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wsf4l
07-03-2008, 11:43 AM
I think it will take around 92 wins. The surprise team wil be the KC Royals, they have a good offense and there pitching will be better in the second half.

soxpride724
07-03-2008, 11:44 AM
90 wins could wrap this thing up.

KC, are you serious?

WhiteSox5187
07-03-2008, 11:45 AM
90 wins could wrap this thing up.

KC, are you serious?

They could be a surprise as in they don't finish in last place.

wsf4l
07-03-2008, 11:52 AM
90 wins could wrap this thing up.

KC, are you serious?

Look at some of there good/youngish type players. Billy Butler, Alex Gordon, Miguel Olivo, Teahan, Guillen, Bannister, Soria. Their offense is good but pitching is shaky. Also, who thought the Rays would be in this position right now. It's baseball anything can happen.

downstairs
07-03-2008, 11:57 AM
I guess the number would be one more win than the second place team? I'd say 90. But I think the Sox will clinch it with more wins than that- 92-94 wins.

JB98
07-03-2008, 11:59 AM
Look at some of there good/youngish type players. Billy Butler, Alex Gordon, Miguel Olivo, Teahan, Guillen, Bannister, Soria. Their offense is good but pitching is shaky. Also, who thought the Rays would be in this position right now. It's baseball anything can happen.

I don't think Kansas City's offense is good at all. That's a fourth-place team, at best.

wsf4l
07-03-2008, 12:03 PM
I don't think Kansas City's offense is good at all. That's a fourth-place team, at best.

For the future they could be very good, but you can't really predict the future and they could have a turnaround just like our team did.

LITTLE NELL
07-03-2008, 12:35 PM
I went through the schedule and see us with 94 wins, but we will need to do a little better on the road to get to 94.

Jollyroger2
07-03-2008, 12:40 PM
I don't think Kansas City's offense is good at all. That's a fourth-place team, at best.

Agree. They're one of the few teams with a losing record at home even. The only reason they're looking even slightly "better" is cause they got to beat up on the NL just like practically everyone else in the AL.

doublem23
07-03-2008, 12:57 PM
For the future they could be very good, but you can't really predict the future and they could have a turnaround just like our team did.

Was it really that big of a turnaround? The Sox had a down year last year, mostly thanks to the complete and utter collapse of the bullpen, but aside from that the Sox had won 99 and 90 games in the 2 seasons previous to 2007.

KW addressed almost all the weak spots from last year's team this off-season. The Royals, however, are the Royals and while they have some nice youngsters, this division is still pretty deep. Looks like they and the Indians get to fight for 4th place for the next few years.

DumpJerry
07-03-2008, 01:00 PM
Sox will win the Division. We will have at least 95 wins and, according to "Sweet" Lou Piniella, that is 6 more than what will be needed.

The surprise? Tie. Tigers snag the Wild Card. The Tribe finishes in last place.

Pre season, it would have been a surprise that the Tigers are the WC team for the opposite reasons that it is now a surprise.

soxpride724
07-03-2008, 01:00 PM
Look at some of there good/youngish type players. Billy Butler, Alex Gordon, Miguel Olivo, Teahan, Guillen, Bannister, Soria. Their offense is good but pitching is shaky. Also, who thought the Rays would be in this position right now. It's baseball anything can happen.


While it is true that anything can happen, you can't compare KC to the Rays.

The Rays are whomping on Boston, I fail to see KC beating on the Sox, or even the Twins for that matter.

sox1970
07-03-2008, 01:04 PM
91-71

soxfanatlanta
07-03-2008, 01:10 PM
95 wins should do the trick. But, as long as the Twinks draw breath, nothing is certain. The wild card race in the AL will come down to the last weekend series.

BigPapaPump
07-03-2008, 01:10 PM
I think it will take around 92 wins. The surprise team wil be the KC Royals, they have a good offense and there pitching will be better in the second half.

The Royals are 11.5 games back!! Have you ever posted under the name High Mileage? :dtroll:

HartmanSox
07-03-2008, 01:20 PM
I think the Tigers will be contending.

TDog
07-03-2008, 01:27 PM
I went through the schedule and see us with 94 wins, but we will need to do a little better on the road to get to 94.


The Sox are on pace to win 94 games and have played two more road games than home games. That doesn't mean the Sox will win 94 games. Stuff can happen and often does. One home game is already tied in extra innings and will be finished in Baltimore.

The Twins are on pace to win about 90 games, but they have played nine more games at home than on the road, despite having finished its Chicago schedule while looking ahead to seven home games against the White Sox. The Tigers are on pace to win 81. The Indians are on pace to win 70, with the Royals just ahead of them. I doubt that's the way the division will finish up.

I have no idea how many wins it will take for the Sox to win the division. I haven't calculated their magic number. It's July. It's time to win, build up a lead. It didn't take 99 wins for the Sox to finish with the best record in the American League in 2005, but that's what they had to settle for after their "historic collapse" preceding their 11-1 postseason run.

beasly213
07-03-2008, 01:40 PM
93 wins will win it is my call.

The Tigers won't be in the Wild Card Race. The suprise will be that Cleveland will finish ahead of Detroit. :cool:

wsf4l
07-03-2008, 02:19 PM
Does anyone know our recoerd against teams over .500, Iam interested to see what it is.

redsand22
07-03-2008, 02:34 PM
95 wins should do the trick. But, as long as the Twinks draw breath, nothing is certain. The wild card race in the AL will come down to the last weekend series.





I think (HOPE) that the Twins will have to falter somewhere down the stretch. Maybe they won't but I don't know if they have the pitching to sustain what they are doing.

TDog
07-03-2008, 03:11 PM
Does anyone know our recoerd against teams over .500, I am interested to see what it is.

The Sox may have a losing record against above-.500 teams, but that doesn't mean they have feasted from an easy schedule. The Sox have a huge record against the other AL Central teams, and only one of those teams are over .500. The Tigers would be over .500 if the Sox hadn't handled them well, except for the second trip to Detroit. Some of the success against the Indians came when the Indians were above .500. On one hand, people insist that the Sox play in the toughest division in baseball.

The Sox are 3-4 against the Rays, with all of the games being played in St. Petersburg. They split on the road against the Angels. They split against the team with the best record in the National League (which actually had a losing record against American League teams).

The Sox are 3-0 against the Giants and 3-0 against the Pirates. The Sox have a 9-3 record against the last place Indians, but that is more impressive than going 9-3 against the Pirates.

DumpJerry
07-03-2008, 03:15 PM
Does anyone know our recoerd against teams over .500, Iam interested to see what it is.
The Sox have the third best RPI in MLB.

downstairs
07-03-2008, 03:22 PM
Does anyone know our recoerd against teams over .500, Iam interested to see what it is.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/rpi

Bucky F. Dent
07-03-2008, 03:26 PM
We will clinch w/ 93.

hawkjt
07-03-2008, 03:28 PM
I say it will take 92 wins to take the central and am sure hoping the sox can get to 92-70 and take it.

Second half schedule is tough for the sox however.

wsf4l
07-03-2008, 04:27 PM
We have the 4th toughest SOS

JB98
07-03-2008, 04:59 PM
For the future they could be very good, but you can't really predict the future and they could have a turnaround just like our team did.

It isn't going to turn for them this year. 75 wins would be a great season for them.

jfinsocal
07-03-2008, 05:23 PM
Sox have 15 games remaining with KC; after the four game series with Oakland is over more than 1 in 5 remaining games will be with KC.

I haven't looked it up but of all first place teams, I suspect either the Sox or Tampa has played the most games against other first place teams.

Mid 90's is probably optimistic; you're never as good as you think when winning or as bad as you think when losing. 91 is my prediction; this should finish first in the AL Central this year.

PKalltheway
07-03-2008, 08:22 PM
90-91 wins should do it, I think.

asindc
07-03-2008, 11:49 PM
I think (HOPE) that the Twins will have to falter somewhere down the stretch. Maybe they won't but I don't know if they have the pitching to sustain what they are doing.

I think I heard that the Twinkees are batting over .300 w/RISP and 2 outs. I doubt they continue that for the whole season.

whitesox901
07-03-2008, 11:58 PM
I think 95 Wins will do it for the clinch. I think the suprise team is Minnesota, alot of people wrote them off, but god damn it they keep finding ways to win.

kurtsimonw
07-04-2008, 05:33 AM
88 Wins will be enough I think (As in 2nd place will get 87) and agree with the post above, the Twins as the 'surprise'.

SoxGirl4Life
07-04-2008, 08:01 AM
88 Wins will be enough I think (As in 2nd place will get 87) and agree with the post above, the Twins as the 'surprise'.


The Twins never surprise me. I always expect them to be a pain in the ass.

But I think 92-94 wins for the Central.

Tragg
07-04-2008, 12:37 PM
92

As disappointed teams quit in September, win totals inflate. I know we never win divisions with 89 wins, so maybe I'm paranoid.

TomParrish79
07-04-2008, 04:20 PM
25 games over .500 will win the division

I have no idea how many wins that equals out to

Daver
07-04-2008, 04:35 PM
25 games over .500 will win the division

I have no idea how many wins that equals out to


That's 106 wins, I highly doubt it will take that many.

TDog
07-04-2008, 04:41 PM
That's 106 wins, I highly doubt it will take that many.


Maybe I'm confused or dislexic (or maybe disgraphic), but 106-54 is 52 games over .500.

A 93-69 record is 24 games above .500. A team with a wins and losses totaling 162 can't finish 25 games above .500.

TomParrish79
07-04-2008, 05:20 PM
24 games will work

soxfan21
07-05-2008, 09:23 AM
I'm thinking between 92 and 95 wins. The twins seem to be winning a lot of games, and the tigers these past two weeks have been getting it done. I just hope that KW makes the right moves by the deadline to keep us in first for the rest of the season.