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Oblong
03-31-2009, 08:41 AM
The Tigers have released Gary Sheffield and will eat the $13 million he's due.

THis opens up the DH spot for either Carlos Guillen and Josh Anderson/Someone else can play LF.

He's sitting on 499 HR too.

This is a bit of a surprise to say the least.

asindc
03-31-2009, 08:43 AM
The Tampa Rays perhaps?

chisox616
03-31-2009, 08:48 AM
Wha??? How bad was he hitting this spring? Surprising they wouldn't let him get 500 first...

sox102
03-31-2009, 08:51 AM
sucks for him. i'm sure a team will pick him up so he can get #500.

SoxGirl4Life
03-31-2009, 08:55 AM
Wow.. that's a huge salary to eat.

jabrch
03-31-2009, 09:02 AM
So one could safely assume that they offered him to everyone in the league for the worst prospect in their organization and said they'd eat a big chunk of the deal, rather than eat the whole thing... and nobody took them up on it?

Is it possible that Sheffield doesn't hook up anywhere this year?

champagne030
03-31-2009, 09:04 AM
The Tampa Rays perhaps?

Pat Burrell.

Mendoza Line
03-31-2009, 09:08 AM
$14 million dollars to sit at home for a year? He might as well just retire and count his money...

I wonder how much of this decision had to do with his attitude? He seemed like a volatile guy with a combatitive nature. His poor play and injuries didn't help, obviously, but I get the impression he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

ChiSoxFan81
03-31-2009, 09:27 AM
Wow. Someone in Detroit must listen to The Score. They had a Detroit media guy on this morning and he was incredulous that Sheffield was still on the team.

Chicken Dinner
03-31-2009, 09:31 AM
My money says he'll be a Blue Jay.

cards press box
03-31-2009, 09:37 AM
My money says he'll be a Blue Jay.

The A's perhaps? They are awfully lefthanded and Sheffield would give them some balance.

ChiSoxFan81
03-31-2009, 09:40 AM
My money says he'll be a Blue Jay.

The A's perhaps? They are awfully lefthanded and Sheffield would give them some balance.

I guess the loser in the Sheffield battle can re-sign The Big Hurt.

HomeFish
03-31-2009, 10:01 AM
The Tampa Rays perhaps?

Heh. They won the AL last year and people still think of them first when it comes to "who will sign this washed-up superstar for PR purposes".

sunofgold
03-31-2009, 10:16 AM
Sheffield played for Leyland before in Florida. Surprised they didn't give him a chance. If it didn't work out, they could have released him during the season or maybe even worked out a trade. Another team might have had some injuries during the season and wanted Sheffield. That's a lot of money to eat, especially now.

munchman33
03-31-2009, 10:17 AM
He'll be a Twin on opening day.

doublem23
03-31-2009, 10:19 AM
He'll be a Twin on opening day.

I'd take that bet.

kruzer31
03-31-2009, 11:38 AM
He is done. No one will sign him.

soxinem1
03-31-2009, 11:41 AM
Congrats to the first player ever released with $14 million in his contract left to pay, and one HR short of 500!

Oblong
03-31-2009, 11:53 AM
Sheffield played for Leyland before in Florida. Surprised they didn't give him a chance. If it didn't work out, they could have released him during the season or maybe even worked out a trade. Another team might have had some injuries during the season and wanted Sheffield. That's a lot of money to eat, especially now.

It was more about the roster spot I think. It pretty much came down to Sheffield vs. Jeff Larish, a power hitting left handed 1B that can also play 3B if necessary. Sheffield's only a DH. That really clogged up the lineup. Now they can use the DH on guys like Guillen, Magglio, Cabrera, Thames, and Larish. Those guys will collectively produce more than Sheffield would.

Sox
03-31-2009, 11:58 AM
Let the fire sale begin for the Tigers......:scratch::redneck

johnnyg83
03-31-2009, 12:08 PM
Not to sound too dripping with schadenfreude ... but I hope he's stuck on 499 forever.

NLaloosh
03-31-2009, 12:09 PM
He is done. No one will sign him.

I would think not but you never know.

I think it would be hilarious to see some team play Bonds, Thomas and Sheffield every day. I would love to watch that.

Banix12
03-31-2009, 01:18 PM
He is done. No one will sign him.

I have to think someone would sign him if only for the "he hit his 500th home run" celebration.

Toronto? Baltimore?

Some team will probably sign him and give him a shot but I bet he'll be released and gone for good by June

ChiSoxFan81
03-31-2009, 01:20 PM
I have to think someone would sign him if only for the "he hit his 500th home run" celebration.

Toronto? Baltimore?

Some team will probably sign him and give him a shot but I bet he'll be released and gone for good by June

He's Mr. 3000

sullythered
03-31-2009, 01:32 PM
He'll be a Twin on opening day.
Ooh, I hope so. He stinks.

Frontman
03-31-2009, 01:34 PM
I would think not but you never know.

I think it would be hilarious to see some team play Bonds, Thomas and Sheffield every day. I would love to watch that.

Frank might drive me nuts; but I wouldn't wish that on him at all.

Anyone want to take the over/under on how long it will take Sheffield to accuse the Tigers organization of racism? He threw Torre under the bus as soon as he could when he went to Detroit.

johnnyg83
03-31-2009, 01:57 PM
mlb.com mentioning the Phillies as a possibility.

Jimmy Piersall
03-31-2009, 01:58 PM
He's our CF !:cower:

Nellie_Fox
03-31-2009, 03:12 PM
Whoever signs him will only have to pay league minimum, with Detroit paying the rest. Someone will bite.

areilly
03-31-2009, 03:28 PM
mlb.com mentioning the Phillies as a possibility.

I would be shocked beyond belief if that happened - not just the Phils, but really any National League team, let alone a contender.

Frontman
03-31-2009, 03:29 PM
I would be shocked beyond belief if that happened - not just the Phils, but really any National League team, let alone a contender.

+1. Why would the Phillies, who are the defending world champs; worry about picking up a has-been to hit one home run? The Phillies won't be hurting as far as attendance this season.

Banix12
03-31-2009, 03:59 PM
Actually thinking about it, I can't really imagine a large amount of fans getting excited to see sheffield hit homerun 500. It's not like he's ever really been much of a fan favorite. The only team he played for that had fans that seemed to like him was the florida marlins and they don't honestly have many fans.

And yes a team can sign him for the league minimum contract, but then again the league minimum contract is $400,000 dollars. Yeah, not a lot of money in the terms of what the detroit tigers owe him but still a pretty large sum of money in this economic climate for a past his prime slugger.

Thinking about it more if he still wants to play my guess is he has to go the Ricky Henderson/Jose Canseco route and go get a job in the independant leagues and hope some major league team has a need at DH midseason.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
03-31-2009, 04:14 PM
Actually thinking about it, I can't really imagine a large amount of fans getting excited to see sheffield hit homerun 500. It's not like he's ever really been much of a fan favorite. The only team he played for that had fans that seemed to like him was the florida marlins and they don't honestly have many fans.

I think he was pretty popular in Atlanta, too. I remember watching the Cubs/Braves NLDS in '03, and the Braves had a group of fans with chef hats and a big banner that said "Sheff's Chefs".

I thought it was cute. :tongue:

Oblong
03-31-2009, 04:34 PM
I think he was pretty popular in Atlanta, too. I remember watching the Cubs/Braves NLDS in '03, and the Braves had a group of fans with chef hats and a big banner that said "Sheff's Chefs".

I thought it was cute. :tongue:

Some younger fans next to me would bring the Swedish Chef doll and sing the song when he'd come to bat.

"Bork bork bork"

Frontman
03-31-2009, 05:27 PM
Some younger fans next to me would bring the Swedish Chef doll and sing the song when he'd come to bat.

"Bork bork bork"

So THAT was the rythym that he shook his bat to...

NLaloosh
03-31-2009, 07:24 PM
He's our CF !:cower:

Ok. That poses an interesting question. Which outfield would be better overall for the White Sox ?

A. Q- LF, Wise- CF and Dye- RF

B. Sheffield- LF, Q- CF, Dye- RF

sox1970
03-31-2009, 07:28 PM
Ok. That poses an interesting question. Which outfield would be better overall for the White Sox ?

A. Q- LF, Wise- CF and Dye- RF

B. Sheffield- LF, Q- CF, Dye- RF

If you have B, you lose 95 games.

Rocky Soprano
03-31-2009, 07:37 PM
Ok. That poses an interesting question. Which outfield would be better overall for the White Sox ?

A. Q- LF, Wise- CF and Dye- RF

B. Sheffield- LF, Q- CF, Dye- RF

B, if you don't give a crap about defense.

Frater Perdurabo
03-31-2009, 08:28 PM
B, if you don't give a crap about defense.

Like Ozzie?

Seriously, I think the Sox should take a look at Sheffield. You can never have enough corner OF/DH types.

Also, I'm surprised no one has yet said,

Coop'll fix him.

:bandance:

Brian26
03-31-2009, 09:49 PM
I think he was pretty popular in Atlanta, too. I remember watching the Cubs/Braves NLDS in '03, and the Braves had a group of fans with chef hats and a big banner that said "Sheff's Chefs".

I thought it was cute. :tongue:

Ironically, that was the series that he and Chipper Jones decided to mail-it-in and let the Cubs walk into the NLCS. Chipper batted .167 and "Sheff" batted .143. Bums must have had a golf-trip planned.

Brian26
03-31-2009, 09:51 PM
Seriously, I think the Sox should take a look at Sheffield. You can never have enough corner OF/DH types.

If there's anything worse than adding a complete jackass to a team's roster, it's adding a washed-up complete jackass. At least Albert Belle put up some numbers while he was here.

Frater Perdurabo
04-01-2009, 07:19 PM
If there's anything worse than adding a complete jackass to a team's roster, it's adding a washed-up complete jackass. At least Albert Belle put up some numbers while he was here.

I do hope you know that I was completely kidding.

sox2000divchamps
04-01-2009, 07:37 PM
Ok. That poses an interesting question. Which outfield would be better overall for the White Sox ?

A. Q- LF, Wise- CF and Dye- RF

B. Sheffield- LF, Q- CF, Dye- RF

A! I dont want some loser on our team. He is not a very nice person.

sox2000divchamps
04-01-2009, 07:40 PM
I do hope you know that I was completely kidding.

I dont care if you were kidding, you're statment was correct, he is a washed up jackass. He also is a ******* to match.

Frater Perdurabo
04-01-2009, 07:57 PM
I dont care if you were kidding, you're statment was correct, he is a washed up jackass. He also is a ******* to match.

I was kidding in the statement where I wrote, "you can never have enough corner OF/DH types."

Daver
04-01-2009, 08:06 PM
I was kidding in the statement where I wrote, "you can never have enough corner OF/DH types."

It's a true statement that the White Sox adhere to, Jerry Owens is still in the organization.

Frater Perdurabo
04-01-2009, 08:19 PM
It's a true statement that the White Sox adhere to, Jerry Owens is still in the organization.

They are hoping Owens will develop 40-HR power. He needs to work more with Greg Walker on that.

sox2000divchamps
04-01-2009, 08:27 PM
I was kidding in the statement where I wrote, "you can never have enough corner OF/DH types."

Oh, ok. Good. I think the vast majority agrees that he is a washed up jackass.

Oblong
04-01-2009, 08:52 PM
What's comforting is that #3 will be put back where it belongs - in pseudo retirement!

Can't believe he had the nerve to ask Tram if he could wear it. Of course Alan won't say no. He's too classy.

PKalltheway
04-02-2009, 12:56 AM
The Reds seem to have interest in Sheffield.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090401&content_id=4105880&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Frontman
04-02-2009, 09:38 AM
The Reds seem to have interest in Sheffield.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090401&content_id=4105880&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Dusty Baker and Garry Sheffield...a match made in Heaven.

FloridaTigers
04-02-2009, 01:30 PM
What's comforting is that #3 will be put back where it belongs - in pseudo retirement!

Can't believe he had the nerve to ask Tram if he could wear it. Of course Alan won't say no. He's too classy.

How much longer until the organization finally officially retires #3? And if they do that, they gotta retire #1 along with it.

Oblong
04-02-2009, 02:34 PM
I'm not sure it'll ever be done. The standard so far with 6 (Kaline), 2 (Gehringer), 5 (Greenberg), 16 (Newhouser) has been HOF induction. And Greenberg/Gehringer didn't get theirs retired until 1983 (I was there as a 10 year old). Newhouser's was retired in the mid 90s. Willie Horton (23) was a unique case because he was from Detroit and has a very special place to a lot of people from that time period.

1, 3, 11 (Sparky), and 47 (Morris) are out of circulation.

PKalltheway
04-02-2009, 07:54 PM
I'm not sure it'll ever be done. The standard so far with 6 (Kaline), 2 (Gehringer), 5 (Greenberg), 16 (Newhouser) has been HOF induction. And Greenberg/Gehringer didn't get theirs retired until 1983 (I was there as a 10 year old). Newhouser's was retired in the mid 90s. Willie Horton (23) was a unique case because he was from Detroit and has a very special place to a lot of people from that time period.

1, 3, 11 (Sparky), and 47 (Morris) are out of circulation.
Sparky's in the Hall of Fame though. He didn't win 2 titles there like he did in Cincy, but he did win one in Detroit with a remarkable 1984 team, and he did manage there for 16 years. :dunno:

Do you know why it hasn't been retired? I'm not being snide, I am really curious.

Oblong
04-02-2009, 08:48 PM
Nothing's been said on the record but there's bad blood between the Ilitch Family and Sparky. When they bought the team in August 1992 I guess the following off season they let a lot of office workers go and that rubbed Sparky the wrong way. Secretaries, elevator operators, etc. One anecdote I heard is some lady who had been there for decades was escorted out by security and Sparky saw it happen. They also unceremoniously fired longtime GM/Executive Jim Campbell. He ran the Tigers from the 50s through the 80s and they dumped him like he was an intern. He and Sparky were close.

Then during the whole replacement player saga in 1995 he refused to manage them. Some think he was trying to get fired.

He also went into the HOF with a Red logo on his cap. I don't think that really did anything to make the Ilitchs mad but it sort of gave them cover to deny retiring Sparky's number. I personally don't hold that against him. But all along he said he'd go in as a Tiger because Cincy fired him. He specifically said he would. Then as the date approached he was on a talk show and writer Joe Falls asked him about it, in a rhetorical way. Sparky was diplomatic and didn't commit. That's when I knew.

In 2000 after Comerica opened they had Sparky Day and it was a joke. Hardly any marketing about it. Like 10000 people in stands. Nobody of note from the organization was there. It was embarassing.

I believe the recently departed George Kell had the same issues with the Ilitchs.

It's a shame because Sparky was the face of the franchise during a key glory period. He did a ton of charitable work in the city. He practically owned the area. The only thing at Comerica Park with his name or picture on it is a picture of him from the side hugging one of his charity kids.

There's a wall out in the outfield with Tiger hall of famers and he's not up there either.

PKalltheway
04-02-2009, 09:17 PM
Nothing's been said on the record but there's bad blood between the Ilitch Family and Sparky. When they bought the team in August 1992 I guess the following off season they let a lot of office workers go and that rubbed Sparky the wrong way. Secretaries, elevator operators, etc. One anecdote I heard is some lady who had been there for decades was escorted out by security and Sparky saw it happen. They also unceremoniously fired longtime GM/Executive Jim Campbell. He ran the Tigers from the 50s through the 80s and they dumped him like he was an intern. He and Sparky were close.

Then during the whole replacement player saga in 1995 he refused to manage them. Some think he was trying to get fired.

He also went into the HOF with a Red logo on his cap. I don't think that really did anything to make the Ilitchs mad but it sort of gave them cover to deny retiring Sparky's number. I personally don't hold that against him. But all along he said he'd go in as a Tiger because Cincy fired him. He specifically said he would. Then as the date approached he was on a talk show and writer Joe Falls asked him about it, in a rhetorical way. Sparky was diplomatic and didn't commit. That's when I knew.

In 2000 after Comerica opened they had Sparky Day and it was a joke. Hardly any marketing about it. Like 10000 people in stands. Nobody of note from the organization was there. It was embarassing.

I believe the recently departed George Kell had the same issues with the Ilitchs.

It's a shame because Sparky was the face of the franchise during a key glory period. He did a ton of charitable work in the city. He practically owned the area. The only thing at Comerica Park with his name or picture on it is a picture of him from the side hugging one of his charity kids.

There's a wall out in the outfield with Tiger hall of famers and he's not up there either.
Wow....that really is a damn shame. Hopefully he'll have his number retired there sometime soon. I know here in Cincy, the Reds had issues with Frank Robinson for years (because of arguably the worst trade in baseball history), and he ended up going in the hall with the Orioles instead. Thankfully, they've kissed and made up in recent years. Hopefully the Tigers will do the same with Sparky.

Sockinchisox
04-03-2009, 11:30 AM
Sheff is close to signing with the Mets, who plan to give him "significant" playing time.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2009/04/mets_close_to_s.html
(http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2009/04/mets_close_to_s.html)

mjmcend
04-03-2009, 05:18 PM
Sheff is close to signing with the Mets, who plan to give him "significant" playing time.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2009/04/mets_close_to_s.html
(http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2009/04/mets_close_to_s.html)


And it is official:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090403&content_id=4116828&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb