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soxyess
04-23-2009, 10:23 AM
It seems like Viciedo is struglgling. Has anybody had a chance to see him play? I was just wondering what the problem might be. I was expecting him to hit better at AA. I thought he would be in line with Beckham.

oeo
04-23-2009, 10:28 AM
He's 20 years old, just moved to an entirely new culture, and the season is young. Give him some time.

Risk
04-23-2009, 10:31 AM
He's 20 years old, just moved to an entirely new culture, and the season is young. Give him some time.

Not only that, Fields is playing well so far so there isn't a pressing need at 3rd. NO NEED TO WORRY YET.

Risk

voodoochile
04-23-2009, 10:51 AM
Not only that, Fields is playing well so far so there isn't a pressing need at 3rd. NO NEED TO WORRY YET.

Risk

Hope they give him a chance to learn LF or RF to have options. If he can hit like projected and Fields continues to succeed, I'd love to see him in LF with TCQ in RF and Dye as the DH.

guillensdisciple
04-23-2009, 10:58 AM
Anyone have his statistics so far?

CashMan
04-23-2009, 11:05 AM
Hope they give him a chance to learn LF or RF to have options. If he can hit like projected and Fields continues to succeed, I'd love to see him in LF with TCQ in RF and Dye as the DH.

I have a feeling he will need atleast one if not two years in the minors to season. And by that time, I think 1B will open up, for him to play.

DirtySox
04-23-2009, 11:08 AM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=3589

Viciedo's line is in there under "Slow Start." .191/.204/.213 in 12 games with only one Walk and 1 XBH: a Double. Also a bit about Beckham in the article.

Sargeant79
04-23-2009, 11:08 AM
Question regarding his contract:

I know it's a 4-year major league deal. Does that mean the clock to free-agency is ticking for him while he's down in the minors? Or put differently, is he a free agent after the 2012 season no matter what, even if he doesn't get called up until 2011?

doublem23
04-23-2009, 11:35 AM
Question regarding his contract:

I know it's a 4-year major league deal. Does that mean the clock to free-agency is ticking for him while he's down in the minors? Or put differently, is he a free agent after the 2012 season no matter what, even if he doesn't get called up until 2011?

:yup:

Rdy2PlayBall
04-23-2009, 12:01 PM
:yup:The humping dance motion smile doesn't seem to answer the question. At least I don't get it? :tongue:

DirtySox
04-23-2009, 12:08 PM
Hover your mouse over the smiley.

Rdy2PlayBall
04-23-2009, 12:15 PM
Hover your mouse over the smiley.
Whaaat? That's not yup. Oh well, I guess whoever named it didn't see the hands and legs going back and forth... :rolleyes:

Sargeant79
04-23-2009, 12:38 PM
Whaaat? That's not yup. Oh well, I guess whoever named it didn't see the hands and legs going back and forth... :rolleyes:

I can understand the confusion. At first glance, I thought Doub was calling me his bitch. :tongue:

tick53
04-24-2009, 11:59 AM
:wanne

"He'll be foin".

JohnTucker0814
04-24-2009, 12:01 PM
I can understand the confusion. At first glance, I thought Doub was calling me his bitch. :tongue:

Or that the White Sox were takin' it up the you know where on Dayan's contract! :redneck

DirtySox
04-25-2009, 01:45 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2009/268007.html

Question and answer about Viciedo halfway through the chat.

Says that scouts think Viciedo will be fine once he learns his strike zone, and currently sliders are eating him up. They think AA is a good spot for him especially since the Barons manager speaks Spanish.

jpafan44
04-25-2009, 02:22 PM
No way Viciedo stays at 3B IMO. He's big right now and is only going to grow more. Plus, he looked pretty slow at 3B.

guillensdisciple
05-30-2009, 09:53 PM
He got his average up to .270 today. Perhaps he is getting used to the way they pitch over here, and if he has- watch out. People say that he can be an RBI machine, not necesarrily a home-run masher, but a guy who can come up with the gappers and some home-runs (kind of like Dye).

DirtySox
05-30-2009, 10:02 PM
He has improved markedly and shows he can adjust. He is hitting alot of ground ball singles. Hopefully the adjustments continue and we start to see the power he possesses.

cws05champ
05-31-2009, 09:22 AM
Question regarding his contract:

I know it's a 4-year major league deal. Does that mean the clock to free-agency is ticking for him while he's down in the minors? Or put differently, is he a free agent after the 2012 season no matter what, even if he doesn't get called up until 2011?

:yup:

I know this is an older post, but I believe I read that the Sox have control over Alexei and Viciedo for 6 years, just like any other player. So after their 4 yr contracts are up they still have 2 arbitration years. That is a big difference than losing them to FA after just 4 years...especially with the ML contract and Viciedo in the minors.

guillensdisciple
05-31-2009, 10:41 AM
I know this is an older post, but I believe I read that the Sox have control over Alexei and Viciedo for 6 years, just like any other player. So after their 4 yr contracts are up they still have 2 arbitration years. That is a big difference than losing them to FA after just 4 years...especially with the ML contract and Viciedo in the minors.

This is where Kenny shows his true genius. These deals are unbelievable.

Hitmen77
05-31-2009, 10:54 AM
If Viciedo continues to improve/succeed in the minors, when do people think is the earliest we might see him on the Sox?



*before anyone gets worked up over this question, I'm not implying the Sox should rush him or call him up in the near future based on a "small sample size" of success in the minors. I'm just curious as to what his expected window is for making it up to the majors.

DirtySox
05-31-2009, 10:55 AM
2010 Midseason callup is the earliest I could fathom. He has alot of work to do still. (This is a best case scenario, not an advocation. This is one player that absolutely should not be rushed imo) I think the start of the 2011 season might be the most realistic.

Mr. White Sox
06-06-2009, 02:13 PM
He has improved markedly and shows he can adjust. He is hitting alot of ground ball singles. Hopefully the adjustments continue and we start to see the power he possesses.

Viciedo was 3/4 with a HR last night, raising his line to .286/.303/.381. Still a lot of work to do.

Over his last 10 games, he is 16/41, .380 with two XBH (HR and 2B).

guillensdisciple
06-06-2009, 02:35 PM
I want to figure out how long his hitting streak is, because I am pretty sure it is at 12 or 13. Anyone have an idea?

EMachine10
06-06-2009, 05:25 PM
I want to figure out how long his hitting streak is, because I am pretty sure it is at 12 or 13. Anyone have an idea?
11 I believe.

DirtySox
06-06-2009, 05:41 PM
I will be ecstatic when Dayan starts getting more XBH and walking. Very pleased that he has shown he can adjust after his terrible start though.

35th and Shields
06-06-2009, 06:20 PM
I will be ecstatic when Dayan starts getting more XBH and walking. Very pleased that he has shown he can adjust after his terrible start though.

Yeah it's always good to see a prospect, especially as young as he, adjust to a new league. Now that he's starting to make better contact I hope more xb hits are on the way.