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EuroSox35
08-05-2008, 07:55 PM
:?:

You couldn't slide over Stone to TV and do the usual sub (like Rongey) for radio? Or is Hawk's ego that bad?

Railsplitter
08-05-2008, 08:37 PM
I'd like to see/hear more from Plesac.

Mots09
08-05-2008, 08:40 PM
For as big of a DB as Plesac is I thought he did a pretty good job adding some substance throughout the game.

MarySwiss
08-05-2008, 08:46 PM
I'd like to see/hear more from Plesac.

For as big of a DB as Plesac is I thought he did a pretty good job adding some substance throughout the game.

Really? I was hoping he'd shut up for just a second or two. Yap, yap, yap; nonstop until I was wishing that Hawk would turn around and slap him.

Get well soon, DJ!

viagracat
08-05-2008, 09:01 PM
Really? I was hoping he'd shut up for just a second or two. Yap, yap, yap; nonstop until I was wishing that Hawk would turn around and slap him.

Get well soon, DJ!

DJ's supposed to be back tomorrow.

Parrothead
08-05-2008, 09:28 PM
Really? I was hoping he'd shut up for just a second or two. Yap, yap, yap; nonstop until I was wishing that Hawk would turn around and slap him.

Get well soon, DJ!

My wish is when Hawk leaves the booth due to the Sox losing, he never comes back...kinda like John Kruk did.

Turn off the sound on the tv and turn on the radio. The game is enjoyable to listen to even when they are losing.

Gavin
08-05-2008, 09:32 PM
I was annoyed with him until he started talking about our bullpen. He definitely gets us.

oeo
08-05-2008, 09:39 PM
He talks WAAAAY too much.

Brian26
08-05-2008, 09:58 PM
I was annoyed with him until he started talking about our bullpen. He definitely gets us.

He won me over when Harrelson asked him if he watched any of the Sox-Twins series and he responded with, "all four games."

CHISOXFAN13
08-05-2008, 10:00 PM
He knows the game. I think this has been a great broadcast.

kba
08-05-2008, 10:38 PM
He knows the game. I think this has been a great broadcast.

I'm enjoying it, too. He does talk too much, but his insights are pretty good and he's more energetic than DJ. He's also much smoother.

sullythered
08-05-2008, 10:41 PM
Better than DJ.

Domeshot17
08-05-2008, 10:56 PM
I like Plesac because he atleast seems to have an idea what hes saying.

Beats 9 of innings of "Well I'll tell ya hawk, (Insert player name) reminds me of when I was in the bigs....(insert pointless DJ story)

Hawk: Oh yah, back when I was on the Carmines (insert player name) was the best at that I have ever seen.

DJ: Can you believe that call, thats not just right

Hawk: NOT RIGHT THATS JUST DOWN RIGHT BS DAGGUMMIT.

(continue with pointless banter, old stories, bitching about umps relentlessly)

Hitmen77
08-05-2008, 11:04 PM
Is DJ sick or something?

Gavin
08-05-2008, 11:11 PM
Is DJ sick or something?

DJ had knee surgery. Doing OK.

DumpJerry
08-05-2008, 11:47 PM
I'd like him better if he scores a run for us.

Seriously though, he's doing a great job.

thedudeabides
08-06-2008, 12:37 AM
I thought he did a nice job. He wasn't afraid to cut off Hawk. He did ramble a bit, but he knew the players and it's nice to have a pitching perspective in the booth.

Tragg
08-06-2008, 12:39 AM
Has he been doing other stuff in the Chicago market for a while?

gogosox16
08-06-2008, 12:39 AM
Am I thinking of the right guy in which does the Cubs pre and post game shows on Comcast?:scratch:

TomBradley72
08-06-2008, 12:43 AM
He was way better than DJ. One of the more enjoyable broadcasts of the season...especially considering this was his 1st game working w/Hawk.

Cuck the Fubs
08-06-2008, 12:50 AM
I have to be honest, prior to this evening I hated the guy.

After tonight, I like him...he was very good and had good knowledge of the White Sox.

Nellie_Fox
08-06-2008, 01:16 AM
I thought he did fine, but he does need to learn when "less is more." It seemed like he felt compelled to fill every moment with commentary.

hawkjt
08-06-2008, 01:24 AM
Nothing wrong with a fresh voice in the booth to change the conversation a bit...dynamic a bit different between Plesac and hawk.
Considering he had to do a five hour game...Plesac hung in there. He did grow up in Hammond or one of those towns over there and was probably a sox fan growing up.

I think he was a bit verklempt at the end when he said

''Thanks Hawk , it was the time of a lifetime'' what???

I think he meant..thrill of a lifetime, or I had the time of my life.
Just kind of funny...probably dead tired.

HangWiffum
08-06-2008, 02:34 AM
love him or hate him, he could not resist doing something that would be a dream for me. he got to say YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES! with hawk.

ZombieRob
08-06-2008, 03:24 AM
i liked what he brought to the table lastnight. Very observant colorman. Knew what he was talking about. I think the talk a lot may have to do with first time jitters.I hope he can do one again down the road. My grade b-

Stringer
08-06-2008, 04:19 AM
Dan is so annoying on the Cubs pre and post game shows

I couldn't stand him before tonight but he did a better job than DJ

I was fairly impressed

hose
08-06-2008, 06:22 AM
He knows the game. I think this has been a great broadcast.


I agree!!

BUMMER
08-06-2008, 07:21 AM
He was way better than DJ. One of the more enjoyable broadcasts of the season...especially considering this was his 1st game working w/Hawk.
Ditto.
Last year when DJ took a leave of absence for his child's birth, Stoney sat in for about a week. Though Stone was obviously way more enjoyable than DJ, I noticed that Hawk was much more on his game without DJ. Last night, I felt the same thing with Plesac. Dan was much more pleasurable than DJ, but again I noticed that Hawk was on top of it also. Is DJ that much of a pill that when others stand in for him, we can notice it in one broadcast? And more importantly, I enjoyed Harrelson's work with Plesac & Stone so much more. Seems DJ is doing more play-by-play this year also and for me, it doesn't work. Bring back Wimpy?

stl_sox_fan
08-06-2008, 07:34 AM
He was trying. Good effort. He got stepped on by Hawk several times due to homers so no big deal. He' not the only one guilty of this, but I grow real tired of the "Man you really hope that that hit/homerun/win/etc will turn the season around" shtick. I recall him saying it after Paulie's blast and on the walk off.

Railsplitter
08-06-2008, 07:37 AM
Really? I was hoping he'd shut up for just a second or two. Yap, yap, yap; nonstop until I was wishing that Hawk would turn around and slap him.

Get well soon, DJ!

At least he was talking about what goes through a pitcher's mind out on the mound. It sure beats tons of annecdotes about Yaz and knowing the pennant winning A's of the 70's when they were raw rookies.

MarySwiss
08-06-2008, 07:59 AM
My wish is when Hawk leaves the booth due to the Sox losing, he never comes back...kinda like John Kruk did.

Turn off the sound on the tv and turn on the radio. The game is enjoyable to listen to even when they are losing.

I did turn off the sound. Radio is not an option in Arizona.

At least he was talking about what goes through a pitcher's mind out on the mound. It sure beats tons of annecdotes about Yaz and knowing the pennant winning A's of the 70's when they were raw rookies.
That's true, and I get sick of the Yaz crap and Twins love also, but I just got tired of hearing someone talking EVERY DAMN SECOND. As someone else said, if he learned that less can be more, he might be okay, although I still thought his voice was somewhat monotonous.

SoxFan78
08-06-2008, 08:05 AM
Waaaaaay too much talking by DP. He just would not shut up. Some of the things he added were nice to hear, but it was just too much to listen to while watching a game.

I never thought I would miss DJ.

Steelrod
08-06-2008, 08:10 AM
He was trying. Good effort. He got stepped on by Hawk several times due to homers so no big deal. He' not the only one guilty of this, but I grow real tired of the "Man you really hope that that hit/homerun/win/etc will turn the season around" shtick. I recall him saying it after Paulie's blast and on the walk off.
Not bad!
Stepping on Hawk par for the course. Hawk didn't nail him, so I guess he likes him..for now!

turners56
08-06-2008, 08:25 AM
I did turn off the sound. Radio is not an option in Arizona.


That's true, and I get sick of the Yaz crap and Twins love also, but I just got tired of hearing someone talking EVERY DAMN SECOND. As someone else said, if he learned that less can be more, he might be okay, although I still thought his voice was somewhat monotonous.

Plesac belongs on the radio.

MeteorsSox4367
08-06-2008, 08:51 AM
Granted, Plesac was a bit long-winded at times, but a good bit of the stuff he said had substance and actually made a point. Plus, Plesac didn't preface statements with "Well, they're gonna go ahead and..." and I don't think he used the phrase "thought process" once.

I just hope DJ takes his time coming back and I know knee surgeries can be tricky. If he wants to take the rest of the season off, that's fine with me.

slavko
08-06-2008, 08:58 AM
Dan is so annoying on the Cubs pre and post game shows

I couldn't stand him before tonight but he did a better job than DJ

I was fairly impressed

Odd mannerisms, phony enthusiasm, one eyebrow higher than the other. He chaps me. I'm sorry I missed the broadcast.

SOXBOY
08-06-2008, 09:08 AM
I think DP did a good job alot better than DJ. I also think I heard that DP is a big Sox fan.

rocky biddle
08-06-2008, 09:14 AM
I was at the game, so I only caught a few innings here and there on the tvs on the Club Level, but from what I heard he sounded alright. He seemed pretty knowledgeable about the Sox, which kind of surprised me. Everytime I hear him on the radio or see him on tv he's doing some unrepentant Cubbie-loving. And considering he owns a racehorse named Ronnie Woo-Woo, I kind of assumed he wouldn't know too much about the baseball club that's not on the Northside.

Isn't DJ's contract up after this year, or did they resolve that?

thedudeabides
08-06-2008, 09:25 AM
I was at the game, so I only caught a few innings here and there on the tvs on the Club Level, but from what I heard he sounded alright. He seemed pretty knowledgeable about the Sox, which kind of surprised me. Everytime I hear him on the radio or see him on tv he's doing some unrepentant Cubbie-loving. And considering he owns a racehorse named Ronnie Woo-Woo, I kind of assumed he wouldn't know too much about the baseball club that's not on the Northside.

Isn't DJ's contract up after this year, or did they resolve that?

He sold that horse. It probably was lame. He does have another horse named He Gone. From what I've heard he grew up a Sox fan and he sounded really excited to do the game last night.

I've heard him on several talk radio shows and I always found him to be pretty funny. He pushes the Cubs right now, but I don't think he would have his job if he didn't.

turners56
08-06-2008, 09:26 AM
He sold that horse. It probably was lame. He does have another horse named He Gone. From what I've heard he grew up a Sox fan and he sounded really excited to do the game last night.

I've heard him on several talk radio shows and I always found him to be pretty funny. He pushes the Cubs right now, but I don't think he would have his job if he didn't.

He actually did the "Yes" with Hawk on the walk-off homer.

Illini Stripes
08-06-2008, 09:27 AM
Very funny! That's my main rub with both Hawk & DJ dog and pony show....to many....and I mean TO MANY pointless stories game after game about their careers. I love Stone and all the insight he brings to the broadcast.

Maybe Hawk/DJ should tune into a Dodgers game sometime and listen to a legend in Vin Scully and learn a few new tricks.


I like Plesac because he atleast seems to have an idea what hes saying.

Beats 9 of innings of "Well I'll tell ya hawk, (Insert player name) reminds me of when I was in the bigs....(insert pointless DJ story)

Hawk: Oh yah, back when I was on the Carmines (insert player name) was the best at that I have ever seen.

DJ: Can you believe that call, thats not just right

Hawk: NOT RIGHT THATS JUST DOWN RIGHT BS DAGGUMMIT.

(continue with pointless banter, old stories, bitching about umps relentlessly)

Save McCuddy's
08-06-2008, 09:34 AM
You would have thought that is was a 10 -2 game last night. Non-stop yapping and filler all night long while we were in the midst of a historically interesting game. Sick.

TomBradley72
08-06-2008, 09:44 AM
I did miss all those great stories about playing in Japan.

I'll give him a break on the "too much talking" thing...this was his 1st game. It took DJ about 2-3 years to become as good as Plesac was in game #1. DJ's a nice guy...mediocre announcer.

TomBradley72
08-06-2008, 09:47 AM
You would have thought that is was a 10 -2 game last night. Non-stop yapping and filler all night long while we were in the midst of a historically interesting game. Sick.

To be fair....it didn't really hint at becoming "historically interesting" until the bottom of the 8th when Alexei tied it. Then nothing but goose eggs for 5 straight innings until the 14th.

rocky biddle
08-06-2008, 09:50 AM
He sold that horse. It probably was lame. He does have another horse named He Gone. From what I've heard he grew up a Sox fan and he sounded really excited to do the game last night.

I've heard him on several talk radio shows and I always found him to be pretty funny. He pushes the Cubs right now, but I don't think he would have his job if he didn't.

Really? Just a few weeks ago on one of the Comcast shows the hosts were all congratulating him because his horse 'Ronnie Woo Woo' had just won some race. Maybe it was longer ago than I thought.

Not that it matters, and I'm sure you're right, but the only thing I could find (http://www.hawthorneracecourse.com/horsemen/stakes/thechicago-noms.pdf) about it was an Hawthorne entry list from 6/28/08, and it still listed Plesac as the owner. It also shows he owns a horse called Dr. McSteamie.

Maybe he just likes giving his horses stupid names?

102605
08-06-2008, 09:51 AM
Plesac knew his stuff and did a fantastic job.

I don't know where he came from, who he played for, etc etc etc.


Just wanted to add my opinion.

Save McCuddy's
08-06-2008, 10:16 AM
To be fair....it didn't really hint at becoming "historically interesting" until the bottom of the 8th when Alexei tied it. Then nothing but goose eggs for 5 straight innings until the 14th.

Tom -- the game was 6-1 going into the bottom of the fifth whereupon we scored in each of the next 4 innings to tie the ballgame. I was feeling the inevitability of the comeback as soon as we got guys on in the 5th.

At any rate, I will agree that Plesac is light years ahead of DJ in talent and survivability. And one thing that his first night chattiness accomplished was to take Hawk off of his umpire chair for one night. That was a blessing.

TomBradley72
08-06-2008, 10:29 AM
Tom -- the game was 6-1 going into the bottom of the fifth whereupon we scored in each of the next 4 innings to tie the ballgame. I was feeling the inevitability of the comeback as soon as we got guys on in the 5th.



I had the same feeling....and this game (for me) is now in the same category as the AJ HR vs. Dodgers in 2005, Robin's Grand Slam off Gossage in '91, etc.

But if Quentin's HR is a foot shorter and is caught by the LF, etc...this isn't a historic game...it was a very dramatic game, with lots of great moments, but without Swisher's bomb in the 14th...there's nothing historic about it.

Beer Can Chicken
08-06-2008, 10:35 AM
I liked Plesac a lot last night. Knew his stuff, wasn't afraid of Hawk and was pretty objective and insightful. Much better than DJ, IMO.

thedudeabides
08-06-2008, 10:43 AM
Really? Just a few weeks ago on one of the Comcast shows the hosts were all congratulating him because his horse 'Ronnie Woo Woo' had just won some race. Maybe it was longer ago than I thought.

Not that it matters, and I'm sure you're right, but the only thing I could find (http://www.hawthorneracecourse.com/horsemen/stakes/thechicago-noms.pdf) about it was an Hawthorne entry list from 6/28/08, and it still listed Plesac as the owner. It also shows he owns a horse called Dr. McSteamie.

Maybe he just likes giving his horses stupid names?

Maybe, he said he was selling it. I may have misheard anyways. I don't think He Gone has run yet, but even if you don't like Hawk, that's a great name for a horse.

Dr McSteamie. :D: I'm hoping a girlfriend/wife was behind that one.

Jim Shorts
08-06-2008, 01:04 PM
Plesac did fine. I like his analysis. But a Cub guy? What about Melton?

Ah, hell, Melton probably got in a fist fight with Yaz back in '67 and Hawk hasn't gotten over it yet.

Clembasbal
08-06-2008, 01:15 PM
Really? I was hoping he'd shut up for just a second or two. Yap, yap, yap; nonstop until I was wishing that Hawk would turn around and slap him.

Get well soon, DJ!

Watched the entire game, and I thought he blew DJ out of the water. DJ is stale and lifeless.

2906
08-06-2008, 01:21 PM
Plesac did fine. I like his analysis. But a Cub guy? What about Melton?

Ah, hell, Melton probably got in a fist fight with Yaz back in '67 and Hawk hasn't gotten over it yet.

I think Mark Liptak has stated Plesac is a long time White Sox fan. He is from the south suburbs or northwestern Indiana (I think).

He was insightful last night, maybe a little too chatty, but hey.

Adele_H
08-06-2008, 01:22 PM
Plesac did fine. I like his analysis. But a Cub guy? What about Melton?



What about Mike North?

Jim Shorts
08-06-2008, 01:44 PM
What about Mike North?

I think I'd pay a little extra for that game.

PhillipsBubba
08-06-2008, 01:46 PM
Really? I was hoping he'd shut up for just a second or two. Yap, yap, yap; nonstop until I was wishing that Hawk would turn around and slap him.

Get well soon, DJ!

First Plesac says the best pitch in BB is the well located fastball...then later he says the best pitch in BB is the change-up...

...and Harrellson...OMG...for a guy who accumulate 735 hits while hitting a robust .239...he sure knows alot about hitting...BTW...what's this crap about "launch angles"???:scratch:

JD has a perfect launch angle...what a crock...I wonder if Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio or Tony Gwynn ever worried about their launch angle???

MeteorsSox4367
08-06-2008, 01:47 PM
What about Mike North?

Mike North? Is there teal missing from that comment? I would rather listen to a booth of Chip Caray, DJ and Suzyn "Ohmygawd!! It's Roger Clemens!!" Waldman for the next 1,000 years then be subjected to Mike "Hey! I'm a Regular Guy, Too!!" North.

No. Stinkin'. Way.

Adele_H
08-06-2008, 01:59 PM
I would rather listen to a booth of Chip Caray


:chimp
John Cusack and the Cubs are roaring!!!

Domeshot17
08-06-2008, 09:25 PM
The one thing I really noticed and enjoyed about DP is he sounded so stoaked and thrilled with how the game ended. He joined Hawk in the YESSSSSSSSSSSS and made a cool dirty 30 comment. Sounded like even as a cubs guy, he was pulling for us.

TornLabrum
08-06-2008, 09:52 PM
One thing to remember about Plesac's chattiness: For every second he was talking, Hawk was silent.

EuroSox35
08-06-2008, 10:08 PM
He wasn't bad, I just started the thread at the beginning of the game though since it was weird to see that he was the replacement. Especially when Stone and Hawk got rave reviews last year, seemed like a simple move

Illini Stripes
08-06-2008, 10:52 PM
Speaking of Ronnie Woo Woo...about three weeks back, I saw him on the corner of 99th Kedzie...in full uniform with a HOT blond!

thedudeabides
08-07-2008, 11:43 AM
Speaking of Ronnie Woo Woo...about three weeks back, I saw him on the corner of 99th Kedzie...in full uniform with a HOT blond!

Did he pick her up at EP high school?

Save McCuddy's
08-07-2008, 04:28 PM
I had the same feeling....and this game (for me) is now in the same category as the AJ HR vs. Dodgers in 2005, Robin's Grand Slam off Gossage in '91, etc.

But if Quentin's HR is a foot shorter and is caught by the LF, etc...this isn't a historic game...it was a very dramatic game, with lots of great moments, but without Swisher's bomb in the 14th...there's nothing historic about it.

Agreed. I'll draw a parallel to the AJ '05 game which I was at the cell for. Sitting on my couch Tuesday night the feelings were similar.

On the historic note, there was a lot to it. It had the 5 run comeback. It had the dramatic 14th inning. But it also featured some sick pitching from Rodney and Thornton toe to toe for extended frames that was beyond the usual tenor of a major league game. I say it was building toward historic even before Swish topped it off.