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itsnotrequired
01-16-2009, 11:44 AM
All times Eastern (east coast bias)

Sunday, February 15
3:00 PM - All-Time Games - 5/2/02, Mariners at Sox (Mike Cameron hits four home runs)

Monday, February 16
5:30 AM - All-Time Games - 5/2/02, Mariners at Sox

Wednesday, February 18
12:30 AM - World Series Highlights - 1959
4:30 AM - World Series Highlights - 1959
11:30 AM - World Series Highlights - 1959
2:00 PM - All-Time Games - 5/2/02, Mariners at Sox

Saturday, February 22
9:00 PM - All-Time Games - 4/10/81, Sox at Red Sox (Fisk hits go-ahead home run in 8th, first game back at Fenway after joining Sox)

Saturday, March 21
8:00 PM - 2009 White Sox team analysis

Sunday, March 22
1:30 AM - 2009 White Sox team analysis
7:00 AM - 2009 White Sox team analysis
9:30 AM - 2009 White Sox team analysis
12:00 PM - 2009 White Sox team analysis

hi im skot
01-16-2009, 11:53 AM
Thanks, inr. You shall be spared when the rapture commences.

itsnotrequired
01-16-2009, 11:54 AM
Thanks, inr. You shall be spared when the rapture commences.

i decide who is spared and who is cast into the flame.

event i'm most looking forward to? that fisk game.

CashMan
01-16-2009, 12:04 PM
This MLB Network isn't too shabby. I enjoy Barry Larkin and Harold Reynolds.

doublem23
01-16-2009, 12:09 PM
MODS: Perhaps this could be stickied and updated as the season progresses? Move thread to Clubhouse?

I agree.

mantis1212
01-16-2009, 12:32 PM
Are these times Central?

itsnotrequired
01-16-2009, 12:38 PM
Are these times Central?

Eastern.

DumpJerry
01-16-2009, 12:39 PM
Are these times Central?
Eastern. Tonight's WS highlights are on at 7:00 p.m. in Chicago. I have my Tivo set already.

itsnotrequired
01-16-2009, 12:41 PM
i fixed the original post to show eastern.

thomas35forever
01-16-2009, 12:41 PM
You forgot that the '05 World Series highlights will also be playing midnight Eastern time.

itsnotrequired
01-16-2009, 12:42 PM
You forgot that the '05 World Series highlights will also be playing midnight Eastern time.

fixed!

DumpJerry
01-16-2009, 12:48 PM
i fixed the original post to show eastern.
Darn East Coast bias.:angry::angry::angry:

doublem23
01-16-2009, 12:50 PM
They've got a couple of White Sox videos up on their homepage right now (mlb.com/network)... Hot Stove Preview with Reynolds, Larkin, etc. and a quick interview with Ozzie Guillen.

102605
01-16-2009, 12:57 PM
I wish I had the HD version of this channel.

They better add it soon.

doublem23
01-16-2009, 02:09 PM
I wish I had the HD version of this channel.

They better add it soon.

I just found it down here... Got to watch a Pirate-Cub game from 1991 during lunch, and strangely... was mesmerized. Just 1 question, I wonder why Harry Caray wasn't calling the game. It was Steve Stone and what sounded like Chip Caray. :dunno:

Nellie_Fox
01-16-2009, 02:14 PM
I wish I had the HD version of this channel.

They better add it soon.The picture quality is, however, amazingly good for a non-HD channel. Some of my digital non-HD channels have so much compression they almost look like YouTube videos.

soulfly
01-17-2009, 11:05 AM
The picture quality is, however, amazingly good for a non-HD channel. Some of my digital non-HD channels have so much compression they almost look like YouTube videos.

I thought a few days before the launch I heard on the mlb channel that everything was shot in HD. It just wasn't being broadcast in HD. Probably because the cable or dish companies didn't want to pick it up the second channel yet? But it still does look rather nice for being 480.

SOX ADDICT '73
01-17-2009, 11:23 AM
So far I've missed every airing of the 2005 WS Highlights except for tomorrow morning.

To the people who have watched it already, is this just the Official World Series DVD that MLB put out, or a new program entirely? I don't want to waste time setting my DVR to record something I already have in my DVD collection.

itsnotrequired
01-17-2009, 11:32 AM
I thought a few days before the launch I heard on the mlb channel that everything was shot in HD. It just wasn't being broadcast in HD. Probably because the cable or dish companies didn't want to pick it up the second channel yet? But it still does look rather nice for being 480.

directv is broadcasting the hd feed right now. some cable markets are as well. the hd signal is available to the cable companies so it is up to them to make it happen.

So far I've missed every airing of the 2005 WS Highlights except for tomorrow morning.

To the people who have watched it already, is this just the Official World Series DVD that MLB put out, or a new program entirely? I don't want to waste time setting my DVR to record something I already have in my DVD collection.

yes, it is just the official dvd from 2005. nothing new.

SOX ADDICT '73
01-17-2009, 11:40 AM
yes, it is just the official dvd from 2005. nothing new.
Thanks, that's what I figured :(:.

I won't bother recording it, though if I'm home when it's on, I'm sure I'll watch it (like when one of your favorite movies comes on TNT, you leave it on even if the DVD is sitting five feet away on a shelf).

HawkDJ
01-17-2009, 12:17 PM
Looking forward to seeing Rauch and Parque get torched.

Check out the lineup from that game:
Lofton, Durham, Thomas, Ordonez, Graffanino, Konerko, Valentin, Lee, Johnson, Clayton

PaleHoser
01-17-2009, 12:38 PM
Got to watch a Pirate-Cub game from 1991 during lunch, and strangely... was mesmerized. Just 1 question, I wonder why Harry Caray wasn't calling the game. It was Steve Stone and what sounded like Chip Caray. :dunno:

Harry Caray called that game except when Thom Brennaman called the middle three innings. Loved the shot of Brennaman in the booth - he had very big hair.

Leave it to the Cubs to score five in the top of the 11th and give up six in the bottom half (box score here (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/PIT/PIT199104210.shtml)) to blow the game, while only getting one out to boot. You could hear the fear in Harry's voice when the Pirates put the first two men on in the 11th. Priceless...

I'm looking forward to that Fisk game myself. I hope that MLB gets that posted on iTunes for download. I'll be first in line for that.

Brian26
01-18-2009, 02:00 PM
i decide who is spared and who is cast into the flame.

event i'm most looking forward to? that fisk game.

Me too. They played that game on ESPN Classic about four years ago, but that was before we had Directv and DVR. This will be one I'm going to record and keep in the permanent collection. It was just neat to hear Harry and Jimmy doing the call and seeing the old Sox pajama uniforms again.

Brian26
01-18-2009, 02:02 PM
Check out the lineup from that game:
Lofton, Durham, Thomas, Ordonez, Graffanino, Konerko, Valentin, Lee, Johnson, Clayton

Looks like a 10-man softball lineup. Valetin must have been playing short-CF that game. :redneck

october23sp
01-20-2009, 10:30 PM
Late on Friday Night my friend who is a diehard Tigers fan flipped it to MLB network and it was just at the Podsednik home run part and he told me to shut up before I said anything about that being the best day of my life.:D:

itsnotrequired
01-24-2009, 03:21 PM
i added the white sox edition of the "30 teams in 30 days" season preview.

sox are the last team to be covered so throw some more fuel on the conspiracy theory fire.

It's Dankerific
01-24-2009, 06:07 PM
i added the white sox edition of the "30 teams in 30 days" season preview.

sox are the last team to be covered so throw some more fuel on the conspiracy theory fire.

Is it Alphabetical?

TheCommander
01-24-2009, 06:51 PM
Is it Alphabetical?

If that was the case,the Yankees would be last.

SoxyStu
01-24-2009, 07:47 PM
ALCS game 5 is also on this upcoming Saturday. I might be blind right now, but I didn't see it on I's list.

itsnotrequired
01-25-2009, 05:36 AM
Is it Alphabetical?

it must be geographical based on where spring training is. the dodgers are second to last.

ALCS game 5 is also on this upcoming Saturday. I might be blind right now, but I didn't see it on I's list.

fixed.

doublem23
02-01-2009, 11:08 AM
Game 2 of the World Series is on right now.

Frankfan4life
02-01-2009, 11:50 AM
While watching these games again, I can't help but wonder if letting Crede go might be a big mistake. He's a true "big game" player.

Lip Man 1
02-01-2009, 11:52 AM
When he can play (which is the entire point....lately with thatback he hasn't been able to)

Lip

Frankfan4life
02-01-2009, 11:56 AM
When he can play (which is the entire point....lately with thatback he hasn't been able to)

LipI hope you're right but his tryouts went well. If he is healthy and the Twins pick him up, we're in big trouble.

I don't want my comments to wish Crede any ill will, it's just that I hope we know for sure that his back is truly messed up and that we're not making another Ordonez-type assumption.

anewman35
02-01-2009, 12:22 PM
I don't want my comments to wish Crede any ill will, it's just that I hope we know for sure that his back is truly messed up and that we're not making another Ordonez-type assumption.

I'd be very happy if things work out like they did after we made a "Ordonez-type assumption" about Ordonez.

doublem23
02-01-2009, 12:29 PM
I hope you're right but his tryouts went well. If he is healthy and the Twins pick him up, we're in big trouble.

I don't want my comments to wish Crede any ill will, it's just that I hope we know for sure that his back is truly messed up and that we're not making another Ordonez-type assumption.

He started 2008 red hot, too... He's still a good player, he just can't take the grind of a 162-game season anymore... Especially 81 on that turf? No chance he makes it to September.

aryzner
02-01-2009, 12:33 PM
I don't get it. I have the DVDs but I'm watching it on TV anyway.

It's like when I hear a song on the radio that I already own. It's cool to hear it on the radio instead of when I play it.

Is anyone else like I am or am I crazy?

VenturaFan23
02-01-2009, 01:09 PM
I don't get it. I have the DVDs but I'm watching it on TV anyway.

It's like when I hear a song on the radio that I already own. It's cool to hear it on the radio instead of when I play it.

Is anyone else like I am or am I crazy?

I said the exact same thing to my fiancee last night watching Game 1! Now we're watching this and Game 3, going to Puppy Bowl every so often, until the Super Bowl.

Frankfan4life
02-01-2009, 01:12 PM
He started 2008 red hot, too... He's still a good player, he just can't take the grind of a 162-game season anymore... Especially 81 on that turf? No chance he makes it to September.Good point. The artificial surface in the Twinkeedome would be murder on his back.

doublem23
02-01-2009, 01:42 PM
Is anyone else like I am or am I crazy?

Ha, not only that, but Ms. Doub and I were watching while we cleaned and each time something went good for Houston, I'd say "Damn," or when something went good for the Sox, I'd give a "good job, good job"

She looked at me like I was crazy.

getonbckthr
02-01-2009, 01:46 PM
Ha, not only that, but Ms. Doub and I were watching while we cleaned and each time something went good for Houston, I'd say "Damn," or when something went good for the Sox, I'd give a "good job, good job"

She looked at me like I was crazy.
I too find myself yelling at close pitches. Also screaming at Gooch for getting picked off and the fact we had Everett stealing 2nd in the 7th inning.

getonbckthr
02-01-2009, 01:49 PM
We all know Pods bounced that in there so he could WALK-OFF later.

102605
02-01-2009, 01:56 PM
Hope Pods can come through here. :cool:

sox1970
02-01-2009, 01:58 PM
:winner

(had to be done)

doublem23
02-01-2009, 01:58 PM
:rolling:

I can't lie, my heart just skipped a beat.

You know, I've seen this game probably 10 times now, and I never noticed the Houston fan in the front row behind their dugout who, as everyone else was jumping in joy, just collapsed on the dugout.

Game 3 STARTING NOW... Bring out the coffee, I have a feeling this might take a while.

itsnotrequired
02-01-2009, 02:00 PM
take it to the game thread

/some mod

SoxandtheCityTee
02-01-2009, 02:15 PM
"I don't think that taste is there."

"How do these things happen?"

Never gets old for me.

JermaineDye05
02-01-2009, 03:06 PM
Hey, did the ALCS game 5 start earlier than expected? Because I set a recording for it on my directv and when I got home today and started it from the beginning, it was in the middle of the 3rd inning. Was this just a bug with my directv or did they get the time screwed up?

WhiteSoxJunkie
02-03-2009, 12:33 PM
Ha, not only that, but Ms. Doub and I were watching while we cleaned and each time something went good for Houston, I'd say "Damn," or when something went good for the Sox, I'd give a "good job, good job"

She looked at me like I was crazy.

I'm the same way. Over my Christmas break I watched every playoff game from 05 (which I taped off Comcast SportsNet during their Holiday Celebration in 05). While watching Game 3 vs the Angels, Konerko had a two strike count and took a pitch that was almost strike 3. I went "Oooooh..." and then thought "Why am I oooohing, I know he ends up hitting a home run."

doublem23
02-04-2009, 09:22 PM
Timo Perez is playing LF for the Dominican Republic right now in a Caribbean Series game vs. Mexico.

C'MON, TIMO!

LoveYourSuit
02-04-2009, 09:55 PM
Timo Perez is playing LF for the Dominican Republic right now in a Caribbean Series game vs. Mexico.

C'MON, TIMO!


Adrian Gonzales is the goods!

whitesox901
02-04-2009, 09:56 PM
I hate Dish, I want MLB Network :whiner:

DirtySox
02-04-2009, 09:59 PM
I hate Mediacom. Horrible in all aspects.

Can't wait to switch to an apartment with a deck facing south so I can get DirecTV.

doublem23
02-04-2009, 10:47 PM
Anybody catch the White Sox-themed banner at the stadium in Mexicali? It reads, "El Beisbol con Orgulia" (I think, since since I don't get MLB Network HD, I'm can't clearly make out the words. There's a picture of what looks like Ozzie Guillen crossing his arms (again, hard to tell, but it's someone in a black pullover and black hat crossing his arms) on the left and the White Sox logo on the right.

Can any of our Spanish-speaking members translate?

PS... Exciting game postponed by power outage.

LoveYourSuit
02-04-2009, 10:48 PM
Just saw a stationary advertising billboard at the stadium there in Mexicali with a White Sox logo..... very nice to see.

Nellie_Fox
02-04-2009, 11:55 PM
Anybody catch the White Sox-themed banner at the stadium in Mexicali? It reads, "El Beisbol con Orgulia" (I think, since since I don't get MLB Network HD, I'm can't clearly make out the words. There's a picture of what looks like Ozzie Guillen crossing his arms (again, hard to tell, but it's someone in a black pullover and black hat crossing his arms) on the left and the White Sox logo on the right.It is not just a Sox-themed banner, the Sox paid for it. And it is Ozzie. El Beisbol con Orgullo means baseball with pride.

doublem23
02-05-2009, 12:25 AM
It is not just a Sox-themed banner, the Sox paid for it. And it is Ozzie. El Beisbol con Orgullo means baseball with pride.

Sweet. Nothing like building up that fanbase on the Baja Peninsula. And I think my HS freshman Spanish teacher and Hispanic grandparents would be sick with my pathetic translation skills. :redface:

LoveYourSuit
02-05-2009, 03:54 PM
Sweet. Nothing like building up that fanbase on the Baja Peninsula. And I think my HS freshman Spanish teacher and Hispanic grandparents would be sick with my pathetic translation skills. :redface:


This further evidence that Cantu is on his way to the Sox.

Meanwhile, what a party atmosphere that place is..... WOW.

Never thought baseball in Mexico was that big and the crowd having so much fun with the Mariachis and Banda Music. Good stuff.

SoxandtheCityTee
02-07-2009, 07:43 AM
Tuesday 2/17, 9:30 Central; 30 minutes.

CLR01
02-08-2009, 03:09 PM
Sox are facing off against the Mariners right now. I got $100 that says Johnson strikes out 19.

Hitmen77
02-08-2009, 03:31 PM
Sox are facing off against the Mariners right now. I got $100 that says Johnson strikes out 19.

Good to hear Hawk and Wimpy again.

Hey, it's from 1997 and the Sox starter is someone named Clemons. I knew Schuler would come to his senses and sign Roger Clemens instead of Jamie Navarro!

The Mariners lineup features 3 future Hall of Famers: A-Rod, Griffey, and Johnson.

getonbckthr
02-08-2009, 03:32 PM
I love it. We get some vintage Hawk and Wimpy announcing. God I hate Terry Bevington!

getonbckthr
02-08-2009, 03:33 PM
Good to hear Hawk and Wimpy again.

Hey, it's from 1997 and the Sox starter is someone named Clemons. I knew Schuler would come to his senses and sign Roger Clemens instead of Jamie Navarro!

The Mariners lineup features 3 future Hall of Famers: A-Rod, Griffey, and Johnson.

Not no more

CLR01
02-08-2009, 03:46 PM
Hey, it's from 1997 and the Sox starter is someone named Clemons. I knew Schuler would come to his senses and sign Roger Clemens instead of Jamie Navarro!


The guide does say this is a Roger 20 strikeout game. I remeber it so well.

WhiteSox5187
02-08-2009, 04:00 PM
I don't suppose MLB network will show the game where Bevington called to the bullpen with no one warming up, will they? Does anyone remember what game that was?

SoxandtheCityTee
02-08-2009, 04:17 PM
Wow, what a blast from the past -- played on 8/8/97.

The guide is all screwed up, by the way, and not for the first time, either.

Did anyone else see a couple innings back when Ozzie made all those faces and gestures after the double play he started was completed, the one that sent Junior to third?

thomas35forever
02-08-2009, 04:24 PM
Sox are facing off against the Mariners right now. I got $100 that says Johnson strikes out 19.
Are you crazy? The Sox'll get a piece of Johnson in the 9th.

Lip Man 1
02-08-2009, 04:52 PM
Question to those who watch:

When this network is showing these All Time Games do they run that goofy crawl on the bottom...telling up such "important" information as who won the Caribbean World Series or what free agent 2nd baseman remain, forty times an hour?

Thanks,

Lip

I want Mags back
02-08-2009, 05:01 PM
Question to those who watch:

When this network is showing these All Time Games do they run that goofy crawl on the bottom...telling up such "important" information as who won the Caribbean World Series or what free agent 2nd baseman remain, forty times an hour?

Thanks,

Lip

yes they do.
Why wouldn't they?

doublem23
02-08-2009, 05:18 PM
yes they do.
Why wouldn't they?

Lip thinks it takes away from the purity of the broadcast.

This must be a generation gap thing, because I hardly notice the crawl at the bottom, but yeah, it's there. I'm watching Kerry Wood's 20 K game against Houston in 1998 (say what you will, this is one hell of a pitching performance), and I've notice they occasionally toss in "information bubbles" into the broadcast... I've seen 1 per inning. It's stuff like "Jeff Bagwell had 191 career homers at this game, he retired with 340-whatever."

It's still better than no baseball. :dunno:

doublem23
02-08-2009, 05:59 PM
Wow, Wrigley is like 60% empty.

skobabe8
02-08-2009, 06:39 PM
Wow, Wrigley is like 60% empty.

More than that. The box score the official attendance was 15,758.

I don't care if it's the Cubs, it's damn good to be watching baseball.

Lip Man 1
02-08-2009, 06:53 PM
Double:

I have no issues with the occasional "pop up" which is what you are describing.

I'm trying to find out definitively if that crawl on the bottom, is on continuously during their reshowing of these classic games. Do you know one way or the other on that specific case?

My beef with the "crawl" is the reason it was started in the first place... to provide up to the minute information for the stat geeks and fantasy players who have ruined sports.

Yes to me it takes away from the broadcast and also takes up a part of the screen that should be used to show the game itself.

Also a lot of the "information" is stupid. Like Bob Costas said during one of his HBO sports shows, "I'm trying to watch the Cubs-Mets game and I get Mel Kiper's 'mock draft' on the bottom of the screen...WHO CARES?"

So if you or anyone else can answer the original question on the crawl, I appreciate the help.

Lip

Lip Man 1
02-08-2009, 06:56 PM
Skobabe:

You can always watch baseball...anytime of the day, anytime of the year...just pull out your Sox tapes and or DVD's.

You don't need a network to show you baseball when you want it.

Lip

Bruizer
02-08-2009, 07:10 PM
Double:

I have no issues with the occasional "pop up" which is what you are describing.

I'm trying to find out definitively if that crawl on the bottom, is on continuously during their reshowing of these classic games. Do you know one way or the other on that specific case?

My beef with the "crawl" is the reason it was started in the first place... to provide up to the minute information for the stat geeks and fantasy players who have ruined sports.

Yes to me it takes away from the broadcast and also takes up a part of the screen that should be used to show the game itself.

Also a lot of the "information" is stupid. Like Bob Costas said during one of his HBO sports shows, "I'm trying to watch the Cubs-Mets game and I get Mel Kiper's 'mock draft' on the bottom of the screen...WHO CARES?"

So if you or anyone else can answer the original question on the crawl, I appreciate the help.

Lip

Yeah, they still show the crawl. I just adjust the picture to zoom in and cut the crawl out.

:cool:

itsnotrequired
02-08-2009, 07:14 PM
lip won't rest until mlb network lies in ruins.

Lip Man 1
02-08-2009, 08:26 PM
Or until you decide to start using capital letters.

:cool:

Lip

itsnotrequired
02-08-2009, 08:30 PM
Or until you decide to start using capital letters.

:cool:

Lip

my wife had doubts when i decided to grow a beard but we made out today and she found it much softer than imagined.

doublem23
02-08-2009, 08:32 PM
The crawl at the bottom really takes up no more than 2-3% of the entire screen and is very easy to ignore, but to each their own. If that's the deal-breaker for you, you're missing a network that already has some fantastic programming. It'd be like blowing off Thanksgiving dinner because you don't like cranberry sauce.

skobabe8
02-08-2009, 08:45 PM
Skobabe:

You can always watch baseball...anytime of the day, anytime of the year...just pull out your Sox tapes and or DVD's.

You don't need a network to show you baseball when you want it.

Lip

I know. Its just that those arent in my DVD player at the moment so I would have to get up and put them in.

It's nice to stay on my couch and flip thru the channels and come across baseball.

hula
02-11-2009, 10:33 AM
This further evidence that Cantu is on his way to the Sox.

Jorge Cantu? If so, that would be cool! I watched him play here in Durham for the Bulls for years...

DSpivack
02-11-2009, 10:16 PM
Show on 1993 season on right now.

DSpivack
02-15-2009, 02:25 PM
Mike Cameron's 4 HR game on again right now. :whiner:

SoxandtheCityTee
02-15-2009, 02:26 PM
Mike Cameron's 4 HR game on again right now. :whiner:

No thanks. It was hard enough to sit through the first time.

Madscout
02-15-2009, 04:05 PM
my wife had doubts when i decided to grow a beard but we made out today and she found it much softer than imagined.
Wow.

Hitmen77
02-16-2009, 12:33 AM
1959 World Series Highlights. Tuesday 2/17, 9:30 Central; 30 minutes.

I know I'll forget to mention it tomorrow, so i'll bump this now. '59 Series highlights are to air on Tuesday night at 9:30 CST.

whitesox901
02-16-2009, 01:41 AM
Mike Cameron's 4 HR game on again right now. :whiner:

I was watching that with my cousin, it was torture, but hey it was some sort of Sox game

PaleHoser
02-16-2009, 06:40 PM
I just checked the MLB Network programming and Carlton Fisk's return to Boston (4/10/81) game has been bumped to February 22nd @ 9:00 pm EST.

Link (http://mlbnetwork.mlb.com/network/schedule/?ymd=20090222)

itsnotrequired
02-16-2009, 07:29 PM
I just checked the MLB Network programming and Carlton Fisk's return to Boston (4/10/81) game has been bumped to February 22nd @ 9:00 pm EST.

Link (http://mlbnetwork.mlb.com/network/schedule/?ymd=20090222)

thanks for the update. fixed in the first post.

DSpivack
02-17-2009, 09:43 PM
1959 Series highlights on now.

Hitmen77
02-18-2009, 08:25 AM
Does anyone know if they did a "Cathedrals of the Game" (now showing on MLB Network) for The Cell?

WhiteSoxJunkie
02-18-2009, 01:35 PM
Mike Cameron's 4 HR game on again right now. :whiner:

It's on now too. The Seattle Mariners starter for that game? None other than James Baldwin.

DSpivack
02-18-2009, 02:38 PM
It's on now too. The Seattle Mariners starter for that game? None other than James Baldwin.

An odd coincidence, as he was horrible for the Mariners that year.

Whappeh
02-18-2009, 04:07 PM
Does anyone know if they did a "Cathedrals of the Game" (now showing on MLB Network) for The Cell?

According to this link:
http://www.tv.com/cathedrals-of-the-game/show/29647/episode_guide.html?season=1

they never did.

Lip Man 1
02-18-2009, 04:11 PM
Naturally.

Lip

Hitmen77
02-19-2009, 02:14 PM
According to this link:
http://www.tv.com/cathedrals-of-the-game/show/29647/episode_guide.html?season=1

they never did.

Figures.

It looks like they only did tours of half of the MLB ballparks (plus the Hall of Fame). Plus, since these shows were made in 2004, some new parks like the ones in Washington and St. Louis weren't even around yet.

DSpivack
02-19-2009, 02:17 PM
Figures.

It looks like they only did tours of half of the MLB ballparks (plus the Hall of Fame). Plus, since these shows were made in 2004, some new parks like the ones in Washington and St. Louis weren't even around yet.


That's what the site says, but that makes no sense to me. For what network were they made?

anewman35
02-19-2009, 02:25 PM
That's what the site says, but that makes no sense to me. For what network were they made?

Looks like they were done for INHD. http://baseballparks.blogspot.com/2005/10/cathedrals-of-game.html. It's hard to see how MLB Network can take any blame for it. Hopefully they'll decide to make some new shows if these go over well.

DSpivack
02-19-2009, 02:27 PM
Looks like they were done for INHD. http://baseballparks.blogspot.com/2005/10/cathedrals-of-game.html. It's hard to see how MLB Network can take any blame for it. Hopefully they'll decide to make some new shows if these go over well.

Ahh, thanks.

SOX ADDICT '73
02-19-2009, 02:28 PM
That's what the site says, but that makes no sense to me. For what network were they made?
There used to be a special "HD Network" (Comcast channel 174) that would show random Hi-Def programming. Sportswise, I saw a few out-of-market baseball games two seasons ago, and they even broadcast a few NFL Network games live. That was the first place I saw the "Cathedrals of the Game" programs, but I never assumed they would make one for USCF.

Edit: Ah, INHD, that's what the channel was called. Thanks, anewman!

doublem23
02-19-2009, 02:44 PM
Yeah they were made for some randon HD channel that featured more than just ballparks. Places like Happy Valley, Kinnick Stadium, and wherever the Alabama Crimson Tide play football.

Well done shows, I hope they do more.

Hitmen77
02-19-2009, 02:59 PM
It was definitely done around 2004 because on their trip to Comerica Park, the Tigers were playing the Sox and I could see Carlos Lee in uniform for the Sox.

Now that the MLB Network exists, hopefully someone will pick up doing this show again. I'd like to see all 30 parks done.

DSpivack
02-19-2009, 03:19 PM
It was definitely done around 2004 because on their trip to Comerica Park, the Tigers were playing the Sox and I could see Carlos Lee in uniform for the Sox.

Now that the MLB Network exists, hopefully someone will pick up doing this show again. I'd like to see all 30 parks done.

Or even some cool minor league parks, especially those with history, like Rickwood Field.

DaveFeelsRight
02-21-2009, 10:11 AM
whats this sox game that's on right now? on the information it says st louis at the mets from 1985.

DaveFeelsRight
02-21-2009, 10:19 AM
oh its tom seaver's 300th win. nice.

itsnotrequired
02-21-2009, 10:36 AM
whats this sox game that's on right now? on the information it says st louis at the mets from 1985.

this seems to be happening more frequently. the programming on mlbnetwork's page and on the cable guide doesn't match what is actually on.

PKalltheway
02-21-2009, 11:21 AM
Yes! They switched the announcers for the Seaver game over to Hawk and Don Drysdale!:bandance:

PKalltheway
02-21-2009, 12:14 PM
Geez, Rudy Law got thrown out at a close play at home, and it was a shock for me to see Tony LaRussa go THAT nuts! I've seen him get upset, but mercy!

kruzer31
02-21-2009, 01:38 PM
That was great. Herm Schneider had a collared 83 jersey, tight as hell. Reinsdorf was on at the end congratulating Seaver. Good stuff. Gaylord Perry's 300th on now. Ken Kaiser behind the plate, love how he calls balls and strikes

JEFF

Woofer
02-21-2009, 01:39 PM
Harold had a great catch in the 9th for the second out. Great to see this game again with all my old favs: Fisk, Guillen, and Baines.

Brian26
02-21-2009, 01:46 PM
Just walked in and saw the last inning. I had no idea this was going to be on or I would have set the dvr.

That Baines catch in the 9th was insane. Reinsdorf and Einhorn were actually pretty funny when they popped in on Seaver's interview. Reinsdorf said he would never forget the day they walked up to Seaver's hotel room to tell him he was now a member of the White Sox, and then Seaver almost threw them out of the hotel and asked for their IDs. :lol:

sox1970
02-21-2009, 01:53 PM
I didn't watch the game today, but I'm going to guess they didn't mention Seaver's pitch count one time.

If they played the game like they do now, Seaver would have been in the dugout, and Bob James would have been on the mound in the 9th.

doublem23
02-21-2009, 08:46 PM
If they played the game like they do now, Seaver would have been in the dugout, and Bob James would have been on the mound in the 9th.

He didn't finish 29 of his starts in 1985. Plus, he was paid $1.1 million that year.

WhiteSox5187
02-22-2009, 04:47 PM
In the game yesterday I noticed that they switched between Sox broadcasters (Hawk and Drysdale) and Yankees broadcasters. If they do that tonight it will be interesting because broadcasting for the Red Sox that game (or at least that year), Hawk.

soxfan21
02-22-2009, 08:35 PM
Nice to hear Harry doing the six game. It was also weird to hear him say that the Sox home opener was not going to be broadcast on television.

Brian26
02-22-2009, 08:39 PM
It is just phenomenal to be able to see this game again. Although, I'm a stickler for details and find myself annoyed that the Sox blue road jerseys are a distinctly different shade of blue than their helmets. Their helmets in fact almost look black.

It's fun listening to Harry and Jimmy again. They're all over Morrison after he laid down that awful bunt.

doublem23
02-22-2009, 08:48 PM
This is a Harry Caray I do not remember. Coherent, insightful, funny... This is very enjoyable.

WhiteSox5187
02-22-2009, 10:26 PM
Boy, Harry and Jimmy are great to listen to. I wish we could hear more of these games with them. And look at how thin Hermy is!

jabrch
02-22-2009, 10:32 PM
Harry was a great announcer - even loaded - when he was young and even middle aged.

He was bad after a few years with the Cubs - and he went way downhill after the stroke.

jabrch
02-22-2009, 10:34 PM
This is a Harry Caray I do not remember. Coherent, insightful, funny... This is very enjoyable.

This Jimmy is also something that many (who only remember him from his time with WSCR) don't know about either.

They were quite a duo.

WhiteSox5187
02-22-2009, 10:41 PM
I have a hard time seeing Hawk getting on a guy for not being able to lay down a bunt. Our current team would kill Harry and Jimmy if they were still broadcasting for us.

soxfan21
02-23-2009, 10:10 AM
Game 2 of 2005 ALCS on MLB.com right now.

EuroSox35
02-23-2009, 05:03 PM
I caught the replay of that Red Sox opener last night around 2 am (guide info was wrong as usual), good stuff. It was weird hearing Caray not slurring words and sounding so enthusiastic for the Sox (I was too young to ever hear him do games for the Sox)

Lip Man 1
02-23-2009, 05:07 PM
Harry and Jimmy were the best bar none. Don Drysdale and Hawk are a distant second in my book.

Lip

Brian26
02-23-2009, 08:44 PM
Harry and Jimmy were the best bar none. Don Drysdale and Hawk are a distant second in my book.

Lip

As a novelty, it was fun watching that broadcast and listening to Harry & Jimmy in their prime for one game. I'm not sure I could handle that act for 162 games a year though. By the 7th or 8th inning last night, Piersall's schtick started to get old. For as much as Harrelson complains about the umpires, Harry and Jimmy were ten times worse. I found some of the stuff entertaining, but a lot of it came off as bush league. Maybe you could argue that broadcasters didn't have to be as politically correct in that era. I enjoy constructive criticism from the booth, but Piersall's whining over guys not getting bunts down or dropping pop ups was aggravating to listen to. But, as a snapshot of history, that was totally fun to watch.

I agree with you that Drysdale and Hawk were the best.

esbrechtel
02-24-2009, 09:24 AM
I really got a kick out of the uniforms, the socks especially!

It was great to see the graphics and it was very fun to watch the game...

Being born in 84 I dont have too many memories of Fisk (my best memory was Bo Jackson bringing out the Motor Cycle) so it was great to get to see him in action...

soxfan21
02-24-2009, 09:35 AM
Today at 1 on mlb.com the blackout game will be on.

558561
02-26-2009, 09:52 AM
Thanks saves me from checking the scheduling everyday lol.

Lip Man 1
02-26-2009, 10:42 AM
Brian:

To each his own. Calling out players, managers, owners and umpires in my opinion when they don't do their job should be the rule not the exception.

As bad as the franchise was for seven of the 11 seasons Harry called games, it most certainly needed to be said...the fans were demanding it.

Lip

Vernam
02-28-2009, 06:22 PM
I finally got around to watching the replay of Game 1, Sox vs. Astros. Did anyone else notice the future president sitting in the first row behind the Sox dugout? He was in the seats where tourists routinely talk on their cell phones and wave to the camera during right-handers' at-bats. He was also wearing what looked like the same Sox hat he's been pictured in recently.

Please, no political statements -- just wondering if anybody caught it.

Vernam

Nellie_Fox
03-01-2009, 12:22 AM
I finally got around to watching the replay of Game 1, Sox vs. Astros. Did anyone else notice the future president sitting in the first row behind the Sox dugout? He was in the seats where tourists routinely talk on their cell phones and wave to the camera during right-handers' at-bats. He was also wearing what looked like the same Sox hat he's been pictured in recently.

Please, no political statements -- just wondering if anybody caught it.

VernamWhoopee.

Vernam
03-01-2009, 12:31 AM
Whoopee.Thanks for your comment.

Vernam

Nellie_Fox
03-01-2009, 12:44 AM
Thanks for your comment.

VernamThanks for posting yet another post about Obama as a Sox fan. There might have been one person left on this board who was unaware of it.

What were you expecting to see that wasn't political? "yeah, I saw it." "yeah, me too." "Oh, I missed it."

Please take your excitement about it to the PI board.

whitesox901
03-01-2009, 01:02 AM
Thanks for posting yet another post about Obama as a Sox fan. There might have been one person left on this board who was unaware of it.

What were you expecting to see that wasn't political? "yeah, I saw it." "yeah, me too." "Oh, I missed it."

Please take your excitement about it to the PI board.

amen brother :gulp:

Vernam
03-01-2009, 01:07 AM
Thanks for posting yet another post about Obama as a Sox fan. There might have been one person left on this board who was unaware of it.

What were you expecting to see that wasn't political? "yeah, I saw it." "yeah, me too." "Oh, I missed it."

Please take your excitement about it to the PI board.All of that says a whole lot more about you than it does about me. Ironic that, in reading so much into an innocuous post, you commit the very act -- politicizing this thread -- that you're accusing me of committing.

In short, **** you. I bet you'll delete this message so no one can see one of this board's patently reasonable posters calling you out. But since you're the one who pulled the pin, catch: Thank god *******s like you can only run a message board and are no longer in charge of this country.

Over and out.

Vernam

Nellie_Fox
03-01-2009, 02:11 AM
All of that says a whole lot more about you than it does about me. Ironic that, in reading so much into an innocuous post, you commit the very act -- politicizing this thread -- that you're accusing me of committing.

In short, **** you. I bet you'll delete this message so no one can see one of this board's patently reasonable posters calling you out. But since you're the one who pulled the pin, catch: Thank god *******s like you can only run a message board and are no longer in charge of this country.

Over and out.

VernamI don't run this board. I'm not even an administrator; just a moderator.

You haven't "called me out." You've just continued showing that you were making a political post in the first place, and trying to put yourself in a "heads I win, tails you lose" position by betting that I'll delete your post. Then you reveal your politics by name calling.

If you had said to any other poster "in short, **** you" I'd whack you for a personal attack. However, I won't, since it would make you a martyr.

However, keep your excitement about Obama and the direction he is taking the country confined to the PI board, or the appropriate actions will follow.

bradchifan3
03-01-2009, 12:28 PM
Thanks for posting yet another post about Obama as a Sox fan. There might have been one person left on this board who was unaware of it.

What were you expecting to see that wasn't political? "yeah, I saw it." "yeah, me too." "Oh, I missed it."

Please take your excitement about it to the PI board.

He just made a simple observation. I think you are overreacting.

Anywho, any new MLB network coverage of the Sox?

chisox117
03-01-2009, 12:29 PM
he just made a simple observation. I think you are overreacting.

+1

Matlock
03-03-2009, 03:01 PM
Vernam was not making a political post. Anyone that deemed it one should lighten up. Actually, the "whoopee" comment was more political.

It's amazing that the most popular/powerful Sox fan in the world can't even be mentioned like Vernam did. So, if "he" were to throw out the first pitch this year or attend a game, could there be a thread on it? Or a post?

BadBobbyJenks
03-04-2009, 07:42 PM
Saturday, March 21
8:00 PM - 2009 White Sox team analysis

Is this the 30 teams in 30 days show I have heard about? Do we really get a whole hour on each team?

sox1970
03-04-2009, 07:53 PM
Is this the 30 teams in 30 days show I have heard about? Do we really get a whole hour on each team?

Yes. The White Sox are the last team shown in this series.

Nellie_Fox
03-04-2009, 11:48 PM
Yes. The White Sox are the last team shown in this series.Saving the best for last.

Hitmen77
03-06-2009, 04:33 PM
I finally got around to watching the 1981 Sox home opener off my DVR.

Interesting to hear Harry and Jimmy praising Eddie Einhorn. Boy, those good feelings didn't last!

I also got a kick out of the funky opening music to start the telecast. They showed some Sox highlights during that opening bit and boy did old Comiskey's grass look awful in one of those clips. I wonder if it from game soon after Disco Demolition.

WhiteSox5187
03-06-2009, 05:15 PM
I finally got around to watching the 1981 Sox home opener off my DVR.

Interesting to hear Harry and Jimmy praising Eddie Einhorn. Boy, those good feelings didn't last!

I also got a kick out of the funky opening music to start the telecast. They showed some Sox highlights during that opening bit and boy did old Comiskey's grass look awful in one of those clips. I wonder if it from game soon after Disco Demolition.
Presumably the clips were from the 1980 season, Disco Demolition was in '79.

AZChiSoxFan
03-06-2009, 10:31 PM
Is this the 30 teams in 30 days show I have heard about? Do we really get a whole hour on each team?

Yes we do but don't tell Lip. :tongue:

Hitmen77
03-07-2009, 11:20 AM
Presumably the clips were from the 1980 season, Disco Demolition was in '79.

Maybe. They had one clip of a Sox player fielding a ball in what looked like a mine field in Comiskey's outfield. I can't think if any reason why the field would look that bad in '80, but I do remember it looking embarrassingly bad like that shortly after disco demolition.

WhiteSox5187
03-07-2009, 11:42 AM
Maybe. They had one clip of a Sox player fielding a ball in what looked like a mine field in Comiskey's outfield. I can't think if any reason why the field would look that bad in '80, but I do remember it looking embarrassingly bad like that shortly after disco demolition.

The field was more damaged by a series of rock concerts held in bad weather than Disco Demolition if I recall my history correctly, so it could be that the Sox had a series of concerts again in 1980 and the field was beat up as a result.

thomas35forever
03-14-2009, 03:10 PM
Instead of the Sox-Rangers game, they're showing Opening Day 1981 between the Sox and the Carmines with Harry Carey and Jimmy Piersall at the mic.

Lip Man 1
03-21-2009, 09:13 PM
For what it's worth, the MLBN just showed the White Sox preview. I haven't watched it yet, I just taped a block of the programming since the schedule never matches what they are actually showing.

I fast forwarded the tape to the end of the show so that I can record some other stuff but both Mitch Williams and John Hart, the "analysts" pick the Sox to finish in 3rd place.

Lip

Lip Man 1
03-22-2009, 12:08 AM
Just watched the show and I must admit I was very pleasantly surprised. It was in - depth, fair and balanced.

Hart and Williams knew the big league roster and the minor league system. They did a number of interviews and broke down each area of the team.

Even their 3rd place predictions came with a caveat. Both said the division was wide open with each team having a weakness. They said if the back end of the rotation comes through and if the kids can actually produce, the Sox can win it, but they said with those questions they couldn't just "anoint" the Sox to repeat.

The only major error in the show was when they spoke about Greg Luzinski wearing "shorts." Bull of course came along three after the one game where they did that vs. Baltimore.

The only other subjective area was on the Sox All Time Team they left off Billy Pierce. Bad, bad mistake.

Recommend watching this show highly when it repeats.

Lip

Nellie_Fox
03-22-2009, 12:36 AM
The only major error in the show was when they spoke about Greg Luzinski wearing "shorts." Bull of course came along three after the one game where they did that vs. Baltimore.One freaking game, and everybody keeps bringing them up like the Sox wore them regularly. I really get tired of it.

TommyJohn
03-22-2009, 01:11 AM
One freaking game, and everybody keeps bringing them up like the Sox wore them regularly. I really get tired of it.

Tell me about it. Boob Costas also once cracked "personally I found the sight of Wilbur Wood in shorts to be very inspiring." HA HA! One problem. The Sox wore shorts for one game in the summer of 1976. Wood had hurt his knee on May 9 of that year and was gone for the season. Never let facts stand in the way of an unfunny, ego-feeding crack.

SoxandtheCityTee
03-22-2009, 10:40 AM
I thought the 30 Days, White Sox version was pretty good too, despite the inevitable dumb comment about the shorts. Nice to see someone on the airwaves have the baseball knowledge and sense to comment on (for example) AJ's qualities as a ballplayer, rather than the usual pandering to the know-nothing haters and schoolgirl squealing about how he is just so, totally, like, evil.

I have my fingers crossed that MLB network can become my go-to for a quick update on the day's events around baseball, freeing me from my occasional need to put up with the jags at ESPN.

WhiteSox5187
03-22-2009, 05:11 PM
One freaking game, and everybody keeps bringing them up like the Sox wore them regularly. I really get tired of it.

I thought the Sox wore them for three games, one against Baltimore and a double header against Kansas City.

Lip Man 1
03-22-2009, 05:14 PM
No they wore then in the first game of a double header then refused to wear them for the second game. They were never seen again.

Lip

anewman35
03-22-2009, 05:27 PM
No they wore then in the first game of a double header then refused to wear them for the second game. They were never seen again.

Lip

They wore them at least twice. See http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/080701 and click on the links under "Who wears short shorts". One picture clearly has a game against KC, the other against a team in orange.

TommyJohn
03-22-2009, 05:57 PM
They wore them at least twice. See http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/080701 and click on the links under "Who wears short shorts". One picture clearly has a game against KC, the other against a team in orange.

Funny, I just remember the one game-the first game of a DH against Kansas City. But the catcher in that one picture clearly looks like he plays for either Detroit or Baltimore.

Lip Man 1
03-22-2009, 06:04 PM
I'll check with the Sox on this for ya!

Lip

anewman35
03-22-2009, 07:52 PM
I'll check with the Sox on this for ya!

Lip

I thought I remembered a Uni Watch column specifically about this, but I can't find it now. Somebody might want to search their archives more than I did, or e-mail Paul Lukas and see what evidence he has about his "three games" claim.

Bucky F. Dent
03-22-2009, 07:55 PM
One freaking game, and everybody keeps bringing them up like the Sox wore them regularly. I really get tired of it.


Well, the shorts were pretty freaking freaky.:)

Nellie_Fox
03-23-2009, 12:53 AM
Well, the shorts were pretty freaking freaky.Yes, but it's lazy journalism to just keep going to that well all the time. I'm not a Veeck fan, and the shorts are just one of many reasons why.

thomas35forever
03-23-2009, 02:37 PM
Their 30 Clubs in 30 Days for the Sox is supposed to be on again in a little over 20 minutes, but it's only the seventh inning in the ST game they're broadcasting. I wonder if this'll be in jeopardy because I haven't seen it and I don't think it'll be on again.

Lip Man 1
03-23-2009, 03:33 PM
This and that...have both Bob Vanderberg and Rich Lindberg checking on the number of games the Sox wore shorts in.

Lip

doublem23
04-01-2009, 06:21 PM
I just noticed today that MLB Network HD is available on my Comcast cable down here in Peoria. I have no idea if that's the case up in Chicago, but I'm assuming if we have it down here in podunk, you guys have it, too.

Nellie_Fox
04-02-2009, 12:09 AM
I just noticed today that MLB Network HD is available on my Comcast cable down here in Peoria. I have no idea if that's the case up in Chicago, but I'm assuming if we have it down here in podunk, you guys have it, too.Charter cable added it on the 31st as well.

SoxFan78
04-02-2009, 08:25 AM
I found this last night also for Comcast in Chicagoland. Channel 233

cbone
05-09-2009, 09:25 AM
If you are a masochist, Game 4 of the 83 series is on now. Kinda cool to see the old park. Burns was ridiculous.

TommyJohn
05-09-2009, 09:33 AM
If you are a masochist, Game 4 of the 83 series is on now. Kinda cool to see the old park. Burns was ridiculous.

This is funny. I was going to post a thread with the title "For the masochists amongst you..." and then post in the message that Game 4 was on.

Great to see old Comiskey and hear Nancy Faust playing. I was on an enforced vacation during the playoffs (CPS teachers' strike) so it brings back fond memories. Too bad the outcome wasn't positive.

MiamiSpartan
05-10-2009, 12:29 PM
230pm today...
MLB network

PaleHoser
05-13-2009, 01:08 PM
MLB Network is scheduled to replay 1983 ALCS Game 4 on Tuesday, May 19th at 2:30 am ET/1:30 am CT.

I'm not a masochist, but I'm going to make my kids watch Hoss throw 150 pitches. That would be two starts today. Burns was just pure guts.

SoxandtheCityTee
05-15-2009, 08:41 PM
If you are a masochist, Game 4 of the 83 series is on now. Kinda cool to see the old park. Burns was ridiculous.

I was at the game and it's amazing how much it still depresses me to watch this. I can't even watch Burns's face. :(:

AZChiSoxFan
05-19-2009, 03:29 PM
MLB Network is scheduled to replay 1983 ALCS Game 4 on Tuesday, May 19th at 2:30 am ET/1:30 am CT.

I'm not a masochist, but I'm going to make my kids watch Hoss throw 150 pitches. That would be two starts today. Burns was just pure guts.

My wife just E-mailed me to tell me this is on right now. Unfortunately, on the broadcast, they are already in the 8th or 9th, so it's too late for me to tape it.

I know this is masochistic, but can someone give me a brief recap of some of the baserunning blunders (or whatever it was) that cost the good guys some great chances to score in this game?

Brian26
05-19-2009, 07:26 PM
I know this is masochistic, but can someone give me a brief recap of some of the baserunning blunders (or whatever it was) that cost the good guys some great chances to score in this game?

The biggest blunder came late in the game with Vance Law on second base and Jerry Dybzinski on first. A base hit to left was hit too hard to score Law who put on the brakes while rounding third. Dybzinski, running with his head down, didn't pick up Law in front of him and proceeded to get himself into a rundown. Dybzinski was tagged out and Law was stranded at third (would have been the lead run...and the eventual winning run).

TommyJohn
05-19-2009, 08:20 PM
The biggest blunder came late in the game with Vance Law on second base and Jerry Dybzinski on first. A base hit to left was hit too hard to score Law who put on the brakes while rounding third. Dybzinski, running with his head down, didn't pick up Law in front of him and proceeded to get himself into a rundown. Dybzinski was tagged out and Law was stranded at third (would have been the lead run...and the eventual winning run).


Actually, Dybzinski was hung out between second and third so Law broke for the plate to draw the throw. He barreled into Dempsey, trying to jar the ball loose, but was out. Dybzinski was on second and Cruz on first. Then they got balked over to second and third, but were stranded there at the end of the inning.

drewcifer
05-19-2009, 08:26 PM
Let's go to the tape. Who's got it?

Brian26
05-19-2009, 09:12 PM
Let's go to the tape. Who's got it?

TommyJohn has a better memory than mine.

TommyJohn
05-19-2009, 10:06 PM
TommyJohn has a better memory than mine.

Well, sort of. I DO remember that Law crashed into Dempsey and was out at the plate (I have the original Sun-Times back page picture) but I was watching the game when it was on last weekend.

Brian26
05-19-2009, 10:38 PM
Well, sort of. I DO remember that Law crashed into Dempsey and was out at the plate (I have the original Sun-Times back page picture) but I was watching the game when it was on last weekend.

Just watched the play on my DVR after taping it overnight. Vance probably would have been safe if he dropped down and tried to hook the slide. Dempsey was conceding the plate and put his shoulder down ready for a collusion.

Drysdale was great though. He lost it when Dibber got hung up.

TommyJohn
05-20-2009, 08:50 AM
Just watched the play on my DVR after taping it overnight. Vance probably would have been safe if he dropped down and tried to hook the slide. Dempsey was conceding the plate and put his shoulder down ready for a collusion.

Drysdale was great though. He lost it when Dibber got hung up.

I found Drysdale's reaction interesting. He criticized it as a rookie blunder, but otherwise wasn't overly harsh.

It made me wonder how the play would have been called by Harry Caray. I can imagine that he would scream and rant about it to the point where Dybzinski would probably have had to leave town.

Soxman219
06-06-2009, 12:53 PM
Tied at 1-1 in the third, wonder how this will turn out :cool:.

Stormin' Norm
06-20-2009, 10:04 AM
Not really sure this is worth a mention but MLBN is replaying Randy Johnson's 19k performance against the SOX from 8/8/97 today until 1pm.

SOXSINCE'70
06-20-2009, 10:25 AM
Not really sure this is worth a mention but MLBN is replaying Randy Johnson's 19k performance against the SOX from 8/8/97 today until 1pm.

I saw the first inning.Randy had some of his best "stuff" in this game.

How about some of the Sox palyers in this game??

Lyle Mouton,Chris Snopek, the "immortal":rolleyes: Chris Cleamons
(nice draft pick,Schu!!) against "The Big Unit".

I'm glad Buddy Bell has a better idea of how to develop players.

Brian26
06-20-2009, 10:49 AM
I was just watching a little bit of this. Good old #10 Darren Lewis was manning centerfield, and Hawk was peculiarly upbeat in the booth with Wimpy even though the season at that point was pretty much over.

theoakwoody
06-30-2009, 10:14 PM
2:30 pm Saturday but I'm not sure which game it is. Actually on the website it says they are re-airing the '08 WS game 3 but when I go on the Comcast guide it says Sox vs Yanks '85. Oh well I'm just going to record it and hope for the best.

Brian26
06-30-2009, 10:26 PM
It's most likely Seaver's 300th victory.

chi_ny
07-10-2009, 10:03 AM
Does anybody know if it's at all possible to purchase a copy of a past broadcast? Say, for instance, the 13 inning Dodger game last month. Whether it be from MLB, or from the Sox, or from the network that broadcast it originally? I don't know if it's possible, or who to contact about it, if it is indeed possible.

It was the first game that my son and i have attended, that the Sox have won. I have found some video hightlights that are still online at a particular site. But I'd really like to have a copy of the broadcast, if it's possible.


thanks.:sox

Brian26
07-25-2009, 10:33 PM
Mark's perfect game will be replayed Sunday morning 7-26-09 at 9am Central Time.

Martinigirl
07-28-2009, 08:45 AM
Does anyone know if the game will be re-broadcast again anytime soon? I just got back from Ireland and didn't get to see it.

bigsoxfan420
07-28-2009, 10:29 AM
Does anyone know if the game will be re-broadcast again anytime soon? I just got back from Ireland and didn't get to see it.


FYI...the game is available on itunes for 1.99.

Martinigirl
07-28-2009, 10:34 AM
FYI...the game is available on itunes for 1.99.

Thanks! I will get it today.

Kogs35
07-28-2009, 08:01 PM
FYI this thursdays game vs the yankees will be on the mlb network those not in chicago or new york. Bob Costas and Jim Kaat on the call

soltrain21
09-10-2009, 12:17 PM
They are showing a World Series video right now.

chisoxwschamps05
10-30-2009, 12:47 PM
Game 3 of the 2005 World Series is on at 1 PM today. So in 15 minutes.

PaleHoser
11-24-2009, 12:51 AM
MLB Network is broadcasting the 2003 All-Star Game at 4:30 pm CST on Sunday, 11/29 and the 1983 All-Star Game Highlights (unfortunately, no full game) at 12:30 pm CST on Monday, 11/30.

JermaineDye05
11-28-2009, 09:07 PM
MLBN is airing some allstar games tonight, including the '94 (11 pm) and '95 (2 am). I believe Frank homered in the '95 game, according to what I've read online. I'm pretty excited because this will be my first time to see video of Frank while he was in the midst of his prime.

JermaineDye05
11-29-2009, 05:19 PM
I recorded the games last night on DirecTV and wow. Big Frank was hitting .383 at the all-star break ('94) with a .795 SLG :o:. I have to say it was really cool hearing Bob Costas, Joe Morgan, and Bob Uecker absolutely praise Frank Thomas for what an amazing player Frank was at the time. I knew the Big Hurt was good but I didn't know he was THAT good.

Another tidbit: His OBP was .515!! Wow.

DSpivack
11-29-2009, 05:26 PM
I recorded the games last night on DirecTV and wow. Big Frank was hitting .383 at the all-star break ('94) with a .795 SLG :o:. I have to say it was really cool hearing Bob Costas, Joe Morgan, and Bob Uecker absolutely praise Frank Thomas for what an amazing player Frank was at the time. I knew the Big Hurt was good but I didn't know he was THAT good.

Another tidbit: His OBP was .515!! Wow.

I doubt I would have been a White Sox fan without him.

DonnieDarko
11-30-2009, 03:17 AM
Frank Thomas is also one of the main reasons I stayed a Sox fan. I mean, I was raised by a father who cheered for the South Side, but without someone like Thomas to really gravitate me toward the team, I don't think I could have kept much interest in the team as I did over the years.

One of the best pure hitters that this previous decade has seen. Man, were we lucky to have him.

steveironcity
12-09-2009, 01:55 PM
Starting at 2pm Central time today, MLB network is showing a classic game from 4-10-81

VeeckAsInWreck
12-09-2009, 01:59 PM
This has got to be like the 782nd airing of that game.

downstairs
12-09-2009, 02:12 PM
This has got to be like the 782nd airing of that game.

I know! I'm sick of seeing it. At least they've shown some other Sox games too, even if its a bad game (i.e. Randy Johnson 19k's against us)... nice to hear the old voices again. But yeah, the 1981 game is ALL they play from that era.

soxinem1
12-09-2009, 02:27 PM
This has got to be like the 782nd airing of that game.

They are doing to piss off ESPN.

ESPN: How come they keep airing a near 20-year old game with a small market Midwest team stealing a New England icon who beats them with his bat and glove the first time he faces them. How dare they!!!!!!

VeeckAsInWreck
12-09-2009, 02:27 PM
I know! I'm sick of seeing it. At least they've shown some other Sox games too, even if its a bad game (i.e. Randy Johnson 19k's against us)... nice to hear the old voices again. But yeah, the 1981 game is ALL they play from that era.

I remember ESPN Classic aired the Turn Back The Clock game from 1990 when they played in the 1917 uniforms. It'd be nice if MLB Network showed that one for a change.

TommyJohn
12-09-2009, 05:30 PM
I remember ESPN Classic aired the Turn Back The Clock game from 1990 when they played in the 1917 uniforms. It'd be nice if MLB Network showed that one for a change.I wonder if the videos for many games, including that one, even exist.

soxinem1
12-09-2009, 06:08 PM
I remember ESPN Classic aired the Turn Back The Clock game from 1990 when they played in the 1917 uniforms. It'd be nice if MLB Network showed that one for a change.

Video did not exist in 1917!!

I actually have no desire to see it again. We choked up a seven run lead late and blew the game.

Brian26
12-09-2009, 09:38 PM
Video did not exist in 1917!!

I actually have no desire to see it again. We choked up a seven run lead late and blew the game.

I think Psycho misplayed a ball and then Barry Jones imploded. Ruined a sure win for Black Jack.

soxinem1
12-10-2009, 05:05 PM
I think Psycho misplayed a ball and then Barry Jones imploded. Ruined a sure win for Black Jack.

True, but an error is still no reason to blow a seven run lead.

chisox117
12-12-2009, 01:40 PM
Dick Allen will be the guest on Studio 42 with Costas on Tuesday night. They had some great footage that they were showing during the commercial. It should be worth tuning in for.

VeeckAsInWreck
12-14-2009, 01:59 PM
Dick Allen will be the guest on Studio 42 with Costas on Tuesday night. They had some great footage that they were showing during the commercial. It should be worth tuning in for.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to checking that out. I didn't grow up watching Allen play, so he's always been somewhat of an enigma to me.

Lip Man 1
12-14-2009, 03:14 PM
You will never, ever see a season quite like the one Dick had in 1972.

Two inside the park home runs in the same game, a game winning home run after running back into Comiskey Park after being found at a taco stand, a home run into the center field bleachers....he did everything and did everything right.

My question is how much actual TV footage or footage of any kind will this show have of Dick from his White Sox days?

I offered mine via the Sox but never heard anything back.

Scroll down and click on the 1972 audio links:

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/rwas/index.php?category=14&id=2361

Lip

Medford Bobby
12-14-2009, 03:58 PM
Video did not exist in 1917!!

I actually have no desire to see it again. We choked up a seven run lead late and blew the game.
I went to that game and also taped the broadcast and to this day have no urge to relive that loss.....:whiner:

Noneck
12-15-2009, 08:06 PM
Yeah, I'm looking forward to checking that out. I didn't grow up watching Allen play, so he's always been somewhat of an enigma to me.

I was looking forward also. What a disappointment. No mention whatsoever about his 1972 MVP year.

Lip Man 1
12-15-2009, 09:15 PM
Noneck:

I haven't seen the show yet...are you telling me they simply glossed over Dick's three years with the White Sox? That is absolutely inconceivable. They said nothing about those years?????

Lip

Noneck
12-15-2009, 09:26 PM
Noneck:

I haven't seen the show yet...are you telling me they simply glossed over Dick's three years with the White Sox? That is absolutely inconceivable. They said nothing about those years?????

Lip

I believe Tanners name was mentioned once and Allyn's name once in passing. All about when Allen was on the Phils. It wasn't Allens fault it was that asswipe Costas leading him. As I watched, I thought, damn I should be conducting this interview but Lip would be better because I would digress to his horse training and track talk.

Take a stiff drink before you watch, to settle your nerves.

Oh, He did explain why in went awol at the end of the 74 season.

Lip Man 1
12-15-2009, 09:30 PM
Noneck:

Any footage of his days with the Sox?

Lip

Noneck
12-15-2009, 09:35 PM
Noneck:

Any footage of his days with the Sox?

Lip
Zero, And they didnt knock on your door. Truly amazing.

Brian26
12-15-2009, 10:31 PM
Noneck:

I haven't seen the show yet...are you telling me they simply glossed over Dick's three years with the White Sox? That is absolutely inconceivable. They said nothing about those years?????

Lip

They showed a picture of him in the red home pinstripes, and they showed a couple of seconds of Tanner in the dugout. However, they usually don't show much footage in these Studio 42 shows. This is a really good interview; make sure you take time to see it.

Noneck
12-15-2009, 10:41 PM
They showed a picture of him in the red home pinstripes, and they showed a couple of seconds of Tanner in the dugout. However, they usually don't show much footage in these Studio 42 shows. This is a really good interview; make sure you take time to see it.

It didn't bother you that it made no mention of his MVP year and dwelled on his years with the Phils? Regarding the red home pinstrips , the color was so faded I couldnt tell that is what it was or the Phillies uniform. I must have blinked when they showed Tanner.

Lip Man 1
12-16-2009, 11:44 AM
After watching the interview last night I sent this out to some members of the Sox organization as well as Dick's former teammates:

Gang:

If you haven't already watched Dick Allen's sit down interview with Bob Costas on the MLB Network, my advice to you is, don't waste your time.

It has been a long, long time since I've been as disappointed as I was tonight.

Bob Costas is one of the game's best broadcasters, he's not a historian but is well versed in the game's lore.

Yet during this interview he basically glossed over Dick's days with the White Sox.

There was no mention...none, nada, zippo of Dick's MVP season in 1972. That is mind boggling to me. Chuck Tanner's name was mentioned once. John Allyn's name was mentioned once. The only real reference to Dick's three years in Chicago was when Dick explained why he left the club in September 1974.

There was basically zero footage of Dick with the White Sox (Despite yours truly having, for example, BOTH of Dick's inside the park home runs in the same game at Minnesota via WFLD-TV to give one example -- and I offered it to MLB through the Sox if they needed it...)

I am stunned as to how ill prepared and narrow minded Costas was in this rare sit down setting with a guy whom Roland Hemond said, "saved" the White Sox franchise. If it wasn't about his days in Philadelphia, Costas apparently couldn't have cared less.

I was looking forward to this, now I'm simply pissed off.

Lip

I got an interesting response from Jim Katt this morning which I share with you all:

I agree with you..This summer MLB asked me to do a sit down and discuss my time with Dick, who has remained a good friend and help Bob with the research.......I told them...'You should let me do the interview'...They never responded....

Too bad..I think fans would have enjoyed the stories I could have led him into about our White Sox days.....

Jim

Regardless of the reason how you ignore an MVP season is simply beyond comprehension. Bob should have known this whether he prepped for the interview himself or had an assistant do the leg-work. As sharp as he is this is a fundamental question because it was the single greatest season in Dick's career.

Bob Grim, the White Sox Director of Broadcast Operations brought up an interesting point to me this morning too. Bob wondered if Dick specifically told the MLB Network that he'd do the interview but only if the didn't talk about his days with the Sox.

It's possible I guess but highly doubtful. Dick enjoyed his days with the Sox from all of his teammates that I interviewed and I find it hard to believe that Bob Costas a broadcaster with ethics and integrity would agree to do any interview under those preset conditions.

My opinion is simply this...the MLB Network and perhaps Bob himself blew it. Period.

Lip

sox1970
12-16-2009, 11:58 AM
Yeah, it was a waste of time. He's a boring interview.

I'm not sure I would blame Costas. We don't know how it was edited down to an hour show.

VeeckAsInWreck
12-16-2009, 12:07 PM
Much like you guys I was disappointed too. I kept waiting to hear about his White Sox days and it just didn't happen.

I felt like Milhouse when he watched the Itchy and Scratchy and Poochy cartoon. "When are they going to get to the fireworks factory!"

They totally should've had Jim Kaat in the studio to sit by Dick so they could talk about their days on the Sox.

They had Tim McCarver on with Bob Gibson when he got interviewed.

I love MLB Network but they totally struck out on this one.

sox1970
12-16-2009, 12:13 PM
Or how about Goose Gossage? When he was elected to the Hall, he gave Allen a lot credit for helping him break in his rookie year. Should have heard from him.

VeeckAsInWreck
12-16-2009, 12:15 PM
Or how about Goose Gossage? When he was elected to the Hall, he gave Allen a lot credit for helping him break in his rookie year. Should have heard from him.

Good point. Goose was very entertaining when Costas had him Eckerseley, Fingers and Sutter on the show.

Lip Man 1
12-16-2009, 01:30 PM
Roland Hemond weighs in:

Mark –

Margo and I were disappointed that Dick Allen’s White Sox days were glossed over. It would have enhanced Dick Allen’s image and production. It also was incorrect about Allen’s broken fibula. That happened in Anaheim when Mike Epstein crashed into Dick at first base. Dick said he was retiring with 18 games left in the schedule in September 1974. Dick deserved better.

Thanks.
Roland

dickallen15
12-16-2009, 01:32 PM
Good point. Goose was very entertaining when Costas had him Eckerseley, Fingers and Sutter on the show.
Goose was at Soxfest a few years ago. He was awesome.

Noneck
12-16-2009, 01:44 PM
Lip,

I think Grim is totally off base also. Allen was revered here during his days with the Sox and mentioned Tanner with high regards. Costas could have followed up on how the racism that Allen endured changed in a decade by showing when Allen came to the Sox, where he was the toast of the town and even had his own TV show.

I will blame Costas on not doing his homework on this one. It also seems that he cares more about looking intelligent and knowledgeable than doing a true interview. Oh, Bob Elson, I miss you now so much.

VeeckAsInWreck
12-16-2009, 05:02 PM
Here's a little bit of the video.


http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=7145261&topic_id=7417714

TommyJohn
12-16-2009, 05:25 PM
That was a hugely disappointing interview. How do you interview Dick Allen and not mention his years with the White Sox? His MVP year in 1972 was huge. He was the biggest reason the Sox came back from the stink of 1970. I don't know what Costas was thinking or why he wouldn't even attempt to talk about those years. Perhaps, as one person said, we don't know what was edited from the program. Still, I am just baffled. Perhaps Bob knows no one cares about the White Sox, so why bring them up? Maybe it is all part of our punishment for throwing the series in 1919. Damn, I should never have taken that money!

Seriously, any chance Lip can get an interview with Allen and cover what Costas left out?

Lip Man 1
12-16-2009, 05:47 PM
TJ:

Ironically a few weeks before this interview aired I contacted the Phillies (Bob Grim of the White Sox gave me the contact person's name) and sent an e-mail explaining who I was and the material both audio and video that I was willing to give Dick if we could do a phone interview. The Phils alumni rep said he'd pass it along but that Dick rarely does them. Unfortunately I never heard back and am trying to set up an interview with another individual.

Lip

Lip Man 1
12-16-2009, 05:56 PM
Dick Allen from those who knew him best with the White Sox:
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Part I

Pitcher Stan Bahnsen:

ML: 1972 was an amazing season, perhaps none better then by Dick Allen, what was he like as a teammate and as a ballplayer? (Author’s Note: Allen would finish the 1972 season almost winning the Triple Crown. He led the league with 37 home runs, 113 RBI’s, a .603 slugging percentage and 99 walks. He led the Sox with a .308 batting average, drove in 19 game winning runs, stole 19 bases, scored 90 runs and was only .0005 points shy of leading all A.L. first basemen in fielding. He was the leading vote getter for the All Star Team and was awarded the league’s MVP Award that October.)

SB: “I actually thought that Dick was better then his stats. Every time we needed a clutch hit, he got it. He got along great with his teammates and he was very knowledgeable about the game. He was the ultimate team guy.”

“The only folks who seemed to have some issues with Dick were the media. There were times when Dick wouldn’t show up for batting practice and things like that and folks wondered why? Well I asked Dick about that one time and he was right in his reasoning. Dick told me that when he was in a groove, when he was really seeing the ball well, he didn’t want his timing disrupted by seeing 55 mile an hour batting practice pitches… it’s not like you’re going to see that in a game. When Dick was having trouble or wanted to work on something then he’d take BP.”

General Manager Roland Hemond:

ML: Getting Dick Allen then at the 1972 winter meetings was a huge step. It also had a lot of risks. How did you balance the risk/reward factors before making the move? What factor made you decide to pull the trigger? (Author’s Note: Allen was acquired from the Dodgers for pitcher Tommy John and infielder Steve Huntz on December 2, 1971.)

RH: “Acquiring Dick was a daring move. I felt though that Chuck Tanner would be the right manager for him. Chuck is from New Castle, Pennsylvania and Allen was from Wampum, Pennsylvania. Chuck had known Dick and Dick’s mom for years. Allen was one of the most talented players to have ever played the game. We felt he could help us. Then we acquired Stan Bahnsen within a half hour of completing the Allen trade. Those two transactions made a big difference in strengthening the Sox for 1972. If Bill Melton hadn’t suffered a herniated disk operation in mid season, I believe we would have won the pennant in 1972.”

Pitcher Wilbur Wood:

ML: The Sox made great strides from the disaster of 1970 to 1971 but heading into the 1972 season did you expect the team to be as good as it was, even with Dick Allen on board?

WW: “I thought in the spring that we’d have a pretty good team because the guys weren’t selfish. They did what they had to do to win games. I knew that we’d win games but I didn’t know how many. As far as Dick, he made all the difference in the world, he was a tremendous hitter.” (Author’s Note: That strike shortened season saw the Sox win 87 games and finish five and a half games behind the eventual World Champion A’s. Allen would win the league MVP award and narrowly miss winning the Triple Crown. He finished with a .308 batting average, 37 home runs and 113 RBI’s.)

Outfielder Carlos May:

ML: For you, 1971 saw a .294 average, 70 RBI’s and 16 stolen bases. That’s pretty good for a guy known as “Mr. Tank.” I didn’t know you could run that well.

CM: “I wasn’t the fastest guy but I was smart. Dick (Allen) taught me a lot about base running. He’d talk to me a lot about picking up signs from the pitcher, getting a good lead things like that. I never saw him make a mistake on the bases. Chuck told us that we were on our own about running. I was careful when I ran, I didn’t want to run us out of an inning but if I thought I could take the base, I’d go.”

ML: 1972 saw the arrival of Dick Allen and a magical season took place. Let’s start by asking what Dick was like as a player and a teammate?

CM: “We knew each other from spring training and from my brother. He was the best player that I ever saw. I tried to emulate him the way he set pitchers up, the way he ran the bases. He’d be out at the park at 6 am in spring training hitting. He knew the game and he was a leader... guys didn’t sluff off when he was around. In the years that I played with him I saw him get angry twice and they were both because of things that he thought weren’t right as far as playing the game.”

“The first time I think we were in Cleveland, and Pat Kelly was having a bad day. He struck out three times. The next time up he hit a foul pop that the 3rd baseman was chasing and Pat was yelling, ‘catch it, catch it...’ He was mad and he didn’t want to strike out a fourth time. When he got back to the dugout Dick let him have it. He called him a lot of things and I remember him saying that what Pat did, ‘was not professional.”
“The other time was when we got Ron Santo. He was our DH that year. (Author’s Note: 1974) We were in Chicago and it was cold and wet. Dick was hitting 3rd, Bill (Melton) 4th, and Santo 5th. Ron was back in the clubhouse, I don’t know if he was getting loose or doing something but Dick made an out and went back to the dugout. As Dick was sitting down, Ron came out of the tunnel and asked him what the pitcher was throwing. Dick exploded and basically said if he wanted to know what the pitcher was throwing he should have his ass on the bench watching with the rest of us.” Dick was very big when it came to the team and that everyone should be doing everything they can to win games.”

Lip

Lip Man 1
12-16-2009, 05:58 PM
Dick Allen from those who knew him best with the White Sox:
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Part II

Manager Chuck Tanner:

ML: On December 2, 1971 the White Sox made a deal that according to many, including you, ‘saved’ the franchise. The Sox got Dick Allen from the Dodgers for Tommy John and Steve Huntz. How much input did you have in the deal because in many respects it was a gamble?

CT: “Roland and I talked about anything that we were going to do. He came up to me and said ‘I think we can get Dick Allen in a deal, what do you think?’ I said ‘**** I’d take him in a second, he’s a good person and a great player, do the deal.’ And we did. Really it wasn’t a gamble at all.”

ML: Roland Hemond told me that one important reason he made the trade was because of your relationship with Dick and more importantly Dick’s mother. How did you know the Allen family?

CT: “I knew Dick and his family from when he and his younger brothers were little kids. I played ball against his older brother who was a great athlete. The Allen family only lived about twenty minutes from where I lived. I had known Dick for years.”

ML: Chuck I’ve read and I’d like to know if this is true, that Dick was so dissatisfied with baseball, having been traded three times in three years despite great seasons with the Cardinals and Dodgers that he wasn’t sure if he even wanted to play anymore. I’ve heard he showed up in Sarasota and watched from beyond the center field fence for a few days, then discussed things with his mom and that it was his mom who said because of their relationship with you for a number of years, that Dick owed you the benefit of the doubt and he reported.

CT: “I never knew that Dick showed up and was watching us. I got along well with his family and maybe that helped but the biggest reason that I thought we worked well together was because I respected him and his ability. One example was that when we were demonstrating how to get a proper lead off first base I’d say to Dick, ‘you show em how to take the right lead’ and he did. Dick was a natural leader.. he knew exactly how to get the right lead, he never made a mistake on the bases, he played almost every game and had the greatest individual year I ever saw out of any player I ever managed. And all of the young guys that we had on the team respected him and watched every move he made, kids like Dent and Downing and Gossage. (Author’s Note: Allen would finish the 1972 season almost winning the Triple Crown. He led the league with 37 home runs,113 RBI’s, a .603 slugging percentage and 99 walks. He led the Sox with a .308 batting average, drove in 19 game winning runs, stole 19 bases, scored 90 runs and was only .0005 points shy of leading all A.L. first basemen in fielding. He was the leading vote getter for the All Star Team and was awarded the league’s MVP Award that October.)

ML: Dick did some unbelievable things. He hit two inside the park home runs in the same game (Author’s Note: July 31st at Minnesota), bash a ball into the center field bleachers right below the scoreboard (Author’s Note: August 23, 1972) but to me the game that epitomized what the 1972 White Sox were about took place in the second game of a double header versus the Yankees on June 4th. It was the last of the 9th inning, the Sox trailed 4-2, they had two men on base, when you called on Allen to pinch hit. He drilled the third pitch from ‘Sparky’ Lyle into the left center field seats for a White Sox winner. I was sitting in right field and the crowd reaction was incredible. The fans refused to leave the park and I thought I read a comment from you saying that the inside of the Sox locker room was shaking because of the crowd. Take us into the locker room after that hit.

CT: “Dick was our leader and I remember that day very well. Mike Andrews told me what he said to Lyle as he was crossing the infield coming in to pitch. Mike and he were roommates with the Red Sox. Mike said to ‘Sparky’ “you’re in deep **** now.” (Author’s Note: Mike was on first base after he got a single to left center in the 9th inning)

“After the game, after the home run, the fans were so loud, so excited, that you could feel the locker room shake from the vibrations. I’ve never seen that before in my life. When I was in the locker room I looked at Dick and got chills, I still do thinking about it. He was at his locker undressing and to him it was just another day. He did some amazing things.”

“People don’t know how good of a leader Dick was. We decided to send down Jorge Orta for a few weeks that season, because we needed help in another area. George was young, spoke very little English and was devastated because he though he wasn’t going to be brought back up. He was crying, saying in broken English, ‘but I have no money. What will I do?’ Dick walked over to him, gave him fifteen hundred dollars right there and consoled him. The other players were stunned just watching it. That’s what Dick Allen was all about.”

ML: In September 1974 Allen ‘retired’ from the Sox in mid September. For what I understand it was pretty emotional in the clubhouse when he spoke with the team. Did you know that Dick was planning on leaving? Did you try to talk him out of it?

CT: “No, I’d never try to talk a player out of something like that and no I didn’t know ahead of time he was leaving. He just came into my office with his spikes tied together and hung over his shoulder like you used to do as a kid and said, ‘Lefty, that’s it, I’m done.’ I told him that I appreciated how hard he played for me and that I thought he had the greatest year anyone that I managed, ever had. I knew he was really hurting. Dick had a very bad shoulder, he was coming off that broken leg (Author’s Note: Suffered in June 1973 in Anaheim) and he was tired. He was just tired of dealing with things like the media. There were a number of games where he shouldn’t even have been playing but he was out there anyway.”

ML: Dick Allen (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/../rwas/index.php?category=11&id=2065) was a tremendous player but one who may have gotten an unfair rap. Craig Wright who worked for the Rangers when Dick was coaching with that organization in the 80's did a lengthy piece for SABR Magazine. He gave White Sox Interactive permission to reprint it both you and Roland are quoted extensively in the story. You said that “Dick was the greatest player I ever managed and what he did in Chicago was amazing.” You also were very, very supportive of Dick in the story when it was brought to your attention that Bill James, the statistical guy, said he was a “disruptive presence” on a team. Again your reply was “He's full of ****, and you be sure to tell him that." What kind of person was Dick in relationship to his teammates? In Wright’s story everyone that played with Allen said he was a great guy and a leader.

CT: “He was the leader of the team. He taught the kids how to play the game. They loved him, they listened to him. He was the best player I ever had and he should be in the Hall Of Fame. I can’t say enough about the things he did for me and for the team. If ever I got back into managing, I was going to call Dick and ask him to be one of my coaches. He understood the game and the way it’s supposed to be played.”

Lip

Lip Man 1
12-16-2009, 06:01 PM
Dick Allen from those who knew him best with the White Sox:
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Part III

Catcher Ed Herrmann:

ML: 1972 completed the Sox amazing turnaround and a big part of that was the MVP season of Dick Allen. What was he like as a teammate?

EH: "The Sox traded Tommy John for Dick and that was hard for me because I was good friends with him. It was tough until the first day. Bill (Melton) and I came in early and Dick was already in the batting cage. All he was doing was standing in his stance and getting hit by pitches! Bill and I asked what he was doing and Dick said ‘I’m getting used to getting pitched inside.’ Right then I knew this man was serious about winning."

"He was one of the best teammates I ever had. He was always there for you. The other twenty four guys looked at him as the guy who was going to take us to where we wanted to go. No one on the Sox hated him or didn’t get along with him. I sat with him many times on airplanes and he was always great."

"Dick took some criticism because he didn’t always take batting practice. He took it the first month of the season and the last month. The rest of the time he was saving his strength. He also told me that the reason he didn’t usually take BP was because he ‘wanted to come back (to the park) remember the pitches that he saw when he left it.’"

"Dick might have been one of the top four players I ever saw play the game and I saw Mantle, Frank Robinson and those guys. He could run, hit for average, hit for power. The only thing he really couldn’t do well was throw and that was because he had a bad hand."

ML: When Dick did things that year like get two inside the park home runs in the same game or drive a ball into the center field bleachers did you think you were witnessing something that may never happen again?

EH: "At the time I didn’t but then in 1986 or 1987 I saw him at an Old Timers Game in Toronto and realized that he was a very special player. I know Dick came under fire for being different but remember there were twenty five different personalities on the club and Chuck knew how to manage them. Chuck did everything he could to shield Dick, especially at times from the media, when things were getting out of hand. A few times he’d have Dick and I off in a different hotel so that he wouldn’t have to face them."

"There was no reason for Dick to get criticized say for not taking batting practice. Here’s something people don’t know, Chuck would let Wilbur fly home a few times when he wasn’t pitching! Nobody ever said anything about it. Chuck had different rules for different players."

2nd Baseman Mike Andrews:

ML: Let’s go to 1972, a special year for the Sox and my personal favorite for the 42 years that I’ve watched the team. Everyone had high hopes heading into the season, even though it was delayed by the first strike that actually caused games to be cancelled. I don’t think though, that anybody realized the magic that would happen that season and it started with Dick Allen. You saw Allen everyday. How good a player was he?

MA: "Dick was as good if not better then anybody I ever saw. As a pure hitter, his 1972 season was as dominant a performance as I’ve ever seen. (Editor’s Note: Allen would finish the season almost winning the Triple Crown. He led the league with 37 home runs,113 RBI’s, a .603 slugging percentage and 99 walks. He led the Sox with a .308 batting average, drove in 19 game winning runs, stole 19 bases, scored 90 runs and was only .0005 points shy of leading all A.L. first basemen in fielding. He was the leading vote getter for the All Star Team and was awarded the league’s MVP Award that October.) I played with Carl Yastrzemski in 67 and I know the kind of year he had, but part of it was that pitchers were actually giving him good pitches to hit, which I didn’t understand. With Dick, very early in the season, pitchers were saying, we’re not going to let him beat us. They weren’t pitching to him and he still had a great season! I saw many times where Dick would swing at a lot of outside pitches and hit them a long way."

ML: Let’s talk about some specific incidents from that season. This was an incredible moment for me and supposedly you had one of the all time great comments about it. June 4, 1972. The Sox beat the Yankees in the first game of a double header at Comiskey Park. In the second game the Sox are losing in the 9th inning. Bill Melton walks, you rip a single, up the middle as I recall, as I was sitting in the lower deck in right center and Allen walks out to pinch hit for Rich Morales. Yanks manager Ralph Houk brings in your former teammate and roommate "Sparky" Lyle to pitch. The bullpens at that time were located down the lines so when Lyle comes in, he passes close to you standing at first. According to a Sports Illustrated story in 1990 on the closing of the original Comiskey Park you supposedly said ‘hey Sparky! You’re in deep **** now!’ True?

MA: "True. (laughing) Both Sparky and I were carefree spirits and I said that. I may have been responding to something Sparky said to me but I don’t remember."

ML: To make a long story short, Allen rips the third pitch almost dead on a line into the left center field seats to win the game. You guys mobbed him at home plate and the fans went berserk. They refused to leave the park. Chuck Tanner was quoted as saying that everyone could feel the cheers inside the Sox locker room, it was so loud. Had you even been around that kind of fan enthusiasm?

MA: "I did when the Red Sox won the pennant in 67. But it was so exciting to see what was happening with the White Sox. The evolution of it all. Sox fans hadn’t seen a good team for a few years, it had been a long time. We were drawing huge crowds and the fans were absolutely great."

ML: You talk about rare occurrences, on July 31st at old Metropolitan Stadium in Minnesota, Allen belted two inside the park home runs off Bert Blyleven in an 8-1 win. Both shots went over the head of Twins center fielder Danny Darwin.

MA: "That’s right, I had forgotten about that. Dick could run, he had tremendous baseball instincts and he stole nineteen bases that year. I had been around Yaz, who worked harder then anybody I ever saw, but Dick was a natural athlete. One time, the Sox were getting criticized because Allen was showing up almost right before game time. It might have been a newspaper guy. Tanner said to him ‘If a guy can hit 40 homers, drive in over a hundred runs and hit over .300, he can show up right before game time!"

ML: Finally on August 23rd, I was sitting in the center field bleachers right near where Harry Caray was broadcasting the game from. New York was in town again and late in the game, Allen hit a blast off Lindy McDaniel. It sounded like a cannon shot. The ball wound up landing about ten feet from Caray who was going crazy. He almost caught the ball in his net. I’ll never forget looking down at the Yanks center fielder, it may have been Bobby Murcer, as he was hitting the wall and the ball was still going up! Just an unbelievable blast! What were you thinking in the dugout?

MA: "I wasn’t as shocked because I remember reading in The Sporting News when Dick was still in Philly, that he hit like eighteen of his twenty home runs between the 380 signs at Shibe Park. He could hit balls a long way. Dick was such a great player but I always feared that he would lose interest and that’s what happened. He loved to play the game but he wasn’t really comfortable with some of the peripheral things associated with baseball, like having to deal with the media."

ML: The Sox hung right with the A’s until mid September and they finished five games out. But I’m sure you guys still thought you could win the division.

MA: "We thought we were. I remember sitting next to Dick Allen on a road trip, I think we were either coming from or going to Texas and we talked about it. Oakland had to go to Detroit and play a couple of double headers. We thought they’d split or maybe lose three of four and we could catch them. But they won them all."

Lip

Noneck
12-16-2009, 06:41 PM
Lip,

With all the resources Costas has and he couldn't find anyone to talk about Allen during his Sox days but you talked to how many? Hes just a slug.

Lip Man 1
12-17-2009, 11:17 AM
Ed Sherman checks in on this today in his column:

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/article.pl?page_id=2317&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3af5555513-c950-4657-a93a-80db16fdf4adPost%3a285665a2-2558-43b6-8b89-217d71cf461c&sid=sitelife.chicagobusiness.com

Lip

chisoxfanatic
12-24-2009, 09:38 PM
I just watched a couple hours of the MLB Network tonight, and they had a couple interesting shows.

At 7, they had a show dedicated to looking back at the 2009 season for the American League. Buehrle's perfecto was included in the "top moments," finishing as a runner-up to the Yankees winning the WS. Konerko also made it as one of the top plays at 1st base (run-saving horizontal leaping catch at home against the Yankees).

At 8, they had a show dedicated to the Top 9 games of 2009. Buehrle's perfect game was ranked the #3 game of the season on their hour-long special of the top 9 games of 2009.

Hitmen77
12-31-2009, 10:24 AM
This isn't on MLB Network, but for upcoming Sox-related programming TCM will be showing the Monty Stratton Story tomorrow morning at 11:15.

http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title.jsp?stid=2064

Lip Man 1
01-06-2010, 12:28 PM
Just FYI. On the MLB Network Wednesday night January 6th, "MLB Seasons" will look back at 1959.

It will be interesting to see what film they may have on the Sox from that year.

Lip

Lip Man 1
01-06-2010, 08:24 PM
Just FYI. On the MLB Network Wednesday night January 13th, "MLB Seasons" will look back at 1967, the greatest pennant race in baseball history.

It will be interesting to see what film they may have on the Sox from that year.

Lip

DSpivack
01-07-2010, 11:20 PM
Buehrle's perfecto will be on Sunday, at 4:30pm I think it said.

TommyJohn
01-15-2010, 11:20 AM
Watched both "1959" and some of "1967." Good stuff on both years. 1967 showed mostly the Red Sox of course, but they showed some White Sox bits, includind a shot of Gary Peters (I think it was from that year's All-Star Game), Eddie Stanky, and the Tartabull-to-Howard double play that nailed Ken Berry.

1959 was a great episode, they talked about how the Sox had spent the decade constantly behind the Yankees, and how 1959 was expected to be the same thing. They made one error-they mentioned that Veeck brought the exploding scoreboard to Comiskey Park, making it seem as if he did it in 1959. We all know that it was 1960. Rich Lindberg and Bob Vanderberg also got some screen time. Bob Vanderberg actually looks a little scary. I hope he is doing fine after being let go by the Trib.

In all, both were good episodes. I hope they are run again so I could record them. (should've done it the first time.)

kruzer31
02-06-2010, 11:01 PM
Buehrle's perfecto will be on Sunday, at 4:30pm I think it said.



Can't wait to watch

JEFF

Giv20
02-15-2010, 11:25 AM
2005 World Series games being shown this week.
Game 1 today @ 1:00
Game 2 Tuesday @1:00
Game 3 Wednesday @ 12:00
Game 4 Thursday @ 1:00

october23sp
02-18-2010, 03:06 PM
White Sox 0
Astros 0

Game 4 Bottom of the 7th

ChiSoxGal85
02-18-2010, 04:04 PM
Watched all four games this week. It never, never, never gets old.

:chicago

Foulke You
03-02-2010, 10:14 PM
Not sure if this has been posted but MLB Network is showing the Sox first Spring Training game this week against the Angels. It will be on tape delay at 11PM.

Lip Man 1
04-05-2010, 01:03 AM
Just saw a part of the MLBN "prediction" show for the 2010 season.

Of the nine baseball 'experts", six pick the Sox to win the division including Harold Reynolds, Al Leiter, John Smoltz, Barry Larkin and Dan Plesac (can't remember who the sixth one was...). Two picked Detroit (Sean Casey and Mitch Williams) and one (Tom Verducci) picked the Twins.

Verducci was incredulous that he was the only one picking Minnesota.

Lip

doublem23
04-07-2010, 02:12 PM
Just an FYI, every episode of MLB Network's 30 Clubs in 30 Days is available On Demand complimentary to everyone, even if you don't have MLB Network. Can't find it in HD, but it was a good watch.

I have Comcast cable, so I don't know if this exists on other carriers.

FielderJones
04-07-2010, 04:17 PM
Just an FYI, every episode of MLB Network's 30 Clubs in 30 Days is available On Demand complimentary to everyone, even if you don't have MLB Network. Can't find it in HD, but it was a good watch.

I have Comcast cable, so I don't know if this exists on other carriers.

And if you don't have cable at all, you can always watch online (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7241245&topic_id=8187248).

Hitmen77
04-08-2010, 04:39 PM
Just an FYI, every episode of MLB Network's 30 Clubs in 30 Days is available On Demand complimentary to everyone, even if you don't have MLB Network. Can't find it in HD, but it was a good watch.

I have Comcast cable, so I don't know if this exists on other carriers.

:thumbsup:Thanks for the tip! I wasn't home the week it was on and forget to set it to record on my DVR.

It looks like these shows will be available on Comcast's On Demand until April 20.

Hitmen77
06-13-2010, 03:35 PM
This isn't Sox-specific, but MLB Network is running a 2 hour show on Monday evening (6PM Central) about the 20 perfect games in MLB history.

Of course, this will include the two hurled by Sox pitchers: Charlie Robertson in 1922 and Mark Buehrle in 2009.