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Fenway
09-20-2008, 05:13 PM
Saturday marked the last day game at The Stadium and now only Sunday night remains.

No matter how one feels about the Yankees there is no escaping the fact that The Stadium was the most famous ballpark ever built.

For a visiting team and their fans a win there was always just a little more special and a loss there always stung a little more.

I regret that I never saw a game in the original stadium but I have a lifetime of memories in the reconstructed park. There was a level of excitement there that no other ballpark could match when you had a sellout crowd.

I am thankful that I have the memory of Game 7 in the 2004 ALCS to wipe away many sad days and nights there.

One can not forget that the game that made the NFL king was played there 50 years ago with the Colts winning in sudden death.
It was home to some of the greatest moments in boxing as well and it was there that Notre Dame became famous in college football.

3 Popes have said Mass there as well.

RIP

chisoxfanatic
09-20-2008, 05:38 PM
...and if the Yankees win tomorrow night, our Sox will be known as having been the last team to beat the Yankees there. I'll definitely be watching tomorrow night's game.

twentywontowin
09-20-2008, 05:47 PM
Should be a great send-off.

C-Dawg
09-20-2008, 05:52 PM
And almost completely forgotten in all the Yankee hoopla, Shea Stadium bows out this year too. Heck, if they hadn't changed the alternating AL/NL All-Star Game schedule, 2008 SHOULD have been a NL ballpark, and Shea was as deserving as any.

Bobby Thigpen
09-20-2008, 05:54 PM
Are Mets fans even nostalgic for that place? I've never heard anyone describe it as anything but a dump.

Frontman
09-20-2008, 05:56 PM
Shea is getting overlooked as well, which is a shame. But although I have never been to Yankee stadium; it still holds memories for me. When my grandfather was in New York City during World War II; he went in uniform to the stadium and saw a game for free.

Against the White Sox, of course.

To think what that park has meant to so many people, and to how many generations of fans; its something special. And even though it was against our White Sox, Jeter made one last piece of history in the House that Ruth built.

I certainly will tune in for that last game; and especially the last inning.

C-Dawg
09-20-2008, 06:09 PM
Are Mets fans even nostalgic for that place? I've never heard anyone describe it as anything but a dump.

Well, they did win a couple championships there... Especially 1986 which was a thriller and I was delighted when they released it on DVD a couple years ago. Go Mets!

SoxandtheCityTee
09-20-2008, 06:15 PM
Well, they did win a couple championships there... Especially 1986 which was a thriller and I was delighted when they released it on DVD a couple years ago. Go Mets!


I saw their 1986 parade, from an open window on a lower story of a building on Broadway. Pure coincidence -- I happened to be there on business. Went right by us in a cloud of ticker tape. Boy, that was cool.

The next World Series parade I saw in person was 2005. Even cooler.

chisoxfanatic
09-20-2008, 06:34 PM
Are Mets fans even nostalgic for that place? I've never heard anyone describe it as anything but a dump.
The Mets haven't had nearly the history of the Yankees.
And even though it was against our White Sox, Jeter made one last piece of history in the House that Ruth built.
It shall be forever known as "The House That Gavin Built."

LITTLE NELL
09-20-2008, 07:08 PM
Saw the Yanks beat the Orioles back in May of 1965 in the original configuration. For me that was the real Yankee Stadium, the House That Ruth Built.

Noneck
09-20-2008, 07:10 PM
Saw the Yanks beat the Orioles back in May of 1965 in the original configuration. For me that was the real Yankee Stadium, the House That Ruth Built.

I totally agree, This stadium is just on a historic plot of land.

Fenway
09-20-2008, 07:11 PM
Shea aged badly and has been in tough shape for over a decade now.

My heart was shattered twice there, first in 1966 when Joe Namath upset the Patriots and then 20 years later the infamous Game 6.

Do have one good Shea memory when Boston swept the Yankees in 75 in a Sunday DH and forced Steinbrenner to hire Billy Martin for the first time 2 days later.

Shea has history but nothing like the ballpark in The Bronx...no ballpark does and none will ever come close.

Hockey had the Forum de Montreal, the NBA had Boston Garden and the NFL has Lambeau but no venue even comes close to The Stadium. I would put the Rose Bowl as a distant second.

MarySwiss
09-20-2008, 07:22 PM
Sorry, Fens. I really don't give a rat's ass about Yankee Stadium facing the wrecking ball.

Anymore than I would care if somebody blew up Wrigley Field.

Good riddance to both, IMO.

Noneck
09-20-2008, 07:28 PM
Sorry, Fens. I really don't give a rat's ass about Yankee Stadium facing the wrecking ball.

Anymore than I would care if somebody blew up Wrigley Field.

Good riddance to both, IMO.

I'll add one to your list, Fenway Park. I dont get thrilled watching baseball in a half a handball court.

Brian26
09-20-2008, 08:11 PM
Sorry, Fens. I really don't give a rat's ass about Yankee Stadium facing the wrecking ball.

Anymore than I would care if somebody blew up Wrigley Field.

Good riddance to both, IMO.

Pretty much an all-around ignorant comment. I hate the teams that played at Yankee Stadium, but to piss on the legacy of the individual players that went through that building (Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Ford, Reggie...all the way through Jeter, Posada and the late 90's Yankees) is pretty unforgivable. Anyone who is a true baseball fan should hold some type of reverance for that yard in their heart.

And what Fenway says is completely true. Anytime the Sox went to Yankee Stadium, it also felt a bit more special. That's why people hold that four-game sweep in 2000 as such a close memory.

manders_01
09-20-2008, 08:26 PM
Pretty much an all-around ignorant comment. I hate the teams that played at Yankee Stadium, but to piss on the legacy of the individual players that went through that building (Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Ford, Reggie...all the way through Jeter, Posada and the late 90's Yankees) is pretty unforgivable. Anyone who is a true baseball fan should hold some type of reverance for that yard in their heart.

And what Fenway says is completely true. Anytime the Sox went to Yankee Stadium, it also felt a bit more special. That's why people hold that four-game sweep in 2000 as such a close memory.

:rolleyes: Give me a ****ing break! Those individual players happened to go through all those other buildings in their respective eras as well. It's about the Yankees. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a stadium that isn't directly linked to the team that plays it's home games there.

I love the White Sox. I really, really like the Rockies. And I take plenty of interest in baseball. I'd definitely classify myself as a baseball fan...and I couldn't give two ****s about Yankee Stadium.

Brian26
09-20-2008, 08:50 PM
Those individual players happened to go through all those other buildings in their respective eras as well.

Most of those buildings are now gone, and none of them were witness to 27 World Championships. Not sure what your point is, but if you're saying that all baseball stadiums have the same historical significance as Yankee Stadium, I'd politefully disagree.

MarySwiss
09-20-2008, 08:53 PM
Pretty much an all-around ignorant comment. I hate the teams that played at Yankee Stadium, but to piss on the legacy of the individual players that went through that building (Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Ford, Reggie...all the way through Jeter, Posada and the late 90's Yankees) is pretty unforgivable. Anyone who is a true baseball fan should hold some type of reverance for that yard in their heart.

And what Fenway says is completely true. Anytime the Sox went to Yankee Stadium, it also felt a bit more special. That's why people hold that four-game sweep in 2000 as such a close memory.

You again? :rolleyes:

whitesoxwilkes
09-20-2008, 08:54 PM
Sorry, Fens. I really don't give a rat's ass about Yankee Stadium facing the wrecking ball.

Anymore than I would care if somebody blew up Wrigley Field.

Good riddance to both, IMO.

You're really classy. Stay that way.

Lot more history there than that ****hole mega-mall they call a ballpark in Phoenix.

MarySwiss
09-20-2008, 09:11 PM
You're really classy. Stay that way.

Lot more history there than that ****hole mega-mall they call a ballpark in Phoenix.

And who was talking about Chase Field? But hell, why not change the subject? After all, my comment was "ignorant." Not that that's a personal attack or anything. Although I guess that all depends, doesn't it? On who's doing the evaluating. You might want to make it a bit less obvious, though.

Brian26
09-20-2008, 09:35 PM
You're really classy. Stay that way.

Lot more history there than that ****hole mega-mall they call a ballpark in Phoenix.

Depends on what type of history you're talking about. I hear they open the dump up in the offseason as a community service and let the local seniors do power-walking around the concourse to stay in shape. So, from a certain perspective, there's a lot of history there. None of it worth a damn in terms of baseball though.

MarySwiss
09-20-2008, 09:55 PM
You're really classy. Stay that way.

Lot more history there than that ****hole mega-mall they call a ballpark in Phoenix.

And who was talking about Chase Field? But hell, why not change the subject? After all, my comment was "ignorant." Not that that's a personal attack or anything. Although I guess that all depends, doesn't it? On who's doing the evaluating. You might want to make it a bit less obvious, though.

Depends on what type of history you're talking about. I hear they open the dump up in the offseason as a community service and let the local seniors do power-walking around the concourse to stay in shape. So, from a certain perspective, there's a lot of history there. None of it worth a damn in terms of baseball though.


So, let's see. We have Wilkes enjoining me to "stay classy." Followed by Wilkes referring to Chase Field as a ****hole. Followed by Wilkes and his "pal" Brian continuing to trash Chase Field. But I'm the one who needs to "stay classy."

Anyone else see the irony?

ChiSoxGirl
09-20-2008, 11:28 PM
I'm going to break up this tiff by saying that I really enjoyed the tribute to Yankee Stadium that was played on WGN after the Sox game tonight. Anyone else see this? Linkin Park's "Shadow of the Day" playing in the background was very fitting and the Sox players- past and present- giving their opinions of The Stadium was very classy and enjoyable to hear. I never made it to Yankee Stadium, which I regret, but regardless of that, I don't ignore the history and amazing players that played there.

Medford Bobby
09-20-2008, 11:38 PM
I'm going to break up this tiff by saying that I really enjoyed the tribute to Yankee Stadium that was played on WGN after the Sox game tonight. Anyone else see this? Linkin Park's "Shadow of the Day" playing in the background was very fitting and the Sox players- past and present- giving their opinions of The Stadium was very classy and enjoyable to hear. I never made it to Yankee Stadium, which I regret, but regardless of that, I don't ignore the history and amazing players that played there.

Yea, I caught that too, long after I shut the Sox game off to take the kids to the park for a while. Came home checked the score and wished I could have taped it. You can't ignore that history and I give it respect as a baseball history buff.:cool:

Fenway
09-21-2008, 12:23 AM
Most of the parks that have closed in the past 20 years were not missed when the new ones opened The exceptions are Comiskey and Tiger Stadium and it took fans awhile to adapt to the replacements.

Tiger Stadium was a gem and the shocking thing about it was how small the footprint of the park was.

Nobody misses The Vet, 3 Rivers, Riverfront, Candlestick or The Mistake on the lake in Cleveland.

The Yankees say that the dimensions in the new park are the same but that is not exactly true. One qurik of YS was the distance from the plate to the backstop. Nobody is going to miss the narrow concourse of YS that was never addressed when the park was redone.

Funny I was just thinking about what I miss most about old Comiskey and it is the cathedral windows in left field where you could see the trees in the park.

ViPeRx007
09-21-2008, 01:15 AM
I was able to make it to Yankee Stadium for the first time back at the end of April/Early May of this year for two games. I'm not a fan of the Yankees at all, but I am a baseball fan. I don't care what some people here say, the place has an aura about it. It's not the prettiest ballpark by far, but the history you feel there is amazing.

I for one will be sad to see it go - same thing will go for Fenway or Wrigley when their time comes. They represent more than just their team, they represent the game itself. It's too bad that some of you can't look beyond the team and your own personal grudges toward them.

SaltyPretzel
09-21-2008, 06:37 AM
Funny I was just thinking about what I miss most about old Comiskey and it is the cathedral windows in left field where you could see the trees in the park.

I miss that too. There were trees down the first base line also. The sun setting through the 3rd base arches were cool too.

Marqhead
09-21-2008, 09:27 AM
Sorry, Fens. I really don't give a rat's ass about Yankee Stadium facing the wrecking ball.

Anymore than I would care if somebody blew up Wrigley Field.

Good riddance to both, IMO.

Spot on. I can appreciate the history, but I'm not in anyway sad to see it go.

chisoxfanatic
09-21-2008, 09:31 AM
There really are only 2 stadiums I'd want to see go:

1. Baggie Dome (for obvious reasons, and fortunately it's gonna be gone after next season)
2. Wrigley Field (it's a dump, and to prove how many of their "fans" are frauds who are only there for the nostalgia and nothing else)

whitesoxwilkes
09-21-2008, 09:35 AM
So, let's see. We have Wilkes enjoining me to "stay classy." Followed by Wilkes referring to Chase Field as a ****hole. Followed by Wilkes and his "pal" Brian continuing to trash Chase Field. But I'm the one who needs to "stay classy."

Anyone else see the irony?

Not when it all starts with you saying Wrigley and Yankee Stadium need to be "blown up."

viagracat
09-21-2008, 11:22 AM
OK, I hate the Yankees as much as anyone not from New England, but damn, Yankee Stadium is currently a living piece of baseball history. Anyone with any sense of baseball tradition will have his/her heartstrings tugged tonight when the old place closes forever. That doesn't make you a Yankee fan if that happens to you. I think some here are hating on Yankee Stadium only because of their long-time occupant. I wish I had the opportunity to see a game there at least once in my life, but I never did. A couple of my neighbors (both Yankee fans in the interest of full disclosure) did make it there this year. They said it was a special experience.

I feel the same way about Fenway Park, and hell, even Wrigley Field. Yes, I know Wrigley is a dump; the team has an exalted status here due to its losing tradition :?:, and don't even get me started on all the nimrods that go to the games there. But it's a Chicago tradition, and yes, I'd be sad if and when the time comes the old place has to go.

I seem to remember old Comiskey as also being a dump toward the end that drew lots of complaints. And although the Cell is a vast improvement and I not for a minute think it was a bad decision to replace old Comiskey, I still have a little bit of nostalgia about the old place. Had a lot of good times there. What can I say?:dunno:

Give us elderly purists a break. :cool:

Fenway
09-21-2008, 11:27 AM
I am comparing the closing of Yankee Stadium to when the Forum de Montreal closed 12 years ago. Of all the old buildings in hockey the Forum stood alone in history and atmosphere.

My memories of Yankee Stadium are vivid. I remember Reggie Jackson ended Boston's chances in 1977 with an absolutely crushed homer of Reggie Cleveland.

In 2003 the 90 minutes of horror knowing the Yankees were going to win the pennant after Grady kept Pedro in too long. However exactly one year later the pure elation of winning Game 7 in a rout to cap the greatest comeback in baseball history. I will always be thankful to George Steinbrenner for ordering the lights to stay on as he bellowed 'Boston deserves to party'.

6 months before I was born my Dad went to the last 2 games of the 1949 season and saw Boston lose the pennant by one game and he didn't come home for a week just losing himself drinking in Manhattan. He never had another drink the rest of his life.

No place in baseball outside of Cooperstown holds more history for the game we love. I will miss it.

SoxandtheCityTee
09-21-2008, 11:27 AM
Not when it all starts with you saying Wrigley and Yankee Stadium need to be "blown up."

:scratch: That sounded odd to me so I went back and looked.

MarySwiss said "I really don't give a rat's ass about Yankee Stadium facing the wrecking ball. Anymore than I would care if somebody blew up Wrigley Field."

Yankee Stadium is being torn because it owners chose to do so, and the Wrigley Field comment is in the hypothetical. I thought it meant that she wouldn't care if its owners chose to destroy it too, by whatever means, not that its violent destruction is advocated or "needed."

itsnotrequired
09-21-2008, 11:28 AM
So, let's see. We have Wilkes enjoining me to "stay classy." Followed by Wilkes referring to Chase Field as a ****hole. Followed by Wilkes and his "pal" Brian continuing to trash Chase Field. But I'm the one who needs to "stay classy."

Anyone else see the irony?

wilkes is a known jag.

There really are only 2 stadiums I'd want to see go:

1. Baggie Dome (for obvious reasons, and fortunately it's gonna be gone after next season)
2. Wrigley Field (it's a dump, and to prove how many of their "fans" are frauds who are only there for the nostalgia and nothing else)

Whatever replaces Wrigley will be equally as packed as the current field. Let's not delude ourselves here...

viagracat
09-21-2008, 11:40 AM
Whatever replaces Wrigley will be equally as packed as the current field. Let's not delude ourselves here...

Nostalgia is a big part of baseball, which is what Yankee Stadium, Fenway, and Wrigley offer. As we all know, winning is not always necessary when the nosatalgia factor starts to kick in. Back when Wrigley was just another old ballpark, the Cubs couldn't draw flies, especially during one of their really bad seasons. Now, of course...

If and when the Cubs get a new stadium, I'd think for the first couple of years they'll draw well regardless of how they play. They'll draw well if they play well. But after the novelty wears off and the Cubs go way down south, you might not see it packed every game, especially if the new park is not sympathetic to old Wrigley. Absolutely nostalgia and tradition are a big part of the Wrigley experience. The Cubs are smart enough to try to replicate the Wrigley experience as much as they can in any new facility.

SoxandtheCityTee
09-21-2008, 11:42 AM
Whatever replaces Wrigley will be equally as packed as the current field. Let's not delude ourselves here...

If not even more packed, if built with a larger capacity.

LITTLE NELL
09-21-2008, 11:54 AM
If not even more packed, if built with a larger capacity.
They will not sell out every game after the novelty of a new stadium wears off, they will lose the tourist trade.

Brian26
09-21-2008, 12:17 PM
6 months before I was born my Dad went to the last 2 games of the 1949 season and saw Boston lose the pennant by one game and he didn't come home for a week just losing himself drinking in Manhattan. He never had another drink the rest of his life.

Probably because your mom kicked his ass when he got home.

Brian26
09-21-2008, 12:19 PM
They will not sell out every game after the novelty of a new stadium wears off, they will lose the tourist trade.

Depends on what is built. If they keep the ivy and the bleachers and just rebuild the grandstands between the foul poles, it would become an even bigger tourist trap.

Fenway
09-21-2008, 12:28 PM
My son never met his grandfather (my Dad) who died years before he was born but Fenway offered him a living connection to him. I could show him the seats that I sat in for my first game at Fenway and there is a chance he will be able to do the same if he has a child years from now. The old ballparks are living history which simply can not be duplicated.

Older Hawks fans miss Chicago Stadium dearly as the UC simply can not duplicate the old barn on Madison. The pipe organ was something one had to hear and feel in person. Same goes for Bruins fans who miss the old Boston Garden where the balcony was so close to the ice.

Football and basketball venues are not missed as much by older fans for a variety of reasons.

Fenway was almost replaced and HOK even had the design set back in 1999 but Harrington couldn't get the city and state to cough up half the money and he then elected to cash out. John Henry and Company saw that Fenway was a gold mine and elected to renovate and I suspect that Fenway will now stand for the rest of my life. It is a living baseball museum as is Wrigley.

Posters on nyyfans.com are wary of what the new park will be like. They are looking at their invoices for next season in horror. They are reacting to the change the way Catholics would react if the Pope decided to tear down St Peters and replace it with a modern church.

I suspect the last percent introduced tonight will be Yogi and there won't be a dry eye in the house.

Brian26
09-21-2008, 12:35 PM
I thought it meant that she wouldn't care if its owners chose to destroy it too, by whatever means, not that its violent destruction is advocated or "needed."

Anybody who says they could give a rat's ass that a historic baseball structure built in 1923 is going to be torn down is an ignorant fool. The same applies for saying they want a baseball park built in 1916 to be "blown up." The element that separates baseball from other pasttimes is the cathedrals in which the game is played. The beauty of the game is that players from three generations ago can be linked to the players today because they've played on the same fields.

Typing asinine comments in order to garner anti-Yankees or anti-Cubs sentiment is embarrassing. Hate the uniform and the fans if you choose, but respect the history of the game and the ballparks it has been played in.

Fenway
09-21-2008, 01:17 PM
My Mom never let my Dad forget about that trip as did his 7 sisters.

My Uncle Tony drove to NY on Tuesday to rescue him and he vanished. 2 days later my Uncle Tom took the train down and then he vanished as well.

Finally they called collect and train fare for the 3 of them was sent Western Union. Tony had a brand new 1949 Hudson and 2 years later the New York Police wrote asking if he was going to pick up the car :tongue:

I came close to duplicating it in 1977 when after a crushing loss I woke up passed out on the front seat in Brattleboro, VT the next afternoon. Last thing I remember was getting wasted at the Emerald Inn on Columbus Ave and 68th.

I am sure there are million stories like mine.

TomC727
09-21-2008, 01:40 PM
It is very sad to see it go. I am just glad I got to see 5 games there, including The Monday and Thursday White Sox games. No matter how you feel about the Yankees, If God was a baseball player, he would play in Yankee Stadium.

Fenway
09-21-2008, 04:00 PM
Bob Ryan nails it today

Everybody who posted in this thread must read this...

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2008/09/21/theyll_bring_down_the_house_but_its_no_time_to_che er/?page=full

MarySwiss
09-21-2008, 04:35 PM
Bob Ryan nails it today

Everybody who posted in this thread must read this...

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2008/09/21/theyll_bring_down_the_house_but_its_no_time_to_che er/?page=full

Read it, Fens. Nice article. Doesn't change my opinion one whit, though.

C-Dawg
09-21-2008, 05:03 PM
Depends on what is built. If they keep the ivy and the bleachers and just rebuild the grandstands between the foul poles, it would become an even bigger tourist trap.

Yeah, the Cubs know better than to mettle with a proven formula. Nobody seemed to mind the rebuilt bleachers in 2005 or the ugly 60s-era precast concrete that forms most of the exterior of the place. Come to think of it, if they were smart they'd just knock down the whole thing and rebuild it on the same site and call it a "remodeling" of the same, original 1916 ballpark. All its "history" would stay intact.

:rolleyes:

Anyway,

I dislike the Yankees as much as the next guy, but the Stadium is definately cool. I'm glad I made the trip there to see it, and it'll be a little sad to see it torn down.

cub killer
09-21-2008, 05:20 PM
Anybody who says they could give a rat's ass that a historic baseball structure built in 1923 is going to be torn down is an ignorant fool. The same applies for saying they want a baseball park built in 1916 to be "blown up." The element that separates baseball from other pasttimes is the cathedrals in which the game is played. The beauty of the game is that players from three generations ago can be linked to the players today because they've played on the same fields.

Typing asinine comments in order to garner anti-Yankees or anti-Cubs sentiment is embarrassing. Hate the uniform and the fans if you choose, but respect the history of the game and the ballparks it has been played in.

Settle down, big guy. They're just buildings, that's all. Yankee Stadium is ok, but Wimpy Field is the most overrated edifice on the planet. It's a glorified AAA stadium, nothing more. There is nothing special about that dump, I don't care what any brainwashed drone thinks.

The main thing about these ballparks going away is that it makes us all feel old. I'm still a Riverfront-3 Rivers- Dawg Pound- Astrodome type of guy. Baseball, to me, includes the Montreal Expos. I'm still more used to that peculiar center field camera angle at Old Comiskey than the current one at the current park. Hell, even night games at Clark n Addison still have a novelty to me.

So, I don't care about the ballparks, but it still hurts to know that Tiger Stadium, Municipal, Memorial, County, Arlington, etc. are all memories. I associate those stadiums with collecting baseball cards and playing whiffle ball till it was too dark to see. I'd play baseball all day and night, then come home by curfew to flip between SportsCenter and CNN sports (POD squad).

Ah, the memories of the Mattingly Yankees playing before scarce crowds. Neon Deion getting cussed out by Pudge. Tom Seaver's big win.

And of course, Aaron tasting that blue outfield wall.

Noneck
09-21-2008, 05:27 PM
Come to think of it, if they were smart they'd just knock down the whole thing and rebuild it on the same site and call it a "remodeling" of the same, original 1916 ballpark. All its "history" would stay intact.





Yea and then 30 years later have a year long celebration of the passing of a +120 year historical park when it is totally knocked down and relocated. What a great idea, Wonder why no one ever thought of doing that elsewhere. :rolleyes:

nasox
09-21-2008, 08:00 PM
Give us elderly purists a break. :cool:

I'm pretty young (20) and I feel the same way about Yankee Stadium, Wrigley, and yes, Fenway. All three are dumps in terms of conveniences, etc. But there is a certain aura around them, a distinct energy that raises the hairs on your arms when you walk into any of them. It is as if long past souls who built the places, made them what they are know, and solidified their place in history collectively whisper into your ear. Call me crazy, but this certain energy is very hard to define. In fact, it can only be experienced. And it is very sad that one of these last vestiges to days gone by has itself gone by, but times change, the beat of the progress marches on, until the only true remains of these places are carried on in memories.

twentywontowin
09-21-2008, 08:39 PM
I never saw or heard of that roll call from the fans before. Pretty cool.

thomas35forever
09-21-2008, 08:40 PM
I never saw or heard of that roll call from the fans before. Pretty cool.
I read about it on Wikipedia once. I remember they always started with the centerfielder, but I forgot the rest of the ritual.

itsnotrequired
09-21-2008, 08:48 PM
Settle down, big guy. They're just buildings, that's all. Yankee Stadium is ok, but Wimpy Field is the most overrated edifice on the planet. It's a glorified AAA stadium, nothing more. There is nothing special about that dump, I don't care what any brainwashed drone thinks.

The main thing about these ballparks going away is that it makes us all feel old. I'm still a Riverfront-3 Rivers- Dawg Pound- Astrodome type of guy. Baseball, to me, includes the Montreal Expos. I'm still more used to that peculiar center field camera angle at Old Comiskey than the current one at the current park. Hell, even night games at Clark n Addison still have a novelty to me.

So, I don't care about the ballparks, but it still hurts to know that Tiger Stadium, Municipal, Memorial, County, Arlington, etc. are all memories. I associate those stadiums with collecting baseball cards and playing whiffle ball till it was too dark to see. I'd play baseball all day and night, then come home by curfew to flip between SportsCenter and CNN sports (POD squad).

Ah, the memories of the Mattingly Yankees playing before scarce crowds. Neon Deion getting cussed out by Pudge. Tom Seaver's big win.

And of course, Aaron tasting that blue outfield wall.

CUBKILLA i am feeling you in a major sort of way. It is my firm belief that Hofstra could eat a truck if he put his mind to it. Let's all go out and support our favorite team this decade see ya l8r.

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09-21-2008, 08:53 PM
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cws05champ
09-22-2008, 12:15 AM
I have been to the "Classic" Stadiums, Wrigley, Fenway, Yankee Stadium. IMO Fenway as it exists right now is the best of the three. When I went to Yankee stadium 2 years ago it was nice to see, but I did not get that aura or sense of history. I just thought it was a dump. It was time...just let it go.

They did a great job of restoring Fenway, and when I went there this year I had that feeling of old time baseball and just looked around at the stadium and thought it was cool. It still was crampped, didn't have the conveniences and you can't see fly balls well when you are in the grandstand.
Wrigley just sucks....I don;t need to go into that.

I just got sick of ESPN and everyone talking like the Yankee franchise was going away. It's a stadium!! Not a team...

Fenway
09-22-2008, 09:09 AM
In the parade of ex-Yankees they were showing on the scoreboard I couldn't help but smirking that Roger Clemens was not included.

What was shocking was no mention of Joe Torre as far as I could tell.

BTW it should be noted that ESPN2 ran the ceremony commercial free.

khan
09-22-2008, 12:17 PM
Nostalgia is a big part of baseball, which is what Yankee Stadium, Fenway, and Wrigley offer. As we all know, winning is not always necessary when the nosatalgia factor starts to kick in. Back when Wrigley was just another old ballpark, the Cubs couldn't draw flies, especially during one of their really bad seasons. Now, of course...
Agreed.

Absolutely nostalgia and tradition are a big part of the Wrigley experience.
Disagreed. There is a HUGE difference between "History" and "Nostalgia." Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of scrubs fans and the stupid media confuse the two. So here's a healthy reminder for people who are melding the two together:

Yankee Stadium: The home of many, many world series champions, and many, many Hall of Famers = HISTORY

A guy remembering the first time he got drunk back in '86 at Yankee Stadium = NOSTALGIA.


Fenway Park: The home of many, many Hall of Famers, and a World Series Champion or two = HISTORY.

A guy remembering the time he caught a foul ball hit by the extremely overrated Jim Rice back in '79 = NOSTALGIA.


Wrigley Field: The home of many, many losers, and the place where Mike Murphy and others started up the "bleacher bums" = NOSTALGIA.


Again, YOUR personal memories does NOT equate to "history." [For that matter, neither do MY memories of watching games at Old Comiskey, either.] But actual events that determined the content of the record books for MLB DOES equal history. In this sense, Wrigley is more replete with NOSTALGIA than it is History. [IMO, TRUE cubs fans would be GLAD to see the dump torn down.]

In any case, I'm sorry I missed out on Yankee Stadium before it closed.

Irishsox1
09-22-2008, 12:25 PM
Yankee Stadium has been gone since the 1973. What is there now is a nasty, 1970's stadium that had the benefit of having all of the older stuff lumped in. When I went there in 2005, it was a huge letdown.

However, combined Yankee Stadium was the site of some incredible events, sporting and otherwise.

jabrch
09-22-2008, 01:04 PM
I love the history of the game as much as the next guy. But the game is easier to enjoy in a better facility. Thus I care very little that the turf that Ruth never really played on is gone.

The walls that have been redone since Gerihg played there really don't make me feel anything.

The fact that the lot moves two blocks over - I don't care.

It will be a better place to see a game - I'm all for it.

I don't cry over the loss of the old Barn on Madison street. Sure - there is nostolgia there - but the UC is just such a nice place to see a game. Yankee stadium is a dump - the fans are well served by tearing it down and building a modern park.

Fenway
09-22-2008, 01:06 PM
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080922/capt.2d0e92e0ea8e408798055cd678f55121.yankee_stadi um_finale_baseball_nyjj130.jpg

Lundind1
09-22-2008, 01:16 PM
A fitting send-off for a place that helped build the popularity of baseball.

Fenway
09-22-2008, 01:41 PM
this didn't take long :tongue:

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Fans Say Goodbye to the House That Mickey Rivers Built
A Dump Since '76, Door Finally Closes on a Bronx Ballpark

Soxfanspcu11
09-22-2008, 01:43 PM
ESPN's coverage of this was vomit inducing.

I understand that it is Yankee Stadium and that it is a historic ballpark and has lots of memories and blah blah blah, but seriously, ESPN went WAY overboard with this last night.

3 hours before the game and they are interviewing some nobody over the phone about his experiences in Yankee Stadium??

Yep. Sure is great television. I was GLUED to My tv. :rolleyes:

chisoxfanatic
09-22-2008, 01:48 PM
this didn't take long :tongue:

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Fans Say Goodbye to the House That Mickey Rivers Built
A Dump Since '76, Door Finally Closes on a Bronx Ballpark
In the words of Chandler's old girlfriend from Friend's..."Ohhhh....Myyyy....Goooddd!" What a Loser with a capital L!

MHOUSE
09-22-2008, 04:56 PM
ESPN's coverage of this was vomit inducing.

I understand that it is Yankee Stadium and that it is a historic ballpark and has lots of memories and blah blah blah, but seriously, ESPN went WAY overboard with this last night.

3 hours before the game and they are interviewing some nobody over the phone about his experiences in Yankee Stadium??

Yep. Sure is great television. I was GLUED to My tv. :rolleyes:

I completely agree. This was my problem with the whole weekend. The ESPN deluge of coverage about the closing of a BUILDING was nauseating. It's brick, wood, cement, and nails; not the Garden of Eden itself. I link the history and legacy of baseball to the players and the games, not the specific plot of grass that they played on.

I admit that playoff games in Yankee Stadium had a special luster all their own, but nothing is worth 7 hours of PREgame coverage and then a half-hour of Jeter walking around the outfield afterward. I was disgusted at the ESPN-Yankee empire forcing anyone who wanted to see some baseball or Sportscenter afterward to sit through every aging Yankee legend and player who did anything of note there drone on and on about the "reverence" of the building. It was laughable.

I think the tv ratings spoke for almost everyone outside of New York who rightfully tuned into the real event of the night, the Packers-Cowboys on ABC. Outside of New York the game got like a 2 compared to the Sunday Night Game's 14. Thank goodness. Lost in all this is the wonderful fact that the Yankees will finally miss the postseason in their last season at "The Stadium". Sweet justice!

Brian26
09-22-2008, 09:38 PM
ESPN's coverage of this was vomit inducing.

I understand that it is Yankee Stadium and that it is a historic ballpark and has lots of memories and blah blah blah, but seriously, ESPN went WAY overboard with this last night.

3 hours before the game and they are interviewing some nobody over the phone about his experiences in Yankee Stadium??

Yep. Sure is great television. I was GLUED to My tv. :rolleyes:

As overblown as it was, it was better than watching another NL-snoozer Phillies or Dodgers game. They seemed to be on every Sunday night this summer.

salty99
09-22-2008, 09:55 PM
Well then you're in luck....Desparate Housewives is coming back!!!

:o::?::scratch::redface::bandance::dtroll:

btrain929
09-23-2008, 05:13 PM
I liked how ARod's at-bat music was Jay-Z's verse in "Put On" where the lines were:

"I Put On for my city, so, when I'm dead and gone, I got one last wish: put my Yankee hat on....."

It was subtle, but I liked it.