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Lip Man 1
09-20-2008, 10:20 PM
This is an interesting read:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-080920-rogers-ozzie-guillen-chicago-white-sox,0,7497462.story

It doesn't have a by-line but the link clearly says "rogers"

I guess he'd rather the Sox use such "proven workhorses" as Clayton Richard or Lance Broadway down the stretch with a divisional title on the line.

Like I said in another thread, Ozzie is doing what he can with his best pitchers. It's not his fault he only has four he can count on.

Lip

kjhanson
09-20-2008, 11:03 PM
Phil really fell off the bandwagon hard. For a while in 2006, after the Sox won the World Series, he tried his hardest to write more positive stories about the White Sox. But as soon as they slipped after the All-Star break, he was back to his old ways of riding them hard - and he hasn't stopped since.

And speaking of "since", well, actually, I mean "sense", Phil doesn't make any. Not in this little gem, nor in any other.

viagracat
09-21-2008, 09:42 AM
After Vazquez stunk up the joint the other day, my first thoughts were pretty much along the same line as Rogers'. But after thinking about it more, I would have really gotten more upset had someone like Broadway got shelled in a tight stretch run, and Ozzie would have never heard the end of it from all the experts in the media around here.

Hopefully the Sox are 3 1/2 up going into Minny, which would increase the odds of the big starters getting some rest before the playoffs. :happyguy:

veeter
09-21-2008, 10:07 AM
If Guillen would have pitched Broadway and he'd lost, Ozzie would have heard it from, more specifically, Rogers. You see, with Phil you can't win. He's the poster boy of 20/20 hind sight. Rogers really loves to pile on now that the cubs are enjoying this magical, historic and important title run. His goal in life is to make the Sox look bad. Phil also knows the baseball i.q. of most of his readers is like, ten. Therefore they eat it up. The baseball Gods have their ways, and for a hundred years they've gotten it right on the north side. I don't expect that to change.

slavko
09-21-2008, 11:05 AM
Phil really fell off the bandwagon hard. For a while in 2006, after the Sox won the World Series, he tried his hardest to write more positive stories about the White Sox. But as soon as they slipped after the All-Star break, he was back to his old ways of riding them hard - and he hasn't stopped since.

And speaking of "since", well, actually, I mean "sense", Phil doesn't make any. Not in this little gem, nor in any other.

The positive stories were appearing at the same time he was promoting his book on this board and elsewhere. Next book = more positive stories.

Lip Man 1
09-25-2008, 12:14 AM
Another day still ANOTHER story on how Ozzie refuses to give such "stellar" pitchers like Clayton Richard (6 ERA) and Lance Broadway a shot, with a division title on the line.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-080924-chicago-white-sox-twins-rogers,0,7695420.column

I sent him an e-mail about this second story of his in less then a week:

"You know I respect you and consider you a friend but I've got to tell you I'm getting pissed off at this tired refrain about the pitchers on short rest.

To answer your question, no I have ZERO confidence, none, nada, zip, nyet in anything Lance Broadway or Clayton Richard does. Richard had a good start in New York and got lit up in Kansas City and Minnesota. He got lucky pure and simple. Lance Broadway, beat the Royals, big deal.

If the Sox have a problem it's because they weren't willing to go out and pay the price to get a veteran starter after Contreras went down. Hang that one on Kenny Williams.

Now if you start writing that I'll agree with you 100%.

As Hall of Fame manager Casey Stengel once said, (paraphrasing) the only thing rookies do is get managers fired.

Amen.

Lip

Noneck
09-25-2008, 12:29 AM
If the Sox have a problem it's because they weren't willing to go out and pay the price to get a veteran starter after Contreras went down. Hang that one on Kenny Williams.



Lip

Its not just paying the price, its over paying or whatever it takes at that point. This also held true for a reliefer when Linebrink went down. But I won't and never hang this kinda stuff on Williams until I know he can write the check without approval and I never will know but suspect he can't.

Nellie_Fox
09-25-2008, 12:30 AM
Its not just paying the price, its over paying or whatever it takes at that point. This also held true for a reliefer when Linebrink went down. But I won't and never hang this kinda stuff on Williams until I know he can write the check without approval and I never will know but suspect he can't.There isn't a single GM in the game who has an unlimited budget.

Noneck
09-25-2008, 12:36 AM
There isn't a single GM in the game who has an unlimited budget.
I am well aware but piggy banks are there to be cracked open in desperate times. And I don't think the one that controls that piggy bank was willing to bust it open and that's not Williams fault.

NLaloosh
09-25-2008, 09:28 AM
Paul Byrd.

cws05champ
09-25-2008, 01:53 PM
Paul Byrd.
Who the Indians would not trade within the division unless we gave up a ton more than he was worth....

FielderJones
09-25-2008, 01:58 PM
Who the Indians would not trade within the division unless we gave up a ton more than he was worth....

Desperate times require desperate measures.

LoveYourSuit
09-25-2008, 02:05 PM
Another day still ANOTHER story on how Ozzie refuses to give such "stellar" pitchers like Clayton Richard (6 ERA) and Lance Broadway a shot, with a division title on the line.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-080924-chicago-white-sox-twins-rogers,0,7695420.column

I sent him an e-mail about this second story of his in less then a week:

"You know I respect you and consider you a friend but I've got to tell you I'm getting pissed off at this tired refrain about the pitchers on short rest.

To answer your question, no I have ZERO confidence, none, nada, zip, nyet in anything Lance Broadway or Clayton Richard does. Richard had a good start in New York and got lit up in Kansas City and Minnesota. He got lucky pure and simple. Lance Broadway, beat the Royals, big deal.

If the Sox have a problem it's because they weren't willing to go out and pay the price to get a veteran starter after Contreras went down. Hang that one on Kenny Williams.

Now if you start writing that I'll agree with you 100%.

As Hall of Fame manager Casey Stengel once said, (paraphrasing) the only thing rookies do is get managers fired.

Amen.

Lip

Lip, you have big stones my man.


Way to call him out.


Good stuff!!!