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CubsfansareDRUNK
10-18-2008, 05:31 PM
I just read a great article in the Elmhurst Press that talks about the founding of WSI and the creation of a White Sox fan base here in the suburbs. Unfortunately, I was unable to find the article online but if any of you are able to get a hold of the Press I highly encourage you to read it.

BleacherBandit
10-18-2008, 06:00 PM
I just read a great article in the Elmhurst Press that talks about the founding of WSI and the creation of a White Sox fan base here in the suburbs. Unfortunately, I was unable to find the article online but if any of you are able to get a hold of the Press I highly encourage you to read it.

Maybe we could get them to get an online copy for us, since this is WSI, hehe.

Nellie_Fox
10-19-2008, 12:15 AM
I just read a great article in the Elmhurst Press that talks about the founding of WSI and the creation of a White Sox fan base here in the suburbs. Despite the revisionist history that would tell you that Chicago has "always been a Cubs town," there was a White Sox fan base in the suburbs long before there was a WSI.

Brian26
10-19-2008, 10:27 AM
Despite the revisionist history that would tell you that Chicago has "always been a Cubs town," there was a White Sox fan base in the suburbs long before there was a WSI.

I haven't read the article, and the OP's comments are vague, but if the author of the article is implying that WSI created a suburban White Sox fan base, that's just incredibly ignorant journalism.

DrCrawdad
10-19-2008, 11:33 AM
I just read a great article in the Elmhurst Press that talks about the founding of WSI and the creation of a White Sox fan base here in the suburbs. Unfortunately, I was unable to find the article online but if any of you are able to get a hold of the Press I highly encourage you to read it.

Thanks for the heads up.

BTW Carlos Vasquez is a Sox minor leaguer, Red Sox that is.

ode to veeck
10-19-2008, 12:52 PM
Despite the revisionist history that would tell you that Chicago has "always been a Cubs town," there was a White Sox fan base in the suburbs long before there was a WSI.

absolutely and shame on reinsey for ever saying chicago's always been a cubs town

Lip Man 1
10-19-2008, 06:04 PM
Especially since JR has been living in Chicago full time since 1957 and should know better...a LOT better!

The Cubs couldn't get arrested in Chicago during the 50's and early 60's.

Lip

champagne030
10-19-2008, 06:58 PM
As someone who was raised in Elmhurst, please tell me PHG isn't a York Dork. :redneck

TornLabrum
10-19-2008, 10:11 PM
As someone who was raised in Elmhurst, please tell me PHG isn't a York Dork. :redneck

PHG is originally from Da Heights.

Procol Harum
10-20-2008, 08:53 AM
Despite the revisionist history that would tell you that Chicago has "always been a Cubs town," there was a White Sox fan base in the suburbs long before there was a WSI.

Yeah, but it might be a news bulletin in Elmhurst--taught hs there for 4 years and there was a whole lot of Cub love there in the mid-80s--most of the Sox fans I taught were from Hillside or Melrose...

white sox bill
10-20-2008, 09:17 AM
To those in the Elmhurst area question....Is there a fairly large fanbase in the area? More than neighboring cities?

There is a reason I'm asking. Maybe its a conspiracy theory:smile:! Tell you later

SOXPHILE
10-20-2008, 10:26 AM
Pre-1984, (Espically in 1977 & 1983) I seem to recall a pretty strong White Sox fan base in the suburbs. It's not like there wasn't any Cubs fans either. It just seemed pretty evenly split. From 1984 on is when this whole frat-boy/trixie/yuppie-tourist thing really took off, and the myth of "there's no Sox fans in the 'burbs" thing began. Bad journalism.

viagracat
10-20-2008, 10:29 AM
Especially since JR has been living in Chicago full time since 1957 and should know better...a LOT better!

The Cubs couldn't get arrested in Chicago during the 50's and early 60's.

Lip

I too can remember when Chicago was at least modestly a Sox town, although that hasn't been the case since the 1960s.

I'm doing all I can to get Northwest Chicagoland over from the dark side. :cool:

white sox bill
10-20-2008, 11:37 AM
To those in the Elmhurst area question....Is there a fairly large fanbase in the area? More than neighboring cities?

There is a reason I'm asking. Maybe its a conspiracy theory:smile:! Tell you later
Reason I was asking is because my Dad, who I can thank for my Sox allegiance, was originally from the Buffalo NY area. For whatever reason and after serving in the Army, he attended and graduated from Elmhurst College. It was there I assumed he became a Sox fan as opposed to the Blue Flu fan. That was in the 40's when there seemed to be many more Sox fans in that area

jackbrohamer
10-20-2008, 11:50 AM
To those in the Elmhurst area question....Is there a fairly large fanbase in the area? More than neighboring cities?

There is a reason I'm asking. Maybe its a conspiracy theory:smile:! Tell you later

I don't know how it is now. But going to grammar and high school there in the 1970s, there were way more Cub fans my age than Sox fans at least among those that I went to school with. I never understood why.

whitesox901
10-20-2008, 11:58 AM
I too can remember when Chicago was at least modestly a Sox town, although that hasn't been the case since the 1960s.

I'm doing all I can to get Northwest Chicagoland over from the dark side. :cool:

Im working over NW Ohio & SE Michigan :D:

35th&Shields
10-20-2008, 04:18 PM
absolutely and shame on reinsey for ever saying chicago's always been a cubs town

Reinsdorf has long said that he wanted to move the Sox to the suburbs because that is where the Sox's fan base is located after flight out of the city. I didn't read the article, but I'd be surprised if Reinsdorf said that there weren't Sox fans in the suburbs.

PaleHoseGeorge
10-21-2008, 07:51 AM
Reinsdorf has long said that he wanted to move the Sox to the suburbs because that is where the Sox's fan base is located after flight out of the city. I didn't read the article, but I'd be surprised if Reinsdorf said that there weren't Sox fans in the suburbs.

The columnist's name is Jerry Moore, a former south sider. He contacted me for some quotes to add to his column about DuPage County being overrun with Cubs fans. As founder of WSI, he figured my opinion on the subject was relevant. Can't imagine why...
:tongue:

The historical element to the topic is completely missing from the article -- this was strictly tongue in cheek material -- so anyone getting upset should calm down. I think it's noteworthy that if Jerry Reinsdorf had his way 20 years ago, the White Sox would be playing in neighboring Addison today.

For the record, here is the only quote I provided on the subject of Cubs fans in DuPage County... "There aren't many safe havens from Cub-dumb anywhere around Chicago. I don't see DuPage County as very different from any other collar county requiring Sox fans to demonstrate forbearance from Lovable Loser silliness."

I could easily have added that I travel a lot in my work allowing me an opportunity to learn quite a bit about neighbhorhoods throughout the city, suburbs and state, and the only places I'm ever surprised to observe Cub fan silliness is Beverly, Mount Greenwood, and Oak Lawn. Chicago is far more heterogeneous than we would like to think.

I also could have noted that I met ex-Bears Dan Hampton earlier this month and he volunteered that his program director at the sportsblab radio station corrected Dan on how much emphasis he should place on the Sox during his daily radio show. Even though they are the Sox radio flagship, Dan was told 70 percent of the audience is Cubs fans. Based on what I see out there, that's just about right. Dan agreed with me that the percentage is definitely tilting more towards the Sox of late.

Mostly Jerry's column was about WSI and what a unique place it is for Sox Fans to enjoy, surprisingly started from a "beachhead" in Elmhurst, Illinois. White Sox Interactive as Omaha Beach in the quest to defeat Evil? I admit I like the imagery!

:thumbsup:

SoxandtheCityTee
10-21-2008, 08:11 AM
Very interesting. I think the supposed 70 percent of the radio audience for that station could (and from what I see does) underrepresent the Sox fandom in the population here generally. Fewer younger fans -- where I see the Sox picking up market share, especially here in the city and in the NW burbs, where I have family -- listen to radio to begin with; some Sox fans, like me, avoid listening to that station except for Sox games, and a bit of the pre and post game shows. If the station's program director doesn't want us, that's on him. He'll get what he asks for, and good luck to him and his advertisers.

Thanks for the insight, PHG.

white sox bill
10-21-2008, 08:16 AM
Any linky George?

Milw
10-27-2008, 01:57 PM
Elmhurst is majority Cubs, although not by a great margin. Go a little further west, though, into Villa Park/Lombard/Addison and it's heavily pro-Sox, I'd say to the tune of 70-30...

BigKlu59
11-02-2008, 09:26 PM
:geezer: Way to go George.... From a "Nort" Lake boy bloodying the noses of Cubbie nitwits growin up in the 60's, its good to hear the "Hurst" gettin some love for West Burb Sox Support. You naughty boy...How dare you set up covert operations at Stipaks:cool: I can tell ya some stories about runnin into some of the old Black Hawks there...

What do those pinheads expect... I gather alot of our folks moved up and out of the city Post War to the sticks along with Ike's Super Highway system. We are all over the place.

I'll never forget when I moved to Philly. Everybody and their Brother assumed I was a Cubbie fan.. When I told em I was a Sox fan they would get this puzzled look on their faces. Best time I had was when I'd go to a bar and run into a grizzled old A's fan and we'd talk "real" baseball..

Keep up the great work... This site is the best...simply Par excellence.

Big Klu