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Lillian
07-29-2008, 06:22 AM
Brad Eldred is back. After missing a month with a broken hand, he has already homered twice in his first three games since returning.
He still leads the International League in RBI's, with 78, in just 83 games.
His 28 homers in 305 at bats, to go along with 19 doubles, give him a slugging percentage of 607.
The Sox may not bring him up until September, but I will be surprised if he does not figure into their plans for next year. That is, of course, unless he is traded. He could be a name that would interest a few teams right now, and might be used to bring in another arm.
Many of you have seriously undervalued this guy from the start. He has always been regarded as a big time power potential bat. He isn't that old, and did lose a year to injuries. When he has played, he has always produced impressive power stats.

cws05champ
07-29-2008, 06:51 AM
It's starting to get to the point where you just want Konerko to go on the DL for some reason and bring up Eldred for 1B to see what he's got. Not saying that will happen.....I'm just sayin.

Lillian
07-29-2008, 07:18 AM
It's starting to get to the point where you just want Konerko to go on the DL for some reason and bring up Eldred for 1B to see what he's got. Not saying that will happen.....I'm just sayin.

I know what you mean. I passed that point a long time ago!

Craig Grebeck
07-29-2008, 07:27 AM
Eldred is actually quite old. 28 in AAA is not young at all.

He's also been horrendous away from that bandbox in Charlotte: .244/.292/.605.

His SLG would drop in the majors precipitously. It's fairly obvious is a bad-ball hitter feasting on a bad IL. His K/BB ratio of 87/23 says a lot more than RBI/HR.

BigPapaPump
07-29-2008, 07:31 AM
Brad Eldred is back. After missing a month with a broken hand, he has already homered twice in his first three games since returning.
He still leads the International League in RBI's, with 78, in just 83 games.
His 28 homers in 305 at bats, to go along with 19 doubles, give him a slugging percentage of 607.
The Sox may not bring him up until September, but I will be surprised if he does not figure into their plans for next year. That is, of course, unless he is traded. He could be a name that would interest a few teams right now, and might be used to bring in another arm.
Many of you have seriously undervalued this guy from the start. He has always been regarded as a big time power potential bat. He isn't that old, and did lose a year to injuries. When he has played, he has always produced impressive power stats.

:deadhorse:

oeo
07-29-2008, 07:34 AM
Brad Eldred sucks.

Lillian
07-29-2008, 07:44 AM
Eldred is actually quite old. 28 in AAA is not young at all.

He's also been horrendous away from that bandbox in Charlotte: .244/.292/.605.

His SLG would drop in the majors precipitously. It's fairly obvious is a bad-ball hitter feasting on a bad IL. His K/BB ratio of 87/23 says a lot more than RBI/HR.

Yes, however he has 12 doubles and 16 homers in 172 at bats on the road.
That's the same .605 slugging percentage he has at home. Sorry, but I just disagree with you. This guy has never really had a fair chance to see what he could do in the Big Leagues. His Minor League Career is very impressive.
Some team will give him that chance soon. He has shown too much potential to not be given that chance. Then we'll see what he can do. Until then, none of us are qualified to say.

Lillian
07-29-2008, 07:44 AM
Brad Eldred sucks.

Thank you for your profound insight.

oeo
07-29-2008, 08:32 AM
Thank you for your profound insight.

We've already gone over this in your weekly post about how Brad Eldred is the second coming.

dickallen15
07-29-2008, 08:46 AM
Brad Eldred is 28 years old and has a career batting average in the major leagues of .199. Paul Konerko hit .455 in AAA in a brief appearance. Eldred is not the answer. He is the prototypical AAAA player.

CashMan
07-29-2008, 08:47 AM
*cough* Ross Gload *cough*

JorgeFabregas
07-29-2008, 09:36 AM
Even though he's an AAAA-type, you'd think he could maybe OPS above .700, something it's not clear that Konerko will do this year.

Adele_H
07-29-2008, 09:40 AM
Brad Eldred is back. After missing a month with a broken hand, he has already homered twice in his first three games since returning.
He still leads the International League in RBI's, with 78, in just 83 games.
His 28 homers in 305 at bats, to go along with 19 doubles, give him a slugging percentage of 607.
The Sox may not bring him up until September, but I will be surprised if he does not figure into their plans for next year. That is, of course, unless he is traded. He could be a name that would interest a few teams right now, and might be used to bring in another arm.
Many of you have seriously undervalued this guy from the start. He has always been regarded as a big time power potential bat. He isn't that old, and did lose a year to injuries. When he has played, he has always produced impressive power stats.

The question, Lillian, is this - and this is the same question that would be asked of ANY non-young player putting up big numbers in a far inferior league, whether it be developmental basketball league, NFL europe, IHL, etc, I have no bias against Eldred whatsoever -

IS HIS PRODUCTION/SKILL-SET LIKELY TO TRANSLATE TO THE BIG-LEAGUE LEVEL?

Tragg
07-29-2008, 09:45 AM
He's an organizational minor leaguer, just like the guy in the other thread. They are signed to fill out a AAA roster and help Charlotte.
Who knows, Bukvich and Carrasco were organizational minor leaguers too (and at least in Bukvich's case, should have stayed that way).

munchman33
07-29-2008, 09:49 AM
It's fairly obvious is a bad-ball hitter feasting on a bad IL.

Which automatically makes him a better option than Konerko, who can't hit balls off a tee anymore.

Lillian
07-29-2008, 10:03 AM
The question, Lillian, is this - and this is the same question that would be asked of ANY non-young player putting up big numbers in, whether it be NFL, NBA, NFL, etc, I have no bias against Eldred whatsoever -

IS HIS PRODUCTION/SKILL-SET LIKELY TO TRANSLATE TO THE BIG-LEAGUE LEVEL?



Your point is well taken. We discussed this at length over a month ago, before he sustained the broken hand. My point then was simple that he has not been given a fair opportunity to demonstrate whether or not those skills "translate" at the Major League level. He has only had a total of 236 at bats in the Big Leagues. Moreover, the second of his brief stints in the Majors followed his broken thumb and torn ligament injury in 2006, which caused him to miss the whole year. He must have been a little rusty when making just 46 at bats last year.
In 2005, at age 25, he did hit 9 doubles and 12 homers in 190 at bats with the Pirates.
That isn't a very large sample, nor is it so bad that he should be dismissed as a career AAAA player. It should also be noted that in that same year, 2005, he combined for 40 homers between AA, AAA and the Pirates.
All I am saying is that he deserves a chance to prove one way or the other, whether or not his skills translate.

Harry Potter
07-29-2008, 10:06 AM
The creator of this thread also thinks the Sox should consider bringing up Tomo Ohka

dickallen15
07-29-2008, 10:09 AM
Paul Konerko hit .455 during his brief stint in Charlotte. Hitting in Charlotte and hitting in the major leagues are two very different things.

Adele_H
07-29-2008, 10:11 AM
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All I am saying is that he deserves a chance to prove one way or the other, whether or not his skills translate.

What people deserve or not unfortunately doesn't matter in pro sports. I wish it did. If Sox and their scouts/coaches believe, whether correctly or not, that Eldred is not quick, coordinated or instinctive (enough) to hit major league pitching, they are NOT going to promote him regardless of whatever else.

I can't see the future. Not yet, anyway. I hope you're right and Brad Eldred is the next Richie Sexson.

Lillian
07-29-2008, 10:16 AM
The creator of this thread also thinks the Sox should consider bringing up Tomo Ohka

Just to clarify, I never suggested bringing up Ohka. My inquiry was a general question regarding what pitching help was available in the organization.
I'm not very impressed with him either, which is why he was the last one on my list. I do however like Childers and Egbert from that same list of 4 pitchers at Charlotte.

delben91
07-29-2008, 11:03 AM
Just to clarify, I never suggested bringing up Ohka. My inquiry was a general question regarding what pitching help was available in the organization.
I'm not very impressed with him either, which is why he was the last one on my list. I do however like Childers and Egbert from that same list of 4 pitchers at Charlotte.

Backup quarterback syndrome.

Knight Player>>>>>>Corresponding Sox Player

KRS1
07-29-2008, 04:36 PM
I will be surprised if he does not figure into their plans for next year.

Prepare to be surprised, because if he didn't figure into our plans for even an audition in the perfect opportunity with Paulie going down, then he certainly won't figure into our plans next year.

Everything else has already been said, so I'll just reiterate the few things others have said; too many Ks, 28 YO, AAAA.

thomas35forever
07-29-2008, 06:03 PM
He's an organizational minor leaguer, just like the guy in the other thread. They are signed to fill out a AAA roster and help Charlotte.
Who knows, Bukvich and Carrasco were organizational minor leaguers too (and at least in Bukvich's case, should have stayed that way).
So was Dewayne Wise, and look what he's done for us (if anything).

He gone
07-29-2008, 06:15 PM
Every organization needs some AAAA players to fill the minor league roosters. It would be nice if every spot was taken by a true Prospect. AAAA players are like Insurance Policies, some are better than others but just like your Insurance Policies, you hope you never have to use them :tongue:

Carolina Kenny
08-09-2008, 12:35 AM
The creator of this thread also thinks the Sox should consider bringing up Tomo Ohka
I would love to see a game with both Tomo and Timo it would be just Neato.

delben91
08-09-2008, 03:21 PM
I say we just let the whole Charlotte Knights team take over in Chicago. From everything I've heard, the Knights are all such amazing players, it's a mystery they aren't all in the big leagues anyway.

Mr. White Sox
08-09-2008, 03:49 PM
Brad Eldred is back. After missing a month with a broken hand, he has already homered twice in his first three games since returning.
He still leads the International League in RBI's, with 78, in just 83 games.
His 28 homers in 305 at bats, to go along with 19 doubles, give him a slugging percentage of 607.
The Sox may not bring him up until September, but I will be surprised if he does not figure into their plans for next year. That is, of course, unless he is traded. He could be a name that would interest a few teams right now, and might be used to bring in another arm.
Many of you have seriously undervalued this guy from the start. He has always been regarded as a big time power potential bat. He isn't that old, and did lose a year to injuries. When he has played, he has always produced impressive power stats.

All I have to say is this:

He has 106Ks to 24 BBs in only 348 ABs. Against AAA pitching. He'd easily crack 200 Ks with a full season in the big leagues, and he'd challenge 250. There's no way his average would be any higher than .230 - .240 with those numbers. I'm all for giving him some ABs in September, but with Konerko and Swisher in front of him at 1B, he doesn't have a spot on this club.