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soxinem1
02-23-2009, 11:28 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/11412768

Talk about reaching a new low.

DSpivack
02-23-2009, 11:32 AM
I thought the Sox scandal with this was bad a few months ago, but this story is wilder.

PKalltheway
02-23-2009, 01:48 PM
The Nationals need to fire this clown Bowden, and hire a GM who actually has a clue. It's practically a running joke here in Cincinnati that the Nationals are the Reds' minor league affiliate because Bowden keeps picking up former Reds players. Austin Kearns, Dimitri Young, Felipe Lopez, Javier Valentin, Adam Dunn, D'Angelo Jiminez, Jose Guillen, Ryan Wagner, Wily Mo Pena, Bret Boone, Aaron Boone, Corey Patterson, and Ramon Ortiz are just a few of the former Reds players that either used to be with the Nats, or are currently with them now. Considering how bad the Reds have been over the course of the last 8 years, it should be no suprise that the Nats are worse if they're predominantly picking up ex-Reds players...

FedEx227
02-23-2009, 01:53 PM
I thought the Sox scandal with this was bad a few months ago, but this story is wilder.

Not a chance. The Wilder situation has some ridiculous details skimming bonuses is one thing, but being a pseduo-agent to overpriced misidentified latin players and sending your money to an off-shore account to set up a real estate and nightclub business is on a WHOLE new level.

DSpivack
02-23-2009, 01:58 PM
Not a chance. The Wilder situation has some ridiculous details skimming bonuses is one thing, but being a pseduo-agent to overpriced misidentified latin players and sending your money to an off-shore account to set up a real estate and nightclub business is on a WHOLE new level.

That post was a poor attempt at a joke. :tongue:

FedEx227
02-23-2009, 01:59 PM
I did see that, but just clarifying to people the scope of how ridiculous the Wilder story was.

Also hilarious how pathetic reporters are in this city that it pretty much went away, tagged as a non-story.

DSpivack
02-23-2009, 02:00 PM
I did see that, but just clarifying to people the scope of how ridiculous the Wilder story was.

Also hilarious how pathetic reporters are in this city that it pretty much went away, tagged as a non-story.

The Bowden thing isn't a big story here, but then again, the Nats never are.

khan
02-23-2009, 02:10 PM
I saw this story on Yahoo, and over there, the bigger issue was a signee that falsified his D.O.B. to make him look younger.

In any case, this is further evidence as to why MLB needs to institute an international amateur draft.

asindc
02-23-2009, 02:33 PM
The Nationals need to fire this clown Bowden, and hire a GM who actually has a clue. It's practically a running joke here in Cincinnati that the Nationals are the Reds' minor league affiliate because Bowden keeps picking up former Reds players. Austin Kearns, Dimitri Young, Felipe Lopez, Javier Valentin, Adam Dunn, D'Angelo Jiminez, Jose Guillen, Ryan Wagner, Wily Mo Pena, Bret Boone, Aaron Boone, Corey Patterson, and Ramon Ortiz are just a few of the former Reds players that either used to be with the Nats, or are currently with them now. Considering how bad the Reds have been over the course of the last 8 years, it should be no suprise that the Nats are worse if they're predominantly picking up ex-Reds players...

It's a running (sad) joke here as well. Bowden has been getting roasted on sports talk radio here lately after the Imposter Player fiasco, and has never been well liked by the fans. God only knows why the ownership has kept him on this long. Stan Kasten is his "boss," but everyone knows that the Lerners won't let him fire Bowden. I wonder if this will finally do it, though.

Fenway
02-24-2009, 12:18 AM
Not a chance. The Wilder situation has some ridiculous details skimming bonuses is one thing, but being a pseduo-agent to overpriced misidentified latin players and sending your money to an off-shore account to set up a real estate and nightclub business is on a WHOLE new level.

NY Times is on the Wilder story now. Apparently he opened a very popular gay nightclub in Phoenix and yet closed it saying he lost 500K. He now says in court he is making 7.50 an hour. For some reason the Chicago papers don't want to touch the story.

The Boston Globe is looking at the Red Sox operation in the DR as well. Somebody at Fenway had to know what was going on there.

The Red Sox were on the verge of hiring Wilder to replace Theo until it became apparent that Epstein would return.

DumpJerry
02-24-2009, 06:36 AM
I did see that, but just clarifying to people the scope of how ridiculous the Wilder story was.

Also hilarious how pathetic reporters are in this city that it pretty much went away, tagged as a non-story.
There were two stories in the Chicago Tribune yesterday (Monday) about the Wilder situation and the Dominican Republic situation in general. They were in the news section and not the sports section.

Fenway
02-24-2009, 08:53 AM
There were two stories in the Chicago Tribune yesterday (Monday) about the Wilder situation and the Dominican Republic situation in general. They were in the news section and not the sports section.

I was in the DR a few years ago as were shooting a story on the Red Sox complex. Until you visit you have no idea on just how important baseball is to the entire country. Baseball brings the big bucks in as there is little else. The most amazing part of the experience is how the country shares the island with one of the most miserable countries on earth while the DR is a cheerful place while poor.

I guess this whole mess is another version of pay to play

FedEx227
02-24-2009, 10:26 AM
There were two stories in the Chicago Tribune yesterday (Monday) about the Wilder situation and the Dominican Republic situation in general. They were in the news section and not the sports section.

Ah okay, cool I'll check them out. I was only looking in the sports to see if they had anything about it.

Lip Man 1
02-24-2009, 10:43 AM
Here is the Wilder story. Very, very bizarre.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-dominican_siderfeb23,0,489995.story

Lip

DSpivack
02-25-2009, 05:59 PM
Bye Bye Bowden?

http://www.nbcwashington.com/sports/baseball/Bye-Bye-Bowden.html

PKalltheway
02-26-2009, 06:54 PM
The jury is still out as to what will become of Bowden. As for his special assistant Jose Rijo, he gone.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3938004

sox1970
03-01-2009, 09:55 AM
Bowden resigned.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3943660

asindc
03-01-2009, 10:17 AM
Bowden resigned.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3943660

Long overdue.

PKalltheway
03-01-2009, 12:23 PM
Long overdue.
Yes indeed. Now the Nats can attempt to begin their climb to respectability, since hopefully they'll get a GM who has a clue.

Shoeless_Jeff
03-03-2009, 01:35 AM
I honestly hope the Nats get their act together and become a decent team someday. Getting rid of Bowden is a good start. That guy is beyond incompetent. I'd like to see them win a WS to get closer to my dream of seeing every expansion team win a WS before that team from the North Side.

DSpivack
03-09-2009, 06:16 PM
Washington Post had a good in-depth article on the Nationals and the Dominican Republic, and the writer had an online chat about it today:

Article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/08/AR2009030801913.html

Discussion:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2009/03/06/DI2009030602912.html