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Sockinchisox
12-03-2008, 01:59 PM
John Perroto over at BP says there are rumors that the Sox and Mets are working on a blockbuster deal that would send Jenks and Dye to the Mets for a package that includes Fernando Martinez.

http://www.faketeams.com/2008/12/3/678817/mlb-trade-rumors-jermaine

ShoelessJoeS
12-03-2008, 02:00 PM
Old news??

hi im skot
12-03-2008, 02:01 PM
FMart!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marqhead
12-03-2008, 02:04 PM
FMart!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rolling::rolling::rolling:

btrain929
12-03-2008, 02:07 PM
Well Dye has a NTC to the Mets, so that's the first stumbling block. And 2nd, we better get a ****load more than Martinez in return. Murphy, Carp, Niese, Pelfrey, Kunz, etc (not all of them, just some names that would be worthy of inclusion). If we landed Pelfrey, he would be the perfect replacement for Javy. Only problem is 2009 is the last year of his current contract, and Boras is his agent :angry:. But because of service time, I don't think he'd be a free agent, I think we'd do arbitration with him.

JermaineDye05
12-03-2008, 02:09 PM
I find it hard to believe a trade rumor from a site called "faketeams.com"

soltrain21
12-03-2008, 02:11 PM
I find it hard to believe a trade rumor from a site called "faketeams.com"


Even though it's another source?

wsgdf
12-03-2008, 02:12 PM
FWIW - Baseball Prospectus is the source of the rumor.

hi im skot
12-03-2008, 02:15 PM
I find it hard to believe a trade rumor from a site called "faketeams.com"

Even though it's another source?

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j146/sschaaf/VW-OhSnap.gif

NLaloosh
12-03-2008, 02:16 PM
That trade would suck. FMart could easily be a bust. I don't think the Sox should package both of those guys to the Mets. They don't have enough great prospects to get it done.

If the Sox sent both to the mets they better be getting someone back named Reyes, Beltran or Wright.

kittle42
12-03-2008, 02:17 PM
Well, if this goes down and we don't end up signing several big free agents, I officially go into hyper-depressive mode about 2009.

JermaineDye05
12-03-2008, 02:18 PM
Even though it's another source?

I rarely follow trade rumors no matter what the source. Rarely does whatever is rumored happen. The Braves one was an exception, I think it was reported 2 weeks ago that the Sox were talking to the Braves about Javy. Usually Kenny pulls off trades that no one expected.

NLaloosh
12-03-2008, 02:19 PM
I think a fair trade would be Dye and Jenks for Pelfrey,FMart and Heilman.

soltrain21
12-03-2008, 02:20 PM
That trade would suck. FMart could easily be a bust. I don't think the Sox should package both of those guys to the Mets. They don't have enough great prospects to get it done.

If the Sox sent both to the mets they better be getting someone back named Reyes, Beltran or Wright.

That isn't going to happen. We might be able to get Beltran out of them. Maybe.

hi im skot
12-03-2008, 02:22 PM
That trade would suck. FMart could easily be a bust. I don't think the Sox should package both of those guys to the Mets. They don't have enough great prospects to get it done.

:bandance:


If the Sox sent both to the mets they better be getting someone back named Reyes, Beltran or Wright.

Yeah, uh...prepare to be disappointed.

esbrechtel
12-03-2008, 02:23 PM
I dont see this happening...but I have been wrong before and will probably be wrong again. I just don't understand trading one of the only really solid arms you have in the pen. I would not want to turn into the '08 St. Louis Cardnials. Or even the 08 sox when Bobby was down...

NLaloosh
12-03-2008, 02:27 PM
Would it be a blockbuster because Kenny got 10 prospects back in return? Prospects 10 thru 20 in their system?

russ99
12-03-2008, 02:31 PM
I think a fair trade would be Dye and Jenks for Pelfrey,FMart and Heilman.

Give us a major league outfielder instead of Heilman, I'd go for it. Maybe Church or Chavez... We'd probably need to add a good prospect to get that to work, though.

soltrain21
12-03-2008, 02:32 PM
Would it be a blockbuster because Kenny got 10 prospects back in return? Prospects 10 thru 20 in their system?


We are hearing Martinez, so I guess 10-20 is out of the picture, now isn't it?

DSpivack
12-03-2008, 02:37 PM
Would it be a blockbuster because Kenny got 10 prospects back in return? Prospects 10 thru 20 in their system?

Since they're losing business to NetFlix, Blockbuster would actually sponsor the trade.

hi im skot
12-03-2008, 02:40 PM
Since they're losing business to NetFlix, Blockbuster would actually sponsor the trade.

:rolling:

NLaloosh
12-03-2008, 03:12 PM
Give us a major league outfielder instead of Heilman, I'd go for it. Maybe Church or Chavez... We'd probably need to add a good prospect to get that to work, though.

I agree. I think it would be worth acquring Church.

soxfan43
12-03-2008, 03:14 PM
I agree. I think it would be worth acquring Church.

Why? He's nothing special.

Domeshot17
12-03-2008, 03:21 PM
What use would Church or Heilman be to us. Church maybe, but he could just as easily be a one hit wonder, Heilman, please, hes a mediocre RP so built up on his own hype he is demanding to start. We already have 5 starters better than him.

To me, Dye for Bailey and keeping Jenks is much better then Dye and Jenks for Fernando Martinez and a bunch of **** prospects like Murphy. Put Pelfrey in the deal and maybe, but I just assume keep Jenks for another year until we know Poreda is going to take over closing. We don't have 1 other pitcher on this team capable of closing. Linebrink and Dotel have sucked their entire careers when given the chance, and Thornton is far too streaky. I know we like Link a lot, but Bobby is one of the top 5 closers in baseball.

WhiteSoxFan84
12-03-2008, 03:22 PM
i dont know poop about fernando so ill ask you, my well-informed fellow sox fans: who would you rather have: carlos gomez or fernando martinez?

DSpivack
12-03-2008, 03:34 PM
i dont know poop about fernando so ill ask you, my well-informed fellow sox fans: who would you rather have: carlos gomez or fernando martinez?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ohr4P8E_io

WhiteSoxFan84
12-03-2008, 03:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ohr4P8E_io

.... thanks.

DSpivack
12-03-2008, 03:37 PM
i dont know poop about fernando so ill ask you, my well-informed fellow sox fans: who would you rather have: carlos gomez or fernando martinez?

.... thanks.

Gomez sucks. Don't know why anyone would want him.

areilly
12-03-2008, 03:38 PM
That trade would suck. FMart could easily be a bust.

This has to stop.

WhiteSoxFan84
12-03-2008, 04:21 PM
Gomez sucks. Don't know why anyone would want him.

well it sounds like kenny williams wants him. but he can't have the actual carlos gomez so he's going after fernando martinez who might be his twin? thats why i asked what i asked earlier.

NardiWasHere
12-03-2008, 05:42 PM
I'm looking through the Mets' forum that is linked to in the "Talking Baseball" thread....


They are calling Jenks a setup man... :?:

WhiteSoxFan84
12-04-2008, 12:13 AM
I'm looking through the Mets' forum that is linked to in the "Talking Baseball" thread....


They are calling Jenks a setup man... :?:

yeh, for billy wagner.
those guys are idiots. they're not cubs fans bad, but theyre bad.

soltrain21
12-04-2008, 01:11 AM
yeh, for billy wagner.
those guys are idiots. they're not cubs fans bad, but theyre bad.


Because no one here ever overrates their team's players.

wulfy
12-04-2008, 10:20 AM
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spmets045951570dec04,0,3033188.story?track=rss

Mets officials call it nonsense:
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2008/12/3_up_putz_made.html

kittle42
12-04-2008, 11:42 AM
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spmets045951570dec04,0,3033188.story?track=rss

Mets officals call it nonsense:
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2008/12/3_up_putz_made.html

Thank goodness for that much.

PalehosePlanet
12-04-2008, 01:46 PM
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-spmets045951570dec04,0,3033188.story?track=rss

Mets officials call it nonsense:
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2008/12/3_up_putz_made.html

I like the way the writer of the article implies that it would be easier to acquire JJ Putz. As if the Mets wouldn't have to give up much to get him. Yeah okay...what a bunch of bull****.