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PKalltheway
10-26-2008, 11:04 PM
Well, the Rays' backs are against the wall now that they are down 3 games to 1. It'll be a tall order for them to try to beat Hamels tomorrow. They'll really need Kazmir to be at the top of his game.

Only 5 teams in World Series history have come back from a 3-1 defecit to win it all (1925 Pirates, 1958 Yankees, 1968 Tigers, 1979 Pirates, 1985 Royals). Can the Rays be the 6th team to do it, or are they toast?

IMHO, they are toast. Hamels has looked damn near unstoppable this postseason, and as the old saying goes, momentum is only as good as your next day's starting pitcher. Hamels is pretty good.

chisoxmike
10-26-2008, 11:07 PM
Rays are toast.

chisoxfanatic
10-26-2008, 11:11 PM
CAN they come back? You better believe it!
WILL they come back? Hell no!

GoGoCrede
10-26-2008, 11:16 PM
I was going to say yes, then learned that Hamels is pitching for Philly. He has been lights out so far.

Soxman219
10-26-2008, 11:32 PM
Phillies = 2008 World Series Champs

I'm glad that they are in position of winning because their fans deserve it. I can't support a bandwagon fanbase, I just can't.

RadioheadRocks
10-26-2008, 11:33 PM
Hate to say it, but they're toast.

BleacherBandit
10-26-2008, 11:40 PM
Ah, I love it. After this World Series ends, I can stop thinking about it just like I did for the '92,'93,'95,'97,'98,'99,'00,'01,'02,'03,'04,'06 and '07 World Series. (These were the world series I actually payed attention to and watched, but didn't care about.)

Frankfan4life
10-27-2008, 01:36 AM
CAN they come back? You better believe it!
WILL they come back? Hell no!I couldn't have said it better. The media darlings have failed to impress in the World Series. Maybe those cowbells have given them all headaches. Ding, Dong!

SoxSpeed22
10-27-2008, 01:48 AM
Crazier things have happened, but not this time. The Phillies are playing much better, with Howard and Rollins snapping out of it. Their starting pitchers have done the job. Pena and Longoria have not made the adjustments. The Rays also look Detroit-esque defensively.
Philadelphia, at least the major sports, will finally have something to celebrate tomorrow.

RadioheadRocks
10-27-2008, 02:00 AM
Crazier things have happened, but not this time. The Phillies are playing much better, with Howard and Rollins snapping out of it. Their starting pitchers have done the job. Pena and Longoria have not made the adjustments. The Rays also look Detroit-esque defensively.


Hehhehheh, we might have to dust off the Britney Spears clip art for that! One of my favorite moments from the '06 series was when they played "Oops I Did It Again" when they broke for commercial after that Zumaya throwing error.

EuroSox35
10-27-2008, 04:02 AM
I think they'll take Game 5 but ultimately lose the WS, probably in 7

SOXSINCE'70
10-27-2008, 09:24 AM
I'm sure many have said it already,but I will say it again;

Cole Hamels is on the mound for game 5.The Phils certainly don't want to go back to Tampa for a game 6.They haven't won a
World Series in 28 years.If they are smart,tonight they go for the jugular vein and end it. GO PHILS!!!!

I think tonight's game will be a tough one,but the Phils will prevail,winning by 1 or 2 runs.The Phils have been almost unbeatable in this situation the
last several weeks.It helps when your team's bullpen succeeds 9 out of 10 times they are asked to hold a lead or a tie.

hi im skot
10-27-2008, 09:53 AM
Sure, they can. They won't though.

Rockabilly
10-27-2008, 09:58 AM
The baseball season will end tonight...

white sox bill
10-27-2008, 10:00 AM
Phils are pretty much there...that being said, am I the only one with any American League loyalty here? I like the idea of a what $45 million payroll winning. That and Joe Madden glasses crack me up!! But I like Charlie Manuel as well

esbrechtel
10-27-2008, 10:06 AM
Their lack of inexperience will hurt them in this game.....altough you can never underestimate speed in close games. When upton scored after an infield hit, 2 stolen bases and an error anything can happen. If the Phils get ahead (by at least 3) early its over.

turners56
10-27-2008, 03:17 PM
If the Phils win tonight. The past four World Series will go like this.

2005: AL sweep
2006: NL wins 4-1
2007: AL sweep
2008: NL wins 4-1

I'd like to think the Rays still have a chance, but I think they're done.

GoGoCrede
10-27-2008, 03:42 PM
I am not invested in either team, but if the Phillies are going to win out, it's great that they have the chance to do it tonight in front of their fans. Nothing can be sweeter than that.

hellview
10-27-2008, 03:43 PM
I hope not, the quicker this is over the quicker the offseason can begin.

FedEx227
10-27-2008, 03:45 PM
Hamels is on the bump, they are toast.

doublem23
10-27-2008, 03:49 PM
If they can squeek past Hamels tonight, they get Crazy Brett Myers and Old Balls Moyer at the Trop, so it's not definitively over yet.

That said, they're not going to get past Cole Hamels. It's over.

whitesox901
10-27-2008, 03:59 PM
Phillies = 2008 World Series Champs

I'm glad that they are in position of winning because their fans deserve it. I can't support a bandwagon fanbase, I just can't.

Another curse reversed

Fenway
10-27-2008, 05:44 PM
If they get back to St Pete they will win it

BUT that is a big IF

Boondock Saint
10-27-2008, 06:13 PM
If they can squeek past Hamels tonight, they get Crazy Brett Myers and Old Balls Moyer at the Trop, so it's not definitively over yet.

That said, they're not going to get past Cole Hamels. It's over.

That's pretty much my thinking now. I said the Rays would take it in 6 or 7, but I also said that they won't beat Hamels. They still won't. Phils take it tonight.

Red Barchetta
10-27-2008, 06:59 PM
Phillies = 2008 World Series Champs

I'm glad that they are in position of winning because their fans deserve it. I can't support a bandwagon fanbase, I just can't.

Any fanbase that had to endure 10,000 plus losses over their storied history does deserve at least two world championships along the way.

However growing up, I was a big Mike Schmidt fan and the Philadelphia fans were merciless to him. He was one of the first modern multi-millionaire contract players and they boo'd him after he won two consecutive MVP awards and a World Series championship. He hurt his back playing on that horrible carpet they used at the Vet during his attempt at a 3rd consecutive MVP season and tried to play through it. He buried the hatchet during his HOF acceptance speech, however I always thought they lived up to their well deserved reputation as the worst fans in sports.

As to the Rays, I agee the "I can't name five players on the Rays" bandwagon has run it's course. The Tampa Bay area Sports Authorities are going to have a fire sale on all the Rays gear they stocked up on. :D:

JermaineDye05
10-27-2008, 07:14 PM
If the Phils win tonight. The past four World Series will go like this.

2005: AL sweep
2006: NL wins 4-1
2007: AL sweep
2008: NL wins 4-1

I'd like to think the Rays still have a chance, but I think they're done.

2009: White Sox sweep :cool:

chisoxmike
10-27-2008, 07:19 PM
2009: White Sox sweep :cool:

:bandance:

doublem23
10-27-2008, 10:37 PM
Well now, this is some interesting ****.

Are the games in Florida going to get pushed back a day? If they do, can Hamels go in Game 7? If not, I don't necessarily like Philly's chances with Myers and Moyer at the Trop.

BTW, this would be a very Philadelphia-esque way to blow it.

TheOldRoman
10-27-2008, 11:00 PM
Well now, this is some interesting ****.

Are the games in Florida going to get pushed back a day? If they do, can Hamels go in Game 7? If not, I don't necessarily like Philly's chances with Myers and Moyer at the Trop.

BTW, this would be a very Philadelphia-esque way to blow it.From what they are saying on ESPN, they might not be able to get the game in tomorrow, either. Kruk just said it is going to be in the 20s with snow tomorrow. :o:

In 2006, game 4 in St. Louis was rained out. Game 4 was played the next day (Thurs), and game 5 was pushed back to Friday. At that time, the plan was for games 6 and 7 to be played Saturday and Sunday. They look at it as the off day getting moved up.

I agree with you that this helps the Rays a lot. Hamels is knocked out, and the game is tied. The Phils had to burn their best pitcher. If the Rays win game 5, they go back home and have the pitching advantage (assuming Hamels doesn't pitch game 7).

StillMissOzzie
10-28-2008, 12:08 AM
I was going to say yes, then learned that Hamels is pitching for Philly. He has been lights out so far.
Unless Hamels can come back out tomorrow, hope is alive...

The baseball season will end tonight...
Whooops!

Hamels is on the bump, they are toast.
Whooops!

Now if only Longoria and Upton can finally show up...

SMO
:gulp:

doublem23
10-28-2008, 01:25 AM
:rolleyes:

Calling people out over this? That was one of the most bizarre World Series games, maybe ever.

Lame.

palehozenychicty
10-29-2008, 10:47 AM
IF the Rays play tonight and pull it out, the Phils are in trouble. They did get Hamels out....