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doublem23
08-14-2008, 09:30 AM
This is pure fantasy, money's not an issue, if you could grab 1 player from any other MLB team right now, who would you pick?

I'd take Curtis Granderson; local kid, excellent defensive CF, and I think his presence at the top of the lineup would make the Sox a 100-win team, easy.

aryzner
08-14-2008, 09:33 AM
Probably CC Sabathia because he would make me feel ridiculously confident about the Sox' rotation and he has been lights out lately.

nccwsfan
08-14-2008, 09:34 AM
Alex Rodriguez

Tekijawa
08-14-2008, 09:35 AM
Joe Nathan for multiple reasons... Our bullpen would be unstoppable!

The Immigrant
08-14-2008, 09:41 AM
Grady Sizemore.

WhiteSoxBlog
08-14-2008, 09:47 AM
Grady Sizemore. Maybe I haven't seen enough of him to be a good judge, but we'd finally get to the end of our CF issues. And some speed on the team would be nice.

Rockabilly
08-14-2008, 09:47 AM
Chase Utley

chitown13
08-14-2008, 09:48 AM
Geoff Blum

Mohoney
08-14-2008, 10:05 AM
I'll take Joe Nathan. He makes us a lot better in the bullpen, and severely weakens the Twins at the same time.

turners56
08-14-2008, 10:14 AM
Grady Sizemore. He solves our leadoff problems and plays center.

hellview
08-14-2008, 10:24 AM
Russel Martin

Sox It To Em
08-14-2008, 10:26 AM
Tim Lincecum.

jabrch
08-14-2008, 10:28 AM
Alex Rodriguez - and it isn't close in my eyes.

cleanwsox
08-14-2008, 10:29 AM
Pujols, see ya Paulie.

The Milkman
08-14-2008, 10:34 AM
Brandon Webb, or if we can have one of our starters poach his sinker.

South Side Irish
08-14-2008, 10:36 AM
Pujols, see ya Paulie.

Can't believe it took 14 posts to mention the best player in baseball. Outside of SP, you couldn't make a better upgrade from what we have, either.

CashMan
08-14-2008, 10:38 AM
Can't believe it took 14 posts to mention the best player in baseball. Outside of SP, you couldn't make a better upgrade from what we have, either.


LOL, try Mauer. I predict, say it like you mean it, I predict, Mauer will be the next baseball hitter to hit .400.

South Side Irish
08-14-2008, 10:47 AM
LOL, try Mauer. I predict, say it like you mean it, I predict, Mauer will be the next baseball hitter to hit .400.

:scratch:

You don't think Pujols is better than Mauer? I'll give you .400, but I'll take Pujols OPS, power, clutch hitting, and presence in a line-up that's made several crap-tastic Cardinal teams contenders.

seventyseven
08-14-2008, 11:16 AM
LOL, try Mauer. I predict, say it like you mean it, I predict, Mauer will be the next baseball hitter to hit .400.

This is a joke, right? I can't think of an single aspect of the game where Mauer is better than Pujols (including defense).

jenn2080
08-14-2008, 11:17 AM
Chase Utley

doublem23
08-14-2008, 11:18 AM
This is a joke, right? I can't think of an single aspect of the game where Mauer is better than Pujols (including defense).

Except that catcher is waaaaaaaay more important than first base defensively.

palehozenychicty
08-14-2008, 11:18 AM
This is pure fantasy, money's not an issue, if you could grab 1 player from any other MLB team right now, who would you pick?

I'd take Curtis Granderson; local kid, excellent defensive CF, and I think his presence at the top of the lineup would make the Sox a 100-win team, easy.


Oh yeah. This guy would be a marketing dream for this franchise, along with a quality talent. The Sox will sign him when he's 35. :D:

kittle42
08-14-2008, 11:19 AM
Anyone saying anything other than Rodriguez, Pujols or *maybe* Webb/Lincecum/Santanta is insane.

palehozenychicty
08-14-2008, 11:21 AM
Anyone saying anything other than Rodriguez, Pujols or *maybe* Webb/Lincecum/Santanta is insane.


Santana can start on our team anyday. Hell, I can pick him up on the way to JFK. :D:

BringBackBlkJack
08-14-2008, 11:22 AM
At first glance I thought the title said "punch one player" instead of "poach"! :redneck I was ready to type Zambrano and be done with it...

As far as poaching goes, it would have to be Lincecum due to his youth. He could be a Buehrle-esque figure if he stays healthy.

doublem23
08-14-2008, 11:23 AM
Anyone saying anything other than Rodriguez, Pujols or *maybe* Webb/Lincecum/Santanta is insane.

I don't know, if the question was "you just got an MLB franchise, who would you pick to build your team around?" then the answer is obviously one of the guys you mentioned, but with the way this team is constructed, would another big bat in the middle of the order really make that much of a major improvement over a true table-setter?

Though, with Contreras's injury, probably a top of the line starter is the correct answer.

soxfanatlanta
08-14-2008, 11:24 AM
LOL, try Mauer. I predict, say it like you mean it, I predict, Mauer will be the next baseball hitter to hit .400.

I know I'm crazy, but I'd take Brian McCann over Mauer. That being said..

Alex Rodriguez in a blink of an eye.

palehozenychicty
08-14-2008, 11:25 AM
I don't know, if the question was "you just got an MLB franchise, who would you pick to build your team around?" then the answer is obviously one of the guys you mentioned, but with the way this team is constructed, would another big bat in the middle of the order really make that much of a major improvement over a true table-setter?

Though, with Contreras's injury, probably a top of the line starter is the correct answer.

That's how I interpreted the question.

kittle42
08-14-2008, 11:26 AM
I don't know, if the question was "you just got an MLB franchise, who would you pick to build your team around?" then the answer is obviously one of the guys you mentioned, but with the way this team is constructed, would another big bat in the middle of the order really make that much of a major improvement over a true table-setter?

Though, with Contreras's injury, probably a top of the line starter is the correct answer.

It's like the NFL Draft - screw positions - you take the most talented player on the board.

doublem23
08-14-2008, 11:28 AM
It's like the NFL Draft - screw positions - you take the most talented player on the board.

Fair enough, but I don't subscribe to that philosophy if you have assembled a good team. I'm not saying I wouldn't love to have a bat like A-Rod's, but I think the Sox right now need a lead-off hitter more than they need another slugger.

A dynamic lead-off hitter at the top of this line-up would give the Sox the most ferocious offense in baseball.

beasly213
08-14-2008, 11:31 AM
Santana. His second half stats over his career are ridiculious. I want a stopper and a big game pitcher. That's him.

I'd also like David Wright just because he's my favorite non White Sox player in baseball. :cool:

South Side Irish
08-14-2008, 11:35 AM
I'd also like David Wright just because he's my favorite non White Sox player in baseball. :cool:

He's very good, and fun to watch. We wouldn't have to worry about 3B for a while!

LITTLE NELL
08-14-2008, 11:39 AM
Based on what the White Sox need at this point in time either Sabathia or Sizemore. Love to have both.

oeo
08-14-2008, 11:43 AM
It's like the NFL Draft - screw positions - you take the most talented player on the board.

Who improves the team more...Pujols, A-Rod, etc. or Johan, CC, Webb, etc.?

I'll take the ace, and it puts us right next to the Angels for the best team in baseball.

Rocky Soprano
08-14-2008, 11:46 AM
Alex Rodriguez.

CashMan
08-14-2008, 11:55 AM
Just throwing this one out there: Ichiro.

Vestigio
08-14-2008, 12:09 PM
At first I was thinking of Sizemore. But right now I would want Santana, Johan

I have a feeling of who Hawk would want

:hawk

"Let me tell you, this Carlos Gomez kid is going to be a star. He has the potential to be the greatest offensive player in the game. No. Doubt. About. It. Mercy!"

stacksedwards
08-14-2008, 12:15 PM
Almost 40 posts in and not one vote for Aaron Rowand.

balke
08-14-2008, 12:19 PM
No votes for Hanley Ramirez?

I'd have to go with Santana... or Peavy... or C.C.

I think all 3 got what you want.

I'm surprised someone said they want Nathan over K-rod.

35th and Shields
08-14-2008, 12:30 PM
Anyone saying anything other than Rodriguez, Pujols or *maybe* Webb/Lincecum/Santanta is insane.

i'm surprised i'm the first to mention Roy Halladay. Leads the majors in complete games (something our bullpen could use) and has more then most teams entire pitching staffs. Has to be the most underrated pitcher in baseball

hellview
08-14-2008, 12:31 PM
I'm surprised someone said they want Nathan over K-rod.

Cause Nathan is better then K-Rod.

balke
08-14-2008, 12:35 PM
Cause Nathan is better then K-Rod.

K-rod's stuff is filthy. Nathan is nails, but pitches in a dome at home. With K-rod's movement on his pitches, I couldn't pick Nathan over him. They are near equals though statistically. Career wise K-rod has the slight edge by ERA BAA and WHIP though.

balke
08-14-2008, 12:36 PM
i'm surprised i'm the first to mention Roy Halladay. Leads the majors in complete games (something our bullpen could use) and has more then most teams entire pitching staffs. Has to be the most underrated pitcher in baseball

Underrated due to injury. He is the best pitcher in baseball, but a risk. Sheets belongs in the same ranks, but also has an injury history.

FedEx227
08-14-2008, 12:37 PM
Grady Sizemore, Alex Rodriquez or Hanley Ramirez

peeonwrigley
08-14-2008, 12:38 PM
Position player: A-Rod

Pitcher: Johan

hellview
08-14-2008, 12:44 PM
K-rod's stuff is filthy. Nathan is nails, but pitches in a dome at home. With K-rod's movement on his pitches, I couldn't pick Nathan over him. They are near equals though statistically. Career wise K-rod has the slight edge by ERA BAA and WHIP though.

I'm not sure what the dome has to do with anything. Take Krod and Nathan's numbers since 2004 (when Nathan became a closer) And it's not even close.


Underrated due to injury. He is the best pitcher in baseball, but a risk. Sheets belongs in the same ranks, but also has an injury history.


Since 2003 only 2004 and 2005 has Halladay not thrown over 220 innings. He shouldn't even me mentioned in the same breath as Sheets who hasn't thrown 200 innings since 2004.

bluestar
08-14-2008, 12:45 PM
Johan Santana, although I would also consider some of the younger pitching studs like Lincecum, Kazmir, or Webb. I would always take a proven, "ace" pitcher over a position player.

SoXPriDe33
08-14-2008, 12:46 PM
Hanley Ramirez

hellview
08-14-2008, 12:48 PM
Johan Santana, although I would also consider some of the younger pitching studs like Lincecum, Kazmir, or Webb. I would always take a proven, "ace" pitcher over a position player.

Santana is two monthes older then Webb.

bluestar
08-14-2008, 12:50 PM
Santana is two monthes older then Webb.

I didn't specify how much younger. :redneck

cali2005.
08-14-2008, 12:50 PM
its a tough choice for me... do we go for a #1 ace or a guy with speed and power.... hmmmmm..... the way CC has been pitching i would love to have him.... but hanley ramirez would be great... he has speed and power.

i would say hanley ramirez he can create so many runs.

BigP50
08-14-2008, 12:52 PM
I agree, Hanley Ramirez

balke
08-14-2008, 12:53 PM
I'm not sure what the dome has to do with anything. Take Krod and Nathan's numbers since 2004 (when Nathan became a closer) And it's not even close.

Nathan
Home: 2.33
Away: 3.40

K-Rod
Home: 2.29
Away: 2.57

Actually, I looked more into it and it looks like the away stats for Nathan are skewed by an early season. I'd still take K-rod though, he's a monster and younger.



Halladay is one of the best, no doubt. He's not injured as much as Sheets, but if Sheets were healthy all the time, he'd be in the C.C./Santana/Peavy/Halladay ranks.

I personally would prefer Santana over all of them though, no injury history and the best track record. Plus, Santana gets better late in the season.

btrain929
08-14-2008, 12:54 PM
I agree, Hanley Ramirez

Indeed.

hellview
08-14-2008, 01:01 PM
Nathan
Home: 2.33
Away: 3.40

K-Rod
Home: 2.29
Away: 2.57
season.

Those are Nathan's career numbers when he was putting up ratty numbers in San Fran. I said take his numbers since 2004 when he went to Minnesota

Home-1.97
Away-1.56

Check and mate.

btrain929
08-14-2008, 01:02 PM
Those are Nathan's career numbers when he was putting up ratty numbers in San Fran. I said take his numbers since 2004 when he went to Minnesota

Home-1.97
Away-1.56

Check and mate.

Hahaha, well played, worthy adversary.

kraut83
08-14-2008, 01:10 PM
A healthy Roy Halliday. Tough as nails, and a bit of a red ass.

I would love to have Grady Sizemore roaming CF as well

BigP50
08-14-2008, 01:11 PM
Chase Utley would be great also

balke
08-14-2008, 01:25 PM
Those are Nathan's career numbers when he was putting up ratty numbers in San Fran. I said take his numbers since 2004 when he went to Minnesota

Home-1.97
Away-1.56

Check and mate.

He turns 34 in November. Nathan just proved if you put anyone on the Twins with talent and they'll lower their ERA, its a well coached team. I'd take K-Rod.

chisoxfan4life
08-14-2008, 01:31 PM
Lincecum or Hanley for sure. A staff of Buehrls, Vazquez, Lincecum, Danks, and Floyd would be absolutely filthy. With Hanley leading off our lineup would become much more diverse and dangerous. Also, both of these players are just now being to tap into their immense potential.

oeo
08-14-2008, 01:35 PM
Actually, I looked more into it and it looks like the away stats for Nathan are skewed by an early season. I'd still take K-rod though, he's a monster and younger.

Which is why I'd take K-Rod, too. Nathan is at the top of his game as a 33-year-old. Who knows how much he has left, which is why I think the Twins should have dealt him this past offseason, instead of re-signing him...but I'm not complaining.

Jimmy Piersall
08-14-2008, 01:41 PM
Starting pitcher all the way...Santana,Webb,Lincecum would be the ones to pick from.

BigP50
08-14-2008, 01:46 PM
Starting pitcher all the way...Santana,Webb,Lincecum would be the ones to pick from.


ooooooo, Webb, that would be great if we got him

Crede24Thome25
08-14-2008, 01:51 PM
The Freak Tim Lincecum.

JermaineDye05
08-14-2008, 01:53 PM
Jake Peavy. The guy is a beast on the mound.

PaleHoser
08-14-2008, 02:06 PM
The centerfielder from any of the other AL Central teams:

Cleveland - Sizemore
Detroit - Granderson
Kansas City - DeJesus
Minnesota - Span/Gomez

IMO, any one of those four guys makes us ALOT better.

russ99
08-14-2008, 05:33 PM
Hitter: Jose Reyes - we got enough big boppers in the lineup, we need a leadoff/steal threat.

Pitcher: Roy Oswalt

Eddo144
08-14-2008, 05:51 PM
The centerfielder from any of the other AL Central teams:

Cleveland - Sizemore
Detroit - Granderson
Kansas City - DeJesus
Minnesota - Span/Gomez

IMO, any one of those four guys makes us ALOT better.
Sizemore for sure - he's emerged as a true slugger.
Granderson, too - though I think he's a tad overrated.
DeJesus, arguably - he's been a pleasant surprise for the Royals.
Span, arguably - he's only played 50 games though (and only 9 in CF).
Gomez, yeah right - his only way to get on base is by bunting. Hawk may gush over him, but he makes out over 70% of the time.

PaleHoser
08-14-2008, 06:03 PM
Gomez, yeah right - his only way to get on base is by bunting. Hawk may gush over him, but he makes out over 70% of the time.

That would make him a .300 hitter :wink:. His average is still higher than anyone we've played in CF this season.

Your point on Span is valid, but how many games did Swisher play in CF before the Sox put him there? He still looks awfully good - but so did Jacque Jones when he played for the Twins.

IMO, they're all better defenders, hit for higher average, capable of hitting at the top of the order and overall improvements over what we have now.

Eddo144
08-14-2008, 06:52 PM
That would make [Gomez] a .300 hitter :wink:. His average is still higher than anyone we've played in CF this season.
Wrong. It makes him a sub-.300 OBP guy. The league average OBP is .330, meaning that a mediocre player makes an out only 67% of the time. Carlos Gomez's OBP is .290, meaning he makes an out 71% of the time.

To put it bluntly, that's the difference between a .260 hitter and a .300 hitter. Carlos Gomez is not a good hitter.

EDIT: His batting average is .254.

hose
08-14-2008, 09:26 PM
Roy Halladay

ChiSoxFan7
08-14-2008, 09:29 PM
i know the post says just one but i'm gonna be greedy.


CC for a SP
KROD....him and jenks.....wow.
and then for the position player it would have to be Josh Hamilton. Young, talented, great great story and hearing him tlak i think he just sounds like that protypical whitesox player with the swing to match:redface: but really...he's a freak.

pczarapa
08-14-2008, 09:35 PM
Josh Hamilton or Hanley Ramirez

thomas35forever
08-14-2008, 09:39 PM
Grady Sizemore. Our CF issue would be solved in the long-term.

Scottiehaswheels
08-14-2008, 10:11 PM
I'd have to go with A-Rod but Price (last years top draft pick by the Rays) would look pretty good to take over Jose's spot. Maybe Edinson Volquez?

asindc
08-14-2008, 10:39 PM
i'm surprised i'm the first to mention Roy Halladay. Leads the majors in complete games (something our bullpen could use) and has more then most teams entire pitching staffs. Has to be the most underrated pitcher in baseball

When I read the thread title, I immediately thought Halladay for the same reasons.

seventyseven
08-15-2008, 12:13 AM
Pitcher: Roy Oswalt

You must not have watched many Astros games this year.

soxfanreggie
08-15-2008, 01:42 AM
I think it depends on how long this player can be signed for. If they are just poached for a year, that's a lot different than having someone to build a team with for 5-7 years.

Britt Burns
08-15-2008, 02:11 AM
Hanley Ramirez.

Mohoney
08-15-2008, 02:20 AM
I'm surprised someone said they want Nathan over K-rod.

Make your primary rival weaker. Without Nathan, the Twins are probably 3 or 4 games back right now.

Maybe Nathan isn't as important as Morneau or Mauer, but he's damn close. Look at how discombobulated our bullpen is without Linebrink. Imagine Minnesota's bullpen without Nathan.

DoItForDanPasqua
08-15-2008, 02:36 PM
Hanley Ramirez.

Agreed. A guy who can hit for power and steal bases from the shortstop position is extremely valuable and would give a huge boost to the Sox lineup. Especially since it seems that Orlando Cabrera is only here for one year and isn't a tenth of the player Ramirez is. A Ramirez/Ramirez double play combo would be great.

PeoriaSoxFan
08-15-2008, 03:02 PM
Without a doubt, Grady Sizemore. He feels two glaring needs: CF and a speeedy leadoff hitter, who can also hit & with power. Maybe KW can find his clone somewhere out there like he did with TCQ.