Dave Steib, Mike Sweeney, Jimmy Key, and Mike Cameron have also had solid Sox-crushing numbers.

Of course in some of those lean years of the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's a LOT of players qualified as Sox-killers.

And like a few people have pointed out, none was worse than the guy who totally stunned and silenced an enormous crowd, and many more watching on TV, on a dreary afternoon on one gloomy, cold October: Tito Landrum.

KenBerryGrab
04-24-2009, 01:33 PM
And like a few people have pointed out, none was worse than the guy who totally stunned and silenced an enormous crowd, and many more watching on TV, on a dreary afternoon on one gloomy, cold October: Tito Landrum.

It was actually a pretty nice day. I was in the upper deck behind third.

jabrch
04-24-2009, 01:48 PM
Others have said it - Mike Sweeney is the #1 that comes to mind before anyone. Although Landrum's pain was much sharper.

kittle42
04-24-2009, 01:58 PM
I took a look at the splits for a few guys in this thread and was not surpised to find that most of these are myths, or that they killed other teams just as much as the Sox. Quite a few people have called b.s. on the "pitcher we haven't seen" thing.

I also noticed that a substanial number of these guys - Mays, Ford, Kielty, Sweeney, Randa, Guillen - are (or have been) AL Central guys. We see so much more of them with the unbalanced schedule that we remember their good games against the Sox moreso than others.

Hawk doesn't help any attempt to debunk the myths, either, with his constant babbling about all players mentioned in this thread.

I will say one thing looking at the splits - Mike Cameron has indeed posted all his best career numbers vs. the Sox. These anomolies just kinda happen, and are strange in guys with long careers, because the makeup of teams change SO much these days year-to-year.

MarkZ35
04-24-2009, 02:07 PM
Mike Aviles in 2008 against the Sox. 1HR 11RBI .359 in 15 games.

RadioheadRocks
04-24-2009, 02:40 PM
I'm surprised no one mentioned Coco Crisp.

Even is his days with the Indians, the guy is always good for a clutch hit/homer against us at the worst possible time. He already killed us once this year.


I second that emotion.

Hartman
04-24-2009, 02:41 PM
Any no-name 5th starter. :tongue:

markopat
04-24-2009, 03:16 PM
And . . .

The Pitcher We Have Never Seen Before


Dang...that one hits the nail on the head!

Bucky F. Dent
04-24-2009, 06:19 PM
...............pretty much any pitcher we are seeing for the first time.


That's it. That's the list!

Bucky F. Dent
04-24-2009, 06:20 PM
And like a few people have pointed out, none was worse than the guy who totally stunned and silenced an enormous crowd, and many more watching on TV, on a dreary afternoon on one gloomy, cold October: Tito Landrum.


You had to go there.....I HATE that guy.

eastchicagosoxfan
04-24-2009, 07:03 PM
Dave Stieb was 21-5 versus the Sox.
Rick Dempsey had 47 career RBI'S versus the White Sox. His next highest total against any team was 37.