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soxfanatlanta
07-29-2008, 08:44 AM
MRI revealed ligament damage to his elbow.

Linky (http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/07/28/braves_tim_hudson_injury.html)

I think that pretty much wraps it up for the Braves this season. What a horrible year after a great start for them.

Tragg
07-29-2008, 10:25 AM
This guy's been a walking injury.
A startling characteristic of a pitcher from the Beane lineage.
Or not so startling.
STay away from Beane pitchers!

Adele_H
07-29-2008, 10:36 AM
MRI revealed ligament damage to his elbow.

Linky (http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/07/28/braves_tim_hudson_injury.html)

I think that pretty much wraps it up for the Braves this season. What a horrible year after a great start for them.

Boy, that Billy Beane...

doublem23
07-29-2008, 02:05 PM
Boy, that Billy Beane...

He's been in Atlanta for 4 years now.

DSpivack
07-29-2008, 02:54 PM
He's been in Atlanta for 4 years now.

Billy Beane has been in Atlanta 4 years? :scratch:

Jjav829
07-29-2008, 03:37 PM
This guy's been a walking injury.
A startling characteristic of a pitcher from the Beane lineage.
Or not so startling.
STay away from Beane pitchers!

:?:

Tim Hudson's # of starts:

1999 (rookie season) - 21
2000 - 32
2001 - 35
2002 - 34
2003 - 34
2004 - 27
2005 (first year in Atlanta) - 29
2006 - 35
2007 - 34
2008 - 22 thus far

hose
07-29-2008, 05:10 PM
Billy Beane has been in Atlanta 4 years? :scratch:

:rimshot:

Tragg
07-29-2008, 07:06 PM
:?:

Tim Hudson's # of starts:

1999 (rookie season) - 21
2000 - 32
2001 - 35
2002 - 34
2003 - 34
2004 - 27
2005 (first year in Atlanta) - 29
2006 - 35
2007 - 34
2008 - 22 thus far

Allow me to summarize his last 5 seasons


2004 Injured - missed 6 weeks of season
TRADED TO ATLANTA
2005 - injured, missed several weeks
2006 - year after 2 injured years, he sports an ERA near 5
2007 -Okay
2008 - Injured

The reality is also that Hudson was an overrated pitcher - in a pitcher's park, he always had a moderate-high WHIP, except for one freak year ....that figured to catch up with him and it did. He also had injury troubles.
Other than pitching for Beane, I think justin d would be an interesting pickup at what should be a reasonable price.

Jjav829
07-29-2008, 07:17 PM
Allow me to summarize his last 5 seasons


2004 Injured - missed 6 weeks of season
TRADED TO ATLANTA
2005 - injured, missed several weeks
2006 - year after 2 injured years, he sports an ERA near 5
2007 -Okay
2008 - Injured

The reality is also that Hudson was an overrated pitcher - in a pitcher's park, he always had a moderate-high WHIP, except for one freak year ....that figured to catch up with him and it did. He also had injury troubles.
Other than pitching for Beane, I think justin d would be an interesting pickup at what should be a reasonable price.

Yes, he's suffered some injuries. But to say he's a walking injury? He's not Mark Prior. We're talking about a guy who has pitched 200+ innings in 6 of 8 seasons since becoming a regular starter. And in the two non-200+ IP season, he threw 188 and 192 innings, good enough for 61st and 59th in overall IP in baseball for those two seasons, respectively. Not workhorse seasons, but it wasn't like the guy went all Mike Hampton or Darren Dreifort on his team.

voodoochile
07-29-2008, 07:21 PM
Yes, he's suffered some injuries. But to say he's a walking injury? He's not Mark Prior. We're talking about a guy who has pitched 200+ innings in 6 of 8 seasons since becoming a regular starter. And in the two non-200+ IP season, he threw 188 and 192 innings, good enough for 61st and 59th in overall IP in baseball for those two seasons, respectively. Not workhorse seasons, but it wasn't like the guy went all Mike Hampton or Darren Dreifort on his team.

If a guy can pitch but only make 27 starts a season, you go ahead and take the good with the bad.

Tragg
07-29-2008, 07:55 PM
Forget Hudson, my global point is this: considering the high price in acquiring a Beane pitcher in terms of talent you must give up and considering the extreme low productivity rate of pitchers once they leave Oakland, trading for an Oakland pitcher is a bad risk. Can you name one that lasted more than a year for his subsequent team? I'm sure there is one besides Hudson - but I can't think of him.

Haren and Harden are okay now. Blanton. But it's early. We're still in year 1. (I expect Haren to stay good - Beane got a ton for him and, thusly, traded him before he was spent - just my guess).
On the other hand, Zito and Koch were terrible from day 1 they left Oakland. Mulder had 1 good year in St Louis and was cooked. Foulke had, what 1 year in Oakland and then a great year in Boston, and he's completely cooked. Even Loiza - the second Beane spits him out, he's finished.
This can't all be coincidence.