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NLaloosh
10-09-2008, 11:30 AM
If it were up to you, which of these 3 players would you have start for the Sox next year? You can only choose one(hopefully the Sox do the same).

GoGoCrede
10-09-2008, 11:33 AM
BA, because if he doesn't, he indicated on his blog that he's outta here. His goal is to play CF full-time. And I think I'd miss BA.

NLaloosh
10-09-2008, 11:42 AM
I voted BA as well. Although, I considered voting none of the above.

getonbckthr
10-09-2008, 11:45 AM
I voted for Brian. I feel Clayton should be an option as well.

jabrch
10-09-2008, 11:50 AM
BA, because if he doesn't, he indicated on his blog that he's outta here. His goal is to play CF full-time. And I think I'd miss BA.

Did he indicate on his blog that he has no control over where he is and isn't for the next 4 years?

jabrch
10-09-2008, 11:51 AM
I voted for Brian. I feel Clayton should be an option as well.

Agreed on Clayton. Either as the 5th starter, or an arm in the pen, Clayton earned a spot next year.

WhiteSox5187
10-09-2008, 11:57 AM
Richard is probably most deserving, but I'd feel comfortable if BA put up Uribe like numbers in the nine spot with his defense in CF.

SOXPHILE
10-09-2008, 11:58 AM
BA, because if he doesn't, he indicated on his blog that he's outta here. His goal is to play CF full-time. And I think I'd miss BA.

And just what has Brian Anderson done to merit saying that he's "outta here" if he doesn't get more playing time ? Yes, he's a very good defensive outfielder, but, even though he's not the automatic out when he bats like in 2006, the hitting still leaves much to be desired.

oeo
10-09-2008, 12:01 PM
And just what has Brian Anderson done to merit saying that he's "outta here" if he doesn't get more playing time ? Yes, he's a very good defensive outfielder, but, even though he's not the automatic out when he bats like in 2006, the hitting still leaves much to be desired.

He didn't even say that. He said his goal is to be an everyday centerfielder, whether that's for the White Sox or another team.

And well, we all have goals. I hope he's back next year, but Kenny has traded guys before to keep them happy.

GlassSox
10-09-2008, 12:09 PM
I would like to see Brian get more playing time and I believe he would develop. I think he grew up this year. His defense is pretty good and with more at bats his hitting should get better. I see more discilpline at the plate.

GoGoCrede
10-09-2008, 12:09 PM
And just what has Brian Anderson done to merit saying that he's "outta here" if he doesn't get more playing time ? Yes, he's a very good defensive outfielder, but, even though he's not the automatic out when he bats like in 2006, the hitting still leaves much to be desired.

Don't know, but what he said was something like, his goal is to play CF full-time, whether it be with the Sox or with another team. He said it more nicely than I originally phrased it.

Here's the entry (last paragraph):
http://banderson.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/10/great_season_comes_to_tough_en.html

NLaloosh
10-09-2008, 12:16 PM
Well, it seems the consensus around here is that Fields still has too much work to do on both sides of the ball.

I can't see the Sox keeping him at Charlote again. So, I'm pretty sure that they're going to trade him and the Sox have no other internal options so that leaves us with acquring a 3bman from outside the org.

Makes sense to me.

btrain929
10-09-2008, 12:22 PM
Well, it seems the consensus around here is that Fields still has too much work to do on both sides of the ball.

I can't see the Sox keeping him at Charlote again. So, I'm pretty sure that they're going to trade him and the Sox have no other internal options so that leaves us with acquring a 3bman from outside the org.

Makes sense to me.

I say it either goes down 2 ways:

1) Other teams still value you him as a legit prospect and a possible part of their team's future, and want to trade for him. If that's the case, he can play a big part in acquiring a player to help our '09 team.
2) If teams have soured on him because of '08 and he's not too valuable on the trading block, send him to AAA to try to rebuild his value and see what he can do for a full season being healthy. Last year, he had nagging injuries, and is having surgery this offseason. If he can come back 100% healthy and tear up AAA, then we can trade him at the deadline for a piece, or in the '09 offseason.

I don't wanna trade him just to trade him. If he can't help bring us quality players in return, it doesn't hurt anyone to send him to AAA to try to improve and raise his stock.

NLaloosh
10-09-2008, 12:25 PM
Agreed. Except that I have a feeling that Josh's head would explode if he was sent back to Cahrlotte.

LITTLE NELL
10-09-2008, 12:46 PM
I voted also for BA but it would be great if Getz were to step up into a Nellie Fox type guy. It sounds like KW is very high on Getz.

SOXPHILE
10-09-2008, 12:49 PM
Don't know, but what he said was something like, his goal is to play CF full-time, whether it be with the Sox or with another team. He said it more nicely than I originally phrased it.

Here's the entry (last paragraph):
http://banderson.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/10/great_season_comes_to_tough_en.html


O.K. I thought he was doing the stereotypical "You better play me or trade me to someone who will" routine. My mistake.

GoGoCrede
10-09-2008, 12:55 PM
O.K. I thought he was doing the stereotypical "You better play me or trade me to someone who will" routine. My mistake.

No problem! I phrased it badly. Anyway, I think it'll be interesting to see what they'll do with him. This offseason won't be boring, that's for sure.

nccwsfan
10-09-2008, 12:55 PM
I would like to see Brian Anderson and Chris Getz earn a starting position in 2009. I would prefer to see if KW can fill an offseason need by trading Josh Fields. Hopefully he'll get a chance to play 3B everyday for a team that needs him more than us.

kittle42
10-09-2008, 12:56 PM
I voted none, because I always foolishly hold out hope that we can have proven players everywhere.

My real answer is "Hopefully no more than one of them, please."

slavko
10-09-2008, 01:46 PM
And just what has Brian Anderson done to merit saying that he's "outta here" if he doesn't get more playing time ? Yes, he's a very good defensive outfielder, but, even though he's not the automatic out when he bats like in 2006, the hitting still leaves much to be desired.

I thought there was some improvement in 2006 which was cut short by him sharing playing time in CF. He hasn't improved much, if at all, with the bat since. The ball does jump off his bat when he hits it. Is the coaching not getting through to him? I love him in CF, but I voted Getz.

whitesox901
10-09-2008, 01:59 PM
Josh Fields, we'll get hudson to play 2B and lead-off or Willits from LA, so we wont need Figgins playing third.

oeo
10-09-2008, 02:54 PM
Amazing how the guy that's shown the most potential in the major leagues has the least amount of votes.

jabrch
10-09-2008, 02:56 PM
Amazing how the guy that's shown the most potential in the major leagues has the least amount of votes.

We have a very short memory here. Some have already forgotten that the 2008 team was pretty good. How do you expect them to remember that Fields had a decent half in 2007.

ChiSoxFan7
10-09-2008, 03:41 PM
BA. Good defense, good speed, and DECENT (for the lack of a better word) hitter.


Addresses two issues that we have, and plays his weaknesses into our current strength.


I think I have become a full time FOBA:bandance:

daveeym
10-09-2008, 03:56 PM
I voted none of the three. I agree with those that think Clayton will be somewhere on the 25 man. If the team approaches opening day without an obvious upgrade at center then BA should be starting. As bad as BA's bat has been I really don't see how anyone can say he'd have been a downgrade overall the last two-three years. It sucks for everyone involved (especially for this board) that Kenny's CFs have sucked so bad. For his "winning now" goals, BA wasn't really the best option at the beginning of each year, but in hindsight, BAs development was hurt and I also believe the team would have actually been better with him in center everyday over the parade of has beens washed up vets and dissapointments.

asindc
10-09-2008, 04:01 PM
BA. Good defense, good speed, and DECENT (for the lack of a better word) hitter.


Addresses two issues that we have, and plays his weaknesses into our current strength.


I think I have become a full time FOBA:bandance:

I have a better word: mediocre.

kittle42
10-09-2008, 04:05 PM
I have a better word: mediocre.

We have a winner.

WhiteSoxBlog
10-09-2008, 04:13 PM
I think BA doesn't have a chance in hell unless they get Nick Swisher go, so that would be a waste of a vote. This dead horse has been beaten over the head enough.

[As for him leaving, I think they SHOULD release him if they won't start him. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. Can't hold on to him "just in case" but not play him and have an extra butt on the bench for no reason.]

Chris Getz all the way. He seems like a good replacement for Cabrera- a guy that'll get on base, maybe steal a couple.

decolores9628
10-09-2008, 04:16 PM
I am a pretty big FOBA(even got a anderson shirt from the custon t shirt shop), but even I realize that Brian needs to learn to hit a breaking ball.

He is a decent to slightly above average(maybe)low fastball hitter and he when he can make contact he usually hits the ball pretty hard, but whenever he gets two strikes its almost a given that he will swing at that slider or curve or whatever in the dirt outside and i hate seeing that.

If can at least semi improve his breaking ball hitting skills i would like to see him in center

I don't really know too much about Getz seeing how he didn't really get that many ABs here before he broke his wrist, but he seems like he could be decent if given a good oppurtunity

I have always hate Josh Fields. He is horrible at 3rd base and strikes out WAY too much. Sure he was 30-35 HR power, but he needs to make more contact

chisoxfanatic
10-09-2008, 04:17 PM
BA playing CF makes the entire OF better defensively, because the LF and RF don't have to compensate for any shortcomings in CF. It also allows the middle infielders to play a little shallower, because BA can even get to those duck snorts. The runs that do not score due to BA being in CF are just as valuable as someone with a better offensive ability and not so great defensive ability. I think that, with more time, BA can get into some sort of a rhythm. But, he'll have to win the spot out of spring training.

Bucky F. Dent
10-09-2008, 09:57 PM
I'd give it to BA if he learns how to hit.:D:

Daver
10-09-2008, 10:15 PM
:chopper


Put me in coach.

guillensdisciple
10-09-2008, 10:21 PM
Brian Anderson, love his defense and his hitting seemed to come at the right moments this year. Perhaps with some security as starter he can realize his true potential.

kittle42
10-10-2008, 09:52 AM
brian anderson, love his defense and his hitting seemed to come at the right moments this year. Perhaps with some security as starter he can realize his true potential.

2006.

longtimesoxguy
10-10-2008, 10:12 AM
I think BA should get another chance. Give him the job in Tuscon and bring in a specialist to work with him alone. We can live with him down in the line up with his defence and heart. They saw something big to give and stick with him in 06 so let him grow.

guillensdisciple
10-10-2008, 12:08 PM
2006.
Ye that was a failure, but with some added years you never know. Truthfully told his swing didn't look that much different, but his defense is so good that I might be willing to sacrifice it for a .250 average.

kittle42
10-10-2008, 12:29 PM
Ye that was a failure, but with some added years you never know. Truthfully told his swing didn't look that much different, but his defense is so good that I might be willing to sacrifice it for a .250 average.

The point here is, as it was then, that the rest of the lineup 1-8 HAS TO be good enough to basically sacrifice offense in the 9-hole. That means no Getz, and, IMO, no Fields, and keeping solid starters at all other positions. Probably a pipe dream given how the Sox pursue free agency, but hey, one can always hope for change!

soxfanreggie
10-10-2008, 12:30 PM
I sure hope you don't mean this Clayton...

:thechoice

:D:

Lukin13
10-10-2008, 01:05 PM
Who Should? BA

Who Will? Getz at 3B

kitekrazy
10-10-2008, 02:10 PM
2006.

Everyone seems to forget that. If the Sox can rid the feast or famine mentality BA would make a great 9th hitter.

Konerko05
10-10-2008, 02:36 PM
Who Should? BA

Who Will? Getz at 3B

Getz will not be starting at 3B.

He will either be our starting 2B, or have a spot on the bench. They may try him out at 3B to enhance his value as a utility man, but he does not have the skills to play 3B every day.

Lukin13
10-10-2008, 03:38 PM
Getz will not be starting at 3B.

He will either be our starting 2B, or have a spot on the bench. They may try him out at 3B to enhance his value as a utility man, but he does not have the skills to play 3B every day.


Oh, believe you me, I agree with you. My guess was just banking on the lack of 3B free agent options... and the fact that everyone here thinks Juan is automatically coming back to be a utility player. There are between 5 and 10 teams that may need/would like to sign a FA 3rd Baseman... and Juan is borderline top five and definitely in the top ten.

kittle42
10-11-2008, 12:47 AM
Everyone seems to forget that. If the Sox can rid the feast or famine mentality BA would make a great 9th hitter.

I agree with this. But if they don't, he cannot be playing.

kittle42
10-11-2008, 12:48 AM
There are between 5 and 10 teams that may need/would like to sign a FA 3rd Baseman... and Juan is borderline top five and definitely in the top ten.

I hope you mean Top 5/10 of free agent 3B and not of 3B overall.

russ99
10-18-2008, 03:00 PM
Getz has promise, but why rush him, especially if Kenny can get an established major league hitter at 2B/SS - specifically one of the speed/balance guys the Sox need. If we were rebuilding, maybe he'd get a shot, but the Sox are certainly not rebuilding.

Fields is counter to that "balance" idea, but he has power and there will always be a demand for guys who have proven they can hit with power in the majors. So Kenny can either flip him to fill a hole or keep him in case they top off the payroll budget filling other needs without getting a better option at 3B.

The truth about Brian is, Kenny is under no obligation to send him anywhere, whether he likes it or not.

Brian is a very good defensive outfielder with a little pop, but has zero plate patience, and has no evident plan in place when he steps up to the dish. Barring a miraculous change (maybe even a change in hitting coach) I don't see him turning on a switch and becoming even an average major league hitter. And until that time comes, he won't be a starting centerfielder for any MLB team, as much as we like the guy. Also, if Kenny can acquire a speedy leadoff hitting CF in the offseason, there will be even less of a window of opportunity for Brian than in past years.

Brian is under team control at a very low salary for 2-3 more years, so it hurts no one (except maybe Brian's and the FOBAs' egos) to keep things at status quo for the time being... He's valuable to the Sox as a 4th/5th outfielder, probably more valuable as a defensive sub and injury replacement than what Kenny could get in return for him.

I voted none of the above, but Josh has the best chance of the three. He's a decent stopgap in case Kenny can't get anyone better at 3B, but I have doubts Josh will be a Sox when the team heads to Tuscon or Glendale.