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2906
08-11-2008, 11:26 AM
Rotoworld cites the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, saying minor league relief pitcher Franklyn German has been traded from the Pirates to the White Sox for a player to be named later.

Great arm, poor control.

soltrain21
08-11-2008, 11:29 AM
So is he on the team now, or what?

doublem23
08-11-2008, 11:30 AM
Great arm, poor control.

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_213680.jpg
Brothers from different mothers!

2906
08-11-2008, 11:34 AM
So is he on the team now, or what?

It didn't say, I'm guessing there'll be further details when it hits the White Sox site.

I believe the White Sox are at 40 on the 40 man roster with the addition of Getz. So, if German is added to the 40 man someone will have to go, or someone will get transferred to the 60 day DL.

patbooyah
08-11-2008, 11:35 AM
hey, i posted that on rotoworld. the post-gazette had it in their notes, but it hasn't hit the MLB transaction site yet, so we can't post it as an official trade.

that being said, odds are the post-gazette is right and that he's on the sox.

102605
08-11-2008, 11:36 AM
More insurance. Likely to go to AAA?

patbooyah
08-11-2008, 11:38 AM
More insurance. Likely to go to AAA?

yes. been assigned there.

kjhanson
08-11-2008, 11:38 AM
Franklyn German does have nasty stuff. I remember him in Oakland's organization and then onto Detroit, where he was pitiful. In 2003 he walked 45 guys in 44.7 innings.

I had no clue he was in the Pirates organization, but Baseball Reference shows that he pitched 21.7 innings with the Rangers earlier this year. 1-3 with a 2.08 ERA. Walks were still up, but that ERA sure was nice. Then Pittsburgh acquired him and he's down in the minors? I'd think they could use a guy with a 2.08 ERA in the major leagues.

I wouldn't put him anywhere near a close major league ballgame anytime soon, but he does have an electric arm and a 3.20 ERA in his last 93 Major League innings. Good move, and of course, time for the "Coop can fix him" chant.

patbooyah
08-11-2008, 11:41 AM
Franklyn German does have nasty stuff. I remember him in Oakland's organization and then onto Detroit, where he was pitiful. In 2003 he walked 45 guys in 44.7 innings.

I had no clue he was in the Pirates organization, but Baseball Reference shows that he pitched 21.7 innings with the Rangers earlier this year. 1-3 with a 2.08 ERA. Walks were still up, but that ERA sure was nice. Then Pittsburgh acquired him and he's down in the minors? I'd think they could use a guy with a 2.08 ERA in the major leagues.

I wouldn't put him anywhere near a close major league ballgame anytime soon, but he does have an electric arm and a 3.20 ERA in his last 93 Major League innings. Good move, and of course, time for the "Coop can fix him" chant.

yeah, it's strange - the rangers DFA'd him and he cleared waivers. they outrighted him but he decided to become a free agent. he signed with pittsburgh, and it's somewhat surprising he didn't reach the majors again.

still, that K/BB ratio is pretty ugly, and will have to be improved upon.

Carolina Kenny
08-11-2008, 11:44 AM
Franklyn German does have nasty stuff. I remember him in Oakland's organization and then onto Detroit, where he was pitiful. In 2003 he walked 45 guys in 44.7 innings.

I had no clue he was in the Pirates organization, but Baseball Reference shows that he pitched 21.7 innings with the Rangers earlier this year. 1-3 with a 2.08 ERA. Walks were still up, but that ERA sure was nice. Then Pittsburgh acquired him and he's down in the minors? I'd think they could use a guy with a 2.08 ERA in the major leagues.

I wouldn't put him anywhere near a close major league ballgame anytime soon, but he does have an electric arm and a 3.20 ERA in his last 93 Major League innings. Good move, and of course, time for the "Coop can fix him" chant.

Please check your records to see if he has ever pitched for KC.
We only accept pitchers who have previously pitched for the Royals.

thanks,

officerron
08-11-2008, 11:48 AM
28 years old, 6'7 260lbs. The bigger, the better, right?

I'm guessing this was a minor move that didn't require anybody worth a damn from our side.

jabrch
08-11-2008, 11:50 AM
Sounds like a challenge Coop loves...

officerron
08-11-2008, 11:52 AM
Sounds like a challenge Coop loves...

If he's in AAA, Coop won't be able to do anything with him....

jabrch
08-11-2008, 11:59 AM
If he's in AAA, Coop won't be able to do anything with him....

Why not? You don't think Coop has influence on how guys are coached organizationally? You don't think he has input into what guys we acquire and why?

He won't see him much - but that doesn't mean he can't provide input.

Daver
08-11-2008, 12:02 PM
Sounds like a challenge Coop loves...

More a Kirk Champion project.

kevingrt
08-11-2008, 12:04 PM
It didn't say, I'm guessing there'll be further details when it hits the White Sox site.

I believe the White Sox are at 40 on the 40 man roster with the addition of Getz. So, if German is added to the 40 man someone will have to go, or someone will get transferred to the 60 day DL.

Well won't Contreras be off the 40 man roster because he will go on the 60 day DL. Or have you already accounted for that.

officerron
08-11-2008, 12:09 PM
Why not? You don't think Coop has influence on how guys are coached organizationally? You don't think he has input into what guys we acquire and why?

He won't see him much - but that doesn't mean he can't provide input.

He can tell the AAA coaches what to help him with or what to focus on, but it's not the traditional "Coop will fix him" hands on approach of '07 when we had Aardsma, Sisco, Masset, etc in front of him to work with.

UofCSoxFan
08-11-2008, 12:30 PM
Don't know that I've ever seen Franklin spelled with a Y. That has to count for something right?

Rockabilly
08-11-2008, 12:40 PM
if he can't make the Pirates pitching staff.. I highly doubt he would do much for us..

TomBradley72
08-11-2008, 01:14 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_213680.jpg
Brothers from different mothers!

How far has this guy fallen? We're completely bailing water, and we're on our 5th call up from Charlotte this year...and he's not even close to helping us.

wxkid23
08-11-2008, 01:45 PM
I like this pickup. At the very least someone to have as insurance and maybe we can work on his control issues. Does anyone know how hard he throws?

Jim Shorts
08-11-2008, 01:49 PM
I like this pickup. At the very least someone to have as insurance and maybe we can work on his control issues. Does anyone know how hard he throws?

Think it's a coincidence that they acquired this guy, right before the KC series?

balke
08-11-2008, 01:59 PM
Ha, I found a scouting report from 2002 for him. Says he throws 95-95 consistantly, and can hit 99.

If he hasn't made it in the MLB yet, I doubt he will. Sounds like he'd only be a RP option, and if he has no control... he won't fit in here.

EDIT: after more research, there's some hope that if he just throws strikes that he could be a good BP option. I wouldn't be surprised to see him up soon. It just doesn't look terribly promising that a guy with that stuff has a near 1:1 K:BB

palehozenychicty
08-11-2008, 02:02 PM
It feels like a waste of time. Just my two cents worth.

wxkid23
08-11-2008, 02:03 PM
Think it's a coincidence that they acquired this guy, right before the KC series?

I really doubt we see him up here. We have no time right now to have projects in uniform.

KyWhiSoxFan
08-11-2008, 02:12 PM
I sure hope we gave them MacDougal in exchange for this guy. They sound the same: Big, tall, rangy guy who flaps his arms all over the place and can't find the strike zone.

The Immigrant
08-11-2008, 04:13 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2214/2413320225_0fa03735dc.jpg?v=0

This guy is gonna keep the Bertucci Boys reeeeally busy.

turners56
08-11-2008, 04:26 PM
Rotoworld cites the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, saying minor league relief pitcher Franklyn German has been traded from the Pirates to the White Sox for a player to be named later.

Great arm, poor control.

I don't see the point. Franklyn German used to be with the Tigers and sucked.

tstrike2000
08-11-2008, 04:28 PM
I don't see the point. Franklyn German used to be with the Tigers and sucked.

Possible low risk, high reward.

oeo
08-11-2008, 04:32 PM
I don't see the point. Franklyn German used to be with the Tigers and sucked.

What was the point in signing Bobby Jenks? Why did they trade for Matt Thornton?

More recently (and probably a closer comparison), what was the point of signing DJ Carrasco?

I don't really understand the deal some of you are making out of it. Maybe the guy never reaches the big leagues for us. At the same time, maybe they found the flaw in his delivery as to why he can't consistently throw the ball over the plate. Either way, who cares? I'm sure we're not going to give up anything worthwhile. Something else to whine about, I guess. :dunno:

The Critic
08-11-2008, 04:32 PM
Don't know that I've ever seen Franklin spelled with a Y. That has to count for something right?

Yeah, like "Y did the Sox acquire this guy?"

hose
08-11-2008, 04:38 PM
Better get a bigger buffet table.:o:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2214/2413320225_0fa03735dc.jpg?v=0

Daver
08-11-2008, 04:42 PM
They can finally re-use all those Carlos Castillo uniforms.

turners56
08-11-2008, 04:47 PM
What was the point in signing Bobby Jenks? Why did they trade for Matt Thornton?

More recently (and probably a closer comparison), what was the point of signing DJ Carrasco?

I don't really understand the deal some of you are making out of it. Maybe the guy never reaches the big leagues for us. At the same time, maybe they found the flaw in his delivery as to why he can't consistently throw the ball over the plate. Either way, who cares? I'm sure we're not going to give up anything worthwhile. Something else to whine about, I guess. :dunno:

Jenks and Thornton were actually high draft picks who do have a secondary pitch. German just throws fast...

oeo
08-11-2008, 04:57 PM
Jenks and Thornton were actually high draft picks who do have a secondary pitch. German just throws fast...

They all have something in common: no one wanted them.

And it shouldn't matter...high draft pick or not. Jenks was a complete head case with an injury history, and Thornton was just complete garbage (much like this guy, he couldn't get the ball over the plate). Also, apparently he does more than 'throw fast,' he just can't throw strikes.

kjhanson
08-11-2008, 05:09 PM
Scouting report for German from 2002:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/downonthefarm/1474765.html

"...he projects as a fireballing closer in the Armando Benitez mode if he keeps his command together."

KRS1
08-11-2008, 05:23 PM
Jenks and Thornton were actually high draft picks who do have a secondary pitch. German just throws fast...

Apparently you haven't seen him because his offspeed stuff is downright filthy too. However, like others have already said, he can't get it over the plate with consistency.

KyWhiSoxFan
08-11-2008, 07:05 PM
I wonder who we gave up for this guy?

Lorenzo Barcelo
08-11-2008, 07:44 PM
Its funny because baseball-reference.com list him as only 170lb!:scratch:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/germafr01.shtml

FedEx227
08-11-2008, 07:49 PM
Major League # 2008 w/Texas

21.7 IP
18 H
15 K
13 BB
2.08 ERA
1.43 WHIP

Pass. Looks like he's gotten real lucky to have no given up as many runs as he has, that WHIP is disgusting for a reliever. For perspective Boone Logan had a WHIP of 1.56. I got to see him first hand a few weeks ago in Indianapolis, he's basically a fat Mike MacDougal, will blow some guys away with his fastball, but when he gets into trouble, he REALLY gets into trouble.

His numbers with the Indians this year: 27.2 IP, 24 H, 22 K, 17 BB, 3.58 ERA, 1.51 WHIP

Meh. Wonder who we gave up to get him, because those numbers are not very impressive.

delben91
08-11-2008, 07:51 PM
Major League # 2008 w/Texas

21.7 IP
18 H
15 K
13 BB
2.08 ERA
1.43 WHIP

Pass. Looks like he's gotten real lucky to have no given up as many runs as he has, that WHIP is disgusting for a reliever. For perspective Boone Logan had a WHIP of 1.56.

So he isn't even good enough to be AAA filler in the off chance they catch lightning in a bottle?

Man, come on people, he'll probably just in Charlotte, so what's the harm?

FedEx227
08-11-2008, 08:13 PM
Like I said, I'll hold off judgment until I see who we gave up, but if by chance he makes it to the majors don't expect anything besides Andy Sisco and Mike MacDougal in fat-form which doesn't help the minor leagues one bit.

Also, can't young guys be minor league filler? Why does minor league filler have to be in the form of out-of-shape, last 20s, bad ex-ALC relievers?

Brewski
08-12-2008, 01:19 AM
Don't know that I've ever seen Franklin spelled with a Y. That has to count for something right?

http://nwfolk.com/franklyn.html

Franklyn MacCormack. Great old WGN all night radio guy. ("I love you not for what you are, but for what I am when I am with you." and other such poetry, read to the background of dreamy music.) Nighttime radio men George Stone, Jay Andres, Chicago Eddie, Franklyn, where are their likes today?