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sbsox
01-20-2009, 10:55 PM
A friend of mine placed a bet for me at Caesars Palace last week for the White Sox to win the World Series at 15:1. She forgot to get me some of the other teams odds. She thought the Cubs were 8:1. Anybody seen any Vegas odds for 2009?

whitesox901
01-20-2009, 10:56 PM
15:1, I dont know alot about Vegas Stats like that, but I'm going to just assume thats good.

october23sp
01-20-2009, 11:00 PM
January 20th:scratch:

jabrch
01-20-2009, 11:01 PM
I'll be there next week - so I'll bring home a sheet. That said, I wouldn't put one penny on this team at 15:1.

Noneck
01-20-2009, 11:05 PM
I don't know Vegas world series odds yet, but at bodog Det 20-1, Clev 25-1, Sox 25-1, Minn 25-1, KC 150-1.

october23sp
01-20-2009, 11:06 PM
I don't know Vegas world series odds yet, but at bodog Det 20-1, Clev 25-1, Sox 25-1, Minn 25-1, KC 150-1.

The way things have been going the Royals will make the world series.

...
01-20-2009, 11:06 PM
January 20th:scratch:

That's today's date.

Noneck
01-20-2009, 11:08 PM
The way things have been going the Royals will make the world series.

If the odds are right when division odds come out, they may be worth a wager. Just to get to series may be a very tough road.

october23sp
01-20-2009, 11:08 PM
That's today's date.

Yep. And a bit early to be making odds on the WS IMO.

dakuda
01-20-2009, 11:28 PM
I went to Vegas last month, and hoped that they would have odds so that I could place a small bet. Darn people didn't have baseball odds. I just figured that there were always odds. Oh well.

Konerko05
01-21-2009, 02:01 AM
Yep. And a bit early to be making odds on the WS IMO.

Ok. Call Vegas and tell to hold off on all bets until we are sure the White Sox are not signing another starting pitcher.

WhiteSoxFan84
01-21-2009, 03:12 AM
Yep. And a bit early to be making odds on the WS IMO.

Eh, not really. Usually, all the major FAs have signed and the biggest trades have been made by now. The most significant free agents left are middle of the rotation starters (Sheets, Perez, Garland) and offensive players that may end up being hit or miss (Dunn, Abreu, etc.).

I see some value in...
Phillies 11/1 - defending champs!
Mets 7/1 - this just maybe their year...
Red Sox 7.5/1 - all the pressure is on the yanks not to fail. perfect season for the red sox to whack'em and take the AL.
Angels 11/1 - great manager. balanced lineup. solid bullpen. good rotation.
Cubs 7/1 - just. in. case.
Rays 12/1 - the team only got better since last year.

That's 6 solid teams (3 NL, 3 AL) that pay out at least 7/1. If I put $100 on all of them, worst case scenario is I lose the $600. But more than likely, one of these 6 will win it and I will profit anywhere from $100-$600. Good investment?


And BTW, based on Bodog's World Series odds, we are projected to finish 2nd (lol) in the AL Central...
1) Tigers 20/1
t-2) White Sox 25/1
t-2) Twins 25/1
t-2) Indians 25/1
5) Royals 150/1

:redneck

oeo
01-21-2009, 10:55 AM
Phillies 11/1 - defending champs!
Mets 7/1 - this just maybe their year...
Red Sox 7.5/1 - all the pressure is on the yanks not to fail. perfect season for the red sox to whack'em and take the AL.
Angels 11/1 - great manager. balanced lineup. solid bullpen. good rotation.
Cubs 7/1 - just. in. case.
Rays 12/1 - the team only got better since last year.

Phillies- so what? Defending champs doesn't mean a thing. They had a lot of things come together for them last year.
Mets- you could say that about any team.
Red Sox- still think they win the East. Yankees will have injury problems
Angels- Not the same team as last year; wouldn't put my money on them.
Cubs- :roflmao:
Rays- just an educated hunch, but their bullpen will not be as good, which means the Rays will not be as good.

As much as I hate to say it, I think we're going to see Cleveland in the World Series. They had a year in which they battled injuries in 2008, and are coming back with a stronger team.

Eddo144
01-21-2009, 11:07 AM
As much as I hate to say it, I think we're going to see Cleveland in the World Series. They had a year in which they battled injuries in 2008, and are coming back with a stronger team.
I agree. That 25-1 is very appealing...

ChiSoxFan81
01-21-2009, 11:07 AM
As much as I hate to say it, I think we're going to see Cleveland in the World Series. They had a year in which they battled injuries in 2008, and are coming back with a stronger team.

Well, they did sign the savior. Kerry Wood will break the Indians' drought!!!(Just pretend that's in teal, my browser isn't letting me do it & I'm no good with html)

NLaloosh
01-21-2009, 11:22 AM
With Obama in office the White Sox should be even money. Take that bet.

RedHeadPaleHoser
01-21-2009, 11:43 AM
January 20th:scratch:

I was there last weekend - the sports book at the Flamingo, NY NY and the Mirage didn't have anything for baseball yet, so I didn't bother to check Caesar's. I asked one of the guys at Flamingo, and he said the lines don't usually come out until after the SB. So...missed my chance to make the bet.

kittle42
01-21-2009, 12:46 PM
I'll be there tonight, and will update the thread.

Scottiehaswheels
01-21-2009, 12:52 PM
I honestly like the Royals for the Central at 150-1

FedEx227
01-21-2009, 12:53 PM
I agree. That 25-1 is very appealing...

That's one thats definitely worth it. The Indians have a damn good lineup right now, their rotation has a lot of question marks though mainly will Carmona come back to what he was, will Lee be able to keep it going and is Aaron Laffey really a number 3? At 25-1, though, that's a damn good bet.

Jim Shorts
01-21-2009, 01:13 PM
A friend of mine placed a bet for me at Caesars Palace last week for the White Sox to win the World Series at 15:1. She forgot to get me some of the other teams odds. She thought the Cubs were 8:1. Anybody seen any Vegas odds for 2009?

A friend of mine did the same thing for me. Only he bought the ticket on 1/2/09 and I got 18/1 odds. Caesars as well.

Noneck
01-21-2009, 02:17 PM
I honestly like the Royals for the Central at 150-1

The 150-1 is for the World series, the division odds are not out but I am thinking it will be in the 20-25-1 range.

Eddo144
01-21-2009, 02:27 PM
The 150-1 is for the World series, the division odds are not out but I am thinking it will be in the 20-25-1 range.
The Royals are at 10-1 for the division according to this (http://vegaswatch.net/2009/01/early-mlb-divisional-odds.html). The other four AL central teams are all at 2.75-1 (or 11-4).

Noneck
01-21-2009, 02:37 PM
The Royals are at 10-1 for the division according to this (http://vegaswatch.net/2009/01/early-mlb-divisional-odds.html). The other four AL central teams are all at 2.75-1 (or 11-4).

Thanks, 10-1 seems low for a team 150-1 for series. I'll pass at 10-1.

Kilroy
01-21-2009, 03:24 PM
A friend of mine placed a bet for me at Caesars Palace last week for the White Sox to win the World Series at 15:1. She forgot to get me some of the other teams odds. She thought the Cubs were 8:1. Anybody seen any Vegas odds for 2009?

That's the odds we bet them at in 2005. Collecting was SWEET!!!

BadBobbyJenks
01-21-2009, 03:55 PM
Here it is as of 1/13:

New York Yankees 11/4
Chicago Cubs 11/2
Boston Red Sox 15/2
Philadelphia Phillies 17/2
Los Angeles Dodgers 10/1
New York Mets 10/1
Tampa Bay Rays 12/1
Los Angeles Angels 13/1
Arizona Diamondbacks 14/1
St. Louis Cardinals 18/1
Minnesota Twins 20/1
Cleveland Indians 22/1
Chicago White Sox 25/1
Detroit Tigers 26/1
Milwaukee Brewers 30/1
Atlanta Braves 35/1
Oakland Athletics 35/1
Colorado Rockies 38/1
Florida Marlins 40/1
Houston Astros 40/1
San Francisco Giants 50/1
Toronto Blue Jays 60/1
Texas Rangers 70/1
Cincinnati Reds 80/1
Baltimore Orioles 100/1
Kansas City Royals 100/1
Washington Nationals 100/1
Seattle Mariners 100/1
San Diego Padres 100/1
Pittsburgh Pirates 150/1

jabrch
01-21-2009, 04:01 PM
Boston Red Sox 15/2
Los Angeles Angels 13/1
Atlanta Braves 35/1
San Francisco Giants 50/1
Texas Rangers 70/1


These are the only ones attractive to me. 7.5/1 for Boston is nice. LAA or Texas should win the West - and thus have a shot. Same for LAD and SFG. The Braves at 35:1 look like a good value.

chisoxfanatic
01-21-2009, 04:22 PM
Doesn't Vegas ever learn from the Cubs' constant failures in October? And, they're actually a weaker team now than last year. I can't believe their odds are that high.

BadBobbyJenks
01-21-2009, 04:47 PM
Doesn't Vegas ever learn from the Cubs' constant failures in October? And, they're actually a weaker team now than last year. I can't believe their odds are that high.

Why risk having to pay out a big number when people are going to bet them anyway? Future bets are all about hype anyway.

Sam Spade
01-21-2009, 05:07 PM
Doesn't Vegas ever learn from the Cubs' constant failures in October? And, they're actually a weaker team now than last year. I can't believe their odds are that high.
It more about how many people will take the bet than anything else. Dumb ass cubs fans are going to shell out money at those odds, so there they are.

UofCSoxFan
01-22-2009, 02:32 PM
Keep in mind that the odds are meant to balance betting. The house would love an equal amount on every team and just make money off the rake. The fact that the Cubs are 7 to 1 doesn't mean that vegas thinks there's a 1/8 chance the Cubs will win it. It's a combination of them knowing the Cubs have a chance to win it at probly 1/10 to 1/20 and that there are a ton of Cub fans out there that want to put money on their team (so the create lower odds to discourage action).

1908<2005
01-22-2009, 11:00 PM
The Cubs were like 8 to 1 in 2006.

WhiteSoxFan84
01-23-2009, 11:13 AM
The Indians have no pitching. Where the hell is this Tribe love coming from? One of you is HOPING Carmona is back to his "normal" self. Maybe 2007 was a fluke? Look at the years before and after 2007, ERA over 5.00. And the same can be said about Lee in 2008. Regardless, even if those two are good, who makes up the rest of their rotaiton? Westbrook, Pavano, Laffey, Zach Jackson, and/or Sowers? They MIGHT have the 4th best rotation in the Central. Even that is questionable.