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PolishPower83
06-30-2008, 03:31 PM
http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/goochtheplay_1.jpg

skottyj242
06-30-2008, 03:36 PM
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I was just talking to my dad about that at the game on Saturday.

hi im skot
06-30-2008, 03:38 PM
Yep.

EastCoastSoxFan
06-30-2008, 03:40 PM
I'd have to put that a close second behind Uribe's dive into the Houston stands in Game 4.

ONLY because the Uribe play happened in the bottom of the 9th of the deciding game of the World Series with the Sox protecting a one-run lead.

I also seem to remember Daryl Boston taking a headlong dive into the seats down the left-field line (a similar play to one made by a certain Yankee shortstop who shall remain nameless) sometime around '85 or '86.
I remember watching that play (and the replay several times), and I am convinced that if there hadn't been fans sitting in those seats Daryl Boston could have been killed or permanently paralyzed. It did not appear that he slowed down at all before he took his headfirst dive...

Jason82807
06-30-2008, 03:40 PM
I was only going to open this thread to mention that play.

LITTLE NELL
06-30-2008, 03:57 PM
I'd have to put that a close second behind Uribe's dive into the Houston stands in Game 4.

ONLY because the Uribe play happened in the bottom of the 9th of the deciding game of the World Series with the Sox protecting a one-run lead.

I also seem to remember Daryl Boston taking a headlong dive into the seats down the left-field line (a similar play to one made by a certain Yankee shortstop who shall remain nameless) sometime around '85 or '86.
I remember watching that play (and the replay several times), and I am convinced that if there hadn't been fans sitting in those seats Daryl Boston could have been killed or permanently paralyzed. It did not appear that he slowed down at all before he took his headfirst dive...
I was going to mention the Daryl Boston catch, IIRC he actually jumped up on the low boxes wall, caught the ball and fell into the stands,all at full speed. Ivan Calderon's catch at Tiger stadium was another one I'll never forget as he jumped up on the left field auxiliary scoreboard robbed someone of a HR before it flew over the fence which sat atop of the scoreboard. Jim Landis made many great catches when he roamed CF, he was very adroit of robbing opponents of HRs when Old Comiskey had that short wall in CF when it was 415 feet. When Landis was traded Kenny"The Bandit" Berry did the same HR robbery thing. Tori Hunter had nothing on those 2 guys

bluestar
06-30-2008, 04:02 PM
I don't know about the absolute best defensive play, because it is difficult to choose just one, but I think my favorite is still Fisk's tagging two players out at home on the same play.

jabrch
06-30-2008, 04:04 PM
Of plays I saw....

I'd put the Uribe play #1 - due to significance.

I'd put Fisk tagging out two guys at once #2 - just due to how odd that was.

I'd put the Iguchi play #3.

I saw Ivan Calderon make a few SICK catches that should be in the top 10.

I've seen Crede and Ventura make some WONDERFUL plays at 3B that warrant mention.

Honorable mention goes to Mike Squires who played as good of defensive 1B as anyone I saw in this town.

My history begins in the early 80s - so I can't talk to some of the all time greats.

TDog
06-30-2008, 05:32 PM
There was a play in 1960s (maybe Lip saw it -- I only saw it on film) where Ken Berry hurdled the centerfield fence in Old Comiskey to make a catch. This was a five-foot chain link fence, but it was still a damned beautiful thing to watch. He raced toward the fence, cleared it in full stride, and caught the ball before coming down.

I've seen a lot of great defensive plays as well as errors Little Leaguers would be ashamed to make. Joe Crede's defense in the 2005 World Series was reminiscent of Brooks Robinson's incredible defense in the 1970 World Series. And the amazing play he made with the bases loaded Saturday probably won the game. Juan Uribe took over the ninth inning of Game 4 in Houston. I watch Alexei Ramirez, and I think ESPN should have a nightly segment on his defense.

Really, it's so hard to choose a greatest-ever Sox defensive play.

roylestillman
06-30-2008, 05:34 PM
I was only going to open this thread to mention that play.

Me, too.

russ99
06-30-2008, 05:36 PM
Really, it's so hard to choose a greatest-ever Sox defensive play.

It's before my time, but I'm sure some Fox and/or Aparicio plays would definately make the top-10 list.

Marqhead
06-30-2008, 06:16 PM
I was at that game, I couldn't believe what I had seen and had to watch the replay several times.

WhiteSoxJunkie
06-30-2008, 06:58 PM
Don't forget another great play by Uribe in 05 that is only great because of its significance...during the Joe Crede game, Uribe made a great play to end the inning with a man on 3rd. He ranged to his right, and in one motion, fielded it, turned, and threw a strike to Konerko. Hawk called it the best defensive play of the season based on importance.

TornLabrum
06-30-2008, 09:22 PM
I was at the game for the Iguchi play. It's the best I've ever seen. The second best at a game I was at was opening night several years ago. Somebody hit a looper to shallow right field and Ray Durham made a diving catch with his back to the plate for the out. Terrific play!

DSpivack
06-30-2008, 09:29 PM
I was at the game for the Iguchi play. It's the best I've ever seen. The second best at a game I was at was opening night several years ago. Somebody hit a looper to shallow right field and Ray Durham made a diving catch with his back to the plate for the out. Terrific play!

That Durham catch was opening night in 2000. The crowd that night felt electric for the first time in years.

FarWestChicago
06-30-2008, 09:39 PM
I'd have to put that a close second behind Uribe's dive into the Houston stands in Game 4.

Of plays I saw....

I'd put the Uribe play #1 - due to significance.There can be only one. And it's Uribe, period. Iguchi's play was fantastic, but context can be everything. Juan's ass sticking out of the stands and Crede yelling takes it. :cool:

viagracat
06-30-2008, 10:20 PM
As far as style goes, the Iguchi play is hard to beat. :smile:

LongLiveFisk
06-30-2008, 10:23 PM
Ooh, tough call for me between the Iguchi play and the Fisk doubletag. Sentiment makes me choose Fisk, but significance makes me choose Iguchi. :smile:

viagracat
06-30-2008, 10:26 PM
Ooh, tough call for me between the Iguchi play and the Fisk doubletag. Sentiment makes me choose Fisk, but significance makes me choose Iguchi. :smile:

IIRC, the Fisk double-tag came against the Yankees, which made the play even sweeter. :cool:

StillMissOzzie
06-30-2008, 10:33 PM
I'll agree that Uribe' play in Game 4 should be the top play due to it's significance, but I'll toss out another honorable mention - Lance Johnson's diving, flying catch in short right center to preserve Wilson Alvarez' no-hitter in his 2nd MLB start.

SMO
:gulp:

chisoxfanatic
06-30-2008, 10:36 PM
Not to sound redundant; but, I too agree that Uribe's play in Game 4 of the World Series has to be it. If he doesn't make that play, we might've seen a Game 5.

Frater Perdurabo
06-30-2008, 10:36 PM
There can be only one. And it's Uribe, period. Iguchi's play was fantastic, but context can be everything. Juan's ass sticking out of the stands and Crede yelling takes it. :cool:

Agreed. That anyone would think otherwise, when a World Series win was 88 years in waiting, is inexplicable.
:D:

asindc
06-30-2008, 10:47 PM
Agreed. That anyone would think otherwise, when a World Series win was 88 years in waiting, is inexplicable.
:D:

What he said.

twentywontowin
06-30-2008, 11:38 PM
Uribe by far.

People always talk about that diving catch that Jeter made into the stands as one of the most clutch defensive plays ever... but even Uribe's was better looking, harder, and with more on the line.

I think that 20 years from now when they make a sports list TV show about the top 50 plays of all-time, don't be surprised to see Uribe on there.

FedEx227
06-30-2008, 11:44 PM
Don't forget another great play by Uribe in 05 that is only great because of its significance...during the Joe Crede game, Uribe made a great play to end the inning with a man on 3rd. He ranged to his right, and in one motion, fielded it, turned, and threw a strike to Konerko. Hawk called it the best defensive play of the season based on importance.

I was going to mention that one.

Anybody in attendance will know, that was the quickest, highest ball I've ever seen. It was so hard to describe, but it was THE definition of "bang-bang" there was not a single wasted motion in the entire play.

The Fisk tag was cool, but it doesn't touch either the aforementioned Uribe play or Uribe's game 4 catch.

gobears1987
06-30-2008, 11:48 PM
"Now from the set with a runner at second, the 2-2 pitch. A high pop fly down the left field line. Moving toward the stands in foul territory Uribe is over there. He reaches. Did he catch it! Did he catch it! HE CAUGHT IT! HE CAUGHT IT! It was sent into the stands and he brought it back out! UNBELIEVABLE!" - John Rooney

Obviously Uribe's play comes first, but after that what does everyone consider the best play?


I have to go with Fisk's double tag out at home. It's a play shown on the opening montage. I think it was in 1985. I'll let Lip fill in any details on it.

raul12
07-01-2008, 12:02 AM
"Now from the set with a runner at second, the 2-2 pitch. A high pop fly down the left field line. Moving toward the stands in foul territory Uribe is over there. He reaches. Did he catch it! Did he catch it! HE CAUGHT IT! HE CAUGHT IT! It was sent into the stands and he brought it back out! UNBELIEVABLE!" - John Rooney


That just gave me chills up my back. And then he followed that up with digging that slow chopper over the mound and firing a cannon to Konerko for the last out.

I still remember jumping up and down hugging my friends and crying. Besides the birth of my son and my wedding day, this was the greatest day of my life.

JGarlandrules20
07-01-2008, 12:20 AM
Don't forget another great play by Uribe in 05 that is only great because of its significance...during the Joe Crede game, Uribe made a great play to end the inning with a man on 3rd. He ranged to his right, and in one motion, fielded it, turned, and threw a strike to Konerko. Hawk called it the best defensive play of the season based on importance.

That was amazing, given the need for the out and the speedy Coco Crisp(?) running.

As for best defensive play, I have to go with the majority and agree with Uribe's game 4 catch. He knew he needed that out, and he was willing to sacrifice his body for it. There really wasn't a bigger out than that one.

Not the best defensive play, but can I say that my favorite was Carlos Lee's jumping catch against the green monster in '03 and then him getting stuck to it. :tongue:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/chisoxgirl/History/33sox.jpg

TDog
07-01-2008, 12:22 AM
It's before my time, but I'm sure some Fox and/or Aparicio plays would definately make the top-10 list.

I'm too young to remember seeing Nellie Fox play for the White Sox, but I saw Luis Aparicio in his second time around, when he was about 36 years old. He would routinely go into the hole at short, pivot in the air and throw runners out. Imagine my surprise when they traded Luis Aparicio for Luis Alvarado, and Luis Alvarado didn't even get to balls in the hole.

But Uribe in the ninth in Game 4 would be tough to beat for the significance. I don't separate the play in the stands with the last out. There was one out and a runner on second and Uribe simply took over on defense.

PeteWard
07-01-2008, 01:56 AM
There was a play in 1960s (maybe Lip saw it -- I only saw it on film) where Ken Berry hurdled the centerfield fence in Old Comiskey to make a catch. This was a five-foot chain link fence, but it was still a damned beautiful thing to watch. He raced toward the fence, cleared it in full stride, and caught the ball before coming down.

I've seen a lot of great defensive plays as well as errors Little Leaguers would be ashamed to make. Joe Crede's defense in the 2005 World Series was reminiscent of Brooks Robinson's incredible defense in the 1970 World Series. And the amazing play he made with the bases loaded Saturday probably won the game. Juan Uribe took over the ninth inning of Game 4 in Houston. I watch Alexei Ramirez, and I think ESPN should have a nightly segment on his defense.

Really, it's so hard to choose a greatest-ever Sox defensive play.

I think it was higher than five feet -- more like 8, but no matter.As a kid I remember Berry robbing someone of an HR at that fence about once a month. No exaggeration. Ken Henderson did it a number of times in the early 70s before Veeck tore that fence down.

PeteWard
07-01-2008, 02:00 AM
That just gave me chills up my back. And then he followed that up with digging that slow chopper over the mound and firing a cannon to Konerko for the last out.

I still remember jumping up and down hugging my friends and crying. Besides the birth of my son and my wedding day, this was the greatest day of my life.

He made a helluva play to quell the rally in the 8th inning as well. Maybe the 7th, not sure.

Nellie_Fox
07-01-2008, 02:02 AM
I'm too young to remember seeing Nellie Fox play for the White Sox, but I saw Luis Aparicio in his second time around, when he was about 36 years old. He would routinely go into the hole at short, pivot in the air and throw runners out. Of course, my memory is enhanced by the soft-focus lens of time, but I remember it as being nearly impossible to get a base hit on a grounder anywhere up the middle with Looie and Nellie out there. Looie would get to grounders on the first-base side of second when they were shifted for a leftie, and Nellie would do the opposite. To a little kid, watching them was magical.

PeteWard
07-01-2008, 02:05 AM
Of course, my memory is enhanced by the soft-focus lens of time, but I remember it as being nearly impossible to get a base hit on a grounder anywhere up the middle with Looie and Nellie out there. Looie would get to grounders on the first-base side of second when they were shifted for a leftie, and Nellie would do the opposite. To a little kid, watching them was magical.

My Sox memory only goes back to 64 and that is hazy. I remember Luis in his second stint-- and even then he was amazing. Also Kessinger in the late 70s-- though he was old-- would do that leaping throw while fading away in the hole better than anyone.

daveeym
07-01-2008, 02:06 AM
http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/goochtheplay_1.jpgSignificance schmignificance, going into the stands, flips, dives, slowrollers are all one in the same. That picture shows how amazing that play actually was. I mean it was really just a meaningless slow roller in a midseason game, but seeing it in action was great and that picture is just the icing on the cake.

Lip Man 1
07-01-2008, 02:33 AM
Folks:

Try this one courtesy of Tribune associate sports editor and Sox historian Bob Vanderberg. He was at this game and I have the photo from the newspaper in my library of the catch, it was pretty amazing by Aparicio.

“I’m pretty sure this was in 1960. The Sox were playing the Kansas City A’s at Comiskey Park and I think “Whitey” Herzog was batting. Herzog hit a pop fly down the left field line that seemed certain to drop in because “Minnie” Minoso, the Sox left fielder was shaded towards left center for the left handed hitter. Looie kept racing out and finally reached out with his hand and caught the ball....with his bare hand!”

That's a loooonnnnnggggg way to run down a ball.

Lip

johnr1note
07-01-2008, 08:31 AM
There was a play in 1960s (maybe Lip saw it -- I only saw it on film) where Ken Berry hurdled the centerfield fence in Old Comiskey to make a catch. This was a five-foot chain link fence, but it was still a damned beautiful thing to watch. He raced toward the fence, cleared it in full stride, and caught the ball before coming down.

I've seen a lot of great defensive plays as well as errors Little Leaguers would be ashamed to make. Joe Crede's defense in the 2005 World Series was reminiscent of Brooks Robinson's incredible defense in the 1970 World Series. And the amazing play he made with the bases loaded Saturday probably won the game. Juan Uribe took over the ninth inning of Game 4 in Houston. I watch Alexei Ramirez, and I think ESPN should have a nightly segment on his defense.

Really, it's so hard to choose a greatest-ever Sox defensive play.

I catch a lot of flak, but I still believe Ken Berry is the best defensive outfielder I have ever seen in a White Sox uniform.

TornLabrum
07-01-2008, 08:38 AM
I catch a lot of flak, but I still believe Ken Berry is the best defensive outfielder I have ever seen in a White Sox uniform.

You'll get no flak from me on that, although I have trouble ranking him and Jim Landis. Both were great centerfielders.

BeviBall!
07-01-2008, 08:53 AM
Calderon climbing the fence in, I think, old Tiger Stadium.

ArkanSox
07-01-2008, 09:19 AM
Folks:

Try this one courtesy of Tribune associate sports editor and Sox historian Bob Vanderberg. He was at this game and I have the photo from the newspaper in my library of the catch, it was pretty amazing by Aparicio.

“I’m pretty sure this was in 1960. The Sox were playing the Kansas City A’s at Comiskey Park and I think “Whitey” Herzog was batting. Herzog hit a pop fly down the left field line that seemed certain to drop in because “Minnie” Minoso, the Sox left fielder was shaded towards left center for the left handed hitter. Looie kept racing out and finally reached out with his hand and caught the ball....with his bare hand!”

That's a loooonnnnnggggg way to run down a ball.

Lip

Ha, I was wondering if anyone here would mention this catch. As a kid, I saw it on TV and couldn't believe it. Running full speed with his back to the infield, the only way Aparicio could reach the ball was with his bare hand, so that's how he grabbed it. Hoping to possibly find a video, I searched utube in vain yesterday, but all I found was some old Gillette commercial featuring Little Louie.

wilburaga
07-01-2008, 11:01 AM
For a single play I have to go with my favorite fat-assed shortstop of all time.

But for a dominating defensive performance over the course of a series I have to mention Rowand's dazzling show at Yankee Stadium in August of 2005. He must have made a half dozen sensational catches. And in the last game, when Uribe's triple off Mariano barely eluded an aging Bernie Williams (Juan would score the eventual game winner moments later), 50000 people realized that Rowand would certainly have caught the ball, and that Bernie's days in center were coming to an end.

W

wassagstdu
07-01-2008, 11:12 AM
Ha, I was wondering if anyone here would mention this catch. As a kid, I saw it on TV and couldn't believe it. Running full speed with his back to the infield, the only way Aparicio could reach the ball was with his bare hand, so that's how he grabbed it. Hoping to possibly find a video, I searched utube in vain yesterday, but all I found was some old Gillette commercial featuring Little Louie.

That was my favorite until the Uribe dive into the stands. Aparicio not only caught it barehanded at top speed but he snatched it out of the air palm down.

Here is a link to a newspaper picture that I saved.
Link (http://phahnestock.smugmug.com/gallery/5301607_vHWsy/1/323490753_QjMSg#323490753_QjMSg)

KenBerryGrab
07-01-2008, 11:48 AM
I think it was higher than five feet -- more like 8, but no matter.As a kid I remember Berry robbing someone of an HR at that fence about once a month. No exaggeration. .

His skills have even spawned user names. :cool:

Alexei's DP in Los Angeles is the best I've seen this year.

bigdommer
07-01-2008, 11:59 AM
For a single play I have to go with my favorite fat-assed shortstop of all time.

But for a dominating defensive performance over the course of a series I have to mention Rowand's dazzling show at Yankee Stadium in August of 2005. He must have made a half dozen sensational catches. And in the last game, when Uribe's triple off Mariano barely eluded an aging Bernie Williams (Juan would score the eventual game winner moments later), 50000 people realized that Rowand would certainly have caught the ball, and that Bernie's days in center were coming to an end.

W

Before that series, I had always questioned Rowand as a CF because he tended to tended to take false breaks/steps. After that series I realized that it doesn't matter because he goes hard after everyball with total disregard for his safety and the safety of all people and walls that get in his way.

MVP - Uribe
MOP - Iguchi

Two different questions.

vegyrex
07-01-2008, 12:31 PM
http://www.b12partners.net/mt/images/Juan_Uribe_catch_angle.jpg


I got to go with Juan's catch in the WS.

It p*ssed off David Kaplan of WGN.

He ragged on the Houston fans for not trying harder to interfere with the play.:rolleyes:

asindc
07-01-2008, 12:36 PM
http://www.b12partners.net/mt/images/Juan_Uribe_catch_angle.jpg


I got to go with Juan's catch in the WS.

It p*ssed off David Kaplan of WGN.

He ragged on the Houston fans for not trying harder to interfere with the play.:rolleyes:

As well he should have. The ball belongs to anyone once it crosses the threshold into the stands. I have been saying ever since that game that I couldn't believe Houston fans got out of his way. Better not ever happen at Comiskey.

popilius
07-01-2008, 01:13 PM
http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/photos/uncategorized/goochtheplay_1.jpg

Does anyone own "The Baseball Book?" It was published a few years ago by Sports Illustrated and it features an awesome 2-page spread of this Iguchi play. It interesting because there are a lot of great baseball pictures in the book, but only a few from 2000 and beyond, and this is one of them.

Here's the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Sports-Illustrated-Baseball-Book-Editors/dp/1933405236/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214932139&sr=1-1

:gulp:

JungleJimR
07-01-2008, 01:29 PM
Folks:

Try this one courtesy of Tribune associate sports editor and Sox historian Bob Vanderberg. He was at this game and I have the photo from the newspaper in my library of the catch, it was pretty amazing by Aparicio.

“I’m pretty sure this was in 1960. The Sox were playing the Kansas City A’s at Comiskey Park and I think “Whitey” Herzog was batting. Herzog hit a pop fly down the left field line that seemed certain to drop in because “Minnie” Minoso, the Sox left fielder was shaded towards left center for the left handed hitter. Looie kept racing out and finally reached out with his hand and caught the ball....with his bare hand!”

That's a loooonnnnnggggg way to run down a ball.

Lip

And the game was on a Sunday because WGN was televising it, and all week day games were blacked out. Anyway, not only did Louie catch the ball with his back to the infield running full speed with his bare hand, but he swiped his hand at the ball with a rapid downward motion, like a bear spearing a fly.
My friend and I would give anything to see a replay of this catch. Maybe, after "Web Gems" - who knows?

Lip Man 1
07-01-2008, 01:40 PM
Wassag:

Many thanks for that photo!

Look at how close to the line Looie was making the catch, considering he starting off running for shortstop that's amazing.

Lip

Lip Man 1
07-01-2008, 01:42 PM
Jim:

WGN consistently televised both Sox and Cub home games during the week. In fact by 1962 ALL Sox weekday home games were being shown.

Lip

JungleJimR
07-01-2008, 01:50 PM
Hi Lip,
But I remember when only weekend games were televised. In fact, during the great '59 season it was difficult to see home sox games. Whatever

vegyrex
07-01-2008, 02:42 PM
As well he should have. The ball belongs to anyone once it crosses the threshold into the stands. I have been saying ever since that game that I couldn't believe Houston fans got out of his way. Better not ever happen at Comiskey.

So you were upset Houston fans didn't try harder to interfere with Juan? :scratch:

areilly
07-01-2008, 02:49 PM
I don't know about the absolute best defensive play, because it is difficult to choose just one, but I think my favorite is still Fisk's tagging two players out at home on the same play.

As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, that play just looks so odd in footage, Fisk almost ducking and weaving in front of the plate and the runners slowing as they realize what's happening. It's hard to call that a great defensive play because, more than anything, it's the result of a poor offensive move by the Yankees.

Kittle'sNeighbor
07-01-2008, 02:52 PM
Uribe's mattered the most.

Pudge's double tag was iconic.

Gooch's was incredible

Ivan Calderon's was superhuman

But Bartman and Alex Gonzales' plays are my favorites. :redneck

soxfan13
07-01-2008, 03:14 PM
Any catch by BA!!!:tongue:

asindc
07-01-2008, 03:15 PM
So you were upset Houston fans didn't try harder to interfere with Juan? :scratch:

No, I was estatic, and shocked, that they didn't try harder.

Britt Burns
07-01-2008, 03:45 PM
People always talk about that diving catch that Jeter made into the stands as one of the most clutch defensive plays ever... but even Uribe's was better looking, harder, and with more on the line.

If that had been Jeter and the yank$ instead of Uribe and the Sox, we would have ESPN 5: The Derek Jeter 2005 World Series Catch Channel, every yank from Steinbrenner to Frankie in the maintence crew would have been elected into the Hall-while active, no less-and there would now be a bronze statue in Minute Maid Park exactly where the catch occured (hey, they have a flag pole in the field of play already) along with a seperate annex detailing the history of the play and housing the ball, bat, glove, uniform, used gum, jockstrap, and feminine hygeine product worn by Jeter for the game, along with a looping audio commentary from every b-list personality in existence ruminating about where they were the night of 'The Catch' (TM), with a documentary by Ken Burns in the works.

Notice no teal, on purpose.

kevingrt
07-01-2008, 03:48 PM
Don't forget another great play by Uribe in 05 that is only great because of its significance...during the Joe Crede game, Uribe made a great play to end the inning with a man on 3rd. He ranged to his right, and in one motion, fielded it, turned, and threw a strike to Konerko. Hawk called it the best defensive play of the season based on importance.

That Uribe play in the "Crede Game" was ridiculous. But I still think his play in Game Four was unbelievable. Iguchi's does have the best photo of all though. Good thread though.

ode to veeck
07-01-2008, 04:02 PM
Beyond the plays mentioned, Ozzie Guillen was about the most amazing D at short, he was regularly on the plays of the week at ESPN; too bad he couldn't keep it up with the stick as the years went on

TornLabrum
07-01-2008, 04:06 PM
Hi Lip,
But I remember when only weekend games were televised. In fact, during the great '59 season it was difficult to see home sox games. Whatever

Up to the move to WFLD, WGN televised all Sox home day games. Night games weren't televised. Occasional Cubs and Sox night road games were televised starting around 1959 or '60. I don't remember any road games in '59 except for the clincher. That might have started the night road games practice.

WisSoxFan
07-01-2008, 05:04 PM
Maybe not the best play I've ever seen, but certainly near the top. In a game of little importance sometime in the late 70's or 1980 Greg Pryor made a full out dive for a foul ball near the tarp in Kansas City(?) catching it, then jumping up to throw a runner out at home who had tagged from third. It was a meaningless play in a myriad of meaningless Sox games in that era, but one of the best plays I've ever seen.

Lip Man 1
07-01-2008, 05:11 PM
The second game of the 1990 season after the schedule was readjusted for the lockout, the Sox were in Milwaukee and a Brewer hit a foul pop down the 3rd base line deep and near the seats.

Robin Ventura caught the ball over his shoulder, pivoted and fired a one hop strike to Fisk who blocked the plate and put the tag on a runner trying to score. Just a great, great play.

Lip

ArkanSox
07-01-2008, 05:19 PM
That was my favorite until the Uribe dive into the stands. Aparicio not only caught it barehanded at top speed but he snatched it out of the air palm down.

Here is a link to a newspaper picture that I saved.
Link (http://phahnestock.smugmug.com/gallery/5301607_vHWsy/1/323490753_QjMSg#323490753_QjMSg)

Thanks for the newspaper pics, wassagstdu.

Ahhh, memories...:smile:

I was watching the game when Gooch made his play, and I think that it was also on the brink of impossible. Juan's was great and just plain BIG.

JungleJimR
07-01-2008, 06:01 PM
Up to the move to WFLD, WGN televised all Sox home day games. Night games weren't televised. Occasional Cubs and Sox night road games were televised starting around 1959 or '60. I don't remember any road games in '59 except for the clincher. That might have started the night road games practice.

Yes, that's it. Since most week-day Sox games were night games (there were a few "Ladies Day" day games), I remember the only televised games to be the weekend games which were always day games. And it was a Sunday tv game on WGN that Louie made that incredible catch. My friend says 1958- Can anyone decifer the date in the article?

Sox Supporter
07-01-2008, 08:03 PM
So you were upset Houston fans didn't try harder to interfere with Juan? :scratch:

Speaking of fan interference: does anyone know if the guy that grabbed the ball on Cabrera's hit last night was ejected? Had he not touched that ball, it was a sure triple, and there was a small chance it could have been an inside-the-parker.

ilsox7
07-01-2008, 08:05 PM
Speaking of fan interference: does anyone know if the guy that grabbed the ball on Cabrera's hit last night was ejected? Had he not touched that ball, it was a sure triple, and there was a small chance it could have been an inside-the-parker.

Later in the game another ball ended up down that way and I am pretty sure I saw the guy still there, unfortunately.

shes
07-04-2008, 10:39 AM
Don't forget another great play by Uribe in 05 that is only great because of its significance...during the Joe Crede game, Uribe made a great play to end the inning with a man on 3rd. He ranged to his right, and in one motion, fielded it, turned, and threw a strike to Konerko. Hawk called it the best defensive play of the season based on importance.

I was at this game and there was a collective groan when the ball left the bat, as it was clearly too far in the hole to not be a hit.

I have never seen so many happy, high-fiving Sox fans walking down the ramps as I did that night.

Lip Man 1
07-04-2008, 12:53 PM
That was the game in late September vs. Cleveland if memory serves. It was the game Joe eventually won with a home run.

The Aparicio game was in 1960 according to Bob Vanderberg of the Tribune.

Lip

FireMariotti
07-04-2008, 02:09 PM
No, I was estatic, and shocked, that they didn't try harder.

The fans must have seen a piece in Juan's pocket.

GlassSox
07-05-2008, 02:10 PM
Significance schmignificance, going into the stands, flips, dives, slowrollers are all one in the same. That picture shows how amazing that play actually was. I mean it was really just a meaningless slow roller in a midseason game, but seeing it in action was great and that picture is just the icing on the cake.

AMEN!