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CHISOXFAN13
07-31-2008, 12:11 PM
Rogers said the Sox are close to acquiring Washington starter John Lannan

soxfan26
07-31-2008, 12:13 PM
I picked him up for my fantasy team a month ago and he's been pitching great - go get him Kenny! :tongue:

1908<2005
07-31-2008, 12:13 PM
per 670
edit: What's the score

Jaffar
07-31-2008, 12:13 PM
Rogers said the Sox are close to acquiring Washington starter John Lannan

I can confirm that I heard the same thing! :redneck

shes
07-31-2008, 12:14 PM
We'd probably have to give up a lot for him, but he'd be an upgrade over Richard/Contreras.

VeeckAsInWreck
07-31-2008, 12:14 PM
Didn't he write songs with Paul McCarthy? :redneck

Gammons Peter
07-31-2008, 12:14 PM
he would cost us a ton

esbrechtel
07-31-2008, 12:14 PM
wts? For who? Rumored? :scratch:

oeo
07-31-2008, 12:15 PM
Best of all, he pitches for free.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=8074
Salary 2008: $0

Gammons Peter
07-31-2008, 12:16 PM
Why would the Nats trade him...why?

He's good
He's young (rookie, I think)
He's cheap

I bet it would cost us Fields and .......

SoxNation05
07-31-2008, 12:16 PM
Interesting.

cleanwsox
07-31-2008, 12:16 PM
Best of all, he pitches for free.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=8074
Salary 2008: $0


He loves baseball!

lzerante
07-31-2008, 12:17 PM
His stats look good, forget the 6-10 record, 3.33 ERA started all games - this could be some great insurance for our starting rotation as well as help if Jose and friends stay healthy.

I want to hear more.

Come on 3PM>

oeo
07-31-2008, 12:17 PM
Why would the Nats trade him...why?

He's good
He's young (rookie, I think)
He's cheap

I bet it would cost us Fields and .......

Because they're a dumb organization, that's why.

And BTW, I'm thinking more of Poreda being dealt in order for this to happen.

CHISOXFAN13
07-31-2008, 12:17 PM
Why would the Nats trade him...why?

He's good
He's young (rookie, I think)
He's cheap

I was saying the same thing. Kid is 23.

Was pretty interesting as Rogers got a cell call while on the air and then came back with it almost immediately.

doublem23
07-31-2008, 12:18 PM
Why would the Nats trade him...why?

He's good
He's young (rookie, I think)
He's cheap

I bet it would cost us Fields and .......

Because they're the Nats.

With Richar and Masset gone, I can't imagine what we'd be able to offer Washington. I would assume that at least Richard, Broadway, or Poreda plus some more.

I'd still take it: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/gl.cgi?n1=lannajo01&t=p&year=2008

downstairs
07-31-2008, 12:19 PM
Wow: I didn't know much about him.

Look at all of his losses- tons of times his team scored only one run for him, and he gives up 2, 3, or 4. On a good team, this dude would be going for 20 wins! (ok, 15 maybe).

Love it if we didn't give up anyone.

doublem23
07-31-2008, 12:20 PM
His stats look good, forget the 6-10 record, 3.33 ERA started all games - this could be some great insurance for our starting rotation as well as help if Jose and friends stay healthy.

I want to hear more.

Come on 3PM>

He's 6-10 because the Nats average 2.85 runs of support for her per start.

oeo
07-31-2008, 12:20 PM
Maybe we're trading them Griffey? :redneck

Madvora
07-31-2008, 12:20 PM
Wow: I didn't know much about him.

Look at all of his losses- tons of times his team scored only one run for him, and he gives up 2, 3, or 4. On a good team, this dude would be going for 20 wins! (ok, 15 maybe).

Love it if we didn't give up anyone.
Well you have to give up something of value. The point is that we would benefit from this guy this year. I like the sound of this.

delben91
07-31-2008, 12:21 PM
Love it if we didn't give up anyone.

I'd also love it if Washington gave him to the Sox for free.

whitesoxfan
07-31-2008, 12:22 PM
Best of all, he pitches for free.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=8074
Salary 2008: $0

Nice catch, I literally laughed out loud. Awesome.

This would be a great move. Get it done.

gr8mexico
07-31-2008, 12:23 PM
Maybe we're trading them Griffey? :redneck
Not Grifey but if true Ill bet that Swisher would be going to the Nats.

the1tab
07-31-2008, 12:23 PM
The Nats suffer from being cash poor in a new stadium in the nations capital w/ zero farm system and little on-field talent.

They would not want Josh Fields. They have Ryan Zimmerman. Zimmerman>Fields

However... if we gave them a number of players for him... especially players w/ expiring contracts (OC) or a name player (PK), it might happen.

They're so lost as a franchise i still wonder how they weren't dissolved. They find creative ways to screw up, like trading for Lastings Milledge and Austin Kearns and somehow sapping them of all their talent.

EuroSox35
07-31-2008, 12:23 PM
Now this I like...pending who we give up

Tragg
07-31-2008, 12:23 PM
His WHIP's not very good.
i don't know what kind of stuff he has - whether he figures to improve. But his numbers look so-so. He walks way too many and doesn't strike out many.

GAsoxfan
07-31-2008, 12:24 PM
Swisher + Richard or Poreda?

oeo
07-31-2008, 12:24 PM
Not Grifey but if true Ill bet that Swisher would be going to the Nats.

Swisher isn't going anywhere. He's young, he's cheap, and he's the entire team's personality.

hawkjt
07-31-2008, 12:25 PM
16 of 20 starts he gave up 3 earned runs or less.
Sounds good on paper.
Another lefty starter to go with MB,Danks,Richard...hmmm.

the1tab
07-31-2008, 12:27 PM
Swisher + Richard or Poreda?

not sure I'd give away Swisher as quickly as he's being sold out on this site... Richard i could move because Danks & Buehrle are both lefties that are better than Richard.

btrain929
07-31-2008, 12:27 PM
Swisher + Richard or Poreda?

Are you high? This isn't Tim ****ing Lincecum. He's good, but not OF under control for 5 years + rd 1 pick of last year's draft good. Hopefully just Richard and a minor league position player.

white sox bill
07-31-2008, 12:28 PM
Didn't he write songs with Paul McCarthy? :redneck

Yea besides that, he's dead!

oeo
07-31-2008, 12:28 PM
They would not want Josh Fields. They have Ryan Zimmerman. Zimmerman>Fields

Well, you obviously move Fields. Either across the infield or to LF.

I don't know their outfield situation, either, though. I know they have Milledge and Dukes, but that's it. Any young studs?

gr8mexico
07-31-2008, 12:28 PM
Swisher isn't going anywhere. He's young, he's cheap, and he's the entire team's personality.
Yeah John Lannan is also young and cheaper and Griffey replaces Swisher easily.

NDSox12
07-31-2008, 12:29 PM
I'm supposed to go to the Nats game tonight and Lannan is scheduled to start. Hopefully it will be somebody else!

I've seen him pitch a few times. I think he'd be a nice pickup, although I wouldn't give up much to get him. Not sure why the Nats would be looking to deal him though.

esbrechtel
07-31-2008, 12:29 PM
I can't see the sox giving up on swish...he has a favorable contract and he has the attitude that Kenny wants in the clubhouse too many intangibles to trade him...but our pitching staff would get significantly younger...

oeo
07-31-2008, 12:30 PM
16 of 20 starts he gave up 3 earned runs or less.
Sounds good on paper.
Another lefty starter to go with MB,Danks,Richard...hmmm.

The plan this year would probably be to put him in the pen. At least that's what I have to think.

KyWhiSoxFan
07-31-2008, 12:30 PM
That would give the Sox three lefties, plus Richard. I wonder if they will put Richard in the pen to give him more experience and trade Logan or send Logan down.

The price would seem to have to be high for Lannan.

oeo
07-31-2008, 12:30 PM
Yeah John Lannan is also young and cheaper and Griffey replaces Swisher easily.

He's not going anywhere.

Frater Perdurabo
07-31-2008, 12:32 PM
Lannan pitched well in his interleague starts against Texas and Minnesota.

Optipessimism
07-31-2008, 12:33 PM
This guy is a lefty who throws in the high 80's with a decent change and a good curveball. I wouldn't give up most of the prospects named in this thread for him, and certainly not Swisher. Interesing move though, but Clayton Richard looks like he has a higher ceiling than this guy.

Edit: He looks like a rich man's Heath Phillips basically. Or you could say Buehrle I guess, but Mark has a good cutter and a better change, plus this guy is pretty big, kind of like Heath.

Any Nats fans here know more about him?

esbrechtel
07-31-2008, 12:33 PM
Lannan pitched well in his interleague starts against Texas and Minnesota.

Thats why we want him...

kjhanson
07-31-2008, 12:34 PM
What's weird is that I was just browsing through the standings, looking at teams that might be in it, might be out, etc, etc. And I looked at the worst-record-in-the-league Nationals and thought to myself "I know absolutely nothing about the 2008 Nationals". So I researched their roster, and it is one pitiful collection of baseball players. Save Lannan, they have no pitching whatsoever, and could use help at just about every position. They have Zimmerman at 3rd, Milledge in CF and just acquired a fast 2B in the Rauch deal. But besides for that, they need it all.

Domeshot17
07-31-2008, 12:35 PM
But if he can come in and pitch ok in the rotation, I think Richard has the stuff RIGHT now to be a great LOOGY. Look at how he messed with Josh Hamilton. His stuff is filthy on Lefties, and he could be the MR we are looking for.

pythons007
07-31-2008, 12:35 PM
Trade some farm bums for him. If he is only throwing high 80s in the NL, and gives up a lot of hits/walks he will get shelled in the AL.

Tragg
07-31-2008, 12:37 PM
Swisher + Richard or Poreda?
This guy's not that good. We'd probably have to give up one of those, though. Poreda

I'd move Richard into the pen. Richard's shown a lot in his 2 starts. I know 1/2 the thinks he's useless, but that's silly.

Domeshot17
07-31-2008, 12:38 PM
Trade some farm bums for him. If he is only throwing high 80s in the NL, and gives up a lot of hits/walks he will get shelled in the AL.

If Coop could help him with his control I would not say that is true. We've had a guy who made a living with that make up, forget his name, he threw a no hitter last year.

GAsoxfan
07-31-2008, 12:38 PM
Are you high? This isn't Tim ****ing Lincecum. He's good, but not OF under control for 5 years + rd 1 pick of last year's draft good. Hopefully just Richard and a minor league position player.

I understand it's not Lincecum. Swisher + Richard or Poreda wouldn't be nearly enough to get Lincecum. Lannan is young, cheap, and under control for several more years. Therefore, the Nationals have no incentive to move him unless they're getting excellent value in return.

I'm not saying I'd make the trade, but what motivation do the Nationals have to trade him?

oeo
07-31-2008, 12:38 PM
Edit: He looks like a rich man's Heath Phillips basically. Or you could say Buehrle I guess, but Mark has a good cutter and a better change, plus this guy is pretty big, kind of like Heath.

The guy is 23 years old, showing success in the majors, and you're comparing him to Heath ****ing Phillips?

JUribe1989
07-31-2008, 12:39 PM
This makes ZERO sense for the Nats. I live in DC and most of the games I've gone to Lannan has pitched and looked phenomenal. He's one of about 2-3 guys worth a damn on that team, why would they get rid of him? Even if we gave up Fields, Poreda, and another prospect I still say it's a bad trade for DC.

palehozenychicty
07-31-2008, 12:41 PM
Because they're a dumb organization, that's why.

And BTW, I'm thinking more of Poreda being dealt in order for this to happen.


Yeah, Jim Bowden isn't too good of a GM. I hope that they can keep Poreda, though.

Optipessimism
07-31-2008, 12:41 PM
The guy is 23 years old, showing success in the majors, and you're comparing him to Heath ****ing Phillips?
Yes. A rich man's Heath Phillips, that's what he looks like. He's got a better CB than Heath, same FB basically, good change, probably a little slider or something. In other words, he's a control pitch-to-contact pitcher just like Heath. Some make it, others don't, but he's probably a lot closer to Heath than Buehrle. Maybe a Noah Lowry comparison would make you happier?

(Noah has less on his FB though)

sullythered
07-31-2008, 12:45 PM
Yes. A rich man's Heath Phillips, that's what he looks like. He's got a better CB than Heath, same FB basically, good change, probably a little slider or something. In other words, he's a control pitch-to-contact pitcher just like Heath. Some make it, others don't, but he's probably a lot closer to Heath than Buehrle. Maybe a Noah Lowry comparison would make you happier?

(Noah has less on his FB though)
I'm sure he's not awesome, but 20 starts of successful major league baseball is a WORLD apart from anything Heath Phillips has done.

Frater Perdurabo
07-31-2008, 12:48 PM
6/17 vs. MIN: lost 2-1, 2R, 5H in 7IP
6/22 vs. TEX: lost 5-3, 2R, 4H in 6IP
6/28 vs. BAL: lost 9-1, 7R (4ER), 7H in 5IP

Since then he's only given up 7ER in his last four starts.

Optipessimism
07-31-2008, 12:48 PM
I'm sure he's not awesome, but 20 starts of successful major league baseball is a WORLD apart from anything Heath Phillips has done.
He could be awesome. Buehrle is awesome. But he's just not the kind of arm you give up Fields, Poreda, even Richard for IMO. At least not at this point in his career. His numbers definitely seem to indicate he's got a good head on his shoulders and is capable of pitching in the major leagues.

He's not a guy I'd give up a very good position or SP prospect for but he's definitely a guy I'd like to get if he's cheap enough. The problem with moves like this is that, the guy doesn't have an enticing arm and the only ones who probably really like him a lot are his teammates and managers and stuff, so he'd be a guy one team might not want to give a lot up for but another team would ask a lot for. This would be a weird deal.

gobears1987
07-31-2008, 12:49 PM
Trade some farm bums for him. If he is only throwing high 80s in the NL, and gives up a lot of hits/walks he will get shelled in the AL.
I know of another lefty who throws high 80's in the AL. His name is Mark something or other. He's a 19 game winner, has saved a World Series game, thrown a no-no, and been a workhorse for 8 years.

JUribe1989
07-31-2008, 12:50 PM
6/17 vs. MIN: lost 2-1, 2R, 5H in 7IP
6/22 vs. TEX: lost 5-3, 2R, 4H in 6IP
6/28 vs. BAL: lost 9-1, 7R (4ER), 7H in 5IP

Since then he's only given up 7ER in his last four starts.

I was at two of those games and the anemic offense and horrendous bullpen certainly contributed to the losses. Lannan looked great against Texas, completely shut down Hamilton.

pythons007
07-31-2008, 12:53 PM
I know of another lefty who throws high 80's in the AL. His name is Mark something or other. He's a 19 game winner, has saved a World Series game, thrown a no-no, and been a workhorse for 8 years.

If Coop could help him with his control I would not say that is true. We've had a guy who made a living with that make up, forget his name, he threw a no hitter last year.

Yeah, I know of who you speak. I have a freaking Buehrle jersey. Dont' get me wrong, I love Buehrle. However, for the park that we play in, I think we could use another power pitcher. Someone who strikes guys out. Does this guy at least get groundballs? Because if he is a flyball pitcher, LOOKOUT!

JUribe1989
07-31-2008, 12:54 PM
Yeah, I know of who you speak. I have a freaking Buehrle jersey. Dont' get me wrong, I love Buehrle. However, for the park that we play in, I think we could use another power pitcher. Someone who strikes guys out. Does this guy at least get groundballs? Because if he is a flyball pitcher, LOOKOUT!
He keeps the ball on the ground. This is a phenomenal trade if it goes through.

patbooyah
07-31-2008, 12:54 PM
hes 23! why are people so upset by his WHIP? it's 1.29! i'm sure the white sox defense is a significant improvement over Washington, and can get him the .01 gain he needs to match buehrle. :?:

sox1970
07-31-2008, 12:55 PM
Yeah, I know of who you speak. I have a freaking Buehrle jersey. Dont' get me wrong, I love Buehrle. However, for the park that we play in, I think we could use another power pitcher. Someone who strikes guys out. Does this guy at least get groundballs? Because if he is a flyball pitcher, LOOKOUT!

I looked at his player profile on MLB. The couple clips I saw, it looks like he gets a lot of grounders, and he can field his position very well.

delben91
07-31-2008, 12:58 PM
Other than Phil Rogers, has anyone heard any more on this?

I haven't found even the rumor elsewhere, so we could all be getting WHIPped into a frenzy for nothing.

patbooyah
07-31-2008, 12:58 PM
I looked at his player profile on MLB. The couple clips I saw, it looks like he gets a lot of grounders, and he can field his position very well.

55.9% of the balls hit off him have been grounders. pretty solid.

Bill Naharodny
07-31-2008, 12:59 PM
Other than Phil Rogers, has anyone heard any more on this?

I haven't found even the rumor elsewhere, so we could all be getting WHIPped into a frenzy for nothing.

Jesse Rogers. Not Phil Rogers.

Law11
07-31-2008, 01:01 PM
The nats boards are a bit nuts at the thought of this guy being moved.

Frater Perdurabo
07-31-2008, 01:01 PM
He keeps the ball on the ground. This is a phenomenal trade if it goes through.

I looked at his player profile on MLB. The couple clips I saw, it looks like he gets a lot of grounders, and he can field his position very well.

According to his player page at ESPN, he's given up 217 ground balls and 102 fly balls, better than a 2:1 GB:FB ratio (actually 2.13). He's also given up 12 homers, 40 walks and 66 Ks.

oeo
07-31-2008, 01:02 PM
The nats boards are a bit nuts at the thought of this guy being moved.

The Nats have fans?

Optipessimism
07-31-2008, 01:02 PM
Jesse Rogers. Not Phil Rogers.
And both guys' rumors tend to show less life than Mr. Rogers.

(I miss Mr. Rogers :whiner:)

SoxNation05
07-31-2008, 01:03 PM
The Nat's have fans?

getonbckthr
07-31-2008, 01:03 PM
Other than Phil Rogers, has anyone heard any more on this?

I haven't found even the rumor elsewhere, so we could all be getting WHIPped into a frenzy for nothing.
Jesse Rogers is on the score with Mike Murphy. He got a call during the show.

Sockinchisox
07-31-2008, 01:03 PM
SI reporting they're talking as well.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/jon_heyman/07/29/heyman.tradeblog/index.html?eref=writers

Bill Naharodny
07-31-2008, 01:04 PM
And both guys' rumors tend to show less life than Mr. Rogers.

(I miss Mr. Rogers :whiner:)

As do I.

By the way, did you know that when you put Jesse with Murph, the total baseball knowledge in the world actually goes down?

Law11
07-31-2008, 01:06 PM
I wonder, among themselves do these guys lose credibility as someone to count on when these rumors blow up in their faces.

You think guys are out there going - Oh Levine said that.. Pay no attention.
Or Jesse who? Oh. that guy,, Yeh dont worry about it.

Makes for good conversation though.

Domeshot17
07-31-2008, 01:07 PM
hes 23! why are people so upset by his WHIP? it's 1.29! i'm sure the white sox defense is a significant improvement over Washington, and can get him the .01 gain he needs to match buehrle. :?:

Another WSI mind bender

WSI DOES NOT WANT JOHN LANNAN AND HIS 1.29 WHIP or Sub 4 ERA

WSI DOES WANT JON GARLAND BACK with his 4+ ERA and 1.45 WHIP

esbrechtel
07-31-2008, 01:08 PM
The Nats have fans?
HA I was thinking the same thing!!!

PatK
07-31-2008, 01:10 PM
Trade some farm bums for him. If he is only throwing high 80s in the NL, and gives up a lot of hits/walks he will get shelled in the AL.

Livan Hernandez seems to be doing okay

Optipessimism
07-31-2008, 01:10 PM
As do I.

By the way, did you know that when you put Jesse with Murph, the total baseball knowledge in the world actually goes down?
The Score got themselves a little bit closer to being out of the hole when they let North go, but Murph is still bogging them down. Murph on the radio is like listening to Paul Konerko's footsteps as he trots to first in the middle of a double play.

Bill Naharodny
07-31-2008, 01:10 PM
I wonder, among themselves do these guys lose credibility as someone to count on when these rumors blow up in their faces.

You think guys are out there going - Oh Levine said that.. Pay no attention.
Or Jesse who? Oh. that guy,, Yeh dont worry about it.

Makes for good conversation though.

Now Jesse's talking about Joel Hanrahan, who's in the Nats bullpen. He's got some good numbers -- better than the ones Jesse mistakenly reported, by the way.

Optipessimism
07-31-2008, 01:10 PM
Livan Hernandez seems to be doing okay
No he's not.

NDSox12
07-31-2008, 01:10 PM
Livan Hernandez seems to be doing okay

He is? Did you catch the game last night or see his stats?

Law11
07-31-2008, 01:13 PM
Now Jesse's talking about Joel Hanrahan, who's in the Nats bullpen. He's got some good numbers -- better than the ones Jesse mistakenly reported, by the way.

Thats the name the nats site is tossing out there too.

JUribe1989
07-31-2008, 01:13 PM
Now Jesse's talking about Joel Hanrahan, who's in the Nats bullpen. He's got some good numbers -- better than the ones Jesse mistakenly reported, by the way.

They're gonna give us their best pitcher AND their closer. Is Bowden out of his mind?

Rockabilly
07-31-2008, 01:14 PM
If he can get Lannan to go along with Danks,Buehrle and Floyd, we will have a solid rotation next year

Law11
07-31-2008, 01:14 PM
Crap, really? that was my 3,000 post. Some tidbit report from the Nationals Board?
Good God..

gobears1987
07-31-2008, 01:16 PM
Kenny has to pull the trigger on this if it is true. Nothing will stop us if we get Lannan.

esbrechtel
07-31-2008, 01:16 PM
:D:Crap, really? that was my 3,000 post. Some tidbit report from the Nationals Board?
Good God..
Congrats on 3000

UofCSoxFan
07-31-2008, 01:17 PM
Jesse Rogers just got another call and appears to have cooled on Lannan. It appears that Hanrahan is more of a possibility now.

kittle42
07-31-2008, 01:18 PM
His stats look good, forget the 6-10 record, 3.33 ERA started all games - this could be some great insurance for our starting rotation as well as help if Jose and friends stay healthy.

I want to hear more.

Come on 3PM>

Some here would say he doesn't know how to win.

SoxNation05
07-31-2008, 01:18 PM
Crap, really? that was my 3,000 post. Some tidbit report from the Nationals Board?
Good God..
What's the name of the site?

Bill Naharodny
07-31-2008, 01:19 PM
What's the name of the site?

LannanandHanrahantotheWhiteSox.com

EuroSox35
07-31-2008, 01:20 PM
Jesse Rogers just got another call and appears to have cooled on Lannan. It appears that Hanrahan is more of a possibility now.

I would bet money on Lannan not being discussed at all and Rogers mixing names up...

JUribe1989
07-31-2008, 01:20 PM
Some here would say he doesn't know how to win.

His team has 38 wins, he has 16% of their wins.

Gammons Peter
07-31-2008, 01:20 PM
Jesse Rogers just got another call and appears to have cooled on Lannan. It appears that Hanrahan is more of a possibility now.

I say Jesse is full of it and this is just a "radio theater" bit he concocted with Murph

oops my phones ringing, gotta go..

SoxNation05
07-31-2008, 01:21 PM
LannanandHanrahantotheWhiteSox.com
clever.
Maybe next time you will pick the right color. I mean that's green.

Bill Naharodny
07-31-2008, 01:21 PM
I say Jesse is full of it and this is just a "radio theater" bit he concocted with Murph

Murph is the Orson Welles of the Score.

Bill Naharodny
07-31-2008, 01:21 PM
clever.
Mayb next time you will pick the right color. I mean that's green.

Good call on the teal-miss. But it was clever. Right?

Gammons Peter
07-31-2008, 01:23 PM
clever.
Mayb next time you will pick the right color. I mean that's green.


there is no "right" color. This whole teal/pink/green color thing is very lame

NDSox12
07-31-2008, 01:23 PM
I would bet money on Lannan not being discussed at all and Rogers mixing names up...

I agree. Trading Hanrahan would make a lot more sense from the Nats perspective. He's supposed to be their closer since the Jon Rauch trade, but hasn't gotten a save yet. His upside is significantly lower than Lannan's.

Bill Naharodny
07-31-2008, 01:23 PM
there is no "right" color. This whole teal/pink/green color thing is very lame

So true, so true. But we digress.

ike from nj
07-31-2008, 01:32 PM
espn spreading rumour that sox trying to get john lannon from nationals. anything on chicago media?

NoNeckEra
07-31-2008, 01:32 PM
I agree. Trading Hanrahan would make a lot more sense from the Nats perspective. He's supposed to be their closer since the Jon Rauch trade, but hasn't gotten a save yet. His upside is significantly lower than Lannan's.

As is his price tag!

lizard6king6
07-31-2008, 01:33 PM
Heard the rumor from another website (mlbtraderumors.com) too but havent heard anything from the local media.

WhiteSox5187
07-31-2008, 01:38 PM
Everytime i see his name I keep thinking it says "John Lennon to the White Sox" and I think "WOW! HOW DID KENNY GET HIM?!?!?"

skottyj242
07-31-2008, 01:38 PM
Can we get Willie Harris back?

JUribe1989
07-31-2008, 01:41 PM
Can we get Willie Harris back?

BAFIA LIVES!

Pilgrim
07-31-2008, 01:51 PM
He is 6-10 (bad run support) with a 3.33 ERA in 119 ip.

CHIsoxNation
07-31-2008, 01:52 PM
What's the score?

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=104148

Frankfan4life
07-31-2008, 01:54 PM
I hope Kenny can pull this off without giving up too much.

asindc
07-31-2008, 01:55 PM
Can we get Willie Harris back?

Laugh if you want, but Harris has been one of the Nats' better players this year. I know that isn't saying much, but Harris would be a valuable bench player, moreso than he was in 2005.

Lannan would be very good 5th starter insurance/long relief help for the stretch run. Not sure about Richard, but Lannan has shown he can consistently get major league batters out.

kidmccarthy
07-31-2008, 01:58 PM
BAFIA LIVES!

I know im gonna get ripped for this but....
Why is there so much cult love for Bafia. She loved Willie Freakin Harris, and was a 14 year old girl. Are there that many pedophiles on this site? I loved her positive attitude and all, but I just dont get it.

White City
07-31-2008, 01:59 PM
I hope he's really trying to make some crazy deal to get Zimmerman as our franchise 3B, and the Lannan talk is a smokescreen.

Law11
07-31-2008, 02:00 PM
BAFIA LIVES!

She'd go NUTS!

munchman33
07-31-2008, 02:00 PM
I hope he's really trying to make some crazy deal to get Zimmerman as our franchise 3B, and the Lannan talk is a smokescreen.

What the heck would you tell Crede after that move?

pythons007
07-31-2008, 02:01 PM
Why is this here?!?:scratch:

What's the score has this already! not to mention Manny for Griffey!

shes
07-31-2008, 02:01 PM
I know im gonna get ripped for this but....
Why is there so much cult love for Bafia. She loved Willie Freakin Harris, and was a 14 year old girl. Are there that many pedophiles on this site? I loved her positive attitude and all, but I just dont get it.

This is an internet message board. Lower your expectations. :cool:

gogosox16
07-31-2008, 02:01 PM
I was watching this and there source was our source. They said it was rumors from chicago radio's and who knows....

Optipessimism
07-31-2008, 02:02 PM
I know im gonna get ripped for this but....
Why is there so much cult love for Bafia. She loved Willie Freakin Harris, and was a 14 year old girl. Are there that many pedophiles on this site? I loved her positive attitude and all, but I just dont get it.
lol

White City
07-31-2008, 02:04 PM
What the heck would you tell Crede after that move?

Nice knowing you -- we have the best all-around young 3B in the majors who also will be a rock in the middle of our lineup, but we wish you the best of luck with your new team.

And maybe give him a fruit basket.

spiffie
07-31-2008, 02:05 PM
I know im gonna get ripped for this but....
Why is there so much cult love for Bafia. She loved Willie Freakin Harris, and was a 14 year old girl. Are there that many pedophiles on this site? I loved her positive attitude and all, but I just dont get it.
Because on a board full of dark clouds, raging angry mods, and general misanthropy, Bafia was a happy-go-lucky sort who didn't get into fights, loved her teams with all her heart, and had a very pure enjoyment of sports.

gogosox16
07-31-2008, 02:05 PM
Nice knowing you -- we have the best all-around young 3B in the majors who also will be a rock in the middle of our lineup, but we wish you the best of luck with your new team.

And maybe give him a fruit basket.
Im sorry but you have some very wacky proposals that will never happen.

kidmccarthy
07-31-2008, 02:09 PM
Because on a board full of dark clouds, raging angry mods, and general misanthropy, Bafia was a happy-go-lucky sort who didn't get into fights, loved her teams with all her heart, and had a very pure enjoyment of sports.

Yeah, good points. I still think its cuz she was a blond tart that got middle aged men excited, but whatever:tongue:

White City
07-31-2008, 02:09 PM
Im sorry but you have some very wacky proposals that will never happen.

Perhaps you are not into the spirit of things. I'm not sure how anyone could read my mega trade proposal and not realize it was an attempt at satire.

As for Zimmerman v. Crede, I think 32 teams out of 32 teams would take Z over Crede, so I'm not sure what's so wacky about that.

chaotic8512
07-31-2008, 02:11 PM
Perhaps you are not into the spirit of things. I'm not sure how anyone could read my mega trade proposal and not realize it was an attempt at satire.

As for Zimmerman v. Crede, I think 32 teams out of 32 teams would take Z over Crede, so I'm not sure what's so wacky about that.

I am guessing that includes the new Las Vegas and Portland franchises. :tongue:

asindc
07-31-2008, 02:13 PM
Perhaps you are not into the spirit of things. I'm not sure how anyone could read my mega trade proposal and not realize it was an attempt at satire.

As for Zimmerman v. Crede, I think 32 teams out of 32 teams would take Z over Crede, so I'm not sure what's so wacky about that.

Nothing, except I think our female fan base would probably revolt if Crede was replaced mid-season. I think it will be bad enough if the Sox don't re-sign in the offseason. That said, Zimm would be an upgrade.

White City
07-31-2008, 02:13 PM
I am guessing that includes the new Las Vegas and Portland franchises. :tongue:

Doh, had NFL on the brain there for a second! Almost August, Almost August, Almost August!!!!!!!

Milw
07-31-2008, 02:18 PM
Nothing, except I think our female fan base would probably revolt if Crede was replaced mid-season. I think it will be bad enough if the Sox don't re-sign in the offseason. That said, Zimm would be an upgrade.
My girlfriend would go ballastic. She even refuses to call Josh Fields by his actual name, instead referring to him as Not Joe Crede. :rolleyes:

White City
07-31-2008, 02:21 PM
My girlfriend would go ballastic. She even refuses to call Josh Fields by his actual name, instead referring to him as Not Joe Crede. :rolleyes:

They'd get over it eventually.

nug0hs
07-31-2008, 02:29 PM
Rogers reporting this is more than likely dead than done.

gobears1987
07-31-2008, 02:30 PM
Rogers is reporting this deal is not likely going down.

russ99
07-31-2008, 02:31 PM
Rogers is reporting this deal is not likely going down.

Bummer. A half-hour left... C'mon Kenny, get us a pitcher.

EuroSox35
07-31-2008, 02:34 PM
I say Jesse is full of it and this is just a &quot;radio theater&quot; bit he concocted with Murph

oops my phones ringing, gotta go..

I wouldn't doubt it. Jesse just broke into Boers and Bernstein to break Griffey's # and that he's available tomorrow, was about to leave when they asked him about the Nationals and he said "oh yeah, actually thanks for reminding me about that, that's dead". The way he said it, probably was BS. I liked my assumption that he mixed up the 2 names since they sounded similar and then reported they were going after both, but I wouldn't doubt him just making it all up too

CHIsoxNation
07-31-2008, 02:34 PM
Did they say Lannan instead of Hanrahan?

I guess the Sox have interest in him too.

http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/07/white_sox_interested_in_nats_h.html

Bill Naharodny
07-31-2008, 02:36 PM
I wouldn't doubt it. Jesse just broke into Boers and Bernstein to break Griffey's # and that he's available tomorrow, was about to leave when they asked him about the Nationals and he said "oh yeah, actually thanks for reminding me about that, that's dead". The way he said it, probably was BS. I liked my assumption that he mixed up the 2 names since they sounded similar and then reported they were going after both, but I wouldn't doubt him just making it all up too

LOL -- probably all true.

Madvora
07-31-2008, 02:48 PM
LOL -- probably all true.
Check this out. Correction to the name
http://mlbtr.blogs.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/view/8691437?tag=Chicago%20White%20Sox

WhiteSox5187
07-31-2008, 03:22 PM
Rogers is reporting this deal is not likely going down.
Oh well, too bad. Ozzie had a good point, some of our "trades" are going to consist of Crede, Jose and Linebrink coming back. Not too shabby.

KyWhiSoxFan
07-31-2008, 06:39 PM
While KW did not get Lannan, given the way he obsesses about players, I'm sure one day the guy will be wearing a Sox uniform.

Unfortunately, it will probably be when he's 38.

DSpivack
07-31-2008, 08:49 PM
While KW did not get Lannan, given the way he obsesses about players, I'm sure one day the guy will be wearing a Sox uniform.

Unfortunately, it will probably be when he's 38.

That would be mean KW is still GM...in 2023.

Rocky Soprano
07-31-2008, 09:03 PM
While KW did not get Lannan, given the way he obsesses about players, I'm sure one day the guy will be wearing a Sox uniform.

Unfortunately, it will probably be when he's 38.

You come up with that lame joke all by yourself?

Dabchsx28
07-31-2008, 10:15 PM
y would we need him when we have octavio dotel in pressure situations

cleanwsox
07-31-2008, 11:08 PM
Well at least I learned about a Nationals player in this thread. Never heard of Lannan before today.

gogosox16
07-31-2008, 11:10 PM
Well at least I learned about a Nationals player in this thread. Never heard of Lannan before today.
You learn something new everyday...

Nellie_Fox
08-01-2008, 12:57 AM
y would we need him when we have octavio dotel in pressure situationsWould the "w" and the "h" just be too much for you to handle?

This isn't a text message that you're typing with your thumbs. You have an entire keyboard in front of you.

kittle42
08-01-2008, 01:13 PM
Would the "w" and the "h" just be too much for you to handle?

This isn't a text message that you're typing with your thumbs. You have an entire keyboard in front of you.

Blah, blah, blah...it's just an internet message board...blah, blah, blah.

KyWhiSoxFan
08-01-2008, 05:57 PM
You come up with that lame joke all by yourself?

Yes. At some point, KW needs to move on and forget about players he once liked. His obsession seems to cloud his thinking sometimes.

If that is what you mean. Otherwise, I don't know what you are talking about.

SOXSINCE'70
08-01-2008, 06:20 PM
Didn't he write songs with Paul McCarthy? :redneck


He was the walrus,goo goo g'joob!!:D::D:

EuroSox35
08-01-2008, 08:28 PM
He pitched last night, honestly, from the highlights, didn't like his style Would the w and the h just be too much for you to handle?

This isn't a text message that you're typing with your thumbs. You have an entire keyboard in front of you.

A lot of mobile phones access the internet these days

Nellie_Fox
08-02-2008, 01:19 AM
A lot of mobile phones access the internet these daysIf "advances" in technology lead to a less literate society, are they really advances?

Sentences end with a period.

FarWestChicago
08-02-2008, 05:56 AM
If "advances" in technology lead to a less literate society, are they really advances?Not when they accelerate the economic decline of a once great nation. One thing that has always amazed me about many stupid people is they a quite proud of being stupid.

kittle42
08-02-2008, 06:19 AM
Not when they accelerate the economic decline of a once great nation. One thing that has always amazed me about many stupid people is they a quite proud of being stupid.

This is one of my favorite quotes ever on this site. Maybe I should make it my signature.

You are so right. It's like being in grade school again - kids got made fun of for being smart. Now, all of America is like that. In fact, you can see it on this site all the time. *We're* the ones who are "stupid" because we actually care whether people communicate properly.

I hate people.

grv1974
08-02-2008, 06:53 AM
He was the walrus,goo goo g'joob!!:D::D:

Ahhhh, my retinas are burning!

harwar
08-03-2008, 08:02 AM
One thing that has always amazed me about many stupid people is that they are quite proud of being stupid.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"
~ Martin Luther King Jr. ~

Ziggy S
08-07-2008, 01:56 AM
We Imagined getting Lannan, but alas it was not to be. The Dream is Over.

TommyJohn
08-07-2008, 02:14 AM
Not when they accelerate the economic decline of a once great nation. One thing that has always amazed me about many stupid people is they a quite proud of being stupid.

They are bad, but I get more than annoyed with *******s who are proud of being *******s, or people who love being angry just for the sake of being angry.

jabrch
08-07-2008, 09:28 AM
Nothing, except I think our female fan base would probably revolt if Crede was replaced mid-season.

Our smart female fan base would be happy if our team got better. And as far as our dumb female fanbase, I care about them as much as our dumb male fan base.

I want the best possible players on the roster. I have no allegience to any one player - if there is an improvement to be had that fits the budget and the roster plans.