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Rockabilly
07-07-2008, 08:58 PM
thank god

We are up 1.5 now.. hopefully the Red Sox will sweep them

WhiteSoxJunkie
07-07-2008, 09:10 PM
Go Red Sox

Fenway
07-07-2008, 09:51 PM
Go Red Sox

Red Sox love on the Southside at last :tongue:

Fun game to work tonight. DiceK got a lot of defensive help.

So strange looking at standings board in left and seeing Tampa Bay up by 5 ( now 4 )

Tampa maybe the 2003 Royals but I suspect they are better than that. The possibility exists of an October without New York or Boston for the first time since the strike.

chisoxfanatic
07-07-2008, 09:53 PM
The possibility exists of an October without New York or Boston for the first time since the strike.
That might be the time where ESPN and all of the other media outlets will have to look at themselves and see that promoting only 2 teams is a BAD thing!

WhiteSox5187
07-07-2008, 09:57 PM
That might be the time where ESPN and all of the other media outlets will have to look at themselves and see that promoting only 2 teams is a BAD thing!
And they'll figure it will be a freak occurence and continue to do it.

slavko
07-07-2008, 10:49 PM
Key play of the game was walking Morneau in the 8th, then getting Monroe and Young with the bases loaded. They didn't let Morneau beat them, whether it was by luck or design I don't know. Nice game.

Lip Man 1
07-07-2008, 10:53 PM
What concerns me is how Baker (Twins starter) held Boston in check for so long. Minnesota will live or die by their starting pitchers and right now they are dealing as a unit.

Lip

slavko
07-07-2008, 11:06 PM
What concerns me is how Baker (Twins starter) held Boston in check for so long. Minnesota will live or die by their starting pitchers and right now they are dealing as a unit.

Lip

Looking at my AM paper it showed Baker as great in his last 3 starts and Daisuke as bad in his last 3 and I was wondering why the BoSox were such heavy favorites. I'm glad I didn't tell all you guys to bet the ranch. But I wasn't surprised at how well Baker pitched. His previous 3 were very good.

doublem23
07-07-2008, 11:16 PM
What concerns me is how Baker (Twins starter) held Boston in check for so long. Minnesota will live or die by their starting pitchers and right now they are dealing as a unit.

Lip

Not necessarily, Lip; the Twins are, for the most part, a team that is statistically in the middle of almost every major category in the American League except Runs Scored in which they're 3rd in the AL only behind Texas and Boston.

I'm not saying they won't keep it up, but there are plenty of reasons to believe their offense isn't quite as good as they're showing.

At any rate, thank god they ****in' lost.

areilly
07-07-2008, 11:47 PM
Red Sox love on the Southside at last :tongue:

I caught the 8th and 9th innings of that game. Suffice to say my stomach burned with nausea every time I clapped for things going the Red Sox' way.

Fenway
07-07-2008, 11:53 PM
Looking at my AM paper it showed Baker as great in his last 3 starts and Daisuke as bad in his last 3 and I was wondering why the BoSox were such heavy favorites. I'm glad I didn't tell all you guys to bet the ranch. But I wasn't surprised at how well Baker pitched. His previous 3 were very good.

I can count on one hand the number of times Boston has not been favorite at home in the past 10 years. Tonight the Boston bookies were almost 3-1 with DiceK. The smart bet was the Twins but smart doesn't mean winning.

Noneck
07-08-2008, 12:11 AM
Tonight the Boston bookies were almost 3-1 with DiceK.

The line was Blowsox -160, no way no chance was any book at -300.

Fenway
07-08-2008, 12:24 AM
The line was Blowsox -160, no way no chance was any book at -300.

I didn't say an online book. At a tavern near the park you had to put up 29 to make 10. If you bet the Twins it was 10 to make 26.

Max Power
07-08-2008, 08:03 AM
The possibility exists of an October without New York or Boston for the first time since the strike.

You mean a post-season without New York AND Boston. The Red Sox did miss the playoffs as recently as 2006. :smile:

VenturaFan23
07-08-2008, 08:25 AM
Tampa maybe the 2003 Royals but I suspect they are better than that. The possibility exists of an October without New York or Boston for the first time since the strike.

Wishful thinking there. These guys will be sticking around for a while. I know the Eastern Sports Propaganda Network would like nothing more than to close their eyes and make TB go away, but they'll eventually have to face the hard reality that there are at least three teams in that division now.

oeo
07-08-2008, 09:15 AM
What concerns me is how Baker (Twins starter) held Boston in check for so long. Minnesota will live or die by their starting pitchers and right now they are dealing as a unit.

Lip

I don't know, I saw a bunch of scolded balls right at guys. Baker was very fortunate last night...especially on a couple of balls that were caught by Span in RF.

jabrch
07-08-2008, 10:15 AM
Not necessarily, Lip; the Twins are, for the most part, a team that is statistically in the middle of almost every major category in the American League except Runs Scored in which they're 3rd in the AL only behind Texas and Boston.

I'm not saying they won't keep it up, but there are plenty of reasons to believe their offense isn't quite as good as they're showing.

At any rate, thank god they ****in' lost.

Their avg/obp with RISP is off the charts crazy. So either they are "clutch" or this is an anomoly that will even itself out.

Lip Man 1
07-08-2008, 12:26 PM
I think they lead all of MLB with a .312 average with runners in scoring position.

With so many more road games though in the 2nd half (compared to home games) we'll see how they do and if these numbers are Metrodome driven.

Lip

jabrch
07-08-2008, 02:07 PM
I think they lead all of MLB with a .312 average with runners in scoring position.

With so many more road games though in the 2nd half (compared to home games) we'll see how they do and if these numbers are Metrodome driven.

Lip

I've got my fingers crossed that it is the benefit of home field, and specifically of the Metrodome... Because if they go down from leading ALL OF BASEBALL at .312 down to tied with the fourth place team in MLB (The Chicago White Sox) @ .280, that's .032, that's a difference of 25 hits with RISP this season. That's insane...and that's the difference between them being 1 game back, and something like 5-10 games back...

Hokiesox
07-08-2008, 04:50 PM
That might be the time where ESPN and all of the other media outlets will have to look at themselves and see that promoting only 2 teams is a BAD thing!

We'll probably get pictures of a bulldozer driving across new Yankee stadium instead of actual baseball highlights of things like playoff games.

thomas35forever
07-08-2008, 08:58 PM
Twins lose after giving up a four-spot in the eighth! Nice job closing it out, you bums.

gf2020
07-08-2008, 09:02 PM
:twinslose

LongLiveFisk
07-08-2008, 09:11 PM
:twinslose

YES!! :bandance:

LongLiveFisk
07-08-2008, 09:12 PM
Eastern Sports Propaganda Network

I like that. I'm going to use it. :D:

Fenway
07-08-2008, 09:18 PM
Twins lose after giving up a four-spot in the eighth! Nice job closing it out, you bums.

Hey Manny you're so fine Hey Manny Hey Manny

TDog
07-09-2008, 12:38 AM
:twinslose

Once again, a team down by one in the ninth loses after sacrificing a precious out to put a runner into scoring position. On the road, it's a particulalry bad move and one I was happy to see the Twins make.

PeteWard
07-09-2008, 01:02 AM
Once again, a team down by one in the ninth loses after sacrificing a precious out to put a runner into scoring position. On the road, it's a particulalry bad move and one I was happy to see the Twins make.

Agreed. Why give Papelbon an out there when it is so tough to get deep flyballs off him? Maybe Gardenhire forgot where he was and was counting on one of those astroturf bounces of 20 feet in the air for a cheap hit that they so often get in the Humpdump.

It's time for a tailspin Ron!:gulp:

gf2020
07-09-2008, 01:30 AM
For about a two hour period today, it looked like the Twins would win and we would lose. They then blew it and we staged a tough, gritty comeback. That's a two game swing in a matter of hours. A solid lead of 2.5 games instead of a very shaky .5.

Tomorrow, the matchup in Boston is Josh Beckett vs. Livan Hernandez, while Javier Vazquez gets Brian Bannister. This is a real opportunity. I hope Javier realizes games against the Royals can be big too.

ma-gaga
07-09-2008, 09:39 AM
I've got my fingers crossed that it is the benefit of home field, and specifically of the Metrodome...

This year there are a LOT of teams that have a pretty significant homefield advantage, not just the Twins. It seems like 7 or 8 teams have specifically tailored their rosters to take advantage of their parks. I know teams have "talked" about doing this all the time, but the follow-through is usually lacking. This year there's a pretty good league wide advantage for playing at home.

And just to let you know, the construction specifications for the new Twins ballpark include a rubberized mat to be installed underneath the grass between home plate and the pitchers mound, so the Twins can continue to chop out cheap singles.

:gulp:

asindc
07-09-2008, 09:49 AM
This year there are a LOT of teams that have a pretty significant homefield advantage, not just the Twins. It seems like 7 or 8 teams have specifically tailored their rosters to take advantage of their parks. I know teams have "talked" about doing this all the time, but the follow-through is usually lacking. This year there's a pretty good league wide advantage for playing at home.

And just to let you know, the construction specifications for the new Twins ballpark include a rubberized mat to be installed underneath the grass between home plate and the pitchers mound, so the Twins can continue to chop out cheap singles.

:gulp:

And Twinkee fans wonder why we don't think their team plays in a real baseball park.:rolleyes:

ma-gaga
07-09-2008, 12:33 PM
Any Twinkee fans wonder why we don't think their team plays in a real baseball park.:rolleyes:


Also, I heard that they are going to install wind turbines (powered by the bio-diesel garbage facility) to continue the practice of blowing back into the park opposing teams home run balls.


Also, they plan on painting the adjacent buildings 'off-white' to mimic the Metrodome's roof.

do I need teal?

:cool:

doublem23
07-09-2008, 12:37 PM
Also, I heard that they are going to install wind turbines (powered by the bio-diesel garbage facility) to continue the practice of blowing back into the park opposing teams home run balls.


Also, they plan on painting the adjacent buildings 'off-white' to mimic the Metrodome's roof.

do I need teal?

:cool:


:rolling:

asindc
07-09-2008, 01:01 PM
Also, I heard that they are going to install wind turbines (powered by the bio-diesel garbage facility) to continue the practice of blowing back into the park opposing teams home run balls.


Also, they plan on painting the adjacent buildings 'off-white' to mimic the Metrodome's roof.

do I need teal?

:cool:

That's what I get for quickly reading and responding before going to a meeting.:smile:

KenBerryGrab
07-09-2008, 01:33 PM
And Jesus, he wants to go to Venus
Leave Livan far behind....

C'mon, Red Sox!

whitesox901
07-09-2008, 01:40 PM
..and the Red Sox now lead it 4-3 in the bottem of the 4th

hawkjt
07-09-2008, 02:01 PM
5-3 Red Sox in the 5th.

Twins got to Beckett for 3 in the first but the Red Sox battled back vs Livan...thankfully.

C'mon Beckett...earn your monsterous paycheck.

Sockinchisox
07-09-2008, 02:03 PM
6-3 now!

Droso5
07-09-2008, 02:06 PM
6-3 now!

I was having a good day and know I am having a great day.

hawkjt
07-09-2008, 02:07 PM
If the Red Sox hang on ...and then maybe win again tomorrow..this is the big window for the sox to pad that lead. Finally, maybe a crack in the Twins invincibility.

rustysurf83
07-09-2008, 02:07 PM
Lets go Red Sox, hand them another one. Hopefully we can beat the Royals handily today without much need for the pen.:gulp:

Jimmy Piersall
07-09-2008, 02:08 PM
From Livan to Biff..er Boof,or whatever his name is...pour it on 'em Boston !

Sockinchisox
07-09-2008, 02:14 PM
Twins coming back, Kubel homers to make it 6-4 and now Young doubles with nobody out.

gobears1987
07-09-2008, 02:15 PM
Go Sawx!

Sockinchisox
07-09-2008, 02:15 PM
If the Red Sox hang on ...and then maybe win again tomorrow..this is the big window for the sox to pad that lead. Finally, maybe a crack in the Twins invincibility.

Red Sox don't play the Twins tomorrow, Twins play the Tigers.

Unless you meant us winning tomorrow, and if that's the case then disregard that.

hawkjt
07-09-2008, 02:20 PM
Nah, I made the mistake of trusting the tribune sports page that showed the twins playing boston again tomorrow....not the first time they have screwed up.

anyway...need boston to hold on today...sox win a pair in KC and then watch the twins split with detroit...

The twins only play 3 in motown,right?
If the tigers win 2 of 3....and sox take care of business...first place at the allstar break is assured.

As I speak the update indicates it is now only 6-5 red sox....pesky fricking twins.

Oblong
07-09-2008, 02:24 PM
Twins play 4 in Detroit. Thur-Sun. I'll be at the first two.

It'll be refreshing to not see ground balls go to the wall for a triple. Anyone see that play from last week where Punto fielded the ball up the middle and, I kid you not, rolled it on the carpet to the 2B to get the force out? This is baseball, not bocce ball.

gf2020
07-09-2008, 02:25 PM
Nick Punto tested Manny and ended up making a critical out at third. Red Sox still trying to get out of the sixth with a lead.

jabrch
07-09-2008, 02:26 PM
Freaking Javier Lopez...

SoxGirl4Life
07-09-2008, 02:36 PM
Twins play 4 in Detroit. Thur-Sun. I'll be at the first two.

It'll be refreshing to not see ground balls go to the wall for a triple. Anyone see that play from last week where Punto fielded the ball up the middle and, I kid you not, rolled it on the carpet to the 2B to get the force out? This is baseball, not bocce ball.


Yeah. That's where all their offensive stats are padded, too. They have career years rolling the ball like a pinball around that infield in the death dome.

gf2020
07-09-2008, 02:36 PM
Red Sox up 7-5.

I guess life isn't so easy when you aren't playing the Nationals.

The Immigrant
07-09-2008, 02:47 PM
Freaking Javier Lopez...

He sure makes me appreciate Matt Thornton and Boone Logan.

hawkjt
07-09-2008, 02:47 PM
Yeah. That's where all their offensive stats are padded, too. They have career years rolling the ball like a pinball around that infield in the death dome.


Ignore my ignorance....the tribune showed detroit not playing tomorrow and had the twins playing boston again....hey, guess they only missed it by that much:(:

UofCSoxFan
07-09-2008, 02:54 PM
Well the lost Hansen brother has just mmmbopped the bases loaded.

gf2020
07-09-2008, 02:57 PM
Well, Twins fail to score with the bases loaded and one out. Where has the Twins magic gone?

Sockinchisox
07-09-2008, 02:59 PM
Well, Twins fail to score with the bases loaded and one out. Where has the Twins magic gone?

It stays in the Metrodome when they're on the road.

SoxGirl4Life
07-09-2008, 03:02 PM
Looks like Boof is fueling a big inning for Boston, 2nd and 3rd nobody out.

UofCSoxFan
07-09-2008, 03:03 PM
When did Bonser get moved to the Twins bullpen? I feel like I should have known this.

jabrch
07-09-2008, 03:05 PM
Well, Twins fail to score with the bases loaded and one out. Where has the Twins magic gone?

Hitting .315 with RISP is not sustainable when the second best team in that statistical category is only hitting .280. I hope the Twins choke on their own vomit. (but I am not wishing them any injuries)

SoxGirl4Life
07-09-2008, 03:06 PM
When did Bonser get moved to the Twins bullpen? I feel like I should have known this.


He came in from the bullpen vs the Sox during that 4 game series at the Cell. More than once I think.

PorkChopExpress
07-09-2008, 03:08 PM
Whoever may be watching rather than just tracking on Gameday, why did Gardenhire get ejected?

whitesox901
07-09-2008, 03:09 PM
8-5 Red Sawks Nation :bandance:

aryzner
07-09-2008, 03:10 PM
I would also like to know why Gardenhire got ejected. (I'm on gamecast as well)

UofCSoxFan
07-09-2008, 03:12 PM
He came in from the bullpen vs the Sox during that 4 game series at the Cell. More than once I think.

Hmmm....again I really should have known this. Maybe that 'ol AJ for Nathan, Boof (who sucks now) and Liarano (who is not in major league ball) isn't quite as one sided (although clearly SF didn't get vaue there, but it's not that an all-star calliber catcher for Nathan and a guy with a major arm injury history (though a lot of potential) is "the most one sided trade in history" as I've heard it called.

KenBerryGrab
07-09-2008, 03:14 PM
I would also like to know why Gardenhire got ejected. (I'm on gamecast as well)

A ball was trapped in the outfield. Ump originally called it a catch, which would have led to a triple play. Umps put their heads together and got the call right: run-scoring single. Gardy came flaming out of the dugout and got a quick thumb.

SoxGirl4Life
07-09-2008, 03:16 PM
A ball was trapped in the outfield. Ump originally called it a catch, which would have led to a triple play. Umps put their heads together and got the call right: run-scoring single. Gardy came flaming out of the dugout and got a quick thumb.


Aww.. that's a shame.

The Immigrant
07-09-2008, 03:18 PM
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/atlarge/epic_fail.jpg

God, I hate the Twins.

gobears1987
07-09-2008, 03:18 PM
Boston piling on now.

12-5

spawn
07-09-2008, 03:19 PM
Red Sawx have put a 6 spot up in the 7th...and are still batting.

KenBerryGrab
07-09-2008, 03:19 PM
So, instead of being out of the inning with a miracle triple play, the Twins have coughed up 6. Feel the magic!

aryzner
07-09-2008, 03:19 PM
make that 13

SoxGirl4Life
07-09-2008, 03:19 PM
Boston piling on now.

12-5


Good. Rub a little of that artificial shine off of the little Twinkies

asindc
07-09-2008, 03:19 PM
Boston is blowing up the Twinkees pen now. 13-5 Red Sox, bottom 6th with one out.

gobears1987
07-09-2008, 03:20 PM
Boston is blowing up the Twinkees pen now. 13-5 Red Sox, bottom 6th with one out.
and another pitcher burned.

gobears1987
07-09-2008, 03:21 PM
14-5

aryzner
07-09-2008, 03:21 PM
14-5

jeez the twins epically collapsed this inning

Jollyroger2
07-09-2008, 03:23 PM
14-5

jeez the twins epically collapsed this inning

Hopefully this starts a nice breakdown or avalanche where they lose 10 of 12 or something.

gobears1987
07-09-2008, 03:24 PM
Just a note, that is 19 hits surrendered by Twinkie pitching today.

aryzner
07-09-2008, 03:24 PM
Hopefully this starts a nice breakdown or avalanche where they lose 10 of 12 or something.
I'll drink to that! :gulp:

jabrch
07-09-2008, 03:25 PM
I luv Brian Bass!!!!

SoxGirl4Life
07-09-2008, 03:26 PM
Just a note, that is 19 hits surrendered by Twinkie pitching today.


This looks like the games they played at the Cell in June. I am more apt to believe this is more Twins baseball in 2008 than the bounce-the-rubber-ball they've been playing at home.

spawn
07-09-2008, 03:30 PM
This looks like the games they played at the Cell in June. I am more apt to believe this is more Twins baseball in 2008 than the bounce-the-rubber-ball they've been playing at home.
Timberbitch was probably trolling the Sons of Sam Horn website, causing the Twins to get swept. :D:

TDog
07-09-2008, 03:38 PM
A ball was trapped in the outfield. Ump originally called it a catch, which would have led to a triple play. Umps put their heads together and got the call right: run-scoring single. Gardy came flaming out of the dugout and got a quick thumb.

I saw the replay on Gamecast. It originally was called an inning-ending doubleplay. It was clear the ball was trapped -- not even trapped really, but caught backhand after a hop off the grass. The corner-base umpires, as well as the hitter rounding first, had great angles to see the ball bounce.

Who needs instant replay?

gf2020
07-09-2008, 03:42 PM
The Devil Rays just lost as well, which is stellar news for those who care about best AL record in early July.

I think we are due for a cheapie Indians win tonight. I'd love for the Tigers to lose today so that I could feel less dirty about rooting for them over the next four days.

SoxGirl4Life
07-09-2008, 03:45 PM
The Devil Rays just lost as well, which is stellar news for those who care about best AL record in early July.

I think we are due for a cheapie Indians win tonight. I'd love for the Tigers to lose today so that I could feel less dirty about rooting for them over the next four days.


I think the Indians have packed it in for the season.

SoxSpeed22
07-09-2008, 03:47 PM
Hopefully this starts a nice breakdown or avalanche where they lose 10 of 12 or something.For the first time, in a long time, I agree with you. :cheers:

KenBerryGrab
07-09-2008, 03:48 PM
I saw the replay on Gamecast. It originally was called an inning-ending doubleplay.


There was nobody out. If the catch were allowed to stand, it would have been a triple play.

Jerko
07-09-2008, 03:52 PM
I think the Indians have packed it in for the season.

I do too. They get spanked with regularity these days.

hawkjt
07-09-2008, 03:53 PM
yes, burn out that twins bullpen today before the tigers take them on in motown. ....and yes ...go Indians tonite...then a 3 of 4 tiger run vs the twins in detroit will do just fine if the sox take care of business tonite,tomorrow and on the weekend in texas...which is gonna be rough.

jabrch
07-09-2008, 03:56 PM
The Devil Rays just lost as well, which is stellar news for those who care about best AL record in early July.

What does that trophy look like?

PorkChopExpress
07-09-2008, 03:56 PM
There was nobody out. If the catch were allowed to stand, it would have been a triple play.

Gameday said there was one out.

Edit: I was wrong. Nevermind. 18-5.

asindc
07-09-2008, 03:57 PM
yes, burn out that twins bullpen today before the tigers take them on in motown. ....and yes ...go Indians tonite...then a 3 of 4 tiger run vs the twins in detroit will do just fine if the sox take care of business tonite,tomorrow and on the weekend in texas...which is gonna be rough.

The Twinkees have used 5 pitchers today so far. I thought they were going to have Bass take one for the team, but I guess letting him go further would have been cruel.

TDog
07-09-2008, 04:03 PM
There was nobody out. If the catch were allowed to stand, it would have been a triple play.

Maybe the announcers didn't know what they were talking about, but no one from the New England Sports Network said anything about a tripleplay.

rustysurf83
07-09-2008, 04:05 PM
What does that trophy look like?


I don't know, we can probably ask some Cubs fans what the NL one looks like. They seem to be all about their accomplishments so far.:D:

Droso5
07-09-2008, 04:08 PM
The Twins are a solid team and play that Twinball in the D-Bag Dome to perfection. Whoever said that, statistically, their run is unsustainable is probably correct. The key is to jump on the opportunity that playing two bad teams with sub-par pitching presents. Thankfully the Sox jumped on it last night.

Oblong
07-09-2008, 04:08 PM
On another MB it said "The Twins only need 12 bunt singles to tie it"

I think that line's a keeper.

LITTLE NELL
07-09-2008, 04:09 PM
This game is ovah! Sox now lead by 3 games.

Droso5
07-09-2008, 04:09 PM
This game is ovah! Sox now lead by 3 games.


:bandance:

UofCSoxFan
07-09-2008, 04:10 PM
I personally am hoping for the Tigers and Twins to split. Hell, if anything I'd want the Twins to win 3 of 4. I still see the Tigers as the bigger threat and if they swept the Twins, that MAY burry the the Twins but it would certainly bring the Tigers back into the race. Be careful what you wish for is all I'm saying.

LITTLE NELL
07-09-2008, 04:12 PM
I personally am hoping for the Tigers and Twins to sweep. Hell, if anything I'd want the Twins to win 3 of 4. I still see the Tigers as the bigger threat and if they swept the Twins, that MAY burry the the Twins but it would certainly bring the Tigers back into the race. Be careful what you wish for is all I'm saying.
Did you mean split?

KenBerryGrab
07-09-2008, 04:12 PM
Maybe the announcers didn't know what they were talking about, but no one from the New England Sports Network said anything about a tripleplay.

The Red Sox radio announcers were right on it. Check the game log. Whatever.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280709102

UofCSoxFan
07-09-2008, 04:19 PM
Did you mean split?

Yes...changing now.

Although if they could somehow each lose all 4, I'd be all for that as well.

cleanwsox
07-09-2008, 04:35 PM
Yes...changing now.

Although if they could somehow each lose all 4, I'd be all for that as well.


I'll take four rain outs personally. Give them a messed up schedule later on.



:sweepThank you Boston, now go **** yourselves.

gf2020
07-09-2008, 05:09 PM
What does that trophy look like?
I don't know, best record certainly led to a nice one in 2005. With as poor as we have played on the road this year and with potential trips to Tampa and Minnesota in the playoffs, I think homefield advantage is critical to our chances of post season success. On that score, a loss by Tampa now counts just as much as one in September.

I personally am hoping for the Tigers and Twins to split. Hell, if anything I'd want the Twins to win 3 of 4. I still see the Tigers as the bigger threat and if they swept the Twins, that MAY burry the the Twins but it would certainly bring the Tigers back into the race. Be careful what you wish for is all I'm saying.
This will probably come back to haunt me, but I'd much rather have the Tigers chasing us. The fact is that we have nine games left with the Tigers, but six of them are at home. We have seven games left with the Twins and all of them are in Minnesota.

If we play the Tigers to a standstill (win five of the nine) that would be eight games for them to make up with 64 other games remaining. If we played 500 ball for those 64 games, they would have to play 625 ball to catch us. I don't think we'll be a 500 ballclub the rest of the way and I don't think they could sustain 625 ball for more than two months.

Meanwhile, it is not out of the realm of possibility that the Twins could take 5 of 7 from us given our struggles in Minnesota and then it would pretty much be an even race over the last 64 games of the season.

Trust me, we want the Tigers to sweep the Twins if they can. We're in a much better position to blunt any run they make.

Foulke You
07-09-2008, 05:11 PM
The Sox need to pounce on this fortune of schedule. We played a lot of our toughest games in April and May. If we beat the Royals and Rangers as a 1st place team should do, we can build ourselves up a nice cushion in the division.

gf2020
07-09-2008, 06:26 PM
Cleveland toying with my emotions again. They are up 3-0 and headed to the bottom of the first against the Tigers. Hopefully today is the day they remember to see pride when they look in the mirror.

EDIT: So of course, Byrd gives up a hit and a walk to start the other half of the inning. But, amazingly, he gets the next three guys. And Cleveland might have a shot at this one.

TDog
07-09-2008, 06:44 PM
The Sox need to pounce on this fortune of schedule. We played a lot of our toughest games in April and May. If we beat the Royals and Rangers as a 1st place team should do, we can build ourselves up a nice cushion in the division.

I recall some people were posting that the Sox would probably be out of the race two weeks into the season, opening against the Indians, Tigers and Twins.

gf2020
07-09-2008, 08:24 PM
I hate Cleveland. They are terrible. They've tied the Tigers after taking a 6-1 lead into the bottom of the seventh.

cleanwsox
07-09-2008, 08:44 PM
I hate Cleveland. They are terrible. They've tied the Tigers after taking a 6-1 lead into the bottom of the seventh.

That whole bullpen over there is a gas can.

sox1970
07-09-2008, 09:09 PM
I hate Cleveland. They are terrible. They've tied the Tigers after taking a 6-1 lead into the bottom of the seventh.

Indians are just brutal.

TheOldRoman
07-09-2008, 10:23 PM
Someone posted this in the postgame thread for the Loveable Losers sweep, and I laughed. So, here we go again. This time for the Twins.

http://www.comedycentral.com/images/shows/chappelle/episodes/season2/201_chappelle_m4.jpg

"How's it taste, Mother****er?!"

Hitmen77
07-09-2008, 10:51 PM
This game is ovah! Sox now lead by 3 games.

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jabrch
07-09-2008, 10:58 PM
I recall some people were posting that the Sox would probably be out of the race two weeks into the season, opening against the Indians, Tigers and Twins.


I'd love to see some people take some responsibility for their April and May behaviour around here.

PeteWard
07-10-2008, 12:29 AM
If we play the Tigers to a standstill (win five of the nine) that would be eight games for them to make up with 64 other games remaining. If we played 500 ball for those 64 games, they would have to play 625 ball to catch us. I don't think we'll be a 500 ballclub the rest of the way and I don't think they could sustain 625 ball for more than two months.

Meanwhile, it is not out of the realm of possibility that the Twins could take 5 of 7 from us given our struggles in Minnesota and then it would pretty much be an even race over the last 64 games of the season.

Trust me, we want the Tigers to sweep the Twins if they can. We're in a much better position to blunt any run they make.

Hmmmm. Cleveland 2005 ring any bells? The Sox did not choke--as the Meathead at the ST wrote--but played .500. Cleveland meanwhile went berserk. I don't want Det building up any more momentum. They now have a lot. I want the split.

But I do understand your point.

Sockinchisox
07-10-2008, 01:14 PM
Twins losing to the Tigers 5-2 so far today.

sox1970
07-10-2008, 01:17 PM
Twins losing to the Tigers 5-2 so far today.

I hope they split this weekend.

soxpride724
07-10-2008, 01:20 PM
Not really a fan of the Tigers, but go Detroit!

TDog
07-10-2008, 01:22 PM
Twins losing to the Tigers 5-2 so far today.

It was 6-2 by the time I looked at the game. The Twins just won two of three against the Tigers in the Metrodome and could have won the game they lost with a key hit in the ninth. I don't think there is any question the Twins are a diffeent team on the road.

The Immigrant
07-10-2008, 01:36 PM
This inning has been a comedy of errors for Minnesota. First Punto gets thrown out at home with no outs on a grounder to first by Gomez, then Span makes the second out getting thrown out at third on a double steal. Now they get nothing from a first-and-third with no outs situation.

http://media.tumblr.com/zcTqHiK8cb725iyqFWJ22egg_400.jpg (http://faildogs.com/post/41562667/dog-credit-last-minute-auction)

UofCSoxFan
07-10-2008, 02:03 PM
I don't know, best record certainly led to a nice one in 2005. With as poor as we have played on the road this year and with potential trips to Tampa and Minnesota in the playoffs, I think homefield advantage is critical to our chances of post season success. On that score, a loss by Tampa now counts just as much as one in September.


This will probably come back to haunt me, but I'd much rather have the Tigers chasing us. The fact is that we have nine games left with the Tigers, but six of them are at home. We have seven games left with the Twins and all of them are in Minnesota.

If we play the Tigers to a standstill (win five of the nine) that would be eight games for them to make up with 64 other games remaining. If we played 500 ball for those 64 games, they would have to play 625 ball to catch us. I don't think we'll be a 500 ballclub the rest of the way and I don't think they could sustain 625 ball for more than two months.

Meanwhile, it is not out of the realm of possibility that the Twins could take 5 of 7 from us given our struggles in Minnesota and then it would pretty much be an even race over the last 64 games of the season.

Trust me, we want the Tigers to sweep the Twins if they can. We're in a much better position to blunt any run they make.

You make some valid points. However, I see the Tigers as a good team that underachieved majorly the first half of the year. I see the Twins as a mediocre team that went on a run when they played abysmal competition.

When you have two teams chasing you, I really don't think you want either team gaining traction. If the Tigers sweep, they probably will be about 6 back and hitting on full cylanders and likely would be doing anything possible to aquiree another starting arm.

The Twins will not improve their team much via trades.

Law11
07-10-2008, 02:24 PM
Its interesting. As we finish the year with Minn away and Cleve at home.
Detroit has KC which they've had issues with and Tampa who will be in this the whole way.

As long as we take care of business against these 2 teams we should be fine.

gf2020
07-10-2008, 02:32 PM
You make some valid points. However, I see the Tigers as a good team that underachieved majorly the first half of the year. I see the Twins as a mediocre team that went on a run when they played abysmal competition.

When you have two teams chasing you, I really don't think you want either team gaining traction. If the Tigers sweep, they probably will be about 6 back and hitting on full cylanders and likely would be doing anything possible to aquiree another starting arm.

The Twins will not improve their team much via trades.

The Tigers farm system is almost barren (except for one untouchable pitcher) due to the Cabrera and Renteria trades. With several teams who are actually in real contention, I can't seem the being able to or willing to outbid for the scraps left on the market. From everything I've read about Detroit in the media, the position of ownership and the GM is that the Tigers will live or die as they are, given how much is already invested in them.

As for using this series as a launching board, Detroit has an absolute brutal start to the second half. 17 of 20 on the road. I'm not too concerned about them generating any real momentum off of a nice series here. 3.5 games closer, the Twins are a bigger threat to catch us.

Not that I think the Tigers will sweep. Twins are too good to lose seven in a row (again.)

aryzner
07-10-2008, 02:56 PM
Apparently Detroit wants to give the game back to the Twins today.

Harry Potter
07-10-2008, 03:00 PM
Twinkies tie it. 6-6 Top 9

Hitmen77
07-10-2008, 03:05 PM
I honestly don't know which team would benefit the Sox the most by winning today. On the one hand, the Twins are closer to us in the standings and we do have 7 games left in the DumpDome. But, Detroit scares me as having the firepower to go on a huge tear.

In this situation, I think I'd rather see the 2 rivals split their series and I'll spend more time worrying about the Sox winning these last 4 games before the break.

White City
07-10-2008, 03:08 PM
They tied it up with two runs on Jones AND they have two base runners on.

aryzner
07-10-2008, 03:09 PM
In this situation, I think I'd rather see the 2 rivals split their series and I'll spend more time worrying about the Sox winning these last 4 games before the break.
I think you're right here. A split with the Sox sweeping the rest of the games to the All-Star break would be ideal here.

Then the Sox come home where they've been playing awesome and hopefully the winning continues there. :D:

TDog
07-10-2008, 03:17 PM
Its interesting. As we finish the year with Minn away and Cleve at home.
Detroit has KC which they've had issues with and Tampa who will be in this the whole way.

As long as we take care of business against these 2 teams we should be fine.

I don't believe Tampa Bay will be in it all year. They hae problems outside of St. Petersburg (as all teams seem to have on the road this season) and have a killer September schedule. But I've been wrong before. I was wrong abotu the Twins seeming to give up today the way they gave up Wednesday after losing two winnable games to the Red Sox.

The Twins are playing the Tigers the way they played the Royals in Kansas City in May, when they won two of three, including two extra-inning games, once coming from behind with five in the ninth and once blowing a three-run lead in the ninth.

For that matter, the Twins played through the top of the ninth the way the Tigers played against the Indians and the White Sox played against the Royals on Wednesday.

The AL Central has some scrappy baseball with division rivals. It doesn't seem to matter what the matchups are these days.

aryzner
07-10-2008, 03:20 PM
And now the Twins seem to be attempting to give the game BACK to the Tigers. We'll see what happens. 1st and 2nd with no outs bottom 9.

White City
07-10-2008, 03:24 PM
Nathan with a couple of walks and a wild pitch. 2nd and 3rd with one out, Clete Thomas batting.

White City
07-10-2008, 03:25 PM
IBB. Bases loaded, one out for lefty Jeff Larish.

Cangelosi CF
07-10-2008, 03:31 PM
Ivan Rodriguez now batting.

White City
07-10-2008, 03:34 PM
Nathan freaking escapes again, striking out the Fake Pudge. Extra Innings in Murder City.

UofCSoxFan
07-10-2008, 03:47 PM
Well no matter who wins....a 16 inning game here wouldn't be the worst thing.

Dan Mega
07-10-2008, 03:54 PM
I'd love to see some people take some responsibility for their April and May behaviour around here.

I wonder if you care more about saying "told you so" than cheering for the White Sox.

hoosiersoxfan
07-10-2008, 03:58 PM
Morneau homers to give the twins a 7-6 lead. Wow he's 5-5 today with a homer and two doubles. I'm hoping for a split in this series so today's outcome doesn't matter too much to me as long as the Sox can take care of business in KC.

kidmccarthy
07-10-2008, 04:00 PM
Honestly I wouldnt mind minnesota winning 3 of 4 as long as we can win at least 2 of the next 4. Knock the Tigers down a bit, and Minnesota will wind down as the season goes on. I hope...

thomas35forever
07-10-2008, 04:06 PM
And the Twinkies win. Let's do the same tonight.

Mohoney
07-10-2008, 04:42 PM
If those 2 split and we win 3 out of the next 4, I'll be really happy.

If one of those 2 teams has to win 3 out of 4, though, I want it to be the Tigers. I want Minnesota to go at BEST 2-5 on this trip so they don't get any delusions about their ability to win on the road. The last thing I want is a nice rebound from their sweep at Fenway with 3 out of 4 in Detroit.

fquaye149
07-10-2008, 04:47 PM
I'd love to see some people take some responsibility for their April and May behaviour around here.

you gonna take responsibility for your 2007 behavioUr?

mrfourni
07-10-2008, 04:54 PM
Was there a reason that the first game of a four game set in Detroit was scheduled as a day game?

I can't figure it out.

TDog
07-10-2008, 05:32 PM
Was there a reason that the first game of a four game set in Detroit was scheduled as a day game?

I can't figure it out.

I was wondering the same thing. Of course, the Cubs, before they had lights and before the Tribune Company introduced late afternoon starts to boost attendance, used to start every game at the same time. I believe it was 1:20. Doubleheaders began at 12:05. Too bad if the road team played extra innings the previous night. The Sox, though 1970, played an August Friday afternoon game whenthe night of the College All-Star Game was going on in Soldier Field. In 1971, the Sox said to heck with the conflict.

Something must be going on in Detroit.

Today's game could have gone a couple more innings to suit my preference to destroy both Minnesota and Detroit. But with the All-Star break coming up, both teams will get a chance to regroup after the weekend, rendering the point moot.

TCentral
07-10-2008, 09:38 PM
.... and Liriano has another dominant AAA outing. He hasnt given up a run in 3 starts. The K's are up there... and his velocity is up around 96.

He will be called up after the break. Hopefully he slows down.

Oblong
07-11-2008, 02:40 PM
I was wondering the same thing. Of course, the Cubs, before they had lights and before the Tribune Company introduced late afternoon starts to boost attendance, used to start every game at the same time. I believe it was 1:20. Doubleheaders began at 12:05. Too bad if the road team played extra innings the previous night. The Sox, though 1970, played an August Friday afternoon game whenthe night of the College All-Star Game was going on in Soldier Field. In 1971, the Sox said to heck with the conflict.

Something must be going on in Detroit.

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I don't know if this is the reason or not but they held a Season Ticket Holder Appreciation Evening after the game. We got to go on the field, play catch (they provided balls), sit by the dugout for Q&A, they opened up some concessions for free, including a variety of ice creams. An extra 10% off at the pro shop, stuff like that. It was cool. I got my my picture taken at the wall stealing a HR away.

TDog
07-11-2008, 03:58 PM
I don't know if this is the reason or not but they held a Season Ticket Holder Appreciation Evening after the game. We got to go on the field, play catch (they provided balls), sit by the dugout for Q&A, they opened up some concessions for free, including a variety of ice creams. An extra 10% off at the pro shop, stuff like that. It was cool. I got my my picture taken at the wall stealing a HR away.

Do you remember the name of the photographer?

Oblong
07-12-2008, 09:55 AM
It was my friend Craig, on his camera, why?

TDog
07-12-2008, 12:12 PM
It was my friend Craig, on his camera, why?

I thought they may have had a professional photographer out there and I know a photographer who shoots for baseball.