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StillMissOzzie
08-25-2008, 01:36 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=baker/080822

As a followup to their recent best 3 players in a franchise's history, ESPN.com's Page 2 has put together their list of 3 of each team's worst seasons ever. For the Sox, they had:

Jason Bere, 1995 (8-15, 7.19 ERA)

Mike Caruso, 1999

and, IMHO, the runaway winner:

Jaime Navarro, 1998 (8-16, 6.36 ERA)

Bere had a couple darn good seasons, and I think that he was pitching hurt by then.
Caruso, I think, was rushed to the big leagues to justify the White Flag trade, but he hit a homer against the Cubs to clinch a win, so he'll get a pass from me.

Navarro? Can't find much of a redeeming quality. He had two god-awful seasons, he was always quick to point the finger at his defense instead of taking any responsibility for his own shortcomings, and as an added side benefit, I blame Navarro for JR's reluctance to this day of offering pitchers more than 3 year deals (Buehrle being a notable exception)

Your thoughts? Anyone else more deserving of a nomination?

SMO
:gulp:

JB98
08-25-2008, 02:00 AM
Todd Ritchie was pretty horse**** in 2002. For me, it comes down to him or Navarro for worst season ever.

kingpin_rcs
08-25-2008, 02:10 AM
Steve Sax 1992

Danny Wright

Greg Luzinski 1984

HebrewHammer
08-25-2008, 02:14 AM
I can't believe this guy (http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gonzaan01.shtml) didn't make it. Or this guy (http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/santoro01.shtml).

chaerulez
08-25-2008, 08:15 AM
I can't believe this guy (http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gonzaan01.shtml) didn't make it. Or this guy (http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/santoro01.shtml).

Andy Gonzalez was pretty bad, but I think they were looking for players who played the entire season.

Max Power
08-25-2008, 08:31 AM
Navarro's only redeeming quality is that he was traded for Jose Valentin and Cal Eldred, who both helped us win the division in 2000.

Zisk77
08-25-2008, 09:16 AM
others I'd consider:

greg norton (defensive standpoint)
corrie snyder
claudell washington

1917
08-25-2008, 09:23 AM
others I'd consider:

greg norton (defensive standpoint)
corrie snyder
claudell washington

Snyder got booted at the all star break I think, but he blew.

jackbrohamer
08-25-2008, 10:31 AM
Jamie Navarro could have won 2 places on that list if you include 1999, which was not significantly worse (8-13, 6.09 ERA) than 1998 (8-16, 6.36).

voodoochile
08-25-2008, 10:35 AM
No 2008 PK? What are they thinking?!?!??!?!!!

areilly
08-25-2008, 03:42 PM
Todd Ritchie was pretty horse**** in 2002. For me, it comes down to him or Navarro for worst season ever.

I don't know why, but the second sentence is strangely hilarious.

It's too bad middle relievers weren't given more consideration, as the Sox could surely assemble a Bullpen of the Damned to compete with the worst of them.

Madscout
08-25-2008, 05:36 PM
The funny thing is Nefi Perez is listed twice, at least.

PaleHoser
08-25-2008, 05:40 PM
It made my day to see Nick Punto on this list, particularly with all the love he gets here.

I'm astonished they didn't list Enzo Hernandez (http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hernaen01.shtml) for the Padres, though it's likely that they couldn't decide which season was worse.

1971 - 549 AB's, .222/.295/.250 with 12 RBI's. That's not a typo.
1972 - 329 AB's, .195/.243/.249 with 15 RBI's.

He made Mario Mendoza look like Babe Ruth.

StillMissOzzie
08-25-2008, 08:10 PM
Jamie Navarro could have won 2 places on that list if you include 1999, which was not significantly worse (8-13, 6.09 ERA) than 1998 (8-16, 6.36).

You oughta read the article, they do point this out.

SMO
:gulp:

rdivaldi
08-25-2008, 10:43 PM
Just take all the pitchers from the 1998 and 1999 seasons in a bag, shake it up and pull out a name. You'll get one of the worst performances in White Sox history 75% of the time.

Parrothead
08-25-2008, 11:37 PM
Mike Caruso, 1999

Caruso, I think, was rushed to the big leagues to justify the White Flag trade, but he hit a homer against the Cubs to clinch a win, so he'll get a pass from me.

At the time I was one of the few that like the white flag trade.

My vote goes toward Steve Sax 1992 and just about every one from every season in the 1970's (except 1977) and in the late 1980's

slavko
08-25-2008, 11:58 PM
Navarro's only redeeming quality is that he was traded for Jose Valentin and Cal Eldred, who both helped us win the division in 2000.

Don't forget that we threw in sore-armed John Snyder who had beaten Pedro (Martinez) twice for us as a rookie.

SoxxoS
08-26-2008, 09:22 AM
When I went to 1999 Sox Fest I bought a mini bat just so Mike Caruso could sign it -

I still have it, as I just found it a few days ago when I was cleaning out my room. I may use it as a muddler for mojitos.

Cangelosi CF
08-26-2008, 09:51 AM
Greg Luzinski or Julio Cruz.