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thomas35forever
06-27-2008, 01:23 PM
http://dailyherald.com/story/?id=212846
But...but...but...but I thought Wrigley Field was supposed to be full of tradition!:emo:

MeteorsSox4367
06-27-2008, 01:26 PM
1. Half (or more) of their "fans" don't know/care if they won or lost anyway.

2. The marketing department doesn't want the customers' experiences at Wrigley Field dampened by seeing the "L" flag.

3. The best team in baseball doesn't lose at home. That's why they're so wonderful.

chisoxfanatic
06-27-2008, 01:27 PM
The fourth paragraph from the bottom states that displaying the L flag is negative because it advertises a loss.

Uhhhhhh, doesn't that organization kind of glorify losing anyways ("Lovable Losers" et al.)?

DSpivack
06-27-2008, 01:30 PM
The fourth paragraph from the bottom states that displaying the L flag is negative because it advertises a loss.

Uhhhhhh, doesn't that organization kind of glorify losing anyways ("Lovable Losers" et al.)?

They wave a white flag even when they win. I've always loved that.

SoxGirl4Life
06-27-2008, 01:39 PM
They wave a white flag even when they win. I've always loved that.


You DARE to mock tradition?

TDog
06-27-2008, 01:46 PM
The L flag is a tradition that doesn't go back as far as the last Cubs World Series championship, but it goes back for a couple of generations. If a new breed of Cubs management wants to pretend losses don't exist, it won't be the most ridiculous trend I've seen recently.

I have always believed that the White Sox should use their message sign near the Dan Ryan to tell motorists what is going on or has gone on in the ballpark. When I last drove on the Ryan five years ago, they didn't do that. When I was a kid in the '60s, large puffs of white smoke emerged from Old Comiskey as we passed and my father said someone on the White Sox had just hit a home run. That was pretty cool.

Of course, the problem with putting scores on message boards outside the stadium is that there are games you just hope casual fans don't hear about.

getonbckthr
06-27-2008, 01:56 PM
Maye they should get rid of the basket in the outfield. The purpose its there is to keep drunk fans from falling onto the field. I guess they like that opinion of their fans.

btrain929
06-27-2008, 03:03 PM
I looked on ebay and couldn't find an L flag. I feel like I really need one in my life since I live to piss Cub fans off.

DSpivack
06-27-2008, 04:00 PM
You DARE to mock tradition?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw

LITTLE NELL
06-27-2008, 04:46 PM
Maybe their supply of L flags is in short supply considering their record since the tradition started.

russ99
06-27-2008, 06:11 PM
Aw man, they're ruining our fun. I have fond memories of toasting the "L" flag as it rose after Sox wins at Wrigley. :tongue:

I'd have thought that after this many losses, they'd have a song to sing-along when they lose too. Maybe something sappy, written by a folk singer.

SoxGirl4Life
06-27-2008, 06:15 PM
Aw man, they're ruining our fun. I have fond memories of toasting the "L" flag as it rose after Sox wins at Wrigley. :tongue:

I'd have thought that after this many losses, they'd have a song to sing-along when they lose too. Maybe something sappy, written by a folk singer.


I would fly the L flag for them today. Shut my stupid south-side neighbor Cub fans up.

California Sox
06-27-2008, 06:26 PM
Sam Zell doesn't want to pay for two sets of flags.

soxpride724
06-27-2008, 06:36 PM
[quote=btrain929;1942765]I looked on ebay and couldn't find an L flag. I feel like I really need one in my life since I live to piss Cub fans off.[/quote

http://www.flagpro.com/store/L-Flag-2x3ft.html There you go buddy.

soxpride724
06-27-2008, 06:39 PM
The fourth paragraph from the bottom states that displaying the L flag is negative because it advertises a loss.

Uhhhhhh, doesn't that organization kind of glorify losing anyways ("Lovable Losers" et al.)?


Yeah that's what I was thinking:scratch:

chisoxfanatic
06-27-2008, 06:49 PM
I would fly the L flag for them today. Shut my stupid south-side neighbor Cub fans up.
They were flying a HUGE 3 foot by 5 foot L flag in the LF bleachers during the 9th inning today!

Railsplitter
06-27-2008, 07:48 PM
An "L" flag wouldn't be too diffucult to make. Just get yourself a blue cloth and a white cloth. Cut four strips off the white cloth and glue, sew or otherwise attach them so you have an L on either side.

btrain929
06-27-2008, 08:47 PM
http://www.flagpro.com/store/L-Flag-2x3ft.html There you go buddy.

Thank you, kind sir.

Soxfanspcu11
06-27-2008, 10:18 PM
The L flag is a tradition that doesn't go back as far as the last Cubs World Series championship, but it goes back for a couple of generations. If a new breed of Cubs management wants to pretend losses don't exist, it won't be the most ridiculous trend I've seen recently.

I have always believed that the White Sox should use their message sign near the Dan Ryan to tell motorists what is going on or has gone on in the ballpark. When I last drove on the Ryan five years ago, they didn't do that. When I was a kid in the '60s, large puffs of white smoke emerged from Old Comiskey as we passed and my father said someone on the White Sox had just hit a home run. That was pretty cool.

Of course, the problem with putting scores on message boards outside the stadium is that there are games you just hope casual fans don't hear about.


What do you mean by that last paragraph? Care to elaborate??

I do agree with you about the sign though. I have always thought that that would be a good idea. I can not tell you how many times I have been coming home (I live in Schererville, in Northwest Indiana, about 30 mintues from the park) from the city or the North Suburbs and I drive past the park. I always have looked for some sort of sign that would show Me the outcome of the game. Whether that would be fans walking to the Redline or their cars chearing and chanting or if it would be something that they ran on the board. However, I have NEVER seen ANYTHING on the board that points to either a Win or a Loss.

I know that some people may say, "Just turn on the radio if you want to know that bad." Well, that is easier said than done. I mean, there have been NUMEROUS times where I am driving home very early in the morning (4-7 A.M.) and there is NOTHING on the radio about the Sox game. In that situation, it would help Me out greatly if there could be something up on that board. Perhaps I will write to My Season Ticket Rep about it.

LongLiveFisk
06-27-2008, 10:27 PM
They better not. I love that flag!

Chrisaway
06-27-2008, 10:30 PM
I've always wanted a blue T-shirt with a white "L" on it.

LongLiveFisk
06-27-2008, 10:39 PM
I've always wanted a blue T-shirt with a white "L" on it.

I'm sure you could have one specially made. :D:

RadioheadRocks
06-27-2008, 11:25 PM
An "L" flag wouldn't be too diffucult to make. Just get yourself a blue cloth and a white cloth. Cut four strips off the white cloth and glue, sew or otherwise attach them so you have an L on either side.


I'd take it a step further and give them a Laverne "L" :D:

http://timstvshowcase.com/l&s2.jpg

EuroSox35
06-27-2008, 11:52 PM
I noticed the other day they have advertisements on their seats now,a ahahahahahahaha these were the fans who heckled US Cellular for some outfield ads

Dub25
06-28-2008, 12:01 AM
I'll display the L flag for them... oh wait I already am. The L Flag is flying in front of my house tonight and will be with me tomorrow at the game.

TDog
06-28-2008, 12:13 AM
What do you mean by that last paragraph? Care to elaborate? ...

I was thinking about miserable losses -- those days I stayed to the bitter end on cold afternoon or evenings when the White Sox would have had to tie or break a major league record to score enough runs in the ninth to send the game into extra innings. (The record for ninth-inning runs is 11, set by the 1970 White Sox to win an August game in Fenway Park, and tied by the 2005 Indians. The record for ninth-inning runs after two out and none on to win a game for a home team is nine, set by the 1901 Indians.) I sat through too many bad losses at the old park.

If it were up to me, I would put score updates on the sign, win or lose.

Railsplitter
06-28-2008, 06:45 PM
I noticed the other day they have advertisements on their seats now,a ahahahahahahaha these were the fans who heckled US Cellular for some outfield ads

I found some of the reaction to the signs at Cell amusing when it came from old, old school fans. Every photo or newsreel clip I've seen of Ebbets Field in Brooklyn shows the right field wall full of billboards.

vegyrex
06-28-2008, 06:51 PM
So much for tradition. :?:

TDog
06-28-2008, 07:34 PM
I found some of the reaction to the signs at Cell amusing when it came from old, old school fans. Every photo or newsreel clip I've seen of Ebbets Field in Brooklyn shows the right field wall full of billboards.

Before the Green Monster was painted green, it was covered with ads. Now that's tradition.

StillMissOzzie
06-28-2008, 09:22 PM
I'm sure it's an expenses savings move. They have certainly gone through more "L" flags than "W" flags over the years. Besides, if they go through with this and you see NO flag flying, then you'll know it was a loss anyhow.

SMO
:gulp:

BadBobbyJenks
06-29-2008, 03:16 AM
I looked on ebay and couldn't find an L flag. I feel like I really need one in my life since I live to piss Cub fans off.

I saw somebody at the game today with one. It was blue with white letters.

Soxfanspcu11
06-29-2008, 04:27 AM
I was thinking about miserable losses -- those days I stayed to the bitter end on cold afternoon or evenings when the White Sox would have had to tie or break a major league record to score enough runs in the ninth to send the game into extra innings. (The record for ninth-inning runs is 11, set by the 1970 White Sox to win an August game in Fenway Park, and tied by the 2005 Indians. The record for ninth-inning runs after two out and none on to win a game for a home team is nine, set by the 1901 Indians.) I sat through too many bad losses at the old park.

If it were up to me, I would put score updates on the sign, win or lose.

I understand what you are saying man. I can't tell you how many times I have sat there, freezing My ass off as well. Sometimes, I don't know how I made it through prior to the days of Me being 21 PLUS and the existance of the Bullpen Sports Bar.

It's hard to say where I froze My private parts off the most but 2 games pop into My memory. The first that does is the game played on May 1st, 2005. Yeah, I know that you are saying, "May? How bad could it have been??" Well, let Me tell you, it felt like February out there. It was COOOOOOOOOLD!
The sky was completely cloudy and the wind was pissed at someone. The only thing that made it bearable was the fact that the Sox put a hurtin on detoilet, beating them 8-0 and the fact that My Mastercard was working, thus allowing Me to purchase a beanie and hooded sweatshirt. :bandance:

And the 2nd game? October of 1993, specifically, the 1st Home Game of the 1993 ALCS VS. The Toronto Bluejays. Also known as the game where Jordan threw out the first pitch and then retired the next day. What I remember specifically (other than My nose running NON-STOP) was that wind was blowing DIRECTLY into our face! It was MAD annoying! I mean, it wasn't even swirrling or anything, coming from different angles and giving us brief breaks. Nuh Uh! It was blowing straight into our face for the ENTIRE game! I think that I caught a rare disease previously only seen in Greenland that night.

Anyway, this is the part that I don't understand, the highlighted part. In your original post, you say that you don't want "casual fans" to see the score some nights but then you say that, "if it were up to Me, I would put score updates on the sign, win or lose."

A bit confused by that. Causing My brain to go :scratch:

WSox597
06-29-2008, 07:39 AM
Interesting thread, using the sign would be a good idea.

I have to ask Soxfanspcu11 a question, though. Is this something new, capitalizing 'me' and 'my'?

I'm just curious, I'd hate to be left out of a new trend. :D:

jenn2080
06-29-2008, 09:32 AM
They were flying a HUGE 3 foot by 5 foot L flag in the LF bleachers during the 9th inning today!

That was an 8 x 5 ft flag and that was Skotty and Paco.

chisoxfanatic
06-29-2008, 12:16 PM
That was an 8 x 5 ft flag and that was Skotty and Paco.
Did they make that thing, or where did they get it? We were all laughing in 149.

soxfanreggie
06-29-2008, 04:48 PM
Hopefully Skotty and Paco will have reason to fly it again today!

TDog
06-29-2008, 06:43 PM
I ....

Anyway, this is the part that I don't understand, the highlighted part. In your original post, you say that you don't want "casual fans" to see the score some nights but then you say that, "if it were up to Me, I would put score updates on the sign, win or lose."

A bit confused by that. Causing My brain to go :scratch:

I wrote that I could understand why managment wouldn't want to advertise those bad days at the ballpark to casual fans. Sleet coming down on a gray afternoon on the Dan Ryan and you pass the ballpark and see the Sox lost 12-5 or 16-2.

I would still post the game scores.

If that Magikist sign were still up on the Ryan, I would have used that for Sox scores, too.

jenn2080
06-29-2008, 06:53 PM
Did they make that thing, or where did they get it? We were all laughing in 149.


NO they are not Henry. They did not make it. Paco got it online somewhere. Skotty also has one too that he got somewhere in Mt. Greenwood.

MarkM2112
06-30-2008, 12:55 AM
Check out this website for a good laugh...

www.losethelflag.com (http://www.losethelflag.com) :rolleyes:

pdimas
06-30-2008, 12:31 PM
Did they make that thing, or where did they get it? We were all laughing in 149.


Yeah we got it online. The trib had a little blurb mentioning how we were flying it during the 9th inning on Friday :cool:. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-080627-ozzie-guillen-chicago-cubs-white-sox,0,2561634.story Its down midway through the article under the header "Losing Proposition"

SaltyPretzel
06-30-2008, 12:35 PM
Yeah we got it online. The trib had a little blurb mentioning how we were flying it during the 9th inning on Friday :cool:. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/cs-080627-ozzie-guillen-chicago-cubs-white-sox,0,2561634.story Its down midway through the article under the header "Losing Proposition"

Where online?

skottyj242
06-30-2008, 01:11 PM
NO they are not Henry. They did not make it. Paco got it online somewhere. Skotty also has one too that he got somewhere in Mt. Greenwood.

I got it in Oak Lawn at the cop and fireman store next to Quigleys. The same place that created the Soxside Irish shirts.

FielderJones
06-30-2008, 01:16 PM
Where online?

Upthread pointed to this (http://www.flagpro.com/store/baseball_major_league_flags.html) fine establishment.

pdimas
06-30-2008, 01:32 PM
Upthread pointed to this (http://www.flagpro.com/store/baseball_major_league_flags.html) fine establishment.


Thats where I got mine from! I couldnt remember the site to save my life :gulp:

MeteorsSox4367
06-30-2008, 01:37 PM
There was a small picture on the Daily Herald's website today showing fans at the Cell proudly waving the blue-and-white "L" flag.

Nicely done, boys.

pdimas
06-30-2008, 04:35 PM
Just found this on yahoo sports! You can see my dad, skottyJ, cwsfannick and my little sister (middle bottom). I am short and thus am hidden behind the flag :whiner:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/3c/fullj.499d32949c15b191213edb0043436c0b/499d32949c15b191213edb0043436c0b-getty-80312793cc050_chicago_cubs_.jpg

manders_01
06-30-2008, 06:14 PM
Just found this on yahoo sports! You can see my dad, skottyJ, cwsfannick and my little sister (middle bottom). I am short and thus am hidden behind the flag :whiner:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/3c/fullj.499d32949c15b191213edb0043436c0b/499d32949c15b191213edb0043436c0b-getty-80312793cc050_chicago_cubs_.jpg

But if people look closely, I believe they'll find your torso! :tongue:

skottyj242
07-01-2008, 09:11 AM
That picture is like Where's Waldo.

jenn2080
07-01-2008, 10:40 AM
That picture is like Where's Waldo.


Yeah it is. It took me a few minutes to find you in it.

soxfan13
07-01-2008, 10:54 AM
Yeah it is. It took me a few minutes to find you in it.

his big noggin with the Sox hat is the first thing that popped out for me:tongue:

Railsplitter
07-01-2008, 07:27 PM
Just found this on yahoo sports! You can see my dad, skottyJ, cwsfannick and my little sister (middle bottom). I am short and thus am hidden behind the flag :whiner:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/3c/fullj.499d32949c15b191213edb0043436c0b/499d32949c15b191213edb0043436c0b-getty-80312793cc050_chicago_cubs_.jpg
Your sis. The attractive young lady in the Sox tank top?

bestkosher
07-01-2008, 11:11 PM
The best part about that picture however, is the two cub fans at the bottom of the flag left. Seeing their heads held down and the big L next to them I think is excellent camera work.

MISoxfan
07-02-2008, 12:32 AM
Aw man, they're ruining our fun. I have fond memories of toasting the "L" flag as it rose after Sox wins at Wrigley. :tongue:

I'd have thought that after this many losses, they'd have a song to sing-along when they lose too. Maybe something sappy, written by a folk singer.

Do they still play the blues in Chicago?
When baseball season rolls around?
When the snow melts away, do the Cubbies still play
In their ivy covered burial shroud?

ComiskeyBrewer
07-02-2008, 02:57 AM
Just found this on yahoo sports! You can see my dad, skottyJ, cwsfannick and my little sister (middle bottom). I am short and thus am hidden behind the flag :whiner:

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/3c/fullj.499d32949c15b191213edb0043436c0b/499d32949c15b191213edb0043436c0b-getty-80312793cc050_chicago_cubs_.jpg

That's a great looking flag. I'll be sure to pick one up.