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thomas35forever
08-07-2008, 11:20 PM
Oh well. Bring on the Carmines.

102605
08-07-2008, 11:21 PM
Not pretty. Oh well who cares. We took 2 of 3 from Detroit and regained the division lead this series.

Keep winning series and the playoffs will include the White Sox.

LoveYourSuit
08-07-2008, 11:21 PM
Once again we go for the feet instead of the throat.

This has the makings of a 85-87 win team, let's hope that will be enough to get us in.

kittle42
08-07-2008, 11:21 PM
Crap game. Blame all around.

It would be nice to see two consecutive quality starts sometime.

Patrick134
08-07-2008, 11:21 PM
A nice series win as the Twinkies had a series loss. Red Sox are a poor road club, we should take 3 of 4.

Tragg
08-07-2008, 11:22 PM
Poorly managed - that's becoming a refrain. Bring back Cora.

The top of the order isn't helping either - they're horrible. A cumulative total of 3 walks in the last 10 games. I kinow Ozzie wants his hitters hacking, but those 2 are ridiculous.

kittle42
08-07-2008, 11:22 PM
Not pretty. Oh well who cares. We took 2 of 3 from Detroit and regained the division lead this series.

Keep winning series and the playoffs will include the White Sox.

Yes, but they don't "keep" winning series.

Frankie5Angels
08-07-2008, 11:22 PM
Pitching matchups favor Boston in the series coming up. I will be happy to spilt.

LoveYourSuit
08-07-2008, 11:22 PM
A nice series win as the Twinkies had a series loss. Red Sox are a poor road club, we should take 3 of 4.


Really, with out pitching?

I will be thrilled with a split this weekend.

kittle42
08-07-2008, 11:22 PM
A nice series win as the Twinkies had a series loss. Red Sox are a poor road club, we should take 3 of 4.

How? Are we planning on signing some pitchers in the next few days?

LoveYourSuit
08-07-2008, 11:23 PM
Yes, but they don't "keep" winning series.

That 4-6 road trip never happened.

Patrick134
08-07-2008, 11:23 PM
Pitching matchups favor Boston in the series coming up. I will be happy to spilt.


They favor Boston if you get all your baseball news from ESPN. In the real world, I'll take our Sox in this series.

Pear-Zin-Ski
08-07-2008, 11:23 PM
Inability to capitalize with runners in scoring position (MULTIPLE TIMES!!!!!) + Sending Thome home + Wasserman's inability to get out of an inning untouched = A White Sox Loss

Oh well...Paulie looked pretty good...and Javy wasn't in self-destruct mode...not good enough to win it for us...but enough to keep us in it....

Go get those other Sox tomorrow guys!

LoveYourSuit
08-07-2008, 11:24 PM
Inability to capitalize with runners in scoring position (MULTIPLE TIMES!!!!!) + Sending Thome home + Wasserman's inability to get out of an inning untouched = A White Sox Loss

Oh well...Paulie looked pretty good...and Javy wasn't in self-destruct mode...not good enough to win it for us...but enough to keep us in it....

Go get those other Sox tomorrow guys!


Yup, the only positive I got tonight was Konerko hacking the ball with authority.

turners56
08-07-2008, 11:25 PM
That was a fugly game. We squandered way too many chances. Raburn won this game for the Tigers with a misplay on Konerko's double and then a game saving catch. If Raburn plays the double right, Thome doesn't get waved in. It's just bad luck.

Frankie5Angels
08-07-2008, 11:25 PM
They favor Boston if you get all your baseball news from ESPN. In the real world, I'll take our Sox in this series.
No they favor Boston regardless where you get your info from. Look at the stats.

DickAllen72
08-07-2008, 11:25 PM
Did anyone really expect the Sox to sweep Detroit in a "big" game with Javy on the mound? He's not a big game pitcher. In big games, he pitches just well enough to lose.

Griffey has no business playing in the field. He should be a pinch hitter and Sunday DH only.

Let's take at least three from Boston.

oeo
08-07-2008, 11:25 PM
Poorly managed - that's becoming a refrain. Bring back Cora.

I hope you're joking because Cora is awful. He was very fortunate to win the first game of this series.

kittle42
08-07-2008, 11:26 PM
No they favor Boston regardless where you get your info from. Look at the stats.

Boston does have the same road record as the Sox, so we have that going for us. :D:

SOXBOY
08-07-2008, 11:26 PM
Oh well it didn't turn out the way I would of liked but after the Royals series 2 out of 3 from the Tigers isn't bad.

Konerko05
08-07-2008, 11:26 PM
I don't usually do this, but a couple things I want to say right now.

Javier Vasquez, I have officially given up on you. I do not have any faith in him pitching well in any big games, and I hate to break to Vasquez but the rest of our games are big games. Maybe he should go pitch for Washington.

Cox..... do I really have to say anything about that?

Guillen.... was he trying to give the Tigers as many runs as possible? Let's intentionally put on base runners for the 2007 AL batting champ, and while were at it we might as well let him face Ehren Wasserman.

Why is Dwayne Wise pinch hitting for anybody? Yeah and I said that before a pitch was even thrown to him. Where the hell was Jermaine Dye?

kittle42
08-07-2008, 11:26 PM
I hope you're joking because Cora is awful. He was very fortunate to win the first game of this series.

That first game was horribly mismanaged. I was bashing my head against my hand in the stands.

thomas35forever
08-07-2008, 11:26 PM
I hope you're joking because Cora is awful. He was very fortunate to win the first game of this series.
Agreed. He had no business letting Thornton come out for the 14th.

kittle42
08-07-2008, 11:27 PM
Agreed. He had no business letting Thornton come out for the 14th.

One of the worst moves of the season so far with Russell fresh in the pen.

Tragg
08-07-2008, 11:28 PM
I hope you're joking because Cora is awful. He was very fortunate to win the first game of this series.
yea he was - but we would have had no chance without him - he lifted the starter before he reached double figures in hits.

BTW, I know Cora's no coach. I've been asking for a year for Ozzie to trade one of his yes-men for a real coach on the offensive side.

Frankfan4life
08-07-2008, 11:28 PM
In my opinion bad pitching lost this game. Javy needed to give us a quality start and we needed a hold from the BP. After Danks' pitching gem yesterday, this was quite the let down. Nevertheless, I do think we will take the next series.

LoveYourSuit
08-07-2008, 11:28 PM
Did anyone really expect the Sox to sweep Detroit in a "big" game with Javy on the mound? He's not a big game pitcher. In big games, he pitches just well enough to lose.

Griffey has no business playing in the field. He should be a pinch hitter and Sunday DH only.

Let's take at least three from Boston.


Can't wait for Ozzie to see this to him at his face.


Will never happen.

Ozzie had the patience with Konerko for this long, you think he will pull the plug on a future hall of famer in 6 games?

Frankie5Angels
08-07-2008, 11:29 PM
Boston does have the same road record as the Sox, so we have that going for us. :D:
They aren't the best road team. But the pitching matchups favor the Red Sox.BOS: J. Lester (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7790) (10-3, 3.14)
CWS: M. Buehrle (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6525) (8-10, 4.07)

BOS: D. Matsuzaka (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7906) (12-2, 3.04)
CWS: J. Contreras (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7043) (7-6, 4.60)

BOS: C. Buchholz (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8090) (2-7, 5.94)
CWS: G. Floyd (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7297) (11-6, 3.66)

BOS: J. Beckett (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6403) (10-8, 4.08)
CWS: J. Danks (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7808) (9-4, 3.21)


I'll take a split

thomas35forever
08-07-2008, 11:30 PM
They aren't the best road team. But the pitching matchups favor the Red Sox.BOS: J. Lester (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7790) (10-3, 3.14)
CWS: M. Buehrle (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6525) (8-10, 4.07)

BOS: D. Matsuzaka (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7906) (12-2, 3.04)
CWS: J. Contreras (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7043) (7-6, 4.60)

BOS: C. Buchholz (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8090) (2-7, 5.94)
CWS: G. Floyd (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7297) (11-6, 3.66)

BOS: J. Beckett (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6403) (10-8, 4.08)
CWS: J. Danks (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7808) (9-4, 3.21)


I'll take a split
Same here. Our best chances to win will come in the second half of the series.

Tragg
08-07-2008, 11:30 PM
Why is Dwayne Wise pinch hitting for anybody?
The same reason Darin Erstad hit 2nd and 5th all last year...Guillen thinks he can hit.
Wise hasn't had a meaningful hit in a month.

Frankie5Angels
08-07-2008, 11:32 PM
Same here. Our best chances to win will come in the second half of the series.
I agree. Sunday and Monday we have the pitching advantage when you look at the numbers. I would love to steal one either tomorrow or Saturday against Dice K. The Twins will be playing KC, so hopefully they can win at least one.

LoveYourSuit
08-07-2008, 11:32 PM
They aren't the best road team. But the pitching matchups favor the Red Sox.BOS: J. Lester (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7790) (10-3, 3.14)
CWS: M. Buehrle (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6525) (8-10, 4.07)

BOS: D. Matsuzaka (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7906) (12-2, 3.04)
CWS: J. Contreras (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7043) (7-6, 4.60)

BOS: C. Buchholz (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8090) (2-7, 5.94)
CWS: G. Floyd (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7297) (11-6, 3.66)

BOS: J. Beckett (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6403) (10-8, 4.08)
CWS: J. Danks (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7808) (9-4, 3.21)


I'll take a split


How dare you dog our Sox?

Floyd is the only one we favor there.

Danks Beckett is a toss up.

Frankie5Angels
08-07-2008, 11:34 PM
How dare you dog our Sox?

Floyd is the only one we favor there.

Danks Beckett is a toss up.
LOL

I am a die hard Whitesox fan. But you have to be objective. I would love to sweep, but I will be happy with a split. Especially with the Twins playing KC. I will be happy if we are only 1/2 game out of first going into Mondays game.

White City
08-07-2008, 11:34 PM
If Buehrle steps up and the early season Contreras makes another appearance, then you have to like our chances to take the series. I think we definitely get at least 1 of the final two games, but we need a big surprise from Contreras or (AND?) Buehrle to make ESPN cry.

kittle42
08-07-2008, 11:35 PM
They aren't the best road team. But the pitching matchups favor the Red Sox.BOS: J. Lester (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7790) (10-3, 3.14)
CWS: M. Buehrle (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6525) (8-10, 4.07)

BOS: D. Matsuzaka (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7906) (12-2, 3.04)
CWS: J. Contreras (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7043) (7-6, 4.60)

BOS: C. Buchholz (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8090) (2-7, 5.94)
CWS: G. Floyd (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7297) (11-6, 3.66)

BOS: J. Beckett (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6403) (10-8, 4.08)
CWS: J. Danks (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7808) (9-4, 3.21)


I'll take a split

Slightly better if you take home/road splits:

Lester 4-2, 3.48
Buehrle 5-3, 3.15

Matsuzaka 5-0, 2.20
Contreras 4-3, 3.34

Buchholz 0-5, 7.68
Floyd 7-2, 2.93

Beckett 5-5, 3.38
Danks 4-3, 3.78

Patrick134
08-07-2008, 11:35 PM
LOL

I am a die hard Whitesox fan. But you have to be objective. I would love to sweep, but I will be happy with a split. Especially with the Twins playing KC. I iwll be happy if we are only 1/2 game out of first come going into Mondays game.


Um, the Twins are not a good road team, and the Royals are the 27 Yankees compared to the Mariners team that just beat the Twins in that series.

kittle42
08-07-2008, 11:37 PM
Um, the Twins are not a good road team, and the Royals are the 27 Yankees compared to the Mariners team that just beat the Twins in that series.

Both these things are true.

It's Time
08-07-2008, 11:38 PM
Um, the Twins are not a good road team, and the Royals are the 27 Yankees compared to the Mariners team that just beat the Twins in that series.

Doesn't matter. Every series is different. I look for the Royals to 100% lay down against the Twins.

Frankie5Angels
08-07-2008, 11:38 PM
Um, the Twins are not a good road team, and the Royals are the 27 Yankees compared to the Mariners team that just beat the Twins in that series.
They are 7-2 against KC. 5-1 at KC.

The 27 Yankees?? Give me a break.

102605
08-07-2008, 11:39 PM
Yes, but they don't "keep" winning series.

Have they not won more than they lost? How about a glass of optimism before you go off to bed?

kittle42
08-07-2008, 11:40 PM
Have they not won more than they lost? How about a glass of optimism before you go off to bed?

Keep implies that they have been doing it consistently. They have not, particularly since the break. Hard to do when the pitching staff's ERA is like 6.00 in the last 3-4 weeks.

Patrick134
08-07-2008, 11:42 PM
Keep implies that they have been doing it consistently. They have not, particularly since the break. Hard to do when the pitching staff's ERA is like 6.00 in the last 3-4 weeks.


They have won 3 of the last 4 series.

LoveYourSuit
08-07-2008, 11:43 PM
All I hope when the final bell rings at the end of September, those quality start games we lost in the 1st half when only allowing 4 runs or less don't end up counting at the end.

Frankie5Angels
08-07-2008, 11:43 PM
Keep implies that they have been doing it consistently. They have not, particularly since the break. Hard to do when the pitching staff's ERA is like 6.00 in the last 3-4 weeks.
9-10 since the break. We have to pick that up big time. Our starters really need to get back to where they were at the beginning of the year. Hopefully Jose comes back and pitches like he did at the beginning, and MB can shake off the last couple bad starts he has had and starts pitching like he did in June. As for Javy, I have no faith in him at all. I really hope we get rid of him in the offseason.

Frankie5Angels
08-07-2008, 11:44 PM
They have won 3 of the last 4 series.
No they haven't.
Won 2of 3 at Detroit
Lost 3of 4 at Minn
Lost 2of 3 at KC
Won 2of 3 at home against tigers

Konerkoholic
08-07-2008, 11:45 PM
I'm pretty sure they've only won 2 of their last 4 series.

LoveYourSuit
08-07-2008, 11:45 PM
They have won 3 of the last 4 series.


How you figure this, didn't we lose KC and Min last week? :scratch:

Frankie5Angels
08-07-2008, 11:47 PM
How you figure this, didn't we lose KC and Min last week? :scratch:
You are right. I don't know what he is talking about.

DrCrawdad
08-07-2008, 11:50 PM
They aren't the best road team. But the pitching matchups favor the Red Sox.BOS: J. Lester (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7790) (10-3, 3.14)
CWS: M. Buehrle (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6525) (8-10, 4.07)

BOS: D. Matsuzaka (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7906) (12-2, 3.04)
CWS: J. Contreras (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7043) (7-6, 4.60)

BOS: C. Buchholz (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/8090) (2-7, 5.94)
CWS: G. Floyd (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7297) (11-6, 3.66)

BOS: J. Beckett (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/6403) (10-8, 4.08)
CWS: J. Danks (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7808) (9-4, 3.21)


I'll take a split

Two of the four games the pitching match-ups favor the other Sox. How can a Sox fan look at the match-ups and say otherwise?

LoveYourSuit
08-07-2008, 11:50 PM
You are right. I don't know what he is talking about.


Worst part about it too is that we lost a 4 gamer to the team right behind us. That's the one that hurts.


Any Sox fan that doesn't realize that this team has been spinning it's wheels for the last 6 weeks needs to wake up here. Our pitching is in the tank, big time.


My hope is Linebrink making everyone go back to their normal roles in the pen and Contreras all of a sudden finds it again like he did in 2005 2nd half. This happens and we can live with Crappy Javy every 5th day.

Frankie5Angels
08-07-2008, 11:54 PM
Worst part about it too is that we lost a 4 gamer to the team right behind us. That's the one that hurts.


Any Sox fan that doesn't realize that this team has been spinning it's wheels for the last 6 weeks needs to wake up here. Our pitching is in the tank, big time.


My hope is Linebrink making everyone go back to their normal roles in the pen and Contreras all of a sudden finds it again like he did in 2005 2nd half. This happens and we can live with Crappy Javy every 5th day.
The worst thing is that in that 4 gamer we blew two 4-0 leads. That's what really hurts.

I agree. Count needs to come back and be dominant. Javy is a bum. I pray we trade him in the offseason.

LoveYourSuit
08-07-2008, 11:55 PM
Two of the four games the pitching match-ups favor the other Sox. How can a Sox fan look at the match-ups and say otherwise?


The Buehrle game I have to give the slight edge to Lester, especially the way we forget how to hold a bat when a LH pitcher is out there.

Contreras vs Japan .... no contest.

Floyd vs Buchhols ... If we can't win that one then we don't deserve to win any.


Danks vs Beckett .... toss up. Although our offense can feast off flame throwers.


I see it 2-1 Boston and the wild card on Monday.

102605
08-07-2008, 11:55 PM
Keep implies that they have been doing it consistently. They have not, particularly since the break. Hard to do when the pitching staff's ERA is like 6.00 in the last 3-4 weeks.

Alright. So your focusing on a sample that is only 3-4 weeks long. Meanwhile the last time I checked this season is already in its 5th month

Frankie5Angels
08-07-2008, 11:56 PM
The Buehrle game I have to give the slight edge to Lester, especially the way we forget how to hold a bat when a LH pitcher is out there.

Contreras vs Japan .... no contest.

Floyd vs Buchhols ... If we can't win that one then we don't deserve to win any.


Danks vs Beckett .... toss up. Although our offense can feast off flame throwers.


I see it 2-1 Boston and the wild card on Monday.
Have we faced Bucholz before? If we haven't it could be a long day.

LoveYourSuit
08-07-2008, 11:57 PM
Alright. So your focusing on a sample that is only 3-4 weeks long. Meanwhile the last time I checked this season is already in its 5th month


The sample size is the reason we are only a 1/2 game up instead of being 10 up and just working out our injuries to take a healthy staff to the post season.

LoveYourSuit
08-08-2008, 12:01 AM
Have we faced Bucholz before? If we haven't it could be a long day.


What scares me even more whenever that Red Sox comes to town is the fact that it almost feels like we lose our homefield advantage to them. I can't stand that fan base.


Sox fans need to be loud.... AND STOP SELLING YOUR DAMN TICKETS to those jerks.

102605
08-08-2008, 12:01 AM
The sample size is the reason we are only a 1/2 game up instead of being 10 up and just working out our injuries to take a healthy staff to the post season.

10? Really? Have you been paying attention to Minnesota in the past 2 months?

Adele_H
08-08-2008, 12:01 AM
Two of the four games the pitching match-ups favor the other Sox. How can a Sox fan look at the match-ups and say otherwise?

The game is not played on paper.

Considering how our pitching has performed the last few weeks, and given Boston's success at USCF - not to mention their being World Champions, incidentally...

We could get swept if overall level of play is not raised. Yet another test of how prepared this team is for postseason-type pressure.

In other words..... time for Buerhle, Contreras, Griffey, Konerko, Cabrera and Co. to step the **** up.

.

Frankie5Angels
08-08-2008, 12:03 AM
What scares me even more whenever that Red Sox comes to town is the fact that it almost feels like we lose our homefield advantage to them. I can't stand that fan base.


Sox fans need to be loud.... AND STOP SELLING YOUR DAMN TICKETS to those jerks.
I am just glad Manny is gone.

LoveYourSuit
08-08-2008, 12:03 AM
10? Really? Have you been paying attention to Minnesota in the past 2 months?


Yes. Minn has been awesome the 2nd half but we have been equally bad to average.


If we win our games and pitch the way we know we can, Minn and Det would not be a factor right now. Even with the "historic" run these Twins have gone on.

SBSoxFan
08-08-2008, 12:05 AM
Two of the four games the pitching match-ups favor the other Sox. How can a Sox fan look at the match-ups and say otherwise?

Because they're the same Sox fans who look at the Red Sox road record and the Sox home record, and think the Sox will be lucky to split.

Adele_H
08-08-2008, 12:06 AM
Crap game. Blame all around.

It would be nice to see two consecutive quality starts sometime.


:vazquez:

"Move along, folks nothing to see - just me being me"




..

LoveYourSuit
08-08-2008, 12:09 AM
All was not lost tonight.

Paul Konerko appeared to have found a little something on his swing tonight. Just on time for this Boston series where I think we will need to mash them to death to survive. This series IMO will be a battle of which team has the best fire power on offense.

kittle42
08-08-2008, 12:28 AM
Alright. So your focusing on a sample that is only 3-4 weeks long. Meanwhile the last time I checked this season is already in its 5th month

When the pitching starts looking normal again, I will hear out your argument.

Hitmen77
08-08-2008, 12:29 AM
A nice series win as the Twinkies had a series loss. Red Sox are a poor road club, we should take 3 of 4.

How? Are we planning on signing some pitchers in the next few days?

That and hire thugs to break the knee caps of the Red Sox pitchers.

WhiteSox5187
08-08-2008, 12:34 AM
When the pitching starts looking normal again, I will hear out your argument.
I'm starting to think the way the pitching staff looks now might be the norm until the end of the season. I think Buerhle can turn it around, but I have no faith in Javy or Jose. And Danks and Floyd have never pitched this many innings before.

Adele_H
08-08-2008, 12:51 AM
When the pitching starts looking normal again, I will hear out your argument.





:vazquez:

"You mean losing both life & control of a fastball when having to pitch out of the stretch with runners on base, and generally telegraphing a change-up... is NOT normal? I'll be damned"




.

Hitmen77
08-08-2008, 12:52 AM
Typical outcome for Sox and Javy. Can't close out the sweep and Javy isn't terrible, but makes just enough mistakes to hurt us.

Also typical is the squandered scoring opportunities. Bases loaded, 1 out...and we don't score. Zumaya comes in and walks Swisher to start the 7th...and then Uribe swings at the first pitch and hits into a double play. Konerko's double should give us 2nd and 3rd, 1 out....and we send Thome home to get thrown out by a mile.

Only if Alexei's line shot could have only fallen in for a hit in the 8th, maybe we have a different outcome. We go to the 9th in a 5-5 tie...perhaps Russell doesn't come in in that situation. Hawk really messed with me there by screaming "base hit!" just before the LF makes the diving catch. :angry:

DrCrawdad
08-08-2008, 01:06 AM
In my experience many of the other Sox "fans" at The Cell are often in reality Cubbie fans sporting their fresh from the store other Sox paraphernalia. I wouldn't say it's a majority of them but I'd guess 20-30 percent are Cubbie fans playing dress-up.

Adele_H
08-08-2008, 01:10 AM
Zumaya comes in and walks Swisher to start the 7th...and then Uribe swings at the first pitch and hits into a double play




I don't have as much of a problem with Uribe swinging there. I mean, he is a fastball hitter who needs to be reasonably aggressive to be effective. Further, Juan's been having a lot of problems batting with 2 strikes on him lately. His thinking must have been that after walking Swisher, Zumaya would be looking to get ahead in the count quickly with a get-me-over fastball... and he was right.

The problem is when you zone someone in like Juan did but forget to dial them up, so to speak. In other words, in that situation, you can't get jammed into a DP. You either smoke the pitch you were looking for down the line as Cabrera did against Vazquez earlier (a pitch that wasn't even a strike), whether it goes fair or foul, hopefully the former...... or you don't swing. Can't get caught in between like Juan did.

.

Cuck the Fubs
08-08-2008, 01:39 AM
I don't care for the fact the Sox keep missing the chance to bury the 2008 for Tigers for good. Many chances to do so, all missed.

That being said they did win 2 of 3, and the goal from here on out has to be to win every series.

These next couple of weeks are critical with Twins on the road, the Sox need to take advantage of this to put the Twins in a hole.

Let's take it to the Red Sox this weekend!

doublem23
08-08-2008, 01:48 AM
The Tigers are dead... They're 7.5 GB and their bullpen is in complete disarray. It's going to take a miracle for them to get back in this thing, the only team the Sox need to worry about is Minnesota because they're a bunch of pesky mother****ers.

The Dude
08-08-2008, 02:10 AM
Inability to capitalize with runners in scoring position (MULTIPLE TIMES!!!!!) + Sending Thome home + Wasserman's inability to get out of an inning untouched = A White Sox Loss

Oh well...Paulie looked pretty good...and Javy wasn't in self-destruct mode...not good enough to win it for us...but enough to keep us in it....

Go get those other Sox tomorrow guys!

Perfect post. Exactly what transpired tonight. Absolutely pathetic all around besides PK and Javy.

By the way, I hate the Boston Red Sox fans more than any fans on the planet. Beat them good Sox cause I will not be there at all.

BUMMER
08-08-2008, 05:41 AM
I don't care for the fact the Sox keep missing the chance to bury the 2008 for Tigers for good. Many chances to do so, all missed.

That being said they did win 2 of 3, and the goal from here on out has to be to win every series.

These next couple of weeks are critical with Twins on the road, the Sox need to take advantage of this to put the Twins in a hole.

Let's take it to the Red Sox this weekend!

Good point! All those that are happy with 2 out of 3 and winning series are "settling" Games against division foes Minn & Detr count as two in the GB column. (Games we may wish we had in the bank come Sept). Same goes for upcoming games w/ Bost, NY, & TBay as possible wild-card rivals. With only about 50 games left, I'd like to see around 30 wins which gets us to 93 and probably into the postseason (IMO). There'll be games where we have no chance and just flat out get beat, but games like last night where a key hit or eliminating some mistakes (Cox), that could turn a loss into a win, need to be minimized. I like winning series and will accept 2 of 3 if we lose either the 1st or 2nd game. But once we get the first two, I hate to settle for 2 of 3. Go for the juggler - sweep. The Sox need to win as many home games as possible. It would be really nice to be 4 games up the next time they go into the Humpdome. Games like last night work against that.
All that being said, for the Bosox series, I'm looking at winning ALL 4!. Numbers say that won't happen, but that's my hopes. If Boston wins the opener, then I shoot for 3 of 4, etc, etc. White Sox need to pile up about 30 wins and shouldn't settle for splits.

SoxGirl4Life
08-08-2008, 08:39 AM
I'll tell you one thing, this board is very consistent if nothing else! :cool:

At the risk of being ridiculed for thinking positively, here's to good things for our Sox going forward. :gulp:

palehozenychicty
08-08-2008, 09:36 AM
9-10 since the break. We have to pick that up big time. Our starters really need to get back to where they were at the beginning of the year. Hopefully Jose comes back and pitches like he did at the beginning, and MB can shake off the last couple bad starts he has had and starts pitching like he did in June. As for Javy, I have no faith in him at all. I really hope we get rid of him in the offseason.

I'm fine with him being in the rotation, cause he'll be a .500 pitcher, as a #5. I wish, in a bizarro world, that we had the resources to get a definitive ace that'll slide everyone down a notch. Contreras and Javy are consistently inconsistent at best. Alas, that ain't going to happen.

Frankie5Angels
08-08-2008, 12:51 PM
I'm fine with him being in the rotation, cause he'll be a .500 pitcher, as a #5. I wish, in a bizarro world, that we had the resources to get a definitive ace that'll slide everyone down a notch. Contreras and Javy are consistently inconsistent at best. Alas, that ain't going to happen.
I'm not fine with a 12 milllion a year .500 number 5 starter. That money can be spent elsewhere. Trade him this offseason. Use the money on a pitcher who isn't a mental midget.

Adele_H
08-08-2008, 01:21 PM
.But once we get the first two, I hate to settle for 2 of 3. Go for the juggler





http://www.formeetingsolutions.com/images/Juggler.jpg

"Hey, what the hell did I do! You think this is easy? Don't you judge me"




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JB98
08-08-2008, 02:59 PM
The title of the thread should be "poorly pitched," not poorly managed.

Vazquez still sucks. Typical outing from him. Way too many mistakes, five runs allowed in seven innings. But he got his eight strikeouts, so we can all ooh and ahh about his "stuff" and "potential."

Wassermann was a nice story last year, but I don't think he can help us during this pennant drive. He'd be the guy I'd send down when Contreras is activated.

palehozenychicty
08-08-2008, 03:13 PM
I'm not fine with a 12 milllion a year .500 number 5 starter. That money can be spent elsewhere. Trade him this offseason. Use the money on a pitcher who isn't a mental midget.

Wish there was one available.

jabrch
08-08-2008, 03:16 PM
Good point! All those that are happy with 2 out of 3 and winning series are "settling"

And anyone unhappy with it is a complete ignoramus.

JB98
08-08-2008, 03:19 PM
Wish there was one available.

I'm hoping Contreras comes back healthy and effective. If he does, we'll make the playoffs. And then we won't have to bother giving Vazquez a playoff start.

Danks and Floyd are both clearly better than Vazquez. I never would have thought I'd be saying that at the start of the year.

Vazquez hasn't been much help the last two months. He's been outpitched by Zach Miner twice in the last couple weeks.

Tragg
08-08-2008, 03:22 PM
And anyone unhappy with it is a complete ignoramus.
In a pennant race, 2/3 at home against a bad team is kissing your sister.